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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:14am On Apr 10, 2018
Fegor Ogude posing with a gun

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:13am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


That's Suarez opinion but facts on ground proved that he was already a super star before he met Brender Rodgers. Fact.

The fact is that you said Brendan Rodgers did not help Suarez, which is not true. Brendan Rodgers helped Suarez in a big way.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:23am On Apr 10, 2018
Martz101:


is normal for players to sound humble, even ronaldo will say same about zidane

It is not about humility. Brendan Rodgers style and philosophy helped propel Suarez. He spoke Spanish and was able to communicate with Suarez about tactics fluently. Played a style similar to the Spanish way that suited Suarez.

Suarez likes the ball coming to his feet and Rodgers did that for Suarez. Rodgers helped Suarez big time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 6:58am On Apr 10, 2018
tbaba1234:
Which club has the best scouting team in Europe?
monaco maybe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:05am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

He made it because of his Copa America performances. Tell us how the "best striker in the world" performed in his next season and a half?? Oh and why you're at it, tell us the next time he made the top 10 after 2011

Correct. He made it before he met Brender Rodgers. GBAM
Thank you very much for the confirmation. EOD grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:06am On Apr 10, 2018
EmmGee:

monaco maybe

Chelsea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:11am On Apr 10, 2018
tbaba1234:
Which club has the best scouting team in Europe?

Borrusia Dortmund should be number 1. Nobody does it better than them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:15am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

And to UEFA too. They have their criteria at rating leagues on THEIR Continent.

Which is the highest Football organization?

UEFA or FIFA? grin

UEFA gave it to Messi based on their own criteria while FIFA gave it to Suarez. Fact grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:46am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


Correct. He made it before he met Brender Rodgers. GBAM
Thank you very much for the confirmation. EOD grin
Stop trolling. undecided undecided. When next did Suarez make top 10 for ballon d orr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:48am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

Stop trolling. undecided undecided. When next did Suarez make top 10 for ballon d orr

Which trolling?

Did it change the fact that he was already a super star before he met Brender Rodgers? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:49am On Apr 10, 2018
tbaba1234:
Which club has the best scouting team in Europe?
Monaco - bvb - atleti - Southampton. Shakhtar is a good shout as well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:49am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


Does it change the fact that he was the 6th best player in the world and the highest goalscorer in the world (based on FIFA rating) before he met Brender Rodgers? Capital NO

Suarez Made name at Ajax,I will agree with you on this one,Suarez had the world on his feet at ajax,it doesn't need to be the premier league or Spanish league,Suarez was world class at Ajax before he signed for Liverpool,Liverpool didn't made Suarez,I think i am with you on this argument
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:50am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


Which is the highest Football organization?

UEFA or FIFA? grin

UEFA gave it to Messi based on their own criteria while FIFA gave it to Suarez. Fact grin
So Tresor was the best striker in the world too?? That guy from Latvia as well??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:53am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


Which trolling?

Did it change the fact that he was already a super star before he met Brender Rodgers? grin
Yeah he was a superstar at Eredivise just like Hunterlaar, Vincent Janssen, Dirk Kuyt, Bas Dost were before he went to the epl and didn't score more than 11 till Rodgers came in.
He was a superstar that's why only Liverpool were really in for him. Arsenal only enquired.
Suarez wasn't bigger than the likes of Ibra and Hunterlaar who moved straight to euro giants from Ajax. Fact!!.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:03am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

So Tresor was the best striker in the world too?? That guy from Latvia as well??

Did FIFA acknowledged it? Answer yes or no
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:06am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

We can go back to ronaldo numbers with Madrid to see if he was being humble.
We do the same with Suarez and you'll see the difference in the epl. 11 to 23 to 33.

You don't get it, Ronaldo will also tell you zidane made him who he is
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:07am On Apr 10, 2018
forgiveness:


Did FIFA acknowledged it? Answer yes or no
No IFFHS did. Not fifa. Show me where it says "Fifa best forward award"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:09am On Apr 10, 2018
Martz101:


You don't get it, Ronaldo will also tell you zidane made him who he is
I'm saying yes I agree with it but if you look back at the previous seasons you'll see how deadly Cr7 has been for madrid. Cr7 has won top goal scorer awards in LA liga before Zidane. Suarez not only never won the top goal scorer award in epl, but he never scored more than 11 before Rodgers. He scored 11 in 33 before Rodgers and 23 in 33 and 31 in 33 after him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:14am On Apr 10, 2018
goldfish80:

Borrusia Dortmund should be number 1. Nobody does it better than them
Monaco might be ahead of them slightly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:16am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

Monaco - bvb - atleti - Southampton. Shakhtar is a good shout as well

Southampton have a good youth system, I dont know if that's equal good scouting
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:16am On Apr 10, 2018
andrew444:


Suarez Made name at Ajax,I will agree with you on this one,Suarez had the world on his feet at ajax,it doesn't need to be the premier league or Spanish league,Suarez was world class at Ajax before he signed for Liverpool,Liverpool didn't made Suarez,I think i am with you on this argument

I think so too

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:29am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

I'm saying yes I agree with it but if you look back at the previous seasons you'll see how deadly Cr7 has been for madrid. Cr7 has won top goal scorer awards in LA liga before Zidane. Suarez not only never won the top goal scorer award in epl, but he never scored more than 11 before Rodgers. He scored 11 in 33 before Rodgers and 23 in 33 and 31 in 33 after him.

Ok with your argument is ok to say morinho made ronaldo a top class player, because ronaldo never got to the 40 goal Mark in Man U. the best he had was 31 and others were 17 and 18.

but under morinho he increase that tally consistently 40 and 46 goals. we all know Ferguson made Ronaldo, it's not cool to give Brendan glory for Suarez development, he was at his peak at Liverpool and Brendan happen to be the coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 8:38am On Apr 10, 2018
I wonder how we left discussing Super Eagles players to debating Suarez, Ronaldo and other players who are practically inconsequential to our thread or our cause. Enough already! Have we sorted out our playmaker for the world cup? Instead of us to be busy praying every morning for our players not to get injured, the ones injured to have wuick recovery, we busy debating.... in case you arent paying attention, no dey count april as month O? The world cup is 1 month away. Na when we play our first match una eye go clear.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:02am On Apr 10, 2018
Martz101:


Ok with your argument is ok to say morinho made ronaldo a top class player, because ronaldo never got to the 40 goal Mark in Man U. the best he had was 31 and others were 17 and 18.

but under morinho he increase that tally consistently 40 and 46 goals. we all know Ferguson made Ronaldo, it's not cool to give Brendan glory for Suarez development, he was at his peak at Liverpool and Brendan happen to be the coach
CR7 was already scoring in the epl which is a top league. Epl to LA liga is much different form Eredivise to Epl.
Suarez became a better goal scorer thanks to Rodgers. If Daglish was still around, he wouldn't have scored anywhere close to 33 goals. Rodgers had a clear idea on how to use him and get the best out of him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:06am On Apr 10, 2018
Martz101:


Monaco might be ahead of them slightly

How? Monaco got it right with their scouting just 2 years ago, that was it. Dortmund have stayed competitive over the past 12 years purely by their smart scouting team?

Place Dortmund graduates side by side with Monaco's,you will see Monaco haven't even started. Micheal Zorc and Sven Millisant are the best in the business. You can also add Monchi the former Sevilla DF.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:14am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

Yeah he was a superstar at Eredivise just like Hunterlaar, Vincent Janssen, Dirk Kuyt, Bas Dost were before he went to the epl and didn't score more than 11 till Rodgers came in.
He was a superstar that's why only Liverpool were really in for him. Arsenal only enquired.
Suarez wasn't bigger than the likes of Ibra and Hunterlaar who moved straight to euro giants from Ajax. Fact!!.

This argument is still on? Suarez was nothing more than a a local champion at Ajax. Same can be said of Hassan Mido, Dirk Kuyt, Salomon Kalou, Emmanuelson, Royston Drente, Skeltenberg, Jefferson Farfan, DUSZAK (the Hungarian guy), Babel etc.
Suarez would have been inconsequential like Kalou/Kuyt in the grand scheme of things if Liverpool didn't take him to another level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:24am On Apr 10, 2018
goldfish80:


How? Monaco got it right with their scouting just 2 years ago, that was it. Dortmund have stayed competitive over the past 12 years purely by their smart scouting team?

Place Dortmund graduates side by side with Monaco's,you will see Monaco haven't even started. Micheal Zorc and Sven Millisant are the best in the business. You can also add Monchi the former Sevilla DF.

scouting is different from having good academy graduate, Dortmund are good with scouting too, Monaco didn't start 2years ago with the likes of yaya toure, saviola, adebayor and Evans.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:28am On Apr 10, 2018
edi287:

CR7 was already scoring in the epl which is a top league. Epl to LA liga is much different form Eredivise to Epl.
Suarez became a better goal scorer thanks to Rodgers. If Daglish was still around, he wouldn't have scored anywhere close to 33 goals. Rodgers had a clear idea on how to use him and get the best out of him.

Just like ronaldo will not score 40 goals a season under Ferguson, so morinho had a clear idea on how to use him better

Bros Suarez peaking in Liverpool little to do with Rodgers, just like ronaldo peak in Madrid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:41am On Apr 10, 2018
tbaba1234:
Which club has the best scouting team in Europe?

Chelsea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:42am On Apr 10, 2018
maidaboi:
Who is your worst ever player to play for super eagles
mine is agbim

Reuben
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:43am On Apr 10, 2018
elyte89:


Not agbim...myne was Ayodele makinwa,Ahmed musa(still topping d chart) grin,ogbonaya KANU,peter utaka, smiley smiley

All these player have goals for super eagles not sure of ogbonaya kanu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:47am On Apr 10, 2018
Martz101:


scouting is different from having good academy graduate, Dortmund are good with scouting too, Monaco didn't start 2years ago with the likes of yaya toure, saviola, adebayor and Evans.

The question was "which club has the best scouting network". When it comes to that, nobody can take it away from Dortmund. They scout players all over Europe, South America, Africa, Us of A and even Asia. Check the demographic of their players down the years.
I strongly believe they are the best.

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