If only you knew what evil plans the British had for northern minorities ehn, you will not utter trash with your mouth. All in the bid for administrative convenience, the British wanted to destroy the identity and existence of northern minorities. If not for our fighting back, you Igbos would have been more doomed and utterly voiceless in Nigeria today. Cos Hausa fulanis would have directly controlled more than half of Nigeria and share direct Neighborhood with you people. Then let's see if you Igbos who were conquered and ruled by Igalas in Nsukka and ruled by Benins in Anioma would have been able to defeat the Hausa fulanis who conquered parts of Jukun who conquered Igalas who ruled your own people in Nsukka.
Our people were able to wage the caliphate for almost a century.

That aside, during colonial rule, the British classified the entire Plateau under Bauchi emirate for instance, but our people rejected and broke out. In some areas, our fathers had to kill every fulani ruler sent to rule our areas, that was when it dawned on the British that some of us could never be under emirates and we were granted our own chiefdoms, yet, some were still dubiously manipulated under emirates.

The British denied the propagation of our native languages and radically promoted Hausa language as a lingua franca in our areas, infact, in some places like Southern Kaduna, it was so bad that almost all the towns were named in Hausa language, the indigenous names were destroyed.

Infact, if I start to list all the havocs that the British did to our people just for the sake of administrative convenience together with the north ehn, the entire nairaland would not be enough for me.
The fact that most of us do not cry of victimization and hatred from everyone always with victim mentality like you Igbos do, doesn't mean that we are not doing anything about it.

Most of Southern Kaduna for instance was under Emirate rule from Zaria not until 1992 and 2001, when they all broke up from Zaria rule with series of crisis. Today, they all have their own chiefdoms and rule themselves. Did you Igbos help them achieve that? No, they got it by themselves.

And I have a question for your blockhead. If we middlebelters have been enjoying one arewa since, why have we always been having fights with Hausa fulanis since before independence?

Go and check about the 1956 crisis in old Bauchi province. That was when it started.

Teacher don't teach me nonsense. Most Itsekiris & Edo north people (Akoko edo axis) were against creation of the midwest region. They thought they had more in common under yoruba leadership than under Benin leadership and they voted against it, but the Aniomas, Urhobos, Binis et al who are majority supported and won.

The only thing I somehow remain thankful to Gowon for doing is the creation of Benue-Plateau state and other minority states which broke the majority groups hegemony over minorities in Nigeria.
Arewa hold over the middlebelt was entirely broken, not until your so called 'middlebelter' Babangida brought back the geo-political zones and brought back the middlebelt under the north as North-central.

Besides, If Ojukwu had not declared independence, Gowon would not have created any states and after power would be handed over back to civilian rule, we would have gone back to our regions.
Hope you can see how Igbos are the pioneer cause of all of Nigeria's problems?
First Nzeogwu, 2nd Ironsi, 3rd Ojukwu.

So, who then were the people shouting GEJ till 2019 all over throughout 2014? Fulanis?
Majority of Igbos never talked about Biafra during GEJ's rule. It was after then that 'Biafra or death' chanting took over Igbo land.

JikanBaura:


When igbo politicians are patriotic enough to their tribe and resign demanding your freedom , mass back-migration of igbos to their land. Dont your people see how it was done in other part of the world

Namdi Kanu igbos most influential son, Nigeria armies invade his house and he is nowhere to be found, surprisingly your igbos have kept quiet, you are no longer talking about him, no more agitating, you are now back into the system as wellers not soscestionist.
Wallahi igbos have surprised and dissapointed me, you betray Kanu, wallahi i was scare that you will burn Nigeria if anything happens to him.... Mtswwt just shame on you double face , I told myself to never take your tribe serious, just hope Kanu is still alive so he would learn a big lesson.

If it yoruba or Hausa people that want Nigeria devide the story will be different because they won't betray theirselves, their leaders like you.

honeychild:


My dear nobody likes a braggart. Not even God.

Prov 6:16,17:
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 [/b]A proud look [b],a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Prov 8:13
13The fear of the LORD is to hate evil:[/b] pride, and arrogancy,[b] and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Nowenuse:
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Are you sure you are a mentally stable person? Were we the ones who asked the British to come down here to colonize and amalgamate us with you Igbos? See me see trouble oo.

Why did your Igbo leaders as at the time of independence not tell the British loud and clear that they needed their own country and would not be able in one Nigeria? Just like the founding fathers of Pakistan told the British clearly at Indian independence that a united India btw muslims & Hindus would never work and the British saw reasons with them and divided India by religion at independence.

Blame your fathers and not us. The north even rejected independence earlier but Zik came along and kept on begging for one Nigeria, till Sardauna accepted, hence we gained our independence later than Ghana?

Naive teenagers who know nothing.

Besides, prior to independence, Igbo land was the most primitive of all Nigerian areas. In spite of the fact that you people were closer to the coasts. No Igbo civilization could match that of Kwararafa kingdom from present day middlebelt.

Hence, even the Igala kingdom that was subject to Kwararafa ruled Igbos in Nsukka axis for donkey years.
Infact till date, whenever the Attah of Igala land is celebrating his birthday or anniversary, you need to see the calibre of traditional leaders from Nsukka that pay homage in Idah! ........ I witnessed that in the last anniversary of the Attah. And you can imagine that Nsukka is one of the largest Igbo sub groups, if not the largest sef.

This why majority Anioma people and Rivers people and even down to Onitsha prefer to take pride in the Bini kingdom. Mind you, I was born, bred and currently living in Delta state. So I lived with your people and know how many of them take so much pride in the Bini kingdom.

Really, what did Igbos achieve pre-colonialism compared to what the Yorubas, Hausas, Binis, Kwararafans and Kanem-Bornus achieved? Osu caste system?

So are you trying to say that pro- Biafra Igbo leaders would have won politics all over Igbo land if not for Inec? Or what exactly is your point?

People who never want to take responsibility but always blame others for their woes. Nonsense.

resurgentxtian4:

It’s not even the victim mentality but the pride.

Alariiwo:


I'm only stating the obvious.

The young man was feeling himself already so I had to enlighten him.. Igbos should act now before it's too late.

BTW you're one bright lady here I've observed. It's a pity others from your side can't observe decorum. They can't stay a single day without chestbeating

Alariiwo:
Truth be told, it's a sad development..

But then, Zik an Igbo man stood against the referendum clause, claiming he wanted one Nigeria by fire by force out of greed to rule over all other tribes.

The reason you didn't see reactions is cos you Igbos are the architects of your own downfall in Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


For this SEDC bill that was rejected in the House of reps, I think the problem must have been a misconception on the parts of many who think that the bill was to be funded by the FG.
This was what was carried in the news. Some house of rep members argued that since Imo & Abia were beneficiaries of NDDC, hence there will be no need for another commission.
Well, the bill has scaled for second reading in the senate. Let us see what it would become of in the senate.

See who is talking about others giving them hate at first.
Who started the hate first? Perhaps, if you guys had not started the first coup that disrupted the peace and agreed independence settings of this country. We would have known who would have given hate first.
People who started hate by killing many other top-ranking Nigerian leaders and openly laughed at them to their face in the north are talking about others giving hate first. Smh.

Yes, parts of the middlebelt share boundary with the SW & SE, but the majority share boundary and have had more historical relationship with the north.

Most importantly, the middlebelt was classified politically as north by the colonialists. So, for many decades, we all looked up to Kaduna for political direction. We opposed it in the Willinks commission of 1956, but the British never listened to us. What were we to do? Fight the British?

Point of correction, we were not benefiting from the One Arewa status quo, if we did, why did we tell the Willinks commission of 1956 that we wanted our own region?

If we did, why did we form our own political party called the UMBC (United middlebelt congress), which played opposition politics in the Northern region and even National politics? This party dominated politics in much of the middlebelt during the regional govt.
You might be a naive teenager, so, go and read up about that before spewing thrash here!

What about the Tiv riots of 1966 against northern inclusion? Small boy who knows no history.

Ok Okorocha was born in the north, what about Uzor Kalu? Amaechi? [quote]
Was it not recently after he was indicted for corruption that Kalu became a northern ass licker? Do you even understand the concept of "one to save his own ass." Call me when common sense gets to your head.
Oh now Amaechi is Igbo. Just love how you lots pick and choose when to call him Igbo. Laughable to say the least. Amaechi is Ikwerre and Ikwerre he'll be. Go take your nonsense about him to Igbos that sees Ikwerre as one of us cause I ain't one of them.

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Was Nzeogwu not also born in the north too? Did that stop him from killing northerners? Fake useless stories you people feed to your moronic masses in Aba.

Any scallywag can claim anything online. Until you show us pics of you leading the forefront of the violent protests you are clamoring for in Nigeria, spare us these sermons.

What is the difference? If Zik did not bring that University, would you ruffians have had anything to brag with?
''Love me and love my dog''. Hate Zik and hate every good thing that comes with him.

Well take back the hands of time if you can and undo Ironsi's mistake and see if we wouldn't have been better of as a nation by now. You cannot judge something without testing it.

Besides, if you reason well, you would have known that a single mistake of a minute is enough to perish an entire generation and country. And some mistakes are just too costly and irreversible. You do not even need a whole day to make a mistake as a human that would destroy your life

Besides, If Ojukwu had not declared independence, Gowon would not have created any states and after power would be handed over back to civilian rule, we would have gone back to our regions.
Hope you can see how Igbos are the pioneer cause of all of Nigeria's problems?
First Nzeogwu, 2nd Ironsi, 3rd Ojukwu.

If only you knew what evil plans the British had for northern minorities ehn, you will not utter trash with your mouth. All in the bid for administrative convenience, the British wanted to destroy the identity and existence of northern minorities. If not for our fighting back, you Igbos would have been more doomed and utterly voiceless in Nigeria today. Cos Hausa fulanis would have directly controlled more than half of Nigeria and share direct Neighborhood with you people. Then let's see if you Igbos who were conquered and ruled by Igalas in Nsukka and ruled by Benins in Anioma would have been able to defeat the Hausa fulanis who conquered parts of Jukun who conquered Igalas who ruled your own people in Nsukka.
Our people were able to wage the caliphate for almost a century.

That aside, during colonial rule, the British classified the entire Plateau under Bauchi emirate for instance, but our people rejected and broke out. In some areas, our fathers had to kill every fulani ruler sent to rule our areas, that was when it dawned on the British that some of us could never be under emirates and we were granted our own chiefdoms, yet, some were still dubiously manipulated under emirates.

The British denied the propagation of our native languages and radically promoted Hausa language as a lingua franca in our areas, infact, in some places like Southern Kaduna, it was so bad that almost all the towns were named in Hausa language, the indigenous names were destroyed.

Infact, if I start to list all the havocs that the British did to our people just for the sake of administrative convenience together with the north ehn, the entire nairaland would not be enough for me.
The fact that most of us do not cry of victimization and hatred from everyone always with victim mentality like you Igbos do, doesn't mean that we are not doing anything about it.

Most of Southern Kaduna for instance was under Emirate rule from Zaria not until 1992 and 2001, when they all broke up from Zaria rule with series of crisis. Today, they all have their own chiefdoms and rule themselves. Did you Igbos help them achieve that? No, they got it by themselves.

And I have a question for your blockhead. If we middlebelters have been enjoying one arewa since, why have we always been having fights with Hausa fulanis since before independence?

Go and check about the 1956 crisis in old Bauchi province. That was when it started.

Teacher don't teach me nonsense. Most Itsekiris & Edo north people (Akoko edo axis) were against creation of the midwest region. They thought they had more in common under yoruba leadership than under Benin leadership and they voted against it, but the Aniomas, Urhobos, Binis et al who are majority supported and won.

Babangida claims to be from Gbagyi land in Niger state just like Abdulsalami, but go and ask any core Gbagyi man, they will tell you the truth.
Many Hausas migrated to Niger state area since colonial periods since Niger was always under the same colonial province with Sokoto and even the same state with Sokoto, not until 1976.
This made many Hausas heavily intermixed with the locals.
Babangida's father is from Sokoto originally. He is hausa by blood. There are so many hausas who claim Niger state, but because of islamic bond and sympathy, most Niger indigenes do not challenge these Hausas just like Plateau people for instance challenge Hausas and deny them indigeneship in Plateau state.
The former and current governors of Niger state are half hausa by blood (or even full hausa as some people claim). Most of we from other parts of the middlebelt do not even consider Niger state as part of the middlebelt. They seem to share more in common with Hausa fulanis. Can't you see that they were the only state to accept Sharia law in 2001 in the middlebelt?

Besides did the so called middlebelter Babangida not also kill Orkar a fellow middlebelter?

As for Gowon, he grew up in Zaria with Hausa fulanis. Gowon's family are even mixed with Hausas. That was why they wanted to bury his father in Zaria. You can imagine that. Gowon was also a nationalist.

The only thing I somehow remain thankful to Gowon for doing is the creation of Benue-Plateau state and other minority states which broke the majority groups hegemony over minorities in Nigeria.

Arewa hold over the middlebelt was entirely broken, not until your so called 'middlebelter' Babangida brought back the geo-political zones and brought back the middlebelt under the north as North-central.

So, who then were the people shouting GEJ till 2019 all over throughout 2014? Fulanis?

Majority of Igbos never talked about Biafra during GEJ's rule. It was after then that 'Biafra or death' chanting took over Igbo land.

Stories. Why then was there jubilation all over minority eastern areas when the new states were created? They were songs of freedom all over.

Nowenuse:


Why were all Igbo properties seized in PH by these same minorities?

Of course some minorities supported Biafra, but it was so clear that majority did not. If not there wouldn't have been so much joy when the Nigerian troops arrived in most parts of Rivers & Cross river.

Maybe we should start rioting before we prove a point to you?
What could be done other than Southern/Middlebelt leaders coming together to talk about it and plan towards it? Not everyone do things Kanu's way.

GEJ a southern minority became president, sth which would have been impossible on a normal day, but it happened, not with gra gra. Not everything is achieved with gra gra.

Kanu's hatred was more and louder than whatever true concern he showed for the nation.
Even at that, a man John Danfulani came from Southern Kaduna and identified with him to the extent that Kanu was planning a rally in Kaduna. Did you see anyone from Southern Kaduna condemn John for identifying with Kanu or dissociating themselves from him?

Why don't you people talk about that? Were there not yorubas like FFK & Fayose who always supported Kanu?

Like I always keep on telling Igbos. Many of us other Nigerians (excluding Hausa -fulanis and yoruba muslims to an extent) actually believed in Kanu's ideas, we did not just buy the hate-based nature of his popularity & campaign. It was just too extreme.

To the best of my knowledge, Massob was also violent. Did they not attack and harass innocent traders and citizens too? They were nothing but a visionless group of swindlers if you ask me, and men did they swindle many gullible easternerns. Lol.

I somehow preferred Nnamdi Kanu, funny enough. He was louder, he had courage, he was somehow ingenious with the idea of starting a radio, but the hate-filled nature was just sth else.

Igboid:
[b]Besides, prior to independence, Igbo land was the most primitive of all Nigerian areas. In spite of the fact that you people were closer to the coasts. No Igbo civilization could match that of Kwararafa kingdom from present day middlebelt. Hence, even the Igala kingdom that was subject to Kwararafa ruled Igbos in Nsukka axis for donkey years.
Infact till date, whenever the Attah of Igala land is celebrating his birthday or anniversary, you need to see the calibre of traditional leaders from Nsukka that pay homage in Idah! ........ I witnessed that in the last anniversary of the Attah. And you can imagine that Nsukka is one of the largest Igbo sub groups, if not the largest sef.

This why majority Anioma people and Rivers people and even down to Onitsha prefer to take pride in the Bini kingdom. Mind you, I was born, bred and currently living in Delta state. So I lived with your people and know how many of them take so much pride in the Bini kingdom.

Really, what did Igbos achieve pre-colonialism compared to what the Yorubas, Hausas, Binis, Kwararafans and Kanem-Bornus achieved? Osu caste system? grin

Abeg let us not go into another axis. [/b]


Please, could you explain more what you mean by Igboland being the most primitive of all parts of pre colonial Nigeria.
Any precolonial documentation from you to back this Igbophobic claim Up?

Nri civilization was more sophisticated and influential than your backward kwararafa.
This is easily represented in Nri message of peace, acceptance and peaceful co existence .
Nri art works as found in Igboukwu is also unrivalled throughout Nigeria, it was far superior than those of Ife, Nok or Bini. Notice that I never mentioned kwararafa, as they were insignificant.

France ruled Britain for years, Nordic tribes invaded Britain as well.
Does it make the Nordic tribes more civilized than Britain? It simply mean the Nordic tribes more savagery , militarized, and imperialistic. The Mongols also ruled China.
However, Igalas were pushed back by Northern Igbos, they were defeated, and the remnant of them in Igboland, forced to assimilate into the greater Igbo culture.
Igala monarchs were tyrants, just like Binis. The end result was that endless waves of Igala and Bini refuges seeking for new peaceful lands landed in Northern and Western Igbo.
These Igala and Bini people were acculturated by Igbos in Western Igbo and Northern Igbo into Igbo ways, but they retain ancestral kinship with Binis and Igalas, creating Identity crisis.
The only reason we are not hearing "I no be Ibo, I be Igala " from Northern Igbos is that they had been politically administered in same political sphere, as the rest of Ndiigbo since 1914. If they were swapped with Western Igbos who hadn't been in same political unit as the rest of Igboland since 1939, they would have developed their own identity crisis as well.


Confused Anioma people talk about Bini as a defeatist attitude. They all want to run away from the Igbophobic attitude of the rest of Nigeria.

Strong Anioma people don't talk about Bini, they remain unapologetically Igbo. From Achuzia, to Asagba of Asaba, to Utomi, and to our very own Ikechukwu ( Onenaira), whom you have been exchanging posts with here, they are all proud Igbos.

Igboid:






This is the insincerity I speak of.

In one breathe, you claim state creation was bad, and you blamed not the one who created them, ie Gowon, the same one who refused to hand over power to civilians and return the political structures back to status quo, instead you blame Ironsi, Nzeogwu and Ojukwu for Gowon actions.

Then secondly, you claim to be happy with Gowon creation of states, and in this case, you accord the credit of state creation, which you now presented as good thing, to Gowon who created them, and not to Ironsi, Nzeogwu and Ojukwu, as you had earlier done.

You had created a scenario, where everything you perceive bad about Nigeria must be credited to Ndiigbo, while those you perceive to be good must be credited to non Igbos, and you expect Igbos to allow this your craft stand, as any attempt by them to debunk them is quickly termed hate messages and victim card playing.

Nonaira3:

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Igboid:


Are you for real? Please!

More than 90% of Itsekiri people voted to leave the Western region.
Look at the Warri (Itsekiri votes) in the referendum result attached below

Afemai represents Akoko Edo, Etsako and Owan, and as you can see, more than 97% of them voted to leave the Western region.

It would appear you had been drinking too much from the stables of Yoruba media propaganda.
https://www.dawodu.com/omoigui22.htm

Balyz:
Igbos are just a disgusting bunch of criminals

Alariiwo:


Igbos are doing better than "noone" my friend..

Even without war or insurgency, the SE still ranks low in terms of development and sustainability.
The unemployment rate ranks highest in the SE
The security is nothing to write home about.
Talking about infrastructures, it's zero


Wake up boy! There is nothing special about South East or her inhabitants

whirlwind7:


Asswipe has gone spiritual
Incredible! In other words, God hates your Igbo brethren, which translates to an open cheque for other people to hate them as well
Meehnn....Nigerians, or rather, the bulk of other non Igbos within the contraption called Nigeria, here's the question you all need to answer:

You all hate the Igbos. Even God hates the Igbos. You (and God) just can't stand their pride and arrogance. The Igbos realize this and pleads to be left alone, to forge their own nation and destiny, as they tried to do 50 years ago. But you, and the rest of Nigeria refused.

What do you then want??

You despise them, you can't stand them, yet you want them to coexist with you! What brand of malaria do you and Nigeria have that have defied every medication?

honeychild:



So oga feeling funky, don't make the mistake of thinking anybody opposes you and your arrogant ill-mannered tribesmen leaving the union. They are not just willing to allow you leave with their meal ticket.