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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 6:14pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
What happened to konza technology city? After all these years... only one building in construction 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 6:28pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
rvp2017: There’s currently 9 scrapers in Eko Atlantic. Some finished, some in construction. And more are coming. Centenary city started 2014/2015... so no comparison to eko Atlantic. U forget the three other deep seaports coming up across the country... Badagry deep seaport, Bakassi deep sea port, and Ibaka deep seaport. I don’t know why I’m comparing Nigeria to Kenya. Just look at Kenya’s gdp per capita. Yes, Kenya has made some nice progress (kenya is ahead of Nigeria in some affairs)and I wish more for this country. But ultimately Nigeria’s too big to compare at least in the long run. Currently we’re facing issues, but you must realize once Nigeria gets its governance issues settled... this comparison would have no tangible base |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:28pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
That is exactly like Eko City - albeit by gov - which is why I insist on stuff that have happened - not grandiose lego cities by gov bureaucrats. nwoke37: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:30pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
85 percent off projects in nigeria have no completion, fooling ourselves suffering and smiling that is how we nigerians are. even in the year 2100 EKO city will not be completed. We Nigerians are now sending are children to other african countries to do prostitution and them fooling are selves thats where the best blacks. See giant giant giant Lagos Two Nigerian cities has been named among the world’s worst cities to live in 2018. Mercer’s 20th annual Quality of Living survey compared 231 major metropolises, examining factors such as crime, healthcare, education, public services, recreation, housing and personal freedom. According to this years ranking, Bangui, Central African Republic (230) been the lowest ranking African city for quality of living is the worst city to live in Africa. followed by Khartoum, sudan (227), N’Djamena Chad (226), Brazzaville Congo (224) and Kinshasa Democratic Republic of the Congo (223). Persistent political instability, poverty, extreme climates and lack of appropriate infrastructure investments means the cities above have the lowest quality of living worldwide. Two Nigeria cities Abuja (213) and Lagos (212) Also made it into the top 20 worst cities to live in Africa. Abuja, Nigeria’s Federal Capital was ranked 213 out of 231 countries making it the 13th worst city to live in Africa, while Lagos was ranked 212, making it the 14th worst city to live in Africa.. Below are The top 15 worst cities to live in Africa 2018. From least worst (15) to worst (1) 15. Harare, Zimbabwe 14. Lagos, Nigeria 13. Abuja, Nigeria 12. Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso 11. Antananarivo, Madagascar 10. Tripoli, Libya 9. Niamey, Niger 8. Bamako, Mali 7. Nouakchott, Mauritania 6. Conakry, Guinea Republic 5. Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo 4. Brazzaville, Congo 3. N’Djamena Chad 2. Khartoum Sudan 1. Bangui Central African Republic https://listwand.com/2018/03/two-nigerian-cities-named-among-the-worst-cities-to-live-in-africa-2018/ 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:33pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
My friend - you're not only BIG - but you also have oil. You control nearly 3% of GLOBAL WORLD OIL. You know what that means. That mean you should be far ahead of anyone in Africa. It really shamefully that Kenya that is mostly a desert (1/3 of it is arable) and has nearly zero minerals can not only be compared with you but also beat Nigeria in most things..where quality not just scale or quantity is concerned. Right now if the debate what to shift to what is actually on the ground - not planned [ those plans depend on oil price ] - then it obviously that kenya punches way above it's weight. And yet again we have no oil, no diamond, no gold, no mineral to talk about - with 2/3 of a country semi-arid- just pure hard work and ingenuity. There is a lot kenya can teach Nigeria.Nigeria can probably teach kenya what - maybe cement (dangote is impressive), banking (merging of banks?) and nollywood - and maybe football- that is it. nwoke37: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:40pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Precisely. It just about false hope of the future planned visions - which are actually mirages. Nigeria and DRC CONGO are siblings. Kinshasa and Lagos are twin brothers. The potential is huge. The amount of minerals they've got is staggering. But you got mega cities of slums. And the same hopelessness year in year out.... Around 2010- 2015 - I thought Nigeria had turned the corner - alas! only to discover it was the oil prices that had skyrocketed and now everything is back to normal - GDP growth of 1% or -1%. sufferNsmiling: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:53pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
rvp2017:This is a small state in Nigeria,if I mention lagos,you fall into confusion ibom deep seaport International stadium akwa ibom specialist hospital(one of the best in Africa,if not the best) syringe manufacturing company and largest in Africa Akwa ibom e library |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:00pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Are all these under construction or completed or planned. Let start from there. And please omit the e-library one . Quick google search - they are planned. Okay please I can bore you to death with kenyan planned projects - at even more advanced stage - but let keep this - to things that actually exists. samsobo24: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 7:07pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Manage these for now CITIES eko atlantic city Lekki smart city project imperial international business city lekki Grace field phoenix lekki Diamond island lekki Lagos island regeneration You thought I was joking when I said that lekki alone has more hyper projects than the whole of your country World class stadiums What of the world class Ikeja bus terminal plus more under construction What of the opening of inner roads in local communities Have you seen Lagos state Emergency unit and security infrastructure. Lekki free trade Zone (largest in west Afrrica) Badagry deep sea port Lekki international Airport 4th Mainland Bridge Lagos Light rail Project Lagos Water transport with marine police Construction of the Largest single refinery in Africa and not Only Africa. Independent power project (3,000mw) Plans and innovative projects to further make Lagos the smartest city in Africa: Distribution of E-waste bin and compactors Replacement of Danfo buses with World class air condition buses. Introducing more free WIFI services in BRT buses and parks. Decoration of more bridges and bus stops Introduction of more bus terminals Mechanised sweeping of Major roads Emergency Helipad service World class smart security vehicles Swift Emergency service and disaster management. Ensuring of water metering in Lagos More: World class Oshodi transport interchange Creating more BRT lanes and decongestion of Lagos traffic More Health care service delivery with primary health centres scattered across the local governments of the state.Try to checkout for world class equipments of General hospitals in Lagos Have you seen the Lagos state DNA and forensic laboratory. There many projects I am even oblivious about that I know some would know. We won't stop Educating you |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:23pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Nice dream - Kenya has tonnes of those already completed or under construction- but this one piqued my interest -Ensuring of water metering in Lagos so what is happening now. You see Lagos can compete with Kinshasasa in DRC Congo..both are 10M plus mega slums..but Nairobi is on another level...and can start dreaming of comparing to Joburg. Give Nairobi 10yrs - and Joburg will start struggling to compete. Nairaland has thread on Nairobi pictures that should make that self-evident https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east/200 samsobo24: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 8:02pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
samsobo24: You seems to be very young in this world, and you think the world revolves around Lagos... Currently Nairobi has more towers above 20floor than Lagos and Eco combined.. Nairobi at 44 while eco and lagos at 36.. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/#/topics/1775594?page=20 You keep talking about proposed cities and project in Naija as if they are final products. My friend if every African country shows you thesame you will be shoked. But we are mature enough to know not all will see the light of the day, and patient enough to wait for the execution. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 8:06pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
nwoke37: Even S.A Interesting currently life expectancy in Kenya is at 67years.. The day Nigeria will tap well it tax revenue is when you will see real change. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 9:25pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Jay254:. Tall structure in just one part makes the whole of your capital developed, iam laughing at your so called Nairobi. We don't just build any how, that's why Lagos has the highest no of planned communities in Africa See this one talking about height when eko Atlantic will have 1,200 high rise buildings,more than the whole of your country. Pls show me any of your project in the whole of East Africa that is as capital intensive as this Lekki Deep sea port Imperial international business city Lekki smart city Eko Atlantic city etc Let me stop here so that Lagos won't create tension here. This is another high rise project going on in Lagos island 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:01pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
You really got jokes. Quick search on the first -Lekki deep sea port - $1.5 billion committed. Are you kidding us? I mean we are talking 25B USD for LAPPSET in Kenya with LAMU port? We are talking 10B USD for Kenya part of SGR - with already nearly 5B USD committed and spent. We are talking about NorthLands City in Nairobi - with 50B USD set to be spent. And we have tonnes more of those planned or under construction..including Tatu City/Konza City within Nairobi..and thousands others. Eko City has 1 or 2 towers - more than 10 yrs later. samsobo24: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:08pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
What joke is this - Lekki deep sea port - that you're parroting is mere 500M usd project - I guess when whole budget for the giant is mere 28B USD that is a lot of money. PLEASE SHOW US MEGA PROJECT OF SAY 200B USD - that would really shows how ambitious Nigeria can be? I mean Kenya don't even shout about 500m usd project. That is pocket change.Mombasa port expansion - adding 3 berths - more than 1B dollars has already been spent. http://businessandmaritimewestafrica.com/maritime-development/npa-pays-23m-equity-funding-in-lekki-deep-seaport-project Nigeria has to wake up - pay and collect taxes. I mean the 28B is mostly from oil taxes - and has to be shared by 36 states!! The more I probe - the more I am shocked. Please take Bill Gates advice seriously - pay taxes - and we may kick polio out - let's not even worry about other stuff for now - LEKKI deep sea port of 1.5BB - what hell is that? 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 10:20pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
Jay254: Not proposed cities, they’re currently under construction as we speak... with investors ploughing solid cash into it |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 10:58pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
rvp2017:What do you gain from insincerity, the deep sea port is around 1.3 to 1.6 bln |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:59pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
What is that in 2018? Like seriously .Nigeria has to wake up - pay and collect taxes. I mean the 28B is mostly from oil taxes - and has to be shared by 36 states!! The more I probe - the more I am shocked. Please take Bill Gates advice seriously - pay taxes - and we may kick polio out - let's not even worry about other stuff for now - LEKKI deep sea port of 1.5BB grin grin grin - what hell is that? If you GDP is 400-500B - what is 1B dollars - I mean kenya has about 75-80B USD GDP - budget now nearly 30B per annum - and nobody talks about 1B usd! That is pocket change. Kenyatta family alone are planning 50B USD city on their private land. samsobo24: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 11:07pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
rvp2017: States have their own budgets... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 11:09pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
rvp2017:no its not only 50B but 50 trln. Another project that will shock many African countries is the Lekki free trade zone This will house one of the largest refinery's in the world, largest fertilizer plant in Africa. All in the city of lekki Aliko Dangote will soon buy the whole of your country |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:13am On Apr 12, 2018 |
rvp2017:Its part of their millenium development goals. 1000years! One sky scraper every ten years I don't know whether and how the investors plan to do this from their graves afew centuries into the future 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 4:16am On Apr 12, 2018 |
If you look closely that one skyscraper is actually 2 skyscrapers with a pool right next to them. The plan is to build 3 more there.the name of the project is eko pearl. In the background there’s 3 residential buildings currently standing and yet to be finished in the eko energy estate. This isn’t in the picture but the left of eko pearl is another tower called afren tower fully built... it was the first tower in eko Atlantic This also isn’t in the picture but just to the bottom of the eko pearl project is the azuri peninsula project in the marina district. Currently 3 towers are up and under construction 26 floors each With the downturn of the economy in 2015/2016/2017 projects that were expected to be done have been stalled. But since the economy picked up since the later half of last yr we should expect more projects to come aboard and start construction But as u can see the infrastructure is well laid and is still expanding with quality roads, street lighting, underground fiber optic network, 24/7 power, as well as piped water, and top notch underground sewage and drainage network.(Notice how everything will be underground;we won’t have to see ugly power masts with lines/cables above ground. )The typical Nigeria we know of today won’t be present in this city(and other cities under construction). They haven’t finished the reclaiming of land. So expect more land. I don’t even think the land is halfway to what will be there. The water canal is still being worked on and expect water in that circle in the marina district Keep in mind that this is a private development. The federal government or Lagos government barely has a say or hand in this. Whatever happens is at the whim of private investors |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzansian(f): 7:10am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Jay254: He is just being a typical Nigerian , talking about something he knows nothing about. SA life expectancy is 64 years. http://www.cabsa.org.za/South-African-Life-Expectancy-Rise-1072017 Nwoke37 educate yourself. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzansian(f): 7:14am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Jay254: Ouch!!! 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 7:20am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Mzansian: Here’s a screenshot. Tell me if ur unable to open it... [img]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1scLMhJePBYU8IhGBuTlShk-BZOKfimqj[/img] |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:26am On Apr 12, 2018 |
We are talking dollars..not NAIRA. First you're what - 30yrs behid kenya - in freely floating NAIRA - and buying dollars or forex in Nigeria is such a hassle - with black market and all that. In fact if I use the real exchange rate as opposed to official - then you guys will be worse off. What is LAGOS budget? If federal budget is 28B USD against Kenya 29B USD - trust me if I tell you Lagos budget is probably what? 3B USD - that is not enough to pay teachers salaries I bet. Dangote has done well but he is nothing in kenya - he has business in Kenya. Of course it's impressive what he has done - and that probably the only shinning light in Nigeria. samsobo24: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 7:28am On Apr 12, 2018 |
rvp2017: Nothing in Kenya... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5XJz71-55o He has plans to establish a cement factory in Kenya I believe... but complained about the corruption Corruption is killing Africa.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzansian(f): 7:28am On Apr 12, 2018 |
nwoke37: I just gave you 2017 stats from SA and you are giving me stats from when ? . Update your knowledge, SA is not a stagnant country. We learn from our yesterday and plan for our tomorrow. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:29am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Nairobi skyscrappers under development or those approved - are straggering. Don't even think Eko City or Lagos has any chance of getting to Nairobi. If already Nairobi has more skyscrappers - wait for another 5yrs - when we will have more than double that. Nairobi is destined to challenge Joburg and Cairo..for big city. Not mega slum metropolis like Lagos or Kinshasa. Nairobi is building 70 floor 300m plus skyscraper that will be Africa tallest building by FAR. And that is not all... nwoke37: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:32am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Listen to the video before you post. He announced a plan to start a cement factory but ran away after Kenya refused to grant him concessions. Kenya cement industry is very competitive. He is still mulling how to enter....there is nothing Dangote owns in kenya. nwoke37: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 7:34am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Mzansian: I based all my stats on 2015... the one that appeared first on google... but yea huge HIV issue in South Africa same as Botswana. Hopefully they’re tackled especially for a small country like Botswana with a small workforce. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzansian(f): 7:40am On Apr 12, 2018 |
nwoke37: Dude , stop rambling and accept the correction. Life expectancy in SA is 64 years . My God!! 2 Likes |
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