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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by onome25(m): 8:19am On Apr 12, 2018 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:20am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Truidstar: You said Sweden, right!? We are talking about better leagues not Swedish league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:20am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Chrismario:Mikel is great at holding the ball up, but he doesn't put the eye of the needle pass regularly. Watch Musa vs Arsenal and see how often he was getting in behind. It's just his poor football IQ that kills him when he's in that position. Anyhow you're right. He's good as a sub. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:27am On Apr 12, 2018 |
komekn:He thought you are canvassing for Tomori Fikayo but not knowing that you already said Fikayo not ripe for Eagles despite his performance. I remember asking you about Fikayo,Onomah and Adarabioyo and you said Fikayo and Adarabioyo are not ripe for Eagles but Onomah ready to go This should not bring arguments,one of those things on the thread when one came in in the middle of discourse. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:32am On Apr 12, 2018 |
komekn: Your quote to tbaba comment "still not good enough for SE" triggered my reply. It looks as if you are calling for his inclusion(in sarcastic tone) but I may be wrong. Sorry for misinterpretation 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:39am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Truidstar: Oga dont be deceived, Croatia have very quality players to deliver such crosses 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:54am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Can Alex Iwobi shake Super Eagles out of John Obi Mikel-dependency? Solace Chukwu Correspondent When the realization hit, ahead of Nigeria's two friendlies against Poland and Serbia last month, that leader, playmaker and talisman John Obi Mikel would be absent, a challenge immediately presented itself to Gernot Rohr. It is no coincidence that, since the German took over the reins of the national team, he has recorded a win in only one of the four games for which his captain has been absent. The pattern of all four games is easily recognizable: disjointed attacking play; a lack of tempo, rhythm or indeed, direction. The remit, then, was clear enough: Rohr's biggest challenge, heading into the World Cup, was to divine a way to play without Mikel. However, if what was presented in Wroclaw and Barnet was an indication of the breadth of his aptitude, then there is much to worry about in the summer. It was not so much the predictable dysfunction, but that, right in his selection, there were present the very tools to solve the problem definitively. It brought to the fore a profound paradox, one which centres on Arsenal midfielder Alex Iwobi. That paradox is this: for a player whose national team displays seem to dwarf his club performances, the 21-year-old appears to have more trust from Arsene Wenger than he does from Rohr. With the Gunners' energies and best resources now focused on a Europa League run, Wenger had no qualms handing Iwobi the creative reins at the weekend. It was a faith that was roundly repaid, as he ran the game: laying on two assists and involved in a characteristic Arsenal move for the first goal; pivotal, stealthy in his movements and taking up splendid positions to transition the ball into the final third. It was no fluke either, simply the harnessing of the full width of a well-known skill set – quick feet in tight spaces, and the ability to think quickly, all the while using the ball economically. This leads then to the inevitable question: why was Iwobi wasted on the flank in both friendlies last month? Alex Iwobi Instead, Rohr changed the system altogether, first playing a flat 4-4-2 with Kelechi Iheanacho upfront alongside Odion Ighalo, and then a 4-3-3 with Wilfred Ndidi shuttling forward. Iwobi would often have to receive the ball wide with his back to goal, and while his strength and calmness under pressure meant he often did well laying it off, it seemed a waste to rip up the team's entire shape when a simple plug-and-play would have sufficed. It is not simply that, having been at Arsenal from the age of eight, Iwobi naturally has more credit with Wenger. There is that element of course, a legacy of the Frenchman's well-known, almost indulgent, faith in young players. However, when Rohr did trust Iwobi centrally, it led to a rather interesting result. One has only to cast the mind back to that storming comeback against Argentina last November. Played as a nominal striker, Iwobi produced his best performance for the Super Eagles, scoring two brilliantly taken goals, both finishes in tight areas inside the penalty box. That, then, is all the evidence needed of his ability to function at a high level centrally. With Arsenal going all in in the Europa League, there will certainly be many more opportunities for him to shine. While, for some coaches, the concern in a World Cup year is for their star players to not suffer burnout at the Mundial, for others it is rather the opposite—this significantly alleviates the concern around Iwobi turning up rusty or undercooked. Rohr may have missed a trick in March, but if he can find it in his inherently cautious nature to trust Iwobi at the heart of the team, it would go some way toward weaning the Super Eagles of its Mikel-dependency. --goal 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:56am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Martz101: I didn't ask for 3,na anoda moniker ask d question,besides counting 4 assist as an offensive player who plays actively most times for us b4 shows aw poor he's ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:07am On Apr 12, 2018 |
goldfish80: If this is true, then I think we should just lower our expectations from this SE team. But if not, then a big shame to the news outlet |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:12am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Truidstar: Lol wetin Happen to Cyril Dessers? And who told you Mandzukic doesnt get the same service at the national team? He played from the Flank against madrid...Mind you in croatia he has 30 goals in 80 appearance which is not bad. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:18am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Like I said, it's an individual thing, the man is desperate to leave so anything thrown at him, he grabs, he's looking for money badly. Blame it on his low self esteem or greed? Or maybe he's just too desperto start earning euros. We have had players from the league that went straight into first team football without trials, some weren't even HGS in the league. Okpotu is just a desperate man, nothing else. bengine: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:23am On Apr 12, 2018 |
tbaba1234: In addition, the importance of a good target man with deadly instincts and good arial prowess (which we currently lack) It's a pity. A nation with a population of 180million. The best we can boast of is ighalo. Haaa!! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:27am On Apr 12, 2018 |
elyte89: The 4 assist is not the only assist he got, he just name 4 because they ask for 3 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:27am On Apr 12, 2018 |
This we lack in Ighalo or any other forwards for now. BTW, when last did any of our defenders score a goal from a corner kick or any other setpiece? darkelf: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:27am On Apr 12, 2018 |
forgiveness: Sorry ooo. Egbon. Please, how many assists does Simon Moses have this season. No wait.....his whole career and please compare to say...mane or oxlade-chamberlain I'm not sure myself to. I just need to understand something |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:29am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Joebie: we keep on looking for Aluko and co when we have a gem, if this dude can be trusted by Wenger why can't Rohr do same. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:30am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Danielnino00: Valid point. We don't have an Agali type striker in our team |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:33am On Apr 12, 2018 |
somehow: sometimes is the club policy, Wenger wanted Ibrahimovic for trial sometime ago |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:33am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Na wa African athletes dey sky for Australia.. Good thing Naija no fall our hand this time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:35am On Apr 12, 2018 |
To that guy who asked who will be the headers, please have u seen Sadiq Umar play? He is a wizard in the air. I am no fan of Ighalo, in fact I want him out of that team ASAP because he misses lots of chances but, did u see his header against Cameroun in Brussels and also Kelechi's header against Cameroun in Uyo? We can score from crosses but unfortunately the crosses ain't coming through because we have whack wingers in Simon and Musa (the two headless chickens). A Frontline with Sadiq as the top striker and Kalu as the winger will produce powerful bullet plus glancing headers from pinpoint crosses. I honestly don't see our team as a serious team whenever I see the trio of Musa, Simon and Ighalo in the list of invited players or match day squad |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:35am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Joebie: See ehn, bros. Our performance in the WC will tell who was truthful and who lied If we perform excellently or poorly, then the whole truth will come out naturally |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:39am On Apr 12, 2018 |
somehow: Thank you bro. I forgot to add the defence. They seem to lack positional abilities for headers from corners. In the last two friendlies, I even observed a bit of confusion from our defenders when we took corners |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:42am On Apr 12, 2018 |
darkelf: Is normal, this things are like phases, there was a time we had so many point men at same time in Europe doing well that we had to fix them on the wings, kanu,yakubu,Martins,Utaka,Osaze and even more, then we lacked real wingers. Also we lacked quality defensive midfielder, olofijana and Etuhu was the best we could offer, look at that department now. since Ronaldo retired Brazil are also suffering from the same thing, in 2014 worldcup they went to worldcup with fuminense 31 year old fred, once upon a time we had Enyeama, Ejide and Aiyenugba at there peak 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:44am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Perfect. Martz101: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:46am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Do they even attend heading to score? Not like we don't have defenders that can jump but they seem not to attempt scoring. Apart from Iceland, the other 2 opponents have enough scorers both with the head and legs. Goals win matches, not defending. The most scoring side wins, not the most defensive side. darkelf: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:46am On Apr 12, 2018 |
darkelf: Why una dey do like this, why this comparison? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:50am On Apr 12, 2018 |
ChrisKels: change the whole team |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:53am On Apr 12, 2018 |
darkelf: The bolded has a simple answer if we were honest with ourselves. The answer is Sadiq Umar. Remember why we were hot on the hills of Tammy, now luckily to us, Umar is even an upgrade on Tammy, so why not give him that opportunity. And to ur last paragraph, please Ighalo ain't the best, we have better strikers, only the technical crew know why they prefer Ighalo. Ighalo, Agu, Simon and Musa wouldn't make my team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:56am On Apr 12, 2018 |
darkelf:If Agali was even young you will still complain and want yekini type 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:00am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Chrismario: No Shakin !!! Respect. I went to watch Tomori, Aina and Hope. Tomori has had an opportunity and that's the operative word. I would consider quite a few non league players better than him. Aina for the little time he came on was composed and showed real quality. A clear choice for RB in the SE. Although strangely he was playing left back for Hull. Hope Akpan is in a relegation team that plays a very compact syste and is bottom of the league. A team with zero pace and very limited players Hope who use to be an attacking type of midfielder is now playing as a water carrier and was anonymous. By club form he is not SE material but individually hard to say. In football I am not sure which is more important ability or opportunity. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:04am On Apr 12, 2018 |
ChrisKels: how can Sadiq be an upgrade of tammy with less than 10 career goals chai, how can Sadiq be better than ighalo who has played against the best in the world and scored loads of goals 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:10am On Apr 12, 2018 |
Bolowolowo: dont forget Mandzukic is a player that know's how to use his head , the team played to his strength , remove Douglas Costa , and see how ordinary Mandzukic is . 3 Likes |
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