edi287:

Why is Oliseh fighting to remain as coach though?? He should just take the compensation and leave. Those guys sound ungrateful

his fighting to be the coach because of his CV, he already got them promotion

andrew444:


Just the way Graziano Pellè who could not score up to 10 goals in seria A went to the premier league and scored 15 for Southampton a season

that dude reasoning eehh..
so absurd.....an intelligent person won't draw up prepositions so easily to make such claims...
because it is not absolutely verifiable...they're variables at play...

a player may do badly in the dutch league..and he will move to England and do wonders....
properly the team tactics suits him,
he has improved on himself....
his team mates influence etc...

sometimes when we take this things in we won't reason foolishly....
I could not reply one who was claiming the Chinese players will play better and do more than dessers and umar if they were in the dutch league.....
could not use common sense...tell..if the Chinese league was that super and technical...it would have abeit reflects in the national team....
Chinese team can't even match the Netherlands under 23 team...let alone the national team..of Netherlands.
they have not been in the world cup for a long time now and can't even win the Asian nations cup....can't even get to the final..

forgiveness:


What case?

It is now WEMA.

You didn't understand my message. And I doubt I can explain it to you in a way you will understand. Anyway I was right in mentioning Agbonmagbe bank

Humility017:

that dude reasoning eehh..
so absurd.....an intelligent person won't draw up prepositions so easily to make such claims...
because it is not absolutely verifiable...they're variables at play...

a player may do badly in the dutch league..and he will move to England and do wonders....
properly the team tactics suits him,
he has improved on himself....
his team mates influence etc...

sometimes when we take this things in we won't reason foolishly....
I could not reply one who was claiming the Chinese players will play better and do more than dessers and umar if they were in the dutch league.....
could not use common sense...tell..if the Chinese league was that super and technical...it would have abeit reflects in the national team....
Chinese team can't even match the Netherlands under 23 team...let alone the national team..of Netherlands.
they have not been in the world cup for a long time now and can't even win the Asian nations cup....can't even get to the final..

That is the reason the chinese spend money for players....The chinese players are crap and we know it,even the zambia national team is rated higher than the chinese team...But mind you the chinese league has many world class players over there.

Ever since I stopped reading Southgate's posts I swear I enjoy this thread more. Once I see his post I just scroll on.

Oh what peace we often forfeit, ooh what needless pain we bear, all because we never learnt to jump and pass.

I've learnt it and it's sweet. Anybody's posts you can't bear please try ignoring it. You will gain more. Try it and thank me later. Ignore my advice - continue to bicker and gripe from needless arguments especially with those who are set in their ways. Choice is yours!

komekn:


Just to make sure I get your view in context.

Essentially you are saying that there are players who left Seria A and basically ripped the EPL and became outstanding that means in the top 5 of players performance for thier particular position.

Please just name 5 players thats all not a multitude to prove your point.

I will in turn name 10 players.

This is to educate ourselves no animosity or hostility.

let me help him

1. Kanu
2. Zola
3. Henry
4.veira
5. Paolo di canio

this players lighted up the premier league

tbaba1234:
Ideye did not make the Malaga team for the third time in a row.. He is not injured..

ideye will get another top team after Malaga relegation, his agent is doing the magic

Martz101:


ideye will get another top team after Malaga relegation, his agent is doing the magic

This your comment get k leg,it speaks volume about your mind set.

Truidstar:
Reading posts from yesterday. I respect everyone's opinion and think everyone is entitled to have his/her own opinion. Just want to raise some issues with some names being bandied here.
Austin Ejide: Say we take him to the world cup, what is the long term gain? Is he still going to be around in 2-3 years time?

Dele Aiyenugba: Active in the Israeli first division for years now. We take him to the world cup. What happens after? Is he still as good as he was when himself and Enyeama were at their peak? History has taught us from Rufai in France 98.

Uzoho: Am a staunch supporter. Is he ready based on what we have seen? I have my doubts. But an Uzoho at the world cup will grow in confidence into his role. Do we have the luxury to tolerate his errors has he grows into his role? An Uzoho in 4 years time if he fulfills his potential will be an absolute beast between the sticks.

Aluko: Granted he has been overlooked. He is 29 now. He comes into the AMF role. After the world cup what's next? Can we rely on him in 4 years time? He will be 33 by then, planning to retire.

Kayode: Skillful a good goal poacher on his day. Leaving Austria Wien was a big error. Should have remained in Austria knowing the World cup is around the corner. Man city should have loaned him back to Austria Wien. He is at Shaktar now, think time is too short for him to make an appreciable impact.

Ajagun: Did well in Greece before moving to Belgium. The question is what does he have to offer that we don't already have. If he is indeed 25, Age is on his side, his chance will come if he misses this train.

It is only human for us to show concern and sometimes panic. But let us trust Rohr. He knows what he is doing. We should support our team irrespective of who gets selected.

An aside: Was at a burial yesterday, knows someone that knows someone that has heard and knows someone.....Its like Uduokhai is in the bag.

And ......yeah.....CYRIL DESSERS!!!!!!!

Your post is filled with after worldcup what next, the worldcup is not the planning time but executing time, any player can retire after playing the worldcup.infact to me is the best time to retire

The German team that won the last worldcup is very different from the one that won the confederations cup and also favourite for the 2018 worldcup, there is no more klose, lahm, schweinsteiger,Lucas Podolski and mertasacker, and some regular in the last worldcup are not there anymore Gotze( who might not make the team), schurle and Mario Gomez.

sorry I'm using the gemern team too much as an example, but in 2006 worldcup they had jens Lehman(36years) as No1 and Oliver kahn(36years) as No2, you really have to be wonderful at a young age to be trusted with goal keeping responsibility.

Ejide, Aiyenugba and even Mikel can retire if they want if we make the worldcup semi final, we sure have time to regroup and have a good team again, the core of the team is very young, I just hope Rohr know the worldcup is not the competition of who has the youngest team.

watching his goals and assists last term I still see world class quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hDNokRMdM

BascoVanVeli:


Ibra came into England a world class player and no matter how you try to put it Salah didn't.

koxyz:
This your comment get k leg,it speaks volume about your mind set.

I have nothing against him, I'm just making you guys underatand how powerful some agent are. A.c Milan signed Borini after relegation with Sunderland

Mujtahida:
Ever since I stopped reading Southgate's posts I swear I enjoy this thread more. Once I see his post I just scroll on.

Oh what peace we often forfeit, ooh what needless pain we bear, all because we never learnt to jump and pass.

I've learnt it and it's sweet. Anybody's posts you can't bear please try ignoring it. You will gain more. Try it and thank me later. Ignore my advice - continue to bicker and gripe from needless arguments especially with those who are set in their ways. Choice is yours!

Now this right here is a man who has earned his stripes in the doctorate level of Savagery... Welcome to Savagery 4.0

komekn:


Attributes are not proven until tested.

When you say a player who has not played more than 20 professional games is. EXCELLENT TALENT that must be transferred to the field of play.

Why did he have to leave Seria A and Roma to come to the Belgium league Yes lack of opportunity agreed but if was that good then he should have been given opportunity in Seria A. Particularly as this a league his attributes of physicality speed and skill will give him clear advantage.

The way he continously falls over is a lack of strength and balance but I think there may be an issue of flat feet and poor ankle mobility as well. The way he falls over at the slightest physical confrontation for such a big guy is not normal.

Compare him to Tega Abrahams and Lukaku see the difference.

My biased view as some will call it, is he will not survive league 1 in England.

Nonetheless, I think he has potential but he hasnt shown enough yet to be called to the SE.

Unfortunately Obagoal is injured our only true top quality proven and tested striker.

Your direct and frank approach works for me. Umar is as average as they come as far as I'm concerned.

I cant understand why we glorify mediocrity just because one finds his way to Europe. If we are getting that desperate to go with Umar, then it should be worth considering Ideye who to say the least, can ride and survive challenges whilst standing on his feet.

andrew444:


That is the reason the chinese spend money for players....The chinese players are crap and we know it,even the zambia national team is rated higher than the chinese team...But mind you the chinese league has many world class players over there.

world class coaches too, some guys think is easier for players in the Chinese league, is even more tasking, in the Chinese league 3 foreign players are allowed in the match day squad, so players like Mikel will be attempting assist for some crappy players, and the likes of hulk and Pato will be expecting to get assist from some flat footed players

Joebie:
watching his goals and assists last term I still see world class quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hDNokRMdM

SAlah left As Roma as their best player and he made the Seria A team of the season 2 times consecutively. I don't understand why people are frightened at the the thought he could actually be better than Moses.

Martz101:


world class coaches too, some guys think is easier for players in the Chinese league, is even more tasking, in the Chinese league 3 foreign players are allowed in the match day squad, so players like Mikel will be attempting assist for some crappy players, and the likes of hulk and Pato will be expecting to get assist from some flat footed players

lol

Joebie:
Mikel: Is over 30. What if we take him to the world cup, what happens next?

Therein lies the question. Like a wall gecko that loses its tail, it will definately grow back. When he calls it a day, someone out there will definitely step up.

Martz101:


Your post is filled with after worldcup what next, the worldcup is not the planning time but executing time, any player can retire after playing the worldcup.infact to me is the best time to retire

The German team that won the last worldcup is very different from the one that won the confederations cup and also favourite for the 2018 worldcup, there is no more klose, lahm, schweinsteiger,Lucas Podolski and mertasacker, and some regular in the last worldcup are not there anymore Gotze( who might not make the team), schurle and Mario Gomez.

sorry I'm using the gemern team too much as an example, but in 2006 worldcup they had jens Lehman(36years) as No1 and Oliver kahn(36years) as No2, you really have to be wonderful at a young age to be trusted with goal keeping responsibility.

Ejide, Aiyenugba and even Mikel can retire if they want if we make the worldcup semi final, we sure have time to regroup and have a good team again, the core of the team is very young, I just hope Rohr know the worldcup is not the competition of who has the youngest team.

Good you mentioned the German Team. They are one of the favorites for the world cup but how many of their players are ranked in the top 10 in the world? They no longer produce super stars. They have evolved to become efficient, ruthless and tireless workers. My point is Rohr has a young team, let's trust this team. The Germans started a project in 2006 and won the world cup in 2014.

Good afternoon people. Is anyone watching the commonwealth weightlifting game? What's the update on our Nigerian competetor? Hope the knee injury isn't fatal?

A whole Zambia? former powerhouse and still one of the powerhouses in African football is what you are belittling like this? Zambia is "even"?

andrew444:


That is the reason the chinese spend money for players....The chinese players are crap and we know it,even the zambia national team is rated higher than the chinese team...But mind you the chinese league has many world class players over there.

Then same can be said of the other names you listed in your writeups. Worldcup is not where you go to grow your players, rather a place you go to showcase your grown and tested players!

World cup is like Final exam, not for test, Continuous assessment or home work.

Truidstar:
Therein lies the question. Like a wall gecko that loses its tail, it will definately grow back. When he calls it a day, someone out there will definitely step up.

somehow:
A whole Zambia? former powerhouse and still one of the powerhouses in African football is what you are belittling like this? Zambia is "even"?

Bros no mind me i no try for that side....Na wetin come my mouth,I supposed use like madagascar national team

goldfish80:


Your direct and frank approach works for me. Umar is as average as they come as far as I'm concerned.

I cant understand why we glorify mediocrity just because one finds his way to Europe. If we are getting that desperate to go with Umar, then it should be worth considering Ideye who to say the least, can ride and survive challenges whilst standing on his feet.

Ideye that has not even made the Malaga bench in the last few games. Umar is making team of the week performances every week.

Yet you admit that you have not watched Umar recently.. At least, make a objective opinion after watching a few games.

Yea, maybe China is like a rich and populous Tanzania, Kenya, Mozambique or maybe Madagascar

andrew444:


Bros no mind me i no try for that side....Na wetin come my mouth,I supposed use like madagascar national team

tbaba1234:


Ideye that has not even made the Malaga bench in the last few games. Umar is making team of the week performances every week.

Yet you admit that you have not watched Umar recently.. At least, make a objective opinion after watching a few games.

My opinion is very objective. Last I watched Ideye, he was hands down the man of the match against Valencia (I think), even though he was on the loosing side. If he haven't made the bench over the the past few weeks, it should be an indication that he's injured and maybe the injury was not reported by the associated press.

Secondly, the Eredivisie is a very weak league. Dutch football is no longer taken seriously in Europe. Can you name any serious world cup contender who will parade a single player from the Eredivisie? The answer is a capital NO! That should tell you how embarrassing low Dutch football have gone.

I have caught a few glimpse of Umar at Nac Breda but honestly, I still the old turn over merchant Umar ,who trips over his shoe laces.

With the poverty football on display in the 2 last friendlies, we actually need more naturally gifted players up front, who can unlock defenses with shear creativity not another hipster in the front lines.

goldfish80:


SAlah left As Roma as their best player and he made the Seria A team of the season 2 times consecutively. I don't understand why people are frightened at the the thought he could actually be better than Moses.

He is better than Moses right now..no debate about that..no one would debate Moses and Salah right now..

Truidstar:


Good you mentioned the German Team. They are one of the favorites for the world cup but how many of their players are ranked in the top 10 in the world? They no longer produce super stars. They have evolved to become efficient, ruthless and tireless workers. My point is Rohr has a young team, let's trust this team. The Germans started a project in 2006 and won the world cup in 2014.

That means you didn't understand my long writeup, the Germans started there wonderful project in 2006 but they had ballack, Oliver Kahn and Jens Lehman.

The German project was not about the players but the system, the german have a way they play and maintain on that way, even there youth system play that same way. The German project was not about building a young side or neglecting the older player.

This should be easy to understand, now back to Nigeria, if Ejide or/and Aiyenugba is called back and after the tournament they retire nothing will happen, Uzoho can carryon with Afcon and start building up from there.

Uzoho will not stand the pressure of playing in a worldcup stadium, that worldcup could actually break him and his wonderful career.

bengine:


He is better than Moses right now..no debate about that..no one would debate Moses and Salah right now..

As far as I am concerned, moses was never better Dan Salah,I don't even knw who brut up d issue

goldfish80:


Your direct and frank approach works for me. Umar is as average as they come as far as I'm concerned.

I cant understand why we glorify mediocrity just because one finds his way to Europe. If we are getting that desperate to go with Umar, then it should be worth considering Ideye who to say the least, can ride and survive challenges whilst standing on his feet.

Umar is a very mobile forward and can retain possession also with his style of play..his finishing and decision making is not there yet but a guy like that at 21 has age on his side to improve..

Since we are looking for another forward, he offers something most of our other strikers don't have..he can be our third striker behind Ighalo and nacho..but i really do think he has something to offer this team...

The only reason I think so is because of our style of play, we rely a lot on our inverted wingers, I think he could make the Nigerian side look more dangerous even thou is finishing is not there yet..

Truidstar:


Good you mentioned the German Team. They are one of the favorites for the world cup but how many of their players are ranked in the top 10 in the world? They no longer produce super stars. They have evolved to become efficient, ruthless and tireless workers. My point is Rohr has a young team, let's trust this team. The Germans started a project in 2006 and won the world cup in 2014.

I want to make a prediction: our team might not make it out of the first round. But if the core of the team stays together we will do well going forward.

What I have said is not my heart desire oo

Mujtahida:

I want to make a prediction: our team might not make it out of the first round. But if the core of the team stays together we will do well going forward.

What I have said is not my heart desire oo

If we don't make it pass d 1st round


Most members of d team,at least 70percent won't b called again,at least for a while

And ROHR WOULD BE FIRED!!!

elyte89:



If we don't make it pass d 1st round


Most members of d team,at least 70percent won't b called again,at least for a while

And ROHR WOULD BE FIRED!!!

The likely effect of what you just said is that in 2022 we will fail again and the beat goes on.