mmsen:
If he thinks that about the God Delusion what then does he think about the Bible?

Emmanystone:

He is an atheist who doesn't believe in the Bible or God, hence, doesn't go about maligning the same God who doesn't exist yet telling himself that he is an elite.


If you don't believe it, your super intelligence shd tell you to ignore it.


This man is the only atheist i've seen so far.

darkchild64:


do you see atheists panning Hinduism or Sikhism. It is because of the way that Christians and Muslims impose their religious view on everyone that makes atheists set out to prove that their "God" is imaginary.

Butterflyleo:


Finally an atheist who agrees that he can prove God does not exist. Okay go ahead and disprove the existence of God to me. I dey wait

darkchild64:

I am sure you saw the word "their" in my sentence,and if you are asking for evidence why Yahweh doesn't exist it is pretty much the same reason you don't believe Allah,Zeus,Brahman,Ogun and the rest exist

Butterflyleo:


Your use of the word "their" meant nothing as long as you said "atheists set out TO PROVE " so prove it to me then. Instead of that you do the normal thing atheists are known for, dodging such questions.

Did I tell you Allah, Zeus, Brahman, Ogun don't exist?

When did I say so?

Since I did not mention any of those you listed up there and also never said they did not exist why not focus on the subject at hand and disprove the existence of God to me.

I dey wait

darkchild64:


so you are saying that you believe in those "Gods" I mentioned ?, you have come again butterflyleo,in the next post you would say that Yahweh is the only "God"

Butterflyleo:


What manner of nonsense are you saying? When does believing in one particular God mean other gods do not exist?

Did I say other gods did not exist?

Ogbeni stop saying trash and go ahead and disprove the existence of God to me as you claim atheists want to do. I dey wait.

darkchild64:


well from your statements your are implying that you believe that Allah,Zeus and the rest exist,I am sure you don't but you feel that you have a leverage on me with that,ridiculous,let me discontinue this argument but don't deny later.

Now you asked me to disproof the existence of Yahweh,fine
the simplest explanation I can give is this

I don't see any evidence that the "God" described in the bible exists hence I hold the position that such being doesn't exist

Butterflyleo:


What a laughable statement at the bolded.

You made a claim on my behalf without me even hinting at anything of the sort. Are you not being daft?

Now you want to Also speak for me while also speaking for yourself? Is that not foolishness?

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence is it? After all blind men also DO NOT SEE a lot of evidence for a lot of things but does that stop those things from existing?

In this regard you are regarded as a blind man if you cannot see any evidence as you allude.

I just shot down your nonsensical attempt at disproving God. Why not make a better attempt with your next try.

I was expecting an intellectual argument and not this childish talk you just dropped.

Mtcheeew. In a nutshell you just spoke words with no basis and no meaning earlier. Push comes to shove you cannot disprove the existence of God.

mmsen:
If he thinks that about the God Delusion what then does he think about the Bible?

darkchild64:


I don't think I need to continue this conversation, think whatever you like that is your business

darkchild64:


do you see atheists panning Hinduism or Sikhism. It is because of the way that Christians and Muslims impose their religious view on everyone that makes atheists set out to prove that their "God" is imaginary.

mmsen:


An atheist in India might do so because Hindus, in particular, are notorious for making life difficult for those who do not belong to their religious group.

Everything from polluting local rivers with dead bodies; to disturbing the peace; to attacking people who dare to eat beef.


Religion lends itself to abuse.

mmsen:


An atheist in India might do so because Hindus, in particular, are notorious for making life difficult for those who do not belong to their religious group.

Everything from polluting local rivers with dead bodies; to disturbing the peace; to attacking people who dare to eat beef.

Religion lends itself to abuse.

mmsen:


An atheist in India might do so because Hindus, in particular, are notorious for making life difficult for those who do not belong to their religious group.

Everything from polluting local rivers with dead bodies; to disturbing the peace; to attacking people who dare to eat beef.

Religion lends itself to abuse.

Butterflyleo:


You don't want to because you CANNOT. You made a claim earlier and when asked to stand by your claim you do what all nairaland atheists are known for. YOU RUN AND HIDE.

God cannot be disproved (Go and read up on that) That's philosophy 101 for you.

Mtcheew. Brain dead atheists everywhere you go.

hopefulLandlord:


There's something about the god delusion that irks Christians especially apologists which makes them attack the book and more often the author

Apologists think the god delusion is a poor book when looked at from the philosophical angle and that's actually true! Where these apologists get it wrong is that the book wasn't meant to be a philosophical book and claiming its poor philosophically is akin to saying Harry Potter is a poor comedy book, which is a laughable thing to say
They're criticising the book for what its not meant to be as Dawkins himself said in the preface of the book not to be writing "against sophisticated theologians," but against the average believer's conception of God as a man in the sky who gave humanity a great book of rules to follow. so when an apologist takes the book and starts lampooning it for presenting a god that's in the sky the apologist has lost the entire plot! cuz there's no sense in criticising the book for what its made clear and unambiguous. Calling the book a strawman is nonsensical too. If majority of humans believe rain moves from ground to the sky and someone writes a book criticising that idea of rain. it would make no sense to criticise the book for criticising that type of rain on the premise that rain doesn't move from ground to sky

For instance I've seen apologists criticise Dawkins for lampooning Young earth in the book and they make it sound like Young Earth creationists are few and far between meanwhile Gallup poll showed around 70% of Americans are YECs

the book is very popular and sold extremely well in the market which puts the apologists in a catch-22 as they have to criticise the book but they can't do that on the book's terms. A sensible Christian apologist philosopher is better off telling Christians that god is not a magical man in the sky that created the earth 6,000 years ago, grants your wishes, watches over you and would burn you forever for not obeying his rules ams believing in his flavour of religion amongst other misconceptions rather than attacking the book or Dawkins

darkchild64:

suit yourself bro

and just so you know,I don't care about your opinion about me or atheism,I don't have anything to prove to you,I would live my life the way I want to and not you or your bible can change that, you can wish me hell or whatever,that is not my business

darkchild64:

You might be right but the point I am trying to make is this,the atheists on question Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris as well as other atheists criticize Islam and Christianity the most because they impose their ideas more than others, and not because they are trying to prove to themselves that Yahweh and Allah don't exist which is what most Christians, there is nothing special about Yahweh and Allah,they are both fabrications,but because the belief in them contributes largely to the way our society is it becomes imperative for us to talk about them

Butterflyleo:


Lmao chai chai. Now he says I can wish him hell. Things I never even thought about nor even said. Again he wants to speak for me

So now you suddenly have nothing to prove to me yet claimed atheists WANT to PROVE God is imaginary.

You are nothing but a confused mumu on the same level as mumuhumanist.

Did I say I wanted to change your life?

I am only showing you your foolishness which you made in your comment. Live your life as you wish. After all is it my life?

Dalam0n:


Most vocal atheist are from the west and yhey seem to attack the religions of their region which happen to be Christianity and lately Islam because of the influx of Muslims and the love hate relationship between Christianity and Islam.

Hindus are closely like Christians and Muslims, even though I admit that Christians and Muslims are more than them when it comes to rubbing their religions in people's faces. They also like imposing their religion on people if given the chance and especially in societies where they are dominant.

Emmanystone:

He is an atheist who doesn't believe in the Bible or God, hence, doesn't go about maligning the same God who doesn't exist yet telling himself that he is an elite.


If you don't believe it, your super intelligence shd tell you to ignore it.


This man is the only atheist i've seen so far.

mmsen:


If you were in India you would think differently. Hindus are not shy in shoving their religious delusions down the throats of others.

Martinez19:
What an intellectual failure.

darkchild64:


do you see atheists panning Hinduism or Sikhism. It is because of the way that Christians and Muslims impose their religious view on everyone that makes atheists set out to prove that their "God" is imaginary.

darkchild64:


so you are saying that you believe in those "Gods" I mentioned ?, you have come again butterflyleo,in the next post you would say that Yahweh is the only "God"

Emmanystone:

How am i shoving my faith down your throat? In Nairaland Religion section?

You are a joke and i am serious.

darkchild64:


are we going to play this game

I never said you are forcing your faith on others neither did I say otherwise,but everyone knows that atheists and agnostics are badly stigmatized in Nigeria