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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:05pm On Apr 09, 2018
Nihilist is more accurate and right about this. Emenalo is not the mole, he is just been used for scapegoating

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:17pm On Apr 09, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Actually No. I know exactly what I meant. Check the dates below. The second article was actually written in 2013 about moves she'd been making before she even got appointed to the board.

She has been acting on Roman's behalf in transfer negotiations since 2010.

In negotiations, not in picking targets.

You missed the most obvious part of what you are trying to use to heap blame on Marina and absolve Emenalo:



Repeat after me.

Who handles the football needs of the club at the highest level?

Repeat again.

Is it Marina that told Emenalo that Roman has £150m to spend on wingers in 2012 but cannot afford £10m for Wanyama?

If Marina tells Emenalo that only £150m is available, Emenalo is supposed to use his football sense and assign some to where its needed, even if its just £10m or £20m. Emenalo hiding behind obfuscations since 1912.


If you did not know who made football calls back then, why not actually hear from a Chelsea coach, Ray Wilkins who told you exactly what it was with Emenalo. No be dem say, dem say. This is no2 member of coaching team telling you exactly what it was:

And Wilkins has revealed he never got on with the former Nigeria international before going on to suggest Emenalo’s role became idle with Chelsea going after the world’s best players.

“Unfortunately Michael and I didn’t see eye-to-eye,” Wilkins told BBC 5 Live.

“The most important thing at a club like Chelsea is when you’re getting players in, it’s what the coach wants. It’s not what anybody else wants
.



Did you see him blaming Marina or the tooth fairy? He knows exactly who was causing him and Ancelotti problems. Same way RDM, Benitez, Jose all fell out with Emenalo, not the tooth fairy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On Apr 09, 2018
Ibime:


Your board is all ex-footballers who can rightly make calls, while Chelsea board are all non-football people who deferred to Emenalos knowledge for years. If a decision back then is purely footballing, not financial, anyone who knows Chelsea knows its either Emenalo or Roman (usually with advice from Piet De Vieser) who makes football calls. Do not compare with financial call between Gotze and Neymar.

Now, the "transfer committee" itself is only 4 people - Roman, Marina, Emenalo and Conte. These are the only people Roman meets to discuss transfer progress, and of those, Emenalo is the only person apart from CEO with direct access to Roman,

It does not make a difference if they are ex footballers or not. Many clubs dont even have ex footballers in any role

Real Madrid Florentino Perez is the President He is a civil Engineer and a politician. No Sporting director. So all decisions are between Perez and Zidane

Man Utd Glazer businessmen, Ed Woodward accountant. Mourinho coach. No Sorting director, So all decisions of the board are taken by non footballers

Now that Emenalo is out of the quartet Its now Roman, marina and Conte, Which of them has football knowledge you are alluding to Emenalo when he was there to make him shoulder all the blame

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:26pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:

Now that Emenalo is out of the quartet Its now Roman, marina and Conte, Which of them has football knowledge you are alluding to Emenalo when he was there to make him shoulder all the blame

Head Scout is acting up into Emenalos role.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:32pm On Apr 09, 2018
Ibime:


In negotiations, not in picking targets.

You missed the most obvious part of what you are trying to use to heap blame on Marina and absolve Emenalo:




I did not miss a thing. The guy who wrote the article is Jake Cohen. He's a sports lawyer that works for a law firm has represented Chelsea on several transfer deals.

While you usually point to daily mail articles to blame Emenalo(That RDM and Wanyama yarns for example), an insider from a seat at the table is telling you point blank that Marina has been running things and buying players since 2010, to the point where she was running Vittesse from London....and all before she even joined the board.

Is it Marina that told Emenalo that Roman has £150m to spend on wingers in 2012 but cannot afford £10m for Wanyama?

Emenalo does not have access to Chelsea bank account. How will he know how much Chelsea have to spend on a player unless he was told by the person who holds the purse strings? That's if such a conversation happened sef.


And Wilkins has revealed he never got on with the former Nigeria international before going on to suggest Emenalo’s role became idle with Chelsea going after the world’s best players.

“Unfortunately Michael and I didn’t see eye-to-eye,” Wilkins told BBC 5 Live.

“The most important thing at a club like Chelsea is when you’re getting players in, it’s what the coach wants. It’s not what anybody else wants

I don't understand what this means. The only thing I can read here is that Ray Wilkins did not like Emenalo. It's too soon to speak ill of the dead, but Ray was well known to be lacking in professionalism, and would often turn up to work drunk and high. I heard Emenalo suggested that he was sacked, and Ray Wilkins also held beef with Ancelotti because he felt Ancelotti betrayed him.

So I don't know what Ray Wilkins has to do with who signs players. I also can't really gain any meaningful insight from the snippet you posted. Did he say Emenalo is the one that signs players in the full quote?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Apr 09, 2018
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:50pm On Apr 09, 2018
Ibime:
Head Scout is acting up into Emenalos role.

Meaning the Technical director role is the most redundant and can be done away with yet the club continues to function like Chelsea, Madrid Man Utd etc have been doing

Scout brings players to who? Conte or Roman and who gives approval? Conte Emenalo or Roman
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:50pm On Apr 09, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


I did not miss a thing. The guy who wrote the article is Jake Cohen. He's a sports lawyer that works for a law firm has represented Chelsea on several transfer deals.

While you usually point to daily mail articles to blame Emenalo(That RDM and Wanyama yarns for example), an insider from a seat at the table is telling you point blank that Marina has been running things and buying players since 2010, to the point where she was running Vittesse from London....and all before she even joined the board.

Nonsense . . . . the lawyer is only in negotiation to dot is and cross ts and will do that with Marina and other legal people and agents based on Emenalo and the managers recommendations. He has told you ho-ha that Emenalo makes the technical decision. No be today you go try to hide Emenalo under the technical exigencies of contract negotiation. Marina would not even step to that negotiation table if Emenalo and/or Roman have not already recommended it. This is a case of Abacha sent Sergeant Rogers to shoot Kudirat and you are busy blaming Sergeant Rogers instead of Abacha.


Nihilstjnr:

Emenalo does not have access to Chelsea bank account. How will he know how much Chelsea have to spend on a player unless he was told by the person who holds the purse strings? That's if such a conversation happened sef.

You mean a Technical Director does not know what the budget is coming to a transfer window? You might as well paint him as a single-cell organism to absolve him then. Before any transfer window, he knows the parameters he has to work under just like any Sporting Director. If he chose to spend £150m on wingers and leave Mikel and Ramires to man the midfield, that's HIS decision. His parameter was £150m, but he does not know football and thought 6 wingers will win you Prem.



Nihilstjnr:

So I don't know what Ray Wilkins has to do with who signs players. I also can't really gain any meaningful insight from the snippet you posted. Did he say Emenalo is the one that signs players in the full quote?

Ray Wilkins has told you ho-ha that Ancelotti wanted to sign his players but Emenalo was forcing his choices on him. He doesn't need to spell it out for you. He has non-disclosure agreement signed as part of his payoff. I actually listened to the interview live on Talksport. It was on a Monday night as I was driving to football round about when Emenalo resigned. Ray Wilkins said he has beef with Emenalo and immediately followed it up when asked why by saying that the manager should make the signings not other people - clearly referring to Emenalo.

Emenalo wasn't even TD in Ray Wilkins time, he was Head Scout but had the ear of Roman and had already taken over in everything but name from Frank Arnesen. I peeped this since 2010 when Emenalo recommended Ramires to Roman.

This is how you would miss rapture by burying head in sand.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cruxifizio: 4:05pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:
diggz

This is another striker not named Benzema

https://twitter.com/freeflowblog/status/981591811625021440

https://twitter.com/ACMilan_Brasil/status/981599580373602304


I check anything....Na only benzema naim I know as the useless striker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:30pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


WHen you see that these players especially those with Italian league links like Zappacosta, Morata Pamilerin and Donkeyoko wey him don dey pursue for a while you cannot exonerate and start looking for Emenalo to blame just because..
Lmaooo naah!! even Ibime cannot blame Emenalo for these wack signings
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 4:53pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:




I dey look am, You bought Barkley for 18M he has been in the hospital since then and you wan sell am for 20M? Are you going to sell the hospital with Barkley

Cahill 15M to retire or what value is he to anyone? laundry man for 15M

Hazard for 35M just to dance? Kaffy wey be professional dancer no dey collect pass 35k,Patapaa wey sing "one corner" sef no go ask for that kain money

Hazard 16.2Million to be paid in 38 installments

This man don craze finish......... cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:56pm On Apr 09, 2018
A40:
Lmaooo naah!! even Ibime cannot blame Emenalo for these wack signings

He made his point that raumdeuter should stop saying Conte spent 250m to get his players, when in reality, he had no hand in majority of the acquisitions.

It is on record that Conte asked Chelsea to change their wack transfer policy that pushed the team down. He confronted Bruce Buck on this. Only fools will think Conte has the same power that fraudiola is having, regarding transfers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:02pm On Apr 09, 2018
airmark:


He made his point that raumdeuter should stop saying Conte spent 250m to get his players, when in reality, he had no hand in majority of the acquisitions.

It is on record that Conte asked Chelsea to change their wack transfer policy that pushed the team down. He confronted Bruce Buck on this. Only fools will think Conte has the same power that fraudiola is having, regarding transfers.


Who are the transfers Conte did not have ANY hand in

List them

Then tell us for those Conte doesnt have a hand in, Who was the responsible party
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:17pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Who are the transfers Conte did not have ANY hand in

List them

Then tell us for those Conte doesnt have a hand in, Who was the responsible party


I don't have that time to start a useless back and forth on that, because like lordfalcao, you will still have one or more stupid questions to ask for every rebuttal.

Conte : "I have to learn a lot from the other coaches, the other managers, in that aspect. I have to speak more with the managers who are very, very good at persuading their clubs to spend money to buy top players."
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Apr 09, 2018
airmark:



I don't have that time to start a useless back and forth on that, because like lordfalcao, you will still have one or more stupid questions to ask for every rebuttal.

Conte : "I have to learn a lot from the other coaches, the other managers, in that aspect. I have to speak more with the managers who are very, very good at persuading their clubs to spend money to buy top players."

Still this doesnt make any sense, You made a claim they ask you to back it up you fled like the coward you are

Who are the players approved by Conte and who are the players not approved its very simple, All we the players bought are less than 8 in numbers

You dont have the time to type 8 names but you have the time to write over 100 words

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:20pm On Apr 09, 2018
Ibime:


How many minutes has Emerson played and how many points has Giroud won?

I feel Walter Mazzari spoilt Kenedys name in Contes ear, and gave him extremely bad report from the loan spell at Watford.
see excuse not to blame conte again.


Mazzari spoilt Kennedy name in conte ear


Which kind excuse be this one self?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:24pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Still this doesnt make any sense, You made a claim they ask you to back it up you fled like the coward you are

Who are the players approved by Conte and who are the players not approved its very simple, All we the players bought are less than 8 in numbers

You dont have the time to type 8 names but you have the time to write over 100 words

Why will it make sense to you, as if Pep also talked about learning from other coaches on how to convince city to buy top players. If you can't make a sensible conclusion from that Conte's statement, that's your problem. Sensible people know it sums up what ibime initially told you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:43pm On Apr 09, 2018
airmark:


Why will it make sense to you, as if Pep also talked about learning from other coaches on how to convince city to buy top players. If you can't make a sensible conclusion from that Conte's statement, that's your problem. Sensible people know it sums up what ibime initially told you.

You dont have time to type 8 names but you have the time to type 50 words

How else do you know someone is lying and taking the L as usual? WHen they say they dont have time to write 8 names but can wriggle around in 50 words without making sense

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:44pm On Apr 09, 2018
Ibime:


A small handful of those deals went on with his input most notably Donkeyoko and Zappacosta. But he is not responsible for anything close to the full £250m that your Apari keeps shouting about.
i find it difficult to believe that conte will tell the club to go and get him zappacosta as his improvement for moses.
Zappa looks to me like a 4th choice after the man done tire with the board to get any of his first three choices. Maybe, he settled for zappa just in case moses gets injured.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:01pm On Apr 09, 2018
Greatihex:
i find it difficult to believe that conte will tell the club to go and get him zappacosta as his improvement for moses.
Zappa looks to me like a 4th choice after the man done tire with the board to get any of his first three choices. Maybe, he settled for zappa just in case moses gets injured.

He may have settled for Zappacosta as 2nd choice behind Moses, yes. It's partly his fault for aiming too high for Kyle Walker, then after Oxlade rejected Chelsea, Zappa came to the fore. He could have saved all this trouble by opting for Toljan to start with. Same for Andy Robertson on the left side instead of Sandro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cruxifizio: 7:10pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Still this doesnt make any sense, You made a claim they ask you to back it up you fled like the coward you are

Who are the players approved by Conte and who are the players not approved its very simple, All we the players bought are less than 8 in numbers

You dont have the time to type 8 names but you have the time to write over 100 words


It is only times like this that you will apply all the ishan in ur body to be tackling someone....when I ask you to explain how Pep threw away a 2goal lead against manU or shamefully lost to liverpool or have refused to graduate from quarter finals since he joined a team without Messi and one not as experienced as bayern in ucl now......you will remember your amala turning skills ..... mscheeeew cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:30pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Still this doesnt make any sense, You made a claim they ask you to back it up you fled like the coward you are

Who are the players approved by Conte and who are the players not approved its very simple, All we the players bought are less than 8 in numbers

You dont have the time to type 8 names but you have the time to write over 100 words
when i said he is not intelligent e go be like insult but not. You say things but cant back it up, what do we call you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:30pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Still this doesnt make any sense, You made a claim they ask you to back it up you fled like the coward you are

Who are the players approved by Conte and who are the players not approved its very simple, All we the players bought are less than 8 in numbers

You dont have the time to type 8 names but you have the time to write over 100 words
when i said he is not intelligent e go be like insult but not. You say things but cant back it up, what do we call you?.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:05pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


You dont have time to type 8 names but you have the time to type 50 words

How else do you know someone is lying and taking the L as usual? WHen they say they dont have time to write 8 names but can wriggle around in 50 words without making sense

I told you that i had no time for your useless back and forth today. Stop twisting my comment.

Ibime mentioned the two players that Conte had input in their transfers, you had nothing to say to it. Yet you wanted me to waste my time answering impending stupid questions and doing unneccessary arguments. Apari, not today. Conte's statement has put it to bed.

''After Wednesday night’s Carabao Cup semi-final defeat at Arsenal, the Italian launched an astonishing attack on senior board members, claiming they were responsible for ‘every single player’ signed since the summer''.


lordfalcao:
when i said he is not intelligent e go be like insult but not. You say things but cant back it up, what do we call you?.

cheesy cheesy cheesy
See this village man, that don't know how to use google to get updates on his club. You are the least intelligent soccer fan on this forum. I thought you had a vision impairment before when you were blaming luiz for a goal caused by rudiger in rome. Subsequent encounters show that it's somehow mental.

I back things up but you and your mentor won't stop asking stupid questions, in the face of concrete facts. Conte said he needed to learn how to convince his team on buying top players. What back up do you want? You that i supplied audio evidence but still not convinced, will be the one to waste my time on? Mba.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:16pm On Apr 09, 2018
lordfalcao:
when i said he is not intelligent e go be like insult but not. You say things but cant back it up, what do we call you?.

You sef dey see am. Its very easy to spot dullards

He has been claiming that Morata was not Contes idea yet the same Morata told a newspaper that Conte called him in the Spring of 2017 and convinced him to join. What will Mr Ikputu Onu say? Nothing

They said Emenalo was jointly responsible for Bakayoko, The same Bakayoko told a newspaper that Conte chased him when he was at Juventus when he didnt know Emenalo. What will Oga I-K-P say? Nothing

Giroud and Barley were signed when Emenalo had left

Palmiero and Zappacosta have Italian league roots

So who are the players not endorsed by Conte that made him fail this season. I am sure someone will later come here to tell us that someone sent a Text to Diego Costa from Conte's phone or someone bought Bakayoko, and sold Matic without Contes knowledge
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:16pm On Apr 09, 2018
Cruxifizio:



It is only times like this that you will apply all the ishan in ur body to be tackling someone....when I ask you to explain how Pep threw away a 2goal lead against manU or shamefully lost to liverpool or have refused to graduate from quarter finals since he joined a team without Messi and one not as experienced as bayern in ucl now......you will remember your amala turning skills ..... mscheeeew cheesy



Shouldnt you be more concerned that your team wont make the CL next season. Pep is doing very fine, Winning the league and playing at least the CL quarters this season Abeg what has Cuntay achieved this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:17pm On Apr 09, 2018
airmark:


I told you that i had no time for your useless back and forth today. Stop twisting my comment.

Ibime mentioned the two players that Conte had input in their transfers, you had nothing to say to it. Yet you wanted me to waste my time answering impending stupid questions and doing unneccessary arguments. Apari, not today. Conte's statement has put it to bed.

''After Wednesday night’s Carabao Cup semi-final defeat at Arsenal, the Italian launched an astonishing attack on senior board members, claiming they were responsible for ‘every single player’ signed since the summer''.

Ibime shey na tre say na the board go sign everyone of the players since summer

Morata Bakayoko Palmieri Barkley Zapacosta Drinkwater Cabalero Rudiger and Conte had no input
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:29pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


Ibime shey na tre say na the board go sign everyone of the players since summer

Morata Bakayoko Palmieri Barkley Zapacosta Drinkwater Cabalero Rudiger and Conte had no input

You will need to ask Conte himself that stupid question. Apari. cheesy

Conte: ‘I have great ambition but I don’t have money to spend for Chelsea,’ he added.

Conte : "I have to learn a lot from the other coaches, the other managers, in that aspect. I have to speak more with the managers who are very, very good at persuading their clubs to spend money to buy top players."

Conte: ‘Then, in the future, if there is the possibility, you have to try to buy only two or three players – not eight players.

Conte: “Manchester City had the possibility to spend a lot of money, when you link these two situations – a good manager and much money to spend in the transfer market – and have the same ambition, this is the final result,”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 8:49pm On Apr 09, 2018
In another news, after Tuesday match, P3P would have packed more Ls than Cool J embarassed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:10pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


You sef dey see am. Its very easy to spot dullards

He has been claiming that Morata was not Contes idea yet the same Morata told a newspaper that Conte called him in the Spring of 2017 and convinced him to join. What will Mr Ikputu Onu say? Nothing

They said Emenalo was jointly responsible for Bakayoko, The same Bakayoko told a newspaper that Conte chased him when he was at Juventus when he didnt know Emenalo. What will Oga I-K-P say? Nothing

Giroud and Barley were signed when Emenalo had left

Palmiero and Zappacosta have Italian league roots

So who are the players not endorsed by Conte that made him fail this season. I am sure someone will later come here to tell us that someone sent a Text to Diego Costa from Conte's phone or someone bought Bakayoko, and sold Matic without Contes knowledge
Egbon, you don start now. You don leave the discourse dey yarn anyhow.
You dey Fvck up most times o undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:14pm On Apr 09, 2018
Skimpledawg:

Egbon, you don start now. You don leave the discourse dey yarn anyhow.
You dey Fvck up most times o undecided


How come you didnt complain when he said it?

airmark:
Yet you wanted me to waste my time answering impending stupid questions and doing unneccessary arguments. Apari, not today. Conte's statement has put it to bed.

Was the bold that he posted part of the discourse? How come you dont have a problem with that but you have a problem with me calling him Ikputu Onu

Thats the problem with you so called neutrals, I don't insult people first, they will insult me its when I respond that I become the bad person

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 9:20pm On Apr 09, 2018
raumdeuter:


How come you didnt complain when he said it?



Was the bold that he posted part of the discourse? How come you dont have a problem with that but you have a problem with me calling him Ikputu Onu
My bad, if I had seen that Egbon, I woulda called him out for it.

Sincerely, we enjoy you both vast knowledge of the soccer game.

Some of us come here to learn new things about football, not to see grown up men call themselves names. Not just cool.

Let it go ejoo

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