Chuba Akpom with a goal for St. Truiden

bengine:


[b]Ighalo or Ideye don't have the defensive discipline to play in a 4-3-3..[/b]one of them would have to track back to help defensively..[b]you can only play one of them as strikers..both can't work..[/b]both are pure strikers..nacho with one of them works because he is not a pure striker. And u can't even play nacho in a 433 with Ighalo leading the line..

@the first bold, Ideye has once played the wide man in a 4-3-3 for the SEs and he excelled in that role. He brought out the best in Emenike during AFCON'13.

the second bold is assumptive. We can never write them off just like that. The only problem is that time is against us and there is no longer room for experimentation(as I've stated in my earlier post).

All that is needed to be done is to find a quick fix to the inability of our point men to score and how do we do that? Get a potent striker to provide more options for the coach.

safarigirl:
he is reinforcing, you'd have to know him personally to know if he was worried. Rohr never stated he was worried

I wonder what Argentina's coach will be doing by now if Rohr is worrying.

congo4ka:

watching you in 7D

tbaba1234:


How can you have an impression of a player without watching his recent games?

There are two types of strikers, One who needs to be supplied to have an impact and another who can make things happen even when supply is not great.

We have plenty of the first option. I think Umar offers the second option.. The willingness to take on defenders directly is something we do not have amongst our striking options. He has been responsible for several penalties and freekicks this season. That could be vital in a tight game.

Aaron Samuel?? Really?? Aaron scored in his last game but has anyone watched Aaron recently.. A shadow of the player called up by Keshi.

ooooo yes....i watch him through online streaming...he is always winning penalties and free-kicks at dangerous positions...its like this his contant fallings can used to our advantage..why not? We play according to our strenght..all is fair...Another thing i like about him is that he is not afraid to take on two or even three defenders and he doesnt turn back ooooo...very courageous...its been long we had his type of striker

gamaliel9:


ooooo yes....i watch him through online streaming...he is always winning penalties and free-kicks at dangerous positions...its like this his contant fallings can used to our advantage..why not? We play according to our strenght..all is fair...Another thing i like about him is that he is not afraid to take on two or even three defenders and he doesnt turn back ooooo...very courageous...its been long we had his type of striker

Exactly, he is not afraid to take on players and that inevitably leads to fouls against him. In a tight game, you might need free kicks and penalties to make the difference.

gamaliel9:


ooooo yes....i watch him through online streaming...he is always winning penalties and free-kicks at dangerous positions...its like this his contant fallings can used to our advantage..why not? We play according to our strenght..all is fair...Another thing i like about him is that he is not afraid to take on two or even three defenders and he doesnt turn back ooooo...very courageous...its been long we had his type of striker

Why was he not taking defenders in Sergio_A?

forgiveness:


Why was he not taking defenders in Sergio_A?

How many starts did he get in Serie A? He had to wait for Bellotti to get injured to start a few games for Torino.. And he did take on defenders when he had the chance.

forgiveness:


Why was he not taking defenders in Sergio_A?

Not enough opportunity...Those team he played for had more experience and quality strikers[ Dzeko,Bellottti,etc]. He was taking-on defenders ooo,seriously. I think Umar is under construction like a building or a road

Joebie:
i don put two monikers on ignore mode..

Welcome to the party. You will find yourself free from needless arguments. Enjoy!

tbaba1234:


How many starts did he get in Serie A? He had to wait for Belleti to get injured to start a few games for Torino.. And he did take on defenders when he had the chance.

Bros, I was the first person here to clamor for Sadiq Umar's invitation to the national team and Olympics team because I followed his games bumper to bumper but I didn't see him do what he is doing now I the Eredivise in the Seria A.

It simply means Eredivise is not up to the standard of Sergio_A to cut it short and simple.

forgiveness:


Why was he not taking defenders in Sergio_A?

See question!

gamaliel9:



Not enough opportunity...Those team he played for had more experience and quality strikers[ Dzeko,Bellottti,etc]. He was taking-on defenders ooo,seriously. I think Umar is under construction like a building or a road

I watched his games and I think the defenders were more experienced in the Sergio_A. Though I acknowledged he was not give a time but I didn't see him do that in the Seria A.

bengine:


Guy you don start again, which one be league one..you always quick to downgrade our players to championship and league one..if you put messi in that league one, I doubt he would shine, na so so police ball dem go they play..

I actually agree with you.

However, Ronaldo would probably stand out.

It's a hard league to play good technical football but if you can somehow overcome all those obstacles and play a skill based technical individual game then you will stand out then coming to the EPL will not be too difficult.

That is where Dele Alli came from England arguably most skillful player followed by Adam Llanna also came from league 1 with Southampton and in more recent times England current best defender ( my opinion) Gomez came from League one. And closer home so also did Ademola Lookman.

Do you know how hard it is to play technically proficient skill based football, when you are surrounded by carpenters and water carriers.


However there are a few teams that play good football like Chartlton, MK Dons, Peterborough and Shrewsbury. Don't forget MK Dons disgraced Manchester United a few years ago beating them 4-1 if I remember correctly.

Downgrade is a very sweeping statement. Did I down grade Obagoal, V.Moses Mikel, Ighalo, Ndidi, KC., etc

You are being misleading. We are taking about a 21 year old who has not played up to twenty professional games in his entire career. And I stand by what I say Sadiq who you say is extremely strong fast and skillful will struggle in League one. So those attributes are questionable when put to comparison.

tbaba1234:


Exactly, he is not afraid to take on players and that inevitably leads to fouls against him. In a tight game, you might need free kicks and penalties to make the difference.

free kicks?
not when Moses will bully nancho and Moses Simon misuse them....

we will never get anything useful from free kicks should it be left to Moses V. to play.
he is not an accurate shooter of the ball and rarely shot wit precision.

komekn:


I actually agree with you.

However, Ronaldo would probably stand out.

It's a hard league to play good technical football but if you can somehow overcome all those obstacles and play a skill based technical individual game then you will stand out then coming to the EPL will not be too difficult.

That is where Dele Alli came from England arguably most skillful player followed by Adam Llanna also came from league 1 with Southampton and in more recent times England current best defender ( my opinion) Gomez came from League one. And closer home so also did Ademola Lookman.

Do you know how hard it is to play technically proficient skill based football, when you are surrounded by carpenters and water carriers.


However there are a few teams that play good football like Chartlton, MK Dons, Peterborough and Shrewsbury. Don't forget MK Dons disgraced Manchester United a few years ago beating them 4-1 if I remember correctly.

I read somewhere you wrote...."you doubt if sadiq umar will be able to make it in league 1"
please tell me you never said that.....

Russian Premier League:

Can you spot the Nigerians?

forgiveness:


Bros, I was the first person here to clamor for Sadiq Umar's invitation to the national team and Olympics team because I followed his games bumper to bumper but I didn't see him do what he is doing now I the Eredivise in the Seria A.

It simply means Eredivise is not up to the standard of Sergio_A to cut it short and simple.

Chief he does take on defenders in seria A, that is his style of play..he just didn't get enough minutes to showcase himself plus the rustiness of sitting on the bench affects a player confidence...that confidence is what he is gaining back at eredivise since he is getting more minute..

When Roma played against Psg in the friendly, he was taking on their defenders like crazy..watch the highlight again..this were champion league defenders ooo..I was in the stadium that day, I was surprised he had that kind of flair..this were psg first team defenders ooo..I was even surprised when I saw those defenders playing in champions league, at that time the only psg defender I recognised then was thiago silva and kurzawa..in fact Dani alves played on that day too..please watch the highlight again..

The point I'm trying to make is he is not afraid of any defender, that has his style, he has a directness about him..

Mujtahida:
Ever since I stopped reading Southgate's posts I swear I enjoy this thread more. Once I see his post I just scroll on.

Oh what peace we often forfeit, ooh what needless pain we bear, all because we never learnt to jump and pass.

I've learnt it and it's sweet. Anybody's posts you can't bear please try ignoring it. You will gain more. Try it and thank me later. Ignore my advice - continue to bicker and gripe from needless arguments especially with those who are set in their ways. Choice is yours!

Hahahahahahhahahhaahahhahahah

I swear I don laugh scatter for ground for this your post. His posts and that of his friend are like toxins...

I read them,... I very much still read them... But you know what ...?... I jump am pass!!!

I don graduate from provoke stage... I dey laughing stage now

I read.. Laugh ... Then jump and pass...!!! no time

AIG07:
@the first bold, Ideye has once played the wide man in a 4-3-3 for the SEs and he excelled in that role. He brought out the best in Emenike during AFCON'13.

the second bold is assumptive. We can never write them off just like that. The only problem is that time is against us and there is no longer room for experimentation(as I've stated in my earlier post).

All that is needed to be done is to find a quick fix to the inability of our point men to score and how do we do that? Get a potent striker to provide more options for the coach.

And too be honest we don't have any real potent striker..the only potent guy on the team is nacho and he is not a pure striker..

Joebie:
Russian Premier League:

Can you spot the Nigerians?

Kai Dele Adeleye still dey and good to see Fengor Ogude,also Aaron Samuel trying to shake thing up and ever present Bryan Oladapo Idowu.Good one from you Joebie.

na cuz of Adeleye I take that snapshot..

Kog45:
Kai Dele Adeleye still dey and good to see Fengor Ogude,also Aaron Samuel trying to shake thing up and ever present Bryan Oladapo Idowu.Good one from you Joebie.

Joebie:
na cuz of Adeleye I take that snapshot..

I know but really surprised that the guy is still playing,possibly we still have some of this guys doing it at higher level.Kudos Joebie.

How true is this??

bengine:


Nothing to be offended for sir, you are only expressing your opinion...Ideye doesn't have Umars dynamism and unpredictability..they both have poor finishing in common...I doubt ideye has anything to offer this team..his hold up play and linkage is already being offered by Ighalo...

As it stands, Rohr wants to use Musa has our third striker but that doesn't stop him from playing him on the wing..all this guys we are clamouring for might not make the 23man list..I really don't want Musa has our third striker,.

Musa HAS ok

4 Nigerians in total, chei, we dey Waka o

Joebie:
Russian Premier League:

Can you spot the Nigerians?

CAF and Nigerians brought up this issue. I think only Nigerians must have voted for Moses in the polls. No sane human being would ever compare both as Salah is miles/kilometers ahead

elyte89:



As far as I am concerned, moses was never better Dan Salah,I don't even knw who brut up d issue

isan:
How true is this??

Peak Oliseh paired with Ndidi would solve all our creative problems.
Oliseh is soo underrated sha. One of the foremost registas.

Dedebanky85:
CAF and Nigerians brought up this issue. I think only Nigerians must have voted for Moses in the polls. No sane human being would ever compare both as Salah is miles/kilometers ahead

When I said Vic Moses wouldn't make the final 3, people probably felt I was hating. Told them to bookmark the post.
I still Voted for Vic Moses for the BBC award sha (my cousin told me to "represent"

bengine:


Nothing to be offended for sir, you are only expressing your opinion...Ideye doesn't have Umars dynamism and unpredictability..they both have poor finishing in common...I doubt ideye has anything to offer this team..his hold up play and linkage is already being offered by Ighalo...

As it stands, Rohr wants to use Musa has our third striker but that doesn't stop him from playing him on the wing..all this guys we are clamouring for might not make the 23man list..I really don't want Musa has our third striker,.

Let's stop this. Assuming we're taking out finishing, Ideye is comfortably a better option than Umar. I like Umar, but sorry Ideye is better when it comes to linking up play. I also think Ideye is underrated on the ball. Like someone said earlier, he can play alongside Ighalo/Nacho in a 4-3-3 which can easily morph to a 4-4-2 or as the main CF with someone like Nacho out wide.
Ideye was 75 percent responsible for Emenike's success from the 2013 afcon and afterward. Emenike mostly struggled without him.
I personally feel we need creativity. Aluko for example can play as a 10, outwide and even as a false 9. That's the type of options we should be looking to add to the team(assuming if Rohr is still scouting)

edi287:

Let's stop this. Assuming we're taking out finishing, Ideye is comfortably a better option than Umar. I like Umar, but sorry Ideye is better when it comes to linking up play. I also think Ideye is underrated on the ball. Like someone said earlier, he can play alongside Ighalo/Nacho in a 4-3-3 which can easily morph to a 4-4-2 or as the main CF with someone like Nacho out wide.
Ighalo was 75 percent responsible for Emenike's success from the 2013 afcon and afterward. Emenike mostly struggled without him.
I personally feel we need creativity. Aluko for example can play as a 10, outwide and even as a false 9. That's the type of options we should be looking to add to the team(assuming if Rohr is still scouting)

Ideye has 6 goals in 27 games for the super eagles... That is 1 goal every 4.5 games.... His record is even worse than Ighalo.. How does that make him a better option in finishing?

Ideye-Emenike partnership was 5 years ago 2013.. Since then, several things have happened, Emenike for one is no longer in the team.

Ideye has failed to impress in the confederations cup, went on a terrible barren spell for Nigeria, failed in West brom, had a decent spell in greece, was poor in China, has not been great in Spain and He has been left out the last three games with no injury.

Ideye is a hard-working player but his recent results are limited. Facts...

In terms of style of play, Ideye and Ighalo are also fairly similar...

Granted, we need creativity and it might be late for someone like Umar but it does not mean that it should not be talked about.

Martz101:

Musa HAS ok

you mean that one...that has only pace and sometimes can run past the ball... please give us another name...