Igboid:


You make every Igbo man proud, Ikechukwu.

Thank you

So do you Igboid

Igboid:
If Gowon and Nigeria were so convinced that Ojukwu was forcefully annexing non Igbos in Biafra, common sense dictates that he would have favoured a plebiscite to disgrace Ojukwu more, before the whole world.

Igboid:
"The unprecedented mingling of all groups and settling of many minority people in the Ibo heartland during the course of the war was simply taken for granted. Nonetheless, the Biafran regime was unreservedly committed to plebiscites in any disputed areas within Biafra, or on borders, so that people involved could determine their allegiance. It was proposed that these plebiscites be conducted under international( UN or O.A.U)supervision, and with adequate safeguard against punitive retaliation The federal government rejected the plebiscite proposal, obviously because it implied the recognition of Biafra and the substitution of a democratic vote for force of arms. Had the plebiscite been held, a ceasefire would have had to be declared, neutral observers would have been on scene, and the secession would have been revealed as a people's movement".

The New York Review of Books, Volume 14, Number 8. April 23,1970.

Igboid:
If Gowon and Nigeria were so convinced that Ojukwu was forcefully annexing non Igbos in Biafra, common sense dictates that he would have favoured a plebiscite to disgrace Ojukwu more, before the whole world.

Wow. Thank you for this. Ironically it corresponded with what my breastfriend grandfather said for his people.

As for the bold, Ironically, it's the same thing they accused Nnamdi Kanu of doing despite the fact he asked for a referendum. If they are so sure minorities are for Nigeria why would you be afraid of a paper where they them themselves would say so. Only in a nation filled with illiterates would think a person asking for people to choose where they want to go as "forcefully taking".

I shudder whenever I remember we're cursed to share a nation with this bunch of dullards and imbeciles

nonaira:




Wow. Thank you for this. Ironically it corresponded with what my breastfriend grandfather said for his people.

As for the bold, Ironically, it's the same thing they accused Nnamdi Kanu of doing despite the fact he asked for a referendum. If they are so sure minorities are for Nigeria why would you be afraid of a paper where they them themselves would say so. Only in a nation filled with illiterates would think a person asking for people to choose where they want to go as "forcefully taking".

I shudder whenever I remember we're cursed to share a nation with this bunch of dullards and imbeciles

When you are ready for a referendum, the rest of the world will know but for now, you ain't ready for it.

nonaira:




Wow. Thank you for this. Ironically it corresponded with what my breastfriend grandfather said for his people.

As for the bold, Ironically, it's the same thing they accused Nnamdi Kanu of doing despite the fact he asked for a referendum. If they are so sure minorities are for Nigeria why would you be afraid of a paper where they them themselves would say so. Only in a nation filled with illiterates would think a person asking for people to choose where they want to go as "forcefully taking".

I shudder whenever I remember we're cursed to share a nation with this bunch of dullards and imbeciles

Exactly. It's the same demonic wicked mentality that had kept the country a failed under developed hell hole , now lagging behind the likes of Kenya, Botswana, Ethiopia, etc in human development indices, let's not talk about RSA, those ones are out of sight.

In years to come, they (Igbophobic) Nigerians would also tell their children, stories of how Nnamdi Kanu failed because he tried to force Niger deltans and Ndiigbo into Biafra. They wouldn't make mention of Kanu demand for referendum, just like their parents don't make mention of Ojukwu demand for a plebiscite, these people are naturally crooked, and I had determined that no way in hell is Nigeria ever going to crawl out of its failed third world status, with these people still part of it.

We need to severe ties with these people ASAP.

Clinton9000:
A Nairalander few months ago perfectly described the relationship between Igbos and Nigeria. He said Igbos is that smart, blessed kid in secondary school that everybody wants to be associated with, copy from and be in a group or team with. The smart kid Igbo doesn't want to copy from anyone because he is confident in his abilities. If he wants to change class because he doesn't like how he is being treated or the condition of the class, the rest of the class will gang up to stop him. Ok, the Igbo kid says...take my books, take my answers, just let me go with nothing, they said no...lol.What is even interesting in that class is if anything not about Igbo is being discussed, nobody is interested. But as as that thing involves Igbo, everybody will pay serious attention and join. You notice how Igbo threads drive Nairaland? 2/3 of high traffic threads on Nairaland have something to do with Igbos or Biafra. It's just the fact!

If you want to test my hypothesis, open two threads, same topic, one about Yoruba and the other about Igbo. I promise you, within 10 mins, the Igbo thread will be 3 pages while Yoruba will still be on page zero. Even Yorubas will not touch their own thread, but will instead rush enter Igbo thread like a rat being baited....most of them are not doing this consciously, it's like a spirit pushing them in the direction of the chosen children of God called Ndigbo or Ndi-gbo meaning "Ancient people."

-Hehehe. This is truism understatement.

Firgemachar:


So whose fault is that?

You guys should blame Zik for your current slavish condition.

And Ironsi too for scuttling the regional arrangement to favour the Igbos at the time.

Don't mind them, they though they can fool everyone with their victim mentality, dem no KNOW say day don break.
Can you imagine those who were in the corridor of power since Independence until three years ago, claiming Nigerians hate them because they are no longer in the corridor of power?.
This is why I keep on looking at my brothers who were swallowing their cock and bull stories, o better ke je ki ori yin pe o.
What is good for the goose is equally good for the gander, enough with the GOODY GOODY natue in Yoruba Land, eni ti o ba mo iyi, lo ye ka taa fun, stop FOOLING AROUND with ingrates.
We cannot continue to play opposition in this country, enough with the RUBBISH, SW interest ONLY.
Everyone should carry their loads, we are not the only tribe good enough for opposition, YORUBA RONU.

Igboid:


Exactly. It's the same demonic wicked mentality that had kept the country a failed under developed hell hole , now lagging behind the likes of Kenya, Botswana, Ethiopia, etc in human development indices, let's not talk about RSA, those ones are out of sight.

In years to come, they (Igbophobic) Nigerians would also tell their children, stories of how Nnamdi Kanu failed because he tried to force Niger deltans and Ndiigbo into Biafra. They wouldn't make mention of Kanu demand for referendum, just like their parents don't make mention of Ojukwu demand for a plebiscite, these people are naturally crooked, and I had determined that no way in hell is Nigeria ever going to crawl out of its failed third world status, with these people still part of it.

We need to severe ties with these people ASAP.

That's the part that frustrates me the most. They will still brainwash their children just like their own parents did to them with Lies about Nigerian history and igbos.

Those brainwashed kids will grow up to accuse my kids of lies and propaganda fed to them.

Their parents or Nigerian government will never tell them that both ojukwu and Nnamdi Kanu asked for referendum so that minorities can freely choose their destiny.

Any Igbo person who talks anything less than disintegration of the shithole called Nigeria should be shot.

nonaira:


Get the hell away from the rest of una. As far away as we can get. If it's up to me, I'll personally blow up this shithole.



Yeah in Nigeria. A shithole that intentionally tries to destroy any effort Igbo and SS leaders make to benefit their region. Remind us again, who voted against the SEDC proposal that impacted or took money from anyone but SE only. Remind me the reason for the denial
Remind us again who have destroyed every attempt to improve and modify both the rivers port and Calabar ports and equally the newly built onitsha port.



Go and tell that to the ministers who set up the principal of SEDC

Did the same Igbo political leaders not overwhelmingly reject the special status bill for Lagos state? Yes or No?

You cry when you are served a taste of your own medicine, but when you do it to others, your shallow brains seem to easily forget.
In Nigeria, every region has always seem to be anti-other regions. So, remove the mote in your eyes before you try to point out that of others.

That's the only thing I agree with you. Good thing they finally learned that lesson, from what I heard they all returning their money back home. I honestly believe all the Igbos properties in Nigeria would burn. You lots should rot in hell

Agree or not, that is your headache.

And what have the rest of you lots brought out? A nation with militants that blow up pipes. A leader that's hailed religious leader who killed millions in few years. Middle belt leaders that lick the asshole of any northern leaders they can think of all in the determinal of their own people. Remind us again what your governor did when Buhari came to benue despite his early pretence of standing alongside his people over the Fulanis herdsmen slaughter.

Some middlebelt leaders asslick Hausa fulanis, true, at least that can be somehow explainable as middlebelters and Hausa fulanis have been neighbors for centuries and have shared some history together in common. But can you explain how come the likes of Igbos like Okorocha? And tell me, who is a worse Hausa asslicker between the Benue governor and Okorocha. What about the likes of Amaechi, Uzor Kalu et al?
Lest you know one thing, just as Igbos rebuke and call out Hausa asslickers in their midst, middlebelters also do too. Watch out and see if APC will not be sacked out in Kogi, Plateau & Benue in the next election.

Nnamdi Kanu to me was too peaceful for that shithole if you ask me. He should have been as sadistic, delivish and killer towards you pigs. I honestly think he wasted his years being too nice to you animals. I wish he actually did everything you rats accuse him of including that death you said he wanted to do. At least your hate to him would be justified

With your irrational tone of hatred, it's no surprise that people like you are nothing but keyboard warriors, who have absolutely nothing reasonable to offer but to push others into the battle front with your tone and then hide behind your keyboards.
Was it not men like you that were there to defend Nnamdi Kanu and died for him? Since you so much have the tongue to fuel Kanu's rage, don't you think it would have been better if you were with him physically to back your words with actions?

True. Who respect the Igbo founding father? Which Igbo rank Zik in a high rank. To Igbos, Zik is the worst Igbo person ever to be created hence every momentum dedicated to him in Igboland have been destroyed by the youths. Neither his family or his children are respected by any Igbo.

Stories that touch. Should I show you a thread on nairaland where Igbos were praising Zik for establishing the first Nigerian university in Nsukka? And them bragging about it?
It's ironic that you guys will brag about his achievements today and claim to disrespect him tomorrow.

However, that does not still change the fact that people like Zik who rejected the secession clause in our constitution are part of the problems we have today. Not also forgetting the likes of Aguiyi Ironsi who introduced this Current unitary system of govt that destroyed our progress as a people.
I am waiting for you to talk about how Ironsi and his children are disrespected in Igbo land.

Oh please. The middle belters that you are have been keeping this shithole in ransome as well. Were your leaders not screeching Arewa until recently after they started murdering you in your hundreds. I love how you like like claiming it's "Hausa/Fulanis" are the only one holding Nigeria ransome.

Yes, some middlebelt leaders supported one arewa right from time, this is because that was the identity that was forced on our people by the British. Just the same way many Eastern minorities supported one eastern region with the Igbos and many western minorities supported one western region with the yorubas, but today no more.

But don't forget that many other middlebelters have never supported one arewa as well. Don't forget that since the 1950's we had our own political party called the United middlebelt congress (UMBC), which was the largest opposition party in the northern region and won elections in most parts of the middlebelt. And we later joined forces with Awolowo's party to be on the opposition side WHILE you Igbos enjoyed your sizzling political romance with Hausa-fulanis.

Irrational Children and naive teenagers like you think Nigeria started with the 2015 elections and Nnamdi Kanu.

Apart from Igbo and Ijaw, who ever challenged the North on their greediness. Oh and don't give me shit about yoruba. After all, the second they gained power with APC, they immediately went against their restructure standards. They didn't come back to it until Buhari started sidelining them.

Again, Apart from Igbo and Ijaw which of una have ever made any effort to display their dislike for the status quo?

Times over again, Igbos have been proven to only cry the loudest when federal politics do not favour their domination tactics, but as soon as they have influence in the center, they suddenly shut up and start supporting one Nigeria, just as we see during GEJ's era and during the previous republics when Igbos and Hausas were in alliance and yorubas were in opposition.

Ijaws only agitated for their fundamental rights and not challenging the outright oligarchy of the north on behalf of the entire Nigeria.

Teenagers like you will not know the likes of Gideon Orkar who was a middlebelter but never had only the middlebelt at heart. He wanted a country without Hausa-fulanis and Kanuris and made a national call to all middlebelters and southerners to unite and take over. If only he had succeeded in that coup, by now I bet you Igbos would have been enjoying and dominating the new Nigeria without Hausa-fulanis.

What about the Dimka attempted coup? Was it not an attempt of the middlebelt against the core-north's power greediness?

The middlebelt's power and unity sense was completely weakened by the later proliferation of states. If not I dare you to show me how much the middlebelt has alligned with the core-north politically since 1950 till now.. Except during the civil war (which the majority of the south-south people whom you beg for unity today also fought against you too).

And yet I don't see any tangible thing you lots are doing to show that. Other than loud mouthing on social media, what have you lots done? If I recall correctly when Tuface scheduled a walk, wasn't it the so called masses that belittled him.

Name one tangible thing the so called "restructuring seeking masses" are doing? I'll wait.

The fact that other Nigerians are not chanting Nnamdi Kanu or death does not mean we are not working towards restructuring. Series of meetings have been held recently by southern & middlebelt leaders. And we hope for more of those. I also foresee better movements in regards to this coming up, cos the eyes of the masses are being opened gradually and people like myself will surely be part of these movements in the shortest future.
Not until this current age of social media technology, majority of the masses have been living in ignorance.

And who are those ones protecting the leaders?

When okorocha was attacked in Btitain by IPOB, which group attacked Igbos for supporting the ipob member.
When an IPOB members invaded ohaneze event and again attacked them, remind us again the race that screeched like neatherthals.

How many times have Massob, IPOB and all Biafra group insulted, belittled and attacked Igbo leaders, remind us again who oppose the attacks and belittling.


Because they are sellouts hence IPOB, MASSOB are more respected by Igbos than they are. All igbo leaders are very much in aware that their saving Grace is one Nigeria. Once that shithole divides, they know they'll be victims of harsh revenge. Remember that ipob mentioned that they keeping a journal of all Igbo leaders that are sabos and their Justice will come in Biafra. They are very much aware that Nigeria is their saving Grace hence they'll continue fighting against the masses to keep this shithole going.



And so are you along with all the bastard's in that shithole.

A mad man will surely know symptoms of madness

Don't call me again in uour screeching of stupidity.

IPOB received much hate from other Nigerians in return because they started out their campaign on the basis of hatred and insults for other Nigerians, simple and full stop.
As for Massob, I cannot remember seeing other Nigerian masses strongly against them except for the govt.

It's funny how you guys keep on blaming one Nigeria for the nature of your politicians, as if you people are not the ones electing them.
Was it Idomas, Hausas or yorubas that re-elected Obiano? Stupid irrational mindset of naive youths who have nothing to offer other than victim mentality.

Bede2u:
Nowenuse

Thank u nonaira for this. I was just too tired of replying the fool. The Igbos tru several means have tried to challenge the statusquo and have met with stiff resistance from Nigerians and the elite yet this ones is asking silly questions. Ask him wat his tribe has done to change Nigeria for the better.

Daewang:


Instead of you to go and look for solution to the problem of your people who are being slaughtered left, right and center by fulani herdsmen you are here hating Igbos and carrying our matter for your head. Continue while we keep progressing and leave you in the dust. By God's grace one day we will not share the same country.

Did you see me open a thread about Igbos for you to say I am carrying Igbo matters on my head?

You people opened this thread and started dragging other Nigerians to the mud with it.

As if the same fulanis are not killing people in the SE too. What have you lots done about it? Praying and fasting about it like your governor?

Meanwhile there have also been dozens of reprisal killings against Hausa fulanis by our people. How many have been carried out in the SE?

Nowenuse:


Did you see me open a thread about Igbos for you to say I am carrying Igbo matters on my head?

You people opened this thread and started dragging other Nigerians to the mud with it.

As if the same fulanis are not killing people in the SE too. What have you lots done about it? Praying and fasting about it like your governor?

Meanwhile there have also been dozens of reprisal killings against Hausa fulanis by our people. How many have been carried out in the SE?

Fool did any Igbo address you directly? Will you die if you mind your business for once. Did any Igbo mention you or your tribe or region? As for fulani killings, tell me when last fulani herdsmen killed anyone in the east. On the other hand fulani herdsmen have been using your people for suya and nothing happened. That's how worthless your lives are over there. Everyday is mass burial in your land. I can't remember any mass burial in the east. If you like don't go and face your mass burial region continue carrying Igbo matter for head. Just inform us of the next mass burial so that we can come and eat rice. Anuofia dika gi.

Nowenuse:
Did you see me open a thread about Igbos for you to say I am carrying Igbo matters on my head?

You people opened this thread and started dragging other Nigerians to the mud with it.

As if the same fulanis are not killing people in the SE too. What have you lots done about it? Praying and fasting about it like your governor?

Meanwhile there have also been dozens of reprisal killings against Hausa fulanis by our people. How many have been carried out in the SE?

Thanks for educating the clueless, bro.'

Igboid:


On the contrary, Ojukwu offered Gowon and Nigeria, the option of a UN supervised plebiscite on all non Igbo speaking parts of Biafra to prove if Biafra was forcefully annexing the Eastern minorities.

Gowon following a research and advice from his British masters, who reliably informed him that such a plebiscite would lead to 2/3 of the minorities voting for Biafra while rejecting Nigeria, declined the offer.

So, No. At no point did Ojukwu forcefully annexed the minorities areas.

Easy to say this, when Adaka Boro previously declared the Niger delta republic for his people and was clamped down by the same Igbos.

Why did Igbos not support Adaka Boro's Niger-delta republic?

As much as I was never in support of Gowon as a person. His moves and that of Britain were nothing but to outsmart Ojukwu's attempt to grab the minority regions.
Igbos already had a large population and strong presence and influence in these minority areas at that time, one wonders how a fair referendum would have been possible. Would they distinguish people who will vote based on their tribes or residency?

Fast forward today, how much of these eastern minorities favour any sort of nation union with the Igbos? It's obvious that the majority do not.

Daewang:




Fool did any Igbo address you directly? Will you die if you mind your business for once. Did any Igbo mention you or your tribe or region? As for fulani killings, tell me when last fulani herdsmen killed anyone in the east. On the other hand fulani herdsmen have been using your people for suya and nothing happened. That's how worthless your lives are over there. Everyday is mass burial in your land. I can't remember any mass burial in the east. If you like don't go and face your mass burial region continue carrying Igbo matter for head. Just inform us of the next mass burial so that we can come and eat rice. Anuofia dika gi.

Where were you when fulanis massacred dozens in Ebonyi last month in different attacks? Or should we start posting links?

I can also show you links of mass burial of fulani herdsmen from retaliatory attacks in the middlebelt. Can you show me any in the east?

Igbos opened this thread to ridicule other Nigerians or are you so blind to see the title of the thread? Am I not part of the other Nigerians being mentioned here?

Besides, you people have 'Igbo only' groups on facebook and one useless Biafran social media you created to mimick Nairaland. Why not you guys take these kind of discussions there and masturbate on each other and stop disturbing the peace of other Nigerians on this platform??

laudate:


Thanks for educating the clueless, bro.'

You're welcome.

Nowenuse:


Easy to say this, when Adaka Boro previously declared the Niger delta republic for his people and was clamped down by the same Igbos.

Why did Igbos not support Adaka Boro's Niger-delta republic?

As much as I was never in support of Gowon as a person. His moves and that of Britain were nothing but to outsmart Ojukwu's attempt to grab the minority regions.
Igbos already had a large population and strong presence and influence in these minority areas at that time, one wonders how a fair referendum would have been possible. Would they distinguish people who will vote based on their tribes or residency?

Fast forward today, how much of these eastern minorities favour any sort of nation union with the Igbos? It's obvious that the majority do not.

You are already digressing.
The issue is not If Ironsi and Ojukwu denied Boro his Niger delta republic, the issue is not about how many of such Eastern minorities would choose Nigeria over Biafra Today , if those are the only two choices presented to them, the issue is if Ojukwu was forcefully annexing non Igbo parts of Eastern region in 1966-70.


And the Answer is No.

Why No? Because Ojukwu like Kanu Nnamdi was demanding for a UN supervised plebiscite in the non Igbo parts of Biafra, that's not the action of one who is forcing an unwilling people into a union. there are many minoroties in Biafran government, and some in Nigerian government, the best way of Knowing which the people prefered was via a plebiscite.

Why did Gowon decline Ojukwu plebiscite proposal ?

We know why, see it : "In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on the background, cause and consequences of the Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by more than sixty British subjects, including Sir Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of the 37 percent of the population which they estimated that minority group represented in Biafra, only 10% would favour continued association with the federal government".
The New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8. April 23, 1970

Nowenuse:


Where were you when fulanis massacred dozens in Ebonyi last month in different attacks? Or should we start posting links?

I can also show you links of mass burial of fulani herdsmen from retaliatory attacks in the middlebelt. Can you show me any in the east?

Igbos opened this thread to ridicule other Nigerians or are you so blind to see the title of the thread? Am I not part of the other Nigerians being mentioned here?

Besides, you people have 'Igbo only' groups on facebook and one useless Biafran social media you created to mimick Nairaland. Why not you guys take these kind of discussions there and masturbate on each other and stop disturbing the peace of other Nigerians on this platform??

Mkpi show me where fulani herdsmen killed dozens in Ebonyi. The same region where fulanis used another 24 worthless souls for suya today? Please don't make me laugh. Once again no one addressed you or your tribe so learn to mind your business ewu.

Saturday, 09 June 2012 TRIBUNE NEWSPAPERS - KUNLE ODEREMI



"From that point, the battle by the amorphous forces to scuttle the democracy process began to witness new twists and turns to the amazement of local and international communities. Some of those anti-democratic elements that had hitherto hid their faces began to come into the open, deploying weird antics and tactics to discredit the poll and denigrate the character of Abiola. From nowhere came Abimbola Davies to complement the hatchet job of the notorious Association for Better Nigeria (ABN) led by eccentric Chief Arthur Nzeribe.
To save the day and avoid the move to abort the making of June 12, those behind the new vision of a better Nigeria under a democracy moved briskly to form a coalition. Several human rights and pro-democracy bodies picked up the gauntlet of defending the sovereign powers of the people to elect those to govern them. The build-up culminated in the birth of the National Democratic Coalition (NADECO) from the mainsteam pan-Yoruba organisation, Afenifere; Movement for National Reformation (MNR) led by Pa Anthony Enahoro; Eastern Mandate Union (EMU) and many others.

From that moment, the face of the struggle changed. While the military bared its fangs like a rabid dog, the civil society and other forces dared the lion, even right in its den. The leaders of the coalition and other groups became victims of vicious attacks, including assassination and killings. Scores of hapless youths protesting against the “criminal” annulment were maimed or killed and even declared missing by pro-democracy and human rights groups. Many others were hounded into jail among hardened criminals. There are several other statesmen like late Pa adekunle Ajasin, Chief Bola Ige, General Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, Olisa Agbakoba, late Chief Gani Fawehinmi, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, Dr. Chukwuemeka Ezeife, late Pa Onasanya Solanke, Chuma Ubani, Ms Ayo Obe, and lots of other activists, as well as scores of other protesters that suffered indignities and humiliation in the hands of agents of government. In the words of the governor of Lagos State, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, “June 12, 1993 election has become historic and memorable, not because it produced the expected results, but because its sabotage produced a reaction that the saboteurs did not contemplate. It produced a platform for the expression of the need for change, a better life, true democracy and responsible governance by millions of Nigerians. The election ignited in Nigeria, the biggest human force known in our history – the consensus of millions for one common purpose.” But when will their garlands come? "

Ajasin, Chief Bola Ige, General Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, Olisa Agbakoba, late Chief Gani Fawehinmi, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, Dr. Chukwuemeka Ezeife, late Pa Onasanya Solanke, Chuma Ubani, Ms Ayo Obe,


See Igbos that fought for June 12 under NADECO, but today, when Yolobas speak of June 12, no mention of them are made.
This is how Yolobas twist history.

"From nowhere came Abimbola Davies to complement the hatchet job of the notorious Association for Better Nigeria (ABN) led by eccentric Chief Arthur Nzeribe".

See, when yoloboids speak of those who were in support of IBB and Abacha, they remember all the Igbos, and conveniently forget their own son, Abimbola Davies.

Nowenuse:
You're welcome.

You are trying to educate people who have refused to free their minds, and accept the truth. It is a thankless effort. Someone mentioned a plebiscite. The offer of a plebiscite was made in August 5 1968, in Addis Ababa during the peace talks convened to try and end the war, after Gowon had earlier created the 12 states in May 1967. The plebiscite was a counter-offer - one of the fuzzy, tricky conditions Eni-Njoku the Biafran representative, had laid before the participants at the peace conference, in response to the federal government's offer to solve the problems between Nigeria and Biafra. How come the plebiscite was not offered before May 1967?

The plebiscite needed not be offered before then, because Ojukwu never had to prove he had the support of the majority of the Eastern minorities.
What plebiscite did Gowon and his evil advisers conduct before creating the abominations(states) that ruined Nigerian functional political structure(the regions) ?


The plebiscite proposal was only made by Biafra as an antidote to Gowon and Nigeria demonic propaganda and agenda, when they went to broadcast repeatedly to the entire world that Ojukwu forcefully annexed the Eastern minorities.

There was no better way to shame and disgrace Gowon, than by conducting a plebiscite.
A UN or OAU plebiscite would have exposed Gowon and his Yoloba propaganda machine as a demonic bunch.

Alariiwo:


Igbos are doing better than "noone" my friend..

Even without war or insurgency, the SE still ranks low in terms of development and sustainability.
The unemployment rate ranks highest in the SE
The security is nothing to write home about.
Talking about infrastructures, it's zero


Wake up boy! There is nothing special about South East or her inhabitants

You're hateful.

Iti

Sapiosexuality:
Not just anti-igbo, Nigerians are generally anti-other tribes. Nigerians hate each other so much that any man with a functional soul will wonder why they are still one country. The hate we have for other tribes is stronger than the love we have for Nigeria.

It is not just the Igbo, though I must admit the nature has the potential for breeding enemies. See the hate between the Igbo and Yorubas. Two tribes with majority acting like fools to each other, two tribes who have never done physical battle.

The truth is, Nigeria was not meant to be. I must give credit to the genius who created such unworkable system. He is a mental giant. We are too foolish to end the hate and our country was built with that hatred at the core.

The only thing keeping Nigerians together is the only thing that shouldn't keep any true relationship. It is business and the material and food for our mortal bodies. Peace, Love, sound health of mind and body is not in the menu. We are in hell.

I didn't want to comment on this thread before, but your honest comment pushed me to reply you. But as usual, those igbo guys won't agree with you. They only shout they hate them. I have asked them several times on this forum that do they love other tribes, but none of them has given an answer. If you ask them again, they will not answer you, they will rather continue their victim cry. The reason these guys hate Yoruba is because yorubas never allowed them to have their ways. They want to rule over other tribes but they are not allowed to. Once you don't allow them to rule you, you become their enemy. That is the fact.

Nowenuse:


Did the same Igbo political leaders not overwhelmingly reject the special status bill for Lagos state? Yes or No?

You see your ignorance. The lagos bill was for every region to contribute money for lagos. SEDC is for money coming directly from all SE region ALONE!! Know the difference before stupidly comparing apples and orange.

And when have Yoruba ever supported Igbos for any developmental aspect for the region to even remotely think of supporting them in an outright thivery for the "special status bill for Lagos." Name a reason they should have supported Lagos for all regions to pay them?

You cry when you are served a taste of your own medicine, but when you do it to others, your shallow brains seem to easily forget.
In Nigeria, every region has always seem to be anti-other regions. So, remove the mote in your eyes before you try to point out that of others.

No, we decided to give you Niggerians that hate your ancestors have given us since lord luggard and his LovePeddler of a wife dragged us in this hellish hole together.

Agree or not, that is your headache.

Let me say it again, you Niggerians should rot in hell.

Some middlebelt leaders asslick Hausa fulanis, true, at least that can be somehow explainable as middlebelters and Hausa fulanis have been neighbors for centuries and have shared some history together in common. But can you explain how come the likes of Igbos like Okorocha? And tell me, who is a worse Hausa asslicker between the Benue governor and Okorocha. What about the likes of Amaechi, Uzor Kalu et al?
Lest you know one thing, just as Igbos rebuke and call out Hausa asslickers in their midst, middlebelters also do too. Watch out and see if APC will not be sacked out in Kogi, Plateau & Benue in the next election.

Oh what a nice excuse. You asslick the north because you share neighbors with North. Last I checked, you middle belters share borders with SW and SE as well and last I checked, the only region you lots have asslicked repeatedly was North. You asslick because your community were benefitting the status quo of this useless nation until the north started showing you they still deemed as beneath them as far as they concerned. Afterall, many of the past leadership in which we call North leadership have been you middle belters as well. Despite, your repeated attempt to say the Fulani/Hausa are the only set that have benefitted the status quo. In addition, okorocha and Co ass licking to North has an excuse was due to their unholy birth and raising area. In addition, Okorocha was said to the birth child of a northern. What's worse, an illegitimate child trying to gain father's love or a man seeking power despite continuous to his people by the lots he ass lick.

With your irrational tone of hatred, it's no surprise that people like you are nothing but keyboard warriors, who have absolutely nothing reasonable to offer but to push others into the battle front with your tone and then hide behind your keyboards.
Was it not men like you that were there to defend Nnamdi Kanu and died for him? Since you so much have the tongue to fuel Kanu's rage, don't you think it would have been better if you were with him physically to back your words with actions?

And what told your savage ass that my contribution to IPOB have been online only? My best friend and I opened a Biafra group in America and that group have repeatedly worked with the US chapter of IPOB which have repeatedly went to Biafra and protested alongside the Biafra chapter stuck in that shithole you fool. My cousin is one of the leaders of Asaba chapter of IPOB, which again have worked tirelessly to increase awareness of Biafra sepeartion from your shitheads in Anioma. The only reason IPOB have not turned violent is because they are ignoring my and several ipob members statement to defend ourselves.

Stories that touch. Should I show you a thread on nairaland where Igbos were praising Zik for establishing the first Nigerian university in Nsukka? And them bragging about it?
It's ironic that you guys will brag about his achievements today and claim to disrespect him tomorrow.

Oh you mean the same thread I was present in. Tell your Bullshit to the person that listens to your ignorance. Last I checked, that thread they spoke of Zik establishing the first university to combat the generational lies of Yoruba. In fact that thread was more taunting Yoruba on their usual propaganda. Nowhere did they rejoice or praise Zik rather praised Igbo. Discussing of a historical fact is not praising incase you don't know. I guess to you me talking about when Nigerian gained her independence compared to South Africa would be I praising this shithole.

However, that does not still change the fact that people like Zik who rejected the secession clause in our constitution are part of the problems we have today. Not also forgetting the likes of Aguiyi Ironsi who introduced this Current unitary system of govt that destroyed our progress as a people.
I am waiting for you to talk about how Ironsi and his children are disrespected in Igbo land.

I love how you fools love accusing Ironsi of destroying your shithole progress. How long was Ironsi president? Last I checked, he lasted LESS than a year before he was assassinated. He removed your unitary system thus "stopping your progress" then explain to me, what stop you lots from changing it back to regain your progress after he was eliminated? Yep he destroyed your progress in LESS THAN A FUCKING YEAR.. What a nice way to excuse your incompetence, stupidity and backwardness on a president that wasn't even a president.

Yes, some middlebelt leaders supported one arewa right from time, this is because that was the identity that was forced on our people by the British. Just the same way many Eastern minorities supported one eastern region with the Igbos and many western minorities supported one western region with the yorubas, but today no more.

What a nice way to blame whites for your asslicking. Yep it's whites fault that middle belters licked awera ass to maintain status quo until recently. Let's blame Europeans as usual....typical negro mentality.
Oh and btw: you are speaking to a westerner before you go on your rampage on "western minorities supported one western region." Most western minorities, my people included, were against western region hence most voted to be removed from western region. The fight for that removal started when whites were present.

But don't forget that many other middlebelters have never supported one arewa as well. Don't forget that since the 1950's we had our own political party called the United middlebelt congress (UMBC), which was the largest opposition party in the northern region and won elections in most parts of the middlebelt. And we later joined forces with Awolowo's party to be on the opposition side WHILE you Igbos enjoyed your sizzling political romance with Hausa-fulanis.

Oh story that touches. Gowon and Babaginda must be chinese. I love how you middle belters love to play innocent as if you think we aren't aware that middle belter played a hand in the looting of this shithole to being the miserable hellhole it is.

Irrational Children and naive teenagers like you think Nigeria started with the 2015 elections and Nnamdi Kanu.

Still does not remove that the most backwards times of Nigeria political was when both you middle belters and the northern muslims ruled? Yay or nay?

Times over again, Igbos have been proven to only cry the loudest when federal politics do not favour their domination tactics, but as soon as they have influence in the center, they suddenly shut up and start supporting one Nigeria, just as we see during GEJ's era and during the previous republics when Igbos and Hausas were in alliance and yorubas were in opposition.

As usual, you illiterates screech whatever illogical nonsense that comes into una brain. So Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB which began during GEJ rule and gained a high followers during GEJ RULE till the point their radio show became one of fastest growing radio show during GEJ rule and where Igbo leaders began getting insulted by the mass during GEJ rule did not occur bah. The same group also sent a letter to GEJ to divide the nation and also contributed to the high boycott in election by SE and some SS during the 2015 where not present. Or maybe to you, since Igbo was "benefitting from GEJ rule", the actions during that time by IPOB which had HIGH FOLLOWERS by IGBO during that time was unnecessary. Or maybe their actions became prevalent to you only when you learned about it. As usual, the niggerians logic Never seizes to amaze me.

Ijaws only agitated for their fundamental rights and not challenging the outright oligarchy of the north on behalf of the entire Nigeria.

I suggest research which ethnic group started the fight for niger delta republic. How long it's been going on and who is still fighting for it till this very day.

Teenagers like you will not know the likes of Gideon Orkar who was a middlebelter but never had only the middlebelt at heart. He wanted a country without Hausa-fulanis and Kanuris and made a national call to all middlebelters and southerners to unite and take over. If only he had succeeded in that coup, by now I bet you Igbos would have been enjoying and dominating the new Nigeria without Hausa-fulanis.

What about the Dimka attempted coup? Was it not an attempt of the middlebelt against the core-north's power greediness?

The middlebelt's power and unity sense was completely weakened by the later proliferation of states. If not I dare you to show me how much the middlebelt has alligned with the core-north politically since 1950 till now.. Except during the civil war (which the majority of the south-south people whom you beg for unity today also fought against you too).

Yet ironically enough, the middle belters were the core fighters and the main leader when a man actually DIVIDED the nation. If you truly was in support of empanication out of "the so called "Northern leadership.", shouldn't have been a trigger for you lots to also get yourselves out. Ironically enough, you lashed on your "Awera" and came seeking those bold enough to separate themselves from the North. That ALONE proves your so called fight was nothing but an attention seeking act. Secondly, the Southern minority were divided during the most. My part of the region was also neutral during the Biafra war despite being Igbos until your niggeria invaded and slaughtered my people. My bestfriend grandfather was a Biafra soldier and according to him, majority of his people did not fight for Nigeria despite Niggeria repeated attempt to rewrite history and say they did. Most of the Biafrans main foot soliders fight in modern day Akwa-Ibom and Calabar region were the minorities. Remind me again, was it not the Eastern minorities that Adekunle held in captive and tortured on the claim that "there might be Igbos among them?"

The fact that other Nigerians are not chanting Nnamdi Kanu or death does not mean we are not working towards restructuring. Series of meetings have been held recently by southern & middlebelt leaders. And we hope for more of those. I also foresee better movements in regards to this coming up, cos the eyes of the masses are being opened gradually and people like myself will surely be part of these movements in the shortest future.
Not until this current age of social media technology, majority of the masses have been living in ignorance.

We are having meetings. See this nigga. I repeat my question: WHAT TANGIBLE THINGS ARE "not supporting status quo" masses doing? NAME ONE? Beside loud mouthing on social media

IPOB received much hate from other Nigerians in return because they started out their campaign on the basis of hatred and insults for other Nigerians, simple and full stop.

Is that right, last I checked there was a VIDEO on this Internet of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of IPOB, protesting for Niggerian government to do something about Boko Haram. An act that was affecting your people more so than Igbos. I guess you were sleeping when the "not supporting mass Niggerians" were repeatedly wishing them death on social media before he ended up hating you lots and started preaching that fucking hate you gave. Now you want to play the victim.

As for Massob, I cannot remember seeing other Nigerian masses strongly against them except for the govt.

Oh really. Yes you must have been in coma. Do you want me to link you up to SEVERAL, not ONE, but SEVERAL threads on this forum as well as other news platform where Massobs were reported killed by Niggeria leaders and you Niggerians rejoiced and wished more death on them. Do you want the links because I would GLADLY do so right now.
Oh let's not forget Nnamdi Kanu was a member of Massob. And one of the main reason he felled out with Massob was due to how they were reacting to Niggerian masses hatred towards the group. Let me guess, Massob preached "hate speech" to una as well hence you delivish lots of the "not supporting status quo community" rejoiced their death and wished more death on them right?
Clap for yourself for the excuses

It's funny how you guys keep on blaming one Nigeria for the nature of your politicians, as if you people are not the ones electing them.
Was it Idomas, Hausas or yorubas that re-elected Obiano? Stupid irrational mindset of naive youths who have nothing to offer other than victim mentality.

Yes Nigeria is the reason why our leaders are incompetent illiterate. Prior to existence of Nigeria, the amount of corruption, political backwardness and stupidity was not present when our ancestors were not sharing a state with you niggas. In fact, the europeans even recorded that Igbos practiced semi-democracy prior to their arrival meaning the people contributed to the leadership of Igboland. Last I checked, prior to our ancestors sharing a nation with you people and sadly, we had this incompetence "leaders" as one of us, any Igbo leader found for corruption or anything that is detrimental to the well-being of the community was thrown to evil forest and family banished from the land. Unfortunately, in this shithole, they are protected as long as they are in the leading party. And sadly, our people do not seek their downfall due to you lots not seeking the downfalls of your own corrupt leaders but seeking ours. In addition, you lots are quick to inform us how most igbo leaders were trained in North or South West. Human beings tend to replicate behaviors they pick up from the environment they grew up in according to psychology.

Name which Nigerian election that was not corrupt free? Name which Nigerian leader that was actually elected by the people? You mean the same Obiano reelection that was boycotted and even reported by several people during that time of ballot stuffing by leaders likewise, some INEC officials who low key supported the Biafra exposed the results of their area with picture to back them up which ironically had different results from what INEC actually reported aka the corruption that shithole is known for likewise bribery to vote him in. Spare me your nonsense.

Igboid:


Exactly. It's the same demonic wicked mentality that had kept the country a failed under developed hell hole , now lagging behind the likes of Kenya, Botswana, Ethiopia, etc in human development indices, let's not talk about RSA, those ones are out of sight.

In years to come, they (Igbophobic) Nigerians would also tell their children, stories of how Nnamdi Kanu failed because he tried to force Niger deltans and Ndiigbo into Biafra. They wouldn't make mention of Kanu demand for referendum, just like their parents don't make mention of Ojukwu demand for a plebiscite, these people are naturally crooked, and I had determined that no way in hell is Nigeria ever going to crawl out of its failed third world status, with these people still part of it.

We need to severe ties with these people ASAP.

Not just their children as well, outsiders as well. They've already doing it. Because I talk about Biafra alot, One of my Afrocentric friend actually had a conversation with me a month ago about this shit. Dude was busy asking me why Igbos are forcing other tribe out of Nigeria. When I asked him who told him that? Guess what he said, a Yoruba friend of his told him Igbos are "always trying to dominate other small groups and we are constantly trying to divide Nigeria and forcing the minorities to Nigeria. Nnamdi Kanu is the recent one" I explained the whole thing to him and even informed him when Cameroon minorites voted to leave Nigerian and join Cameroon, not one single igbo leader stopped them. There part was in Eastern Nigeria. If Igbos wanted to dominate "small groups" would the leaders back then have allowed them to go?
Even informed him that Igbo was the ONLY large tribe in Nigeria that did not invade other smaller groups around us and try to annex them into the Igbos community. If our ancestors didn't try to dominate the smaller groups around them when they had the chance unlike the larger groups that keep accusing Igbo of "trying to dominate smaller groups", why then would we care to do it now considering we are giving them a choice unlike Niggeria.
Guess what he said after our discussion? He said and I quote " Wow. He painted a different story. why do Yoruba hate Igbo so much and why they keep talking bad about you guys so much?". Ironically, this is a statement from a black American. It makes me wonder WTF his Yoruba friend have said about us to him.

I'm with you on that. We truly need to excuse ourselves from this shithole. I mean wtf do Igbos even gain from being part of this sh1thole? Nothing!!

Nonaira3:

You see your ignorance. The lagos bill was for every region to contribute money for lagos. SEDC is for money coming directly from all SE region ALONE!! Know the difference before stupidly comparing apples and orange.

And when have Yoruba ever supported Igbos for any developmental aspect for the region to even remotely think of supporting them in an outright thivery for the "special status bill for Lagos." Name a reason they should have supported Lagos for all regions to pay them?

For this SEDC bill that was rejected in the House of reps, I think the problem must have been a misconception on the parts of many who think that the bill was to be funded by the FG.
This was what was carried in the news. Some house of rep members argued that since Imo & Abia were beneficiaries of NDDC, hence there will be no need for another commission.
Well, the bill has scaled for second reading in the senate. Let us see what it would become of in the senate.

No, we decided to give you Niggerians that hate your ancestors have given us since lord luggard and his LovePeddler of a wife dragged us in this hellish hole together.



Let me say it again, you Niggerians should rot in hell.

See who is talking about others giving them hate at first.
Who started the hate first? Perhaps, if you guys had not started the first coup that disrupted the peace and agreed independence settings of this country. We would have known who would have given hate first.
People who started hate by killing many other top-ranking Nigerian leaders and openly laughed at them to their face in the north are talking about others giving hate first. Smh.

Oh what a nice excuse. You asslick the north because you share neighbors with North. Last I checked, you middle belters share borders with SW and SE as well and last I checked, the only region you lots have asslicked repeatedly was North. You asslick because your community were benefitting the status quo of this useless nation until the north started showing you they still deemed as beneath them as far as they concerned. Afterall, many of the past leadership in which we call North leadership have been you middle belters as well. Despite, your repeated attempt to say the Fulani/Hausa are the only set that have benefitted the status quo.

Yes, parts of the middlebelt share boundary with the SW & SE, but the majority share boundary and have had more historical relationship with the north.
Most importantly, the middlebelt was classified politically as north by the colonialists. So, for many decades, we all looked up to Kaduna for political direction. We opposed it in the Willinks commission of 1956, but the British never listened to us. What were we to do? Fight the British?

Point of correction, we were not benefiting from the One Arewa status quo, if we did, why did we tell the Willinks commission of 1956 that we wanted our own region?

If we did, why did we form our own political party called the UMBC (United middlebelt congress), which played opposition politics in the Northern region and even National politics? This party dominated politics in much of the middlebelt during the regional govt.
You might be a naive teenager, so, go and read up about that before spewing thrash here!

What about the Tiv riots of 1966 against northern inclusion? Small boy who knows no history.

In addition, okorocha and Co ass licking to North has an excuse was due to their unholy birth and raising area. In addition, Okorocha was said to the birth child of a northern. What's worse, an illegitimate child trying to gain father's love or a man seeking power despite continuous to his people by the lots he ass lick.

Ok Okorocha was born in the north, what about Uzor Kalu? Amaechi?
Was Nzeogwu not also born in the north too? Did that stop him from killing northerners? Fake useless stories you people feed to your moronic masses in Aba.

And what told your savage ass that my contribution to IPOB have been online only? My best friend and I opened a Biafra group in America and that group have repeatedly worked with the US chapter of IPOB which have repeatedly went to Biafra and protested alongside the Biafra chapter stuck in that shithole you fool. My cousin is one of the leaders of Asaba chapter of IPOB, which again have worked tirelessly to increase awareness of Biafra sepeartion from your shitheads in Anioma. The only reason IPOB have not turned violent is because they are ignoring my and several ipob members statement to defend ourselves.

Any scallywag can claim anything online. Until you show us pics of you leading the forefront of the violent protests you are clamoring for in Nigeria, spare us these sermons.

Oh you mean the same thread I was present in. Tell your Bullshit to the person that listens to your ignorance. Last I checked, that thread they spoke of Zik establishing the first university to combat the generational lies of Yoruba. In fact that thread was more taunting Yoruba on their usual propaganda. Nowhere did they rejoice or praise Zik rather praised Igbo. Discussing of a historical fact is not praising incase you don't know. I guess to you me talking about when Nigerian gained her independence compared to South Africa would be I praising this shithole.

What is the difference? If Zik did not bring that University, would you ruffians have had anything to brag with?
''Love me and love my dog''. Hate Zik and hate every good thing that comes with him.

I love how you fools love accusing Ironsi of destroying your shithole progress. How long was Ironsi president? Last I checked, he lasted LESS than a year before he was assassinated. He removed your unitary system thus "stopping your progress" then explain to me, what stop you lots from changing it back to regain your progress after he was eliminated? Yep he destroyed your progress in LESS THAN A FUCKING YEAR.. What a nice way to excuse your incompetence, stupidity and backwardness on a president that wasn't even a president.

Well take back the hands of time if you can and undo Ironsi's mistake and see if we wouldn't have been better of as a nation by now. You cannot judge something without testing it.
Besides, if you reason well, you would have known that a single mistake of a minute is enough to perish an entire generation and country. And some mistakes are just too costly and irreversible. You do not even need a whole day to make a mistake as a human that would destroy your life
Besides, If Ojukwu had not declared independence, Gowon would not have created any states and after power would be handed over back to civilian rule, we would have gone back to our regions.
Hope you can see how Igbos are the pioneer cause of all of Nigeria's problems?
First Nzeogwu, 2nd Ironsi, 3rd Ojukwu.

What a nice way to blame whites for your asslicking. Yep it's whites fault that middle belters licked awera ass to maintain status quo until recently. Let's blame Europeans as usual....typical negro mentality.

If only you knew what evil plans the British had for northern minorities ehn, you will not utter trash with your mouth. All in the bid for administrative convenience, the British wanted to destroy the identity and existence of northern minorities. If not for our fighting back, you Igbos would have been more doomed and utterly voiceless in Nigeria today. Cos Hausa fulanis would have directly controlled more than half of Nigeria and share direct Neighborhood with you people. Then let's see if you Igbos who were conquered and ruled by Igalas in Nsukka and ruled by Benins in Anioma would have been able to defeat the Hausa fulanis who conquered parts of Jukun who conquered Igalas who ruled your own people in Nsukka.
Our people were able to wage the caliphate for almost a century.

That aside, during colonial rule, the British classified the entire Plateau under Bauchi emirate for instance, but our people rejected and broke out. In some areas, our fathers had to kill every fulani ruler sent to rule our areas, that was when it dawned on the British that some of us could never be under emirates and we were granted our own chiefdoms, yet, some were still dubiously manipulated under emirates.

The British denied the propagation of our native languages and radically promoted Hausa language as a lingua franca in our areas, infact, in some places like Southern Kaduna, it was so bad that almost all the towns were named in Hausa language, the indigenous names were destroyed.

Infact, if I start to list all the havocs that the British did to our people just for the sake of administrative convenience together with the north ehn, the entire nairaland would not be enough for me.
The fact that most of us do not cry of victimization and hatred from everyone always with victim mentality like you Igbos do, doesn't mean that we are not doing anything about it.

Most of Southern Kaduna for instance was under Emirate rule from Zaria not until 1992 and 2001, when they all broke up from Zaria rule with series of crisis. Today, they all have their own chiefdoms and rule themselves. Did you Igbos help them achieve that? No, they got it by themselves.

And I have a question for your blockhead. If we middlebelters have been enjoying one arewa since, why have we always been having fights with Hausa fulanis since before independence?

Go and check about the 1956 crisis in old Bauchi province. That was when it started.

Oh and btw: you are speaking to a westerner before you go on your rampage on "western minorities supported one western region." Most western minorities, my people included, were against western region hence most voted to be removed from western region. The fight for that removal started when whites were present.

Teacher don't teach me nonsense. Most Itsekiris & Edo north people (Akoko edo axis) were against creation of the midwest region. They thought they had more in common under yoruba leadership than under Benin leadership and they voted against it, but the Aniomas, Urhobos, Binis et al who are majority supported and won.

Oh story that touches. Gowon and Babaginda must be chinese. I love how you middle belters love to play innocent as if you think we aren't aware that middle belter played a hand in the looting of this shithole to being the miserable hellhole it is.

Still does not remove that the most backwards times of Nigeria political was when both you middle belters and the northern muslims ruled? Yay or nay?

Babangida claims to be from Gbagyi land in Niger state just like Abdulsalami, but go and ask any core Gbagyi man, they will tell you the truth.
Many Hausas migrated to Niger state area since colonial periods since Niger was always under the same colonial province with Sokoto and even the same state with Sokoto, not until 1976.
This made many Hausas heavily intermixed with the locals.
Babangida's father is from Sokoto originally. He is hausa by blood. There are so many hausas who claim Niger state, but because of islamic bond and sympathy, most Niger indigenes do not challenge these Hausas just like Plateau people for instance challenge Hausas and deny them indigeneship in Plateau state.
The former and current governors of Niger state are half hausa by blood (or even full hausa as some people claim). Most of we from other parts of the middlebelt do not even consider Niger state as part of the middlebelt. They seem to share more in common with Hausa fulanis. Can't you see that they were the only state to accept Sharia law in 2001 in the middlebelt?

Besides did the so called middlebelter Babangida not also kill Orkar a fellow middlebelter?

As for Gowon, he grew up in Zaria with Hausa fulanis. Gowon's family are even mixed with Hausas. That was why they wanted to bury his father in Zaria. You can imagine that. Gowon was also a nationalist.

The only thing I somehow remain thankful to Gowon for doing is the creation of Benue-Plateau state and other minority states which broke the majority groups hegemony over minorities in Nigeria.
Arewa hold over the middlebelt was entirely broken, not until your so called 'middlebelter' Babangida brought back the geo-political zones and brought back the middlebelt under the north as North-central.

As usual, you illiterates screech whatever illogical nonsense that comes into una brain. So Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB which began during GEJ rule and gained a high followers during GEJ RULE till the point their radio show became one of fastest growing radio show during GEJ rule and where Igbo leaders began getting insulted by the mass during GEJ rule did not occur bah. The same group also sent a letter to GEJ to divide the nation and also contributed to the high boycott in election by SE and some SS during the 2015 where not present. Or maybe to you, since Igbo was "benefitting from GEJ rule", the actions during that time by IPOB which had HIGH FOLLOWERS by IGBO during that time was unnecessary. Or maybe their actions became prevalent to you only when you learned about it. As usual, the niggerians logic Never seizes to amaze me.

So, who then were the people shouting GEJ till 2019 all over throughout 2014? Fulanis?
Majority of Igbos never talked about Biafra during GEJ's rule. It was after then that 'Biafra or death' chanting took over Igbo land.

I suggest research which ethnic group started the fight for niger delta republic. How long it's been going on and who is still fighting for it till this very day.


Yet ironically enough, the middle belters were the core fighters and the main leader when a man actually DIVIDED the nation. If you truly was in support of empanication out of "the so called "Northern leadership.", shouldn't have been a trigger for you lots to also get yourselves out. Ironically enough, you lashed on your "Awera" and came seeking those bold enough to separate themselves from the North. That ALONE proves your so called fight was nothing but an attention seeking act. Secondly, the Southern minority were divided during the most. My part of the region was also neutral during the Biafra war despite being Igbos until your niggeria invaded and slaughtered my people. My bestfriend grandfather was a Biafra soldier and according to him, majority of his people did not fight for Nigeria despite Niggeria repeated attempt to rewrite history and say they did. Most of the Biafrans main foot soliders fight in modern day Akwa-Ibom and Calabar region were the minorities. Remind me again, was it not the Eastern minorities that Adekunle held in captive and tortured on the claim that "there might be Igbos among them?"

Stories. Why then was there jubilation all over minority eastern areas when the new states were created? They were songs of freedom all over.

Why were all Igbo properties seized in PH by these same minorities?

Of course some minorities supported Biafra, but it was so clear that majority did not. If not there wouldn't have been so much joy when the Nigerian troops arrived in most parts of Rivers & Cross river.

We are having meetings. See this nigga. I repeat my question: WHAT TANGIBLE THINGS ARE "not supporting status quo" masses doing? NAME ONE? Beside loud mouthing on social media

Maybe we should start rioting before we prove a point to you?
What could be done other than Southern/Middlebelt leaders coming together to talk about it and plan towards it? Not everyone do things Kanu's way.

GEJ a southern minority became president, sth which would have been impossible on a normal day, but it happened, not with gra gra. Not everything is achieved with gra gra.

Is that right, last I checked there was a VIDEO on this Internet of Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of IPOB, protesting for Niggerian government to do something about Boko Haram. An act that was affecting your people more so than Igbos. I guess you were sleeping when the "not supporting mass Niggerians" were repeatedly wishing them death on social media before he ended up hating you lots and started preaching that fucking hate you gave. Now you want to play the victim.

Kanu's hatred was more and louder than whatever true concern he showed for the nation.
Even at that, a man John Danfulani came from Southern Kaduna and identified with him to the extent that Kanu was planning a rally in Kaduna. Did you see anyone from Southern Kaduna condemn John for identifying with Kanu or dissociating themselves from him?

Why don't you people talk about that? Were there not yorubas like FFK & Fayose who always supported Kanu?

Like I always keep on telling Igbos. Many of us other Nigerians (excluding Hausa -fulanis and yoruba muslims to an extent) actually believed in Kanu's ideas, we did not just buy the hate-based nature of his popularity & campaign. It was just too extreme.

Oh really. Yes you must have been in coma. Do you want me to link you up to SEVERAL, not ONE, but SEVERAL threads on this forum as well as other news platform where Massobs were reported killed by Niggeria leaders and you Niggerians rejoiced and wished more death on them. Do you want the links because I would GLADLY do so right now.
Oh let's not forget Nnamdi Kanu was a member of Massob. And one of the main reason he felled out with Massob was due to how they were reacting to Niggerian masses hatred towards the group. Let me guess, Massob preached "hate speech" to una as well hence you delivish lots of the "not supporting status quo community" rejoiced their death and wished more death on them right?
Clap for yourself for the excuses

To the best of my knowledge, Massob was also violent. Did they not attack and harass innocent traders and citizens too? They were nothing but a visionless group of swindlers if you ask me, and men did they swindle many gullible easternerns. Lol.

I somehow preferred Nnamdi Kanu, funny enough. He was louder, he had courage, he was somehow ingenious with the idea of starting a radio, but the hate-filled nature was just sth else.

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Nonaira3:

Yes Nigeria is the reason why our leaders are incompetent illiterate. Prior to existence of Nigeria, the amount of corruption, political backwardness and stupidity was not present when our ancestors were not sharing a state with you niggas. In fact, the europeans even recorded that Igbos practiced semi-democracy prior to their arrival meaning the people contributed to the leadership of Igboland. Last I checked, prior to our ancestors sharing a nation with you people and sadly, we had this incompetence "leaders" as one of us, any Igbo leader found for corruption or anything that is detrimental to the well-being of the community was thrown to evil forest and family banished from the land. Unfortunately, in this shithole, they are protected as long as they are in the leading party. And sadly, our people do not seek their downfall due to you lots not seeking the downfalls of your own corrupt leaders but seeking ours. In addition, you lots are quick to inform us how most igbo leaders were trained in North or South West. Human beings tend to replicate behaviors they pick up from the environment they grew up in according to psychology.

Are you sure you are a mentally stable person? Were we the ones who asked the British to come down here to colonize and amalgamate us with you Igbos? See me see trouble oo.
Why did your Igbo leaders as at the time of independence not tell the British loud and clear that they needed their own country and would not be able in one Nigeria? Just like the founding fathers of Pakistan told the British clearly at Indian independence that a united India btw muslims & Hindus would never work and the British saw reasons with them and divided India by religion at independence.

Blame your fathers and not us. The north even rejected independence earlier but Zik came along and kept on begging for one Nigeria, till Sardauna accepted, hence we gained our independence later than Ghana?

Naive teenagers who know nothing.

Besides, prior to independence, Igbo land was the most primitive of all Nigerian areas. In spite of the fact that you people were closer to the coasts. No Igbo civilization could match that of Kwararafa kingdom from present day middlebelt. Hence, even the Igala kingdom that was subject to Kwararafa ruled Igbos in Nsukka axis for donkey years.
Infact till date, whenever the Attah of Igala land is celebrating his birthday or anniversary, you need to see the calibre of traditional leaders from Nsukka that pay homage in Idah! ........ I witnessed that in the last anniversary of the Attah. And you can imagine that Nsukka is one of the largest Igbo sub groups, if not the largest sef.

This why majority Anioma people and Rivers people and even down to Onitsha prefer to take pride in the Bini kingdom. Mind you, I was born, bred and currently living in Delta state. So I lived with your people and know how many of them take so much pride in the Bini kingdom.

Really, what did Igbos achieve pre-colonialism compared to what the Yorubas, Hausas, Binis, Kwararafans and Kanem-Bornus achieved? Osu caste system?

Abeg let us not go into another axis.

Name which Nigerian election that was not corrupt free? Name which Nigerian leader that was actually elected by the people? You mean the same Obiano reelection that was boycotted and even reported by several people during that time of ballot stuffing by leaders likewise, some INEC officials who low key supported the Biafra exposed the results of their area with picture to back them up which ironically had different results from what INEC actually reported aka the corruption that shithole is known for likewise bribery to vote him in. Spare me your nonsense.

So are you trying to say that pro- Biafra Igbo leaders would have won politics all over Igbo land if not for Inec? Or what exactly is your point?

Ojukwu formed APGA, how much did you people support APGA? Ok, let me agree that INEC rig the governorship elections, what about the state electoral commissions organized and run by Igbos alone?

People who never want to take responsibility but always blame others for their woes. Nonsense.

Nowenuse:
..... Infact till date, whenever the Attah of Igala land is celebrating his birthday or anniversary, you need to see the calibre of traditional leaders from Nsukka that pay homage in Idah! ........ I witnessed that in the last anniversary of the Attah. And you can imagine that Nsukka is one of the largest Igbo sub groups, if not the largest sef.

This why majority Anioma people and Rivers people and even down to Onitsha, prefer to take pride in the Bini kingdom. Mind you, I was born, bred and currently living in Delta state. So I lived with your people and know how many of them take so much pride in the Bini kingdom.....

Oh lawd, I don talk say I no go laugh this night, but ....e be like say you just wan make dat boy cry, well-well today. See how you just demolished his assertions with facts, and knowledge. He will come back with another long epistle, "full of sound and fury signifying nothing," in a short while.

Alariiwo:


I'm only stating the obvious.

The young man was feeling himself already so I had to enlighten him.. Igbos should act now before it's too late.

BTW you're one bright lady here I've observed. It's a pity others from your side can't observe decorum. They can't stay a single day without chestbeating

Is anyone preventing you from beating your own chest?

[b]Besides, prior to independence, Igbo land was the most primitive of all Nigerian areas. In spite of the fact that you people were closer to the coasts. No Igbo civilization could match that of Kwararafa kingdom from present day middlebelt. Hence, even the Igala kingdom that was subject to Kwararafa ruled Igbos in Nsukka axis for donkey years.
Infact till date, whenever the Attah of Igala land is celebrating his birthday or anniversary, you need to see the calibre of traditional leaders from Nsukka that pay homage in Idah! ........ I witnessed that in the last anniversary of the Attah. And you can imagine that Nsukka is one of the largest Igbo sub groups, if not the largest sef.

This why majority Anioma people and Rivers people and even down to Onitsha prefer to take pride in the Bini kingdom. Mind you, I was born, bred and currently living in Delta state. So I lived with your people and know how many of them take so much pride in the Bini kingdom.

Really, what did Igbos achieve pre-colonialism compared to what the Yorubas, Hausas, Binis, Kwararafans and Kanem-Bornus achieved? Osu caste system? grin

Abeg let us not go into another axis. [/b]


Please, could you explain more what you mean by Igboland being the most primitive of all parts of pre colonial Nigeria.
Any precolonial documentation from you to back this Igbophobic claim Up?

Nri civilization was more sophisticated and influential than your backward kwararafa.
This is easily represented in Nri message of peace, acceptance and peaceful co existence .
Nri art works as found in Igboukwu is also unrivalled throughout Nigeria, it was far superior than those of Ife, Nok or Bini. Notice that I never mentioned kwararafa, as they were insignificant.

France ruled Britain for years, Nordic tribes invaded Britain as well.
Does it make the Nordic tribes more civilized than Britain? It simply mean the Nordic tribes more savagery , militarized, and imperialistic. The Mongols also ruled China.
However, Igalas were pushed back by Northern Igbos, they were defeated, and the remnant of them in Igboland, forced to assimilate into the greater Igbo culture.
Igala monarchs were tyrants, just like Binis. The end result was that endless waves of Igala and Bini refuges seeking for new peaceful lands landed in Northern and Western Igbo.
These Igala and Bini people were acculturated by Igbos in Western Igbo and Northern Igbo into Igbo ways, but they retain ancestral kinship with Binis and Igalas, creating Identity crisis.
The only reason we are not hearing "I no be Ibo, I be Igala " from Northern Igbos is that they had been politically administered in same political sphere, as the rest of Ndiigbo since 1914. If they were swapped with Western Igbos who hadn't been in same political unit as the rest of Igboland since 1939, they would have developed their own identity crisis as well.


Confused Anioma people talk about Bini as a defeatist attitude. They all want to run away from the Igbophobic attitude of the rest of Nigeria.

Strong Anioma people don't talk about Bini, they remain unapologetically Igbo. From Achuzia, to Asagba of Asaba, to Utomi, and to our very own Ikechukwu ( Onenaira), whom you have been exchanging posts with here, they are all proud Igbos.

What did Yorubas achieve in precolonial Nigeria? They couldn't even evolve enough to learn the delicate act of peaceful resolution of conflicts, something Nri priests mastered centuries before and had applied throughout Igboland. The Yorubas were fighting a civil war amongst each other, so brutal that they happily welcomed the British colonialization as a route of escape.

Were the Yorubas art works superior to those of Nri and Ndiigbo?
What exactly did Yorubas achieve/invent in pre colonial Nigeria?


Bini? That glorified village Kingdom ? What exactly did they achieve? Even Aro mounted more resistance to the British than Bini could muster.

Kwararafa is an inconsequential entity, nobody talk about them, they never invented any thing worthwhile.

Hausas? Are you kidding me?