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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:11pm On Apr 06, 2018
Joebie:
he is not a tribalist.. He wants all the tribes to be well represented in the SE.. Federal character kind thinz grin



Smiles I will not say much
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:19pm On Apr 06, 2018
Joebie:
he is not a tribalist.. He wants all the tribes to be well represented in the SE.. Federal character kind thinz grin



Let me boast a little.

I don't think as a boy who grew up in a family that boast of the first Professor of Medcine, the first Nigerian to earn BA degree abroad as an external student in Nigeria, first Nigerian to open an Indigenous Bank in Nigeria etc is interested or believes in Federal character but I am humble and despite no one.

I haven't even said anything.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:27pm On Apr 06, 2018
Mickael2:



double standards bro. when its Nacho they say it was lack of preseason that caused it

They are not just objective my bros. I just tire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:38pm On Apr 06, 2018
So you don't think that the NFF has a list of all the Nigerian players playing professionally overseas that they had supplied to Gernot Rohr? Oh boy, please give it a break!

To hear you talk about Kayode, someone may be mistaken to think that you're talking about a Lionel Messi or something shocked


O pari

forgiveness:


Does Rohr knows all the Nigerian players abroad?

Probably, some Nigerians are the ones suggesting players to Rohr.

In that case, he doesn't stand a chance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:40pm On Apr 06, 2018
Not sure whether you remember that they tried the same thing with Clemence Westerhof just before the 1994 World Cup. Nigeria has a problem!


O pari

Joebie:
he is not a tribalist.. He wants all the tribes to be well represented in the SE.. Federal character kind thinz grin


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:44pm On Apr 06, 2018
Icon79:
So you don't think that the NFF has a list of all the Nigerian players playing professionally overseas that they had supplied to Gernot Rohr? Oh boy, please give it a break!

To hear you talk about Kayode, someone may be mistaken to think that you're talking about a Lionel Messi or something shocked


O pari


Does NFF have such a list?? I do not think the NFF knows all Nigerians playing abroad.. At least not in any organized way.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:49pm On Apr 06, 2018
lexyman:




all these players you mentioned are doing well in their respective club , not just club , but one of the best league in the world .... if Martins is doing that magic in Everton , that is lowly rated among the club those players yoy mentioned played ... sincerely all of us with want him .

The core issue is not league but the issue of performance ability related to age. There are some here who are way to quick to dismiss players just on age. That's the question ❓

You are expanding the issue keep it in context.

The issue of age becomes more contentious considering we do not have automatic birth data capture. So we shouldn't be bothered about having the youngest team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 4:52pm On Apr 06, 2018
His agent is actually a relative. infact when you check that space, it has 'relatives" as agent name. he should get a known name or something of sort to manage him.
Martz101:


I'm a Nigerian and I love to see Nigeria player do well, so I wish he get playing time, but then again our player find it difficult making good choice

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 5:21pm On Apr 06, 2018
komekn:


The core issue is not league but the issue of performance ability related to age. There are some here who are way to quick to dismiss players just on age. That's the question ❓

You are expanding the issue keep it in context.

The issue of age becomes more contentious considering we do not have automatic birth data capture. So we shouldn't be bothered about having the youngest team.

i am not particular about age .but i want a team for the future ....if you ask me , the core members of this team to go to the next world cup , our chances of doing well is so glaring ... provided they keep improving .by then we will have garnered experience and metamophose into that solid team we re all dreaming of .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:26pm On Apr 06, 2018
Well, they should if they didn't. I mean, I can understand if they miss a few foreign born players, but getting such record should be at the top of their priority.


O pari


O pari

tbaba1234:


Does NFF have such a list?? I do not think the NFF knows all Nigerians playing abroad.. At least not in any organized way.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:29pm On Apr 06, 2018
INTERVIEW TYRONNE EBUEHI: DREAMS OF EUROPEAN FOOTBALL AND THE WORLD CUP

Few players could count on as much attention in January as Tyronne Ebuehi. Would he or could not leave at ADO Den Haag? Despite great interest from Benfica, the right back still remained in The Hague. He is assured of playing time there. And that is important to him in view of the World Cup.

It can go fast. Those words are absolutely applicable to Ebuehi's career at the moment (22). A year and a half ago, the Haarlemmer finally managed to play definitively in the ADO Den Haag team. A few months later his good play was noticed in the country of his father, Nigeria. After having been in the selection of the 'Super Eagles' for the first time in March 2017, Ebuehi debuted on June 1 in a friendly match against Togo. In November, the right back played his second international match against the Argentine powerhouse, in which he left an excellent impression. Nigeria even won 4-2. The stormy development of Ebuehi seemed to be rewarded in January with a transfer to Benfica, which eventually ended.

Development

Ebuehi is not the type to go to float after all those beautiful performances. But he can not deny that he has had a good time. "A year ago I did not dare to think that I would get the attention of such a big club and play in the national team, it could indeed go fast in football, I see it as a result of daily working hard to get better, that's already paying off, but I'm not there yet, I have to keep developing myself, I have not finished at ADO Den Haag yet. playing the viewer for the World Cup. "

That opportunity had been considerably smaller if Ebuehi had already departed from The Hague during the last transfer period. There was no guarantee of a lot of playing time at Benfica. In retrospect, the Nigerian is also not very sorry that the transition is not (yet) ongoing. "It was not my goal to leave ADO Den Haag at all costs this winter, I am still young, my time is coming, I am just very happy that I am still playing here and the coach gave me that advice. 'Stay at ADO Den Haag, at least you can make minutes there'. "

Last month for Nigeria preparations for the World Cup started with a practice match against Poland. In Russia itself the African country takes on Argentina, Iceland and Croatia. According to Ebuehi, what are Nigeria's chances in that pool? "That's hard to say, even though we won from Argentina in November, it's still a very difficult opponent, especially when Lionel Messi is competing, which was not the case for us." Also Iceland and Croatia have shown good teaming I think we will certainly win the next round, but then everything has to be right. "

Dreaming

Too much Ebuehi does not want to think about the World Cup for the rest. He realizes that he has not yet played a definitive part in the selection. That is why the right back wants to end the season with ADO Den Haag. And that is until now for the club and Ebuehi itself a great season. He becomes an increasingly stable factor in the team, and missed only two games, due to a suspension and an injury. Most important of all: ADO Den Haag is in a neat ninth place. "It's going very well, yes, we do not have to look down and everything is quiet around the club, which of course we are not satisfied yet. If we take the lead again after the loss against AZ, we can really have European football. it would be something, eh European football and the World Cup Yes, the dream would be complete. "

Source: ADO Den Haag website

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:31pm On Apr 06, 2018
Icon79:
Well, they should if they didn't. I mean, I can understand if they miss a few foreign born players, but getting such record should be at the top of their priority.


O pari


It is 9ja o!! Poor record keeping.. How do you think, league players keep changing their age?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 5:49pm On Apr 06, 2018
Are u listening to what you are saying? I don't know how we rationalize things and I have no bias for any player. I say it as it is. How would you say Ajagun has passed his prime when his mates are still very much active in the SE and we are hoping they invite the other. Omeruo, Shehu, Agbo and Kayode are all Ajaguns mate but you insist Ajagun has passed his prime. Hmmmm God is watching some of us.




Chrismario:


Forget that, Ajagun has passed his prime
Only a miracle will give him a slot in 70 man list

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:51pm On Apr 06, 2018
Joebie:
Put thiose rankings in your trash. It doesn't always add up. Today Nigeria is ranked below 40 in the world. Can u beat your chest and say all the teams above us in the rankings will beat us. Similarly you cannot say a player is better than another just only because of the league they play. Put those rankings in the trash. While rankings can be a good reference point sometimes,
but it does not hold most times in reality.
Would Kayode even manage to score a goal in Serie A? -- Let me use ur overplayed logic, what was Kayode doing at age 19?




I am very suprised at you making that kind of sweeping statement. See the bold.

Tell me one nation in the past 40 years that has won the world cup that was not ranked in the top 10

Tell me one club that has one tye champions league that it's league was not ranked in the top 10.

In actual fact in both permutations it's more like top 5 as opposed to top 10.

Have no doubt top players will play in top leagues and top clubs eventually.

Reality what is your reality. Tell me one not two just one please, player who has a rating that is not reflective of his standing that we have in thier current club.

Your descriptive diction (most times) is very sweeping and totally misleading. You seem to have little appreciation of this science of football analysis.

Of course there will be exceptions but broadly speaking rankings are indicative of the reality. That's why it's possible that a team that is ranked well below us can beat us and vice versa. After all what was south Africa ranking when they played us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:59pm On Apr 06, 2018
I learned this in my childhood, that once someone proclaims themselves as humble they are actually proud. Humble people don't do that. Everything else u said does not score u any point.

Modified
Feel free to also add that someone from ur clan also built nairaland
grin or was the first to fly a plane. How has all that inspired you? Can't u also be inspired by Dankote or Orji Kalu for example? . Just helping u think. You don't score points that way.



forgiveness:


Let me boast a little.

I don't think as a boy who grew up in a family that boast of the first Professor of Medcine, the first Nigerian to earn BA degree abroad as an external student in Nigeria, first Nigerian to open an Indigenous Bank in Nigeria etc is interested or believes in Federal character but I am humble and despite no one.

I haven't even said anything.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:02pm On Apr 06, 2018
Martz101:


[b]The problem with Nigerian players is that we rarely improve, [/b]musa could have worked on his finish and footwork and Sadiq can improve his physique, they are all comfortable to be mediocre

Gbam.

Bros, I said this before. But sometimes in this thread, when you air opinions, you may be tagged hater.

The fact that the arrived in Europe is a big dream come true to them and many of them just relax and get carried away by the allure of it all.

They aren't working hard to improve their game. And their agents aren't even helping matters by not speaking sense into their heads. They're only interested in the money

Only a few of them has showed vast improvement. Ndidi, awaziem, John ogu (like his work ethic and passion for the GWG).

Time Will tell. Hopefully, the new generation will approach their career with a different mentality

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:04pm On Apr 06, 2018
Lucque:
Nawao... Make Una take am easy... D heat from d arguments here wan melt my phone... Choi... U ppl cannot argue without applying heat ND calling other ppl names??

We don kuku talk tire.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:07pm On Apr 06, 2018
by trash I was only saying he should not use that in this argument. Rankings is irrelevant in this discussion. Rankings can be used in other contexts as a reference.

In individual sports rankings have a greater significance. In team sports there are many factors that are considered, which is why I cannot just do a player to player comparison purely based on club rankings (and that was the actual context.

Komekn I can take u in this if u want us to apply that logic to comparing players. And we are going to use players that are not Nigerians. Let me know when u are ready.


komekn:


I am very suprised at you making that kind of sweeping statement. See the bold.

Tell me one nation in the past 40 years that has won the world cup that was not ranked in the top 10

Tell me one club that has one tye champions league that it's league was not ranked in the top 10.

In actual fact in both permutations it's more like top 5 as opposed to top 10.

Have no doubt top players will play in top leagues and top clubs eventually.

Reality what is your reality. Tell me one not two just one please, player who has a rating that is not reflective of his standing that we have in thier current club.

Your descriptive diction (most times) is very sweeping and totally misleading. You seem to have little appreciation of this science of football analysis.

Of course there will be exceptions but broadly speaking rankings are indicative of the reality. That's why it's possible that a team that is ranked well below us can beat us and vice versa. After all what was south Africa ranking when they played us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:08pm On Apr 06, 2018
andrew444:


Kayode will not go to the World Cup you can rant as you like,there was a time you where quiet,but seems the guy scored his first shaktar your ranting has began again.

Keep on doing campaign for Yoruba players,I thank God you are not part of the coaching crew.

You will never speak of a Samuel kalu or a fit onyekuru,but you will rant over a kayode who is trying to get back to form,keep on ranting ? What about seyi ojo? Have you forgotten about him so soon ?

Dude, I'm saying this with all due respect, the bolded comments only belong in the politics section of nairaland.

I'm not fully in agreement with all of sir forgiveness opinions but not all the foreign borns he clamored for are yoruba.

People, let's discourage tribalism talk of any kind and stop this please angry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:10pm On Apr 06, 2018
Yes that mentality is sickening
Icon79:
Not sure whether you remember that they tried the same thing with Clemence Westerhof just before the 1994 World Cup. Nigeria has a problem!


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:11pm On Apr 06, 2018
Dedebanky85:
Are u listening to what you are saying? I don't know how we rationalize things and I have no bias for any player. I say it as it is. How would you say Ajagun has passed his prime when his mates are still very much active in the SE and we are hoping they invite the other. Omeruo, Shehu, Agbo and Kayode are all Ajaguns mate but you insist Ajagun has passed his prime. Hmmmm God is watching some of us.





It was a really surprising comment.

But everyone is entitled to his opinion. Maybe he mistook him for someone else
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:13pm On Apr 06, 2018
forgiveness:

Typical Nigerian, never agree he is wrong.
As you wish others, may God treat you likewise in double folds.
bro you got nothing else to say, just shut it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:16pm On Apr 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Let me boast a little.

I don't think as a boy who grew up in a family that boast of the first Professor of Medcine, the first Nigerian to earn BA degree abroad as an external student in Nigeria, first Nigerian to open an Indigenous Bank in Nigeria etc is interested or believes in Federal character but I am humble and despite no one.

I haven't even said anything.


nobody ask you for your family profile, if you like be the first man on earth it won't make your dumb argument sensible

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:16pm On Apr 06, 2018
That's what holding Nigeria back. Tribalism plus corruption are the bane of the Nigerian society.


O pari

Joebie:
Yes that mentality is sickening
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:20pm On Apr 06, 2018
He is Nigeria's Messi - fast legs
Icon79:
So you don't think that the NFF has a list of all the Nigerian players playing professionally overseas that they had supplied to Gernot Rohr? Oh boy, please give it a break!

To hear you talk about Kayode, someone may be mistaken to think that you're talking about a Lionel Messi or something shocked


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 6:21pm On Apr 06, 2018
tbaba1234:
INTERVIEW TYRONNE EBUEHI: DREAMS OF EUROPEAN FOOTBALL AND THE WORLD CUP

Few players could count on as much attention in January as Tyronne Ebuehi. Would he or could not leave at ADO Den Haag? Despite great interest from Benfica, the right back still remained in The Hague. He is assured of playing time there. And that is important to him in view of the World Cup.

It can go fast. Those words are absolutely applicable to Ebuehi's career at the moment (22). A year and a half ago, the Haarlemmer finally managed to play definitively in the ADO Den Haag team. A few months later his good play was noticed in the country of his father, Nigeria. After having been in the selection of the 'Super Eagles' for the first time in March 2017, Ebuehi debuted on June 1 in a friendly match against Togo. In November, the right back played his second international match against the Argentine powerhouse, in which he left an excellent impression. Nigeria even won 4-2. The stormy development of Ebuehi seemed to be rewarded in January with a transfer to Benfica, which eventually ended.

Development

Ebuehi is not the type to go to float after all those beautiful performances. But he can not deny that he has had a good time."A year ago I did not dare to think that I would get the attention of such a big club and play in the national team, it could indeed go fast in football, I see it as a result of daily working hard to get better, that's already paying off, but I'm not there yet, I have to keep developing myself, I have not finished at ADO Den Haag yet. playing the viewer for the World Cup.


Source: ADO Den Haag website
I can see Sir Icon4s smiling at the bolds.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:22pm On Apr 06, 2018
Our brand of corruption is #1. Tribalism especially with the LOWER class. They cling to tribes as answer to everything.

Icon79:
That's what holding Nigeria back. Tribalism plus corruption are the bane of the Nigerian society.


O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:23pm On Apr 06, 2018
grin
Martz101:


nobody ask you for your family profile, if you like be the first man on earth it won't make your dumb argument sensible

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:27pm On Apr 06, 2018
Haha!! But unfortunately for him, he failed to live up to that billing when he was given an opportunity to break into the team.

Now, he would have to go to the back of the line and wait for his turn.


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Joebie:
He is Nigeria's Messi - fast legs
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:34pm On Apr 06, 2018
I really do hope he comes good if/when Rohr gives him another opportunity so Oga forgivesness could shut us up. Lol

Icon79:
Haha!! But unfortunately for him, he failed to live up to that billing when he was given an opportunity to break into the team.

Now, he would have to go to the back of the line and wait for his turn.


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:38pm On Apr 06, 2018
Same here. I feel the same way, but that's not gonna happen until after the World Cup tho. I don't see him making this world cup team ... so forgiveness/komekn can cry us a river if he wants.


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Joebie:
I really do hope he comes good if/when Rohr gives him another opportunity so Oga forgivesness could shut us up. Lol

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:39pm On Apr 06, 2018
Throwback JT. About to jam to that song lol

Icon79:
Same here. I feel the same way, but that's not gonna happen until after the World Cup tho. I don't see him making this world cup team ... so forgiveness/komekn can cry us a river if he wants.


O pari

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