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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:14pm On Apr 14, 2018
Based on what? Andela Nairobi has about 300 developers. Andela Lagos total employees including admin staff is about 300. You guys with you WHACK education and reasoning capacity cannot drive anything tech forward...that is why Andela is running to East Africa. The best of Nigeria already immigrated to Europe and US - therefore I can imagine Andela really struggled in Lagos - and hit a jackpot in Nairobi and now is expanding to Kampala. All that money is probably mostly geared toward investing in East Africa - where it easy to find great software developers!!

Find out how many software engineers Andela has in Lagos and in Nairobi - and let us compare. And Nairobi was opened later smiley eti giant. Giant of Jokes.

First improve your university education - the best ranked is what University of Ibandan - who struggle to make Africa top 10 in most of rankings I have seen? How can Lagos attract investment when the best talent is simply non-existent.

obaaderemi:
You see what shervydman said about you and your baseless facts. Andela Nairobi is just a fraction of Andela, so only a fraction of that money will end up in Kenya, the lion share remains in Lagos as shown by this chart below. And I think your writing is long winded.That's unnecessary.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:19pm On Apr 14, 2018
What is the credibility of this? Any report of Africa's start up that doesn't mention Nairobi is not worth the ink it was written on.
Daejoyoung:

This month saw the release of the Global Startup Ecosystem Report and Ranking 2017, produced by Startup Genome in collaboration with the Global Entrepreneurship Network. Its findings, based on conversations with entrepreneurs and data on startups, made for interesting reading. No single African country made the top 20 ranking on the list, but Lagos, Cape Town and Johannesburg warranted mention in the report. Lagos has the most valuable startup ecosystem in Africa, with the local entrepreneurship scene worth around US$2 billion. The Lagos ecosystem has the ninth highest rate of founders with an undergraduate degree at 59 per cent, while 93 per cent of them have a technical background, the third highest rate in the world. However, Lagos startups have one of the lowest rates of foreign customers, suggesting challenges exist for those 11% of companies looking to go global. Cape Town is the largest startup ecosystem on the African continent, with between 700 and 1,200 active tech startups in the city. The whole ecosystem, however, is valued at US$172 million, well below both Lagos and Johannesburg. One-third of Cape Town startup founders have gained at least two years of prior experience in a fast-growing startup, making them five per cent more experienced than the global average. The ecosystem with the highest global connectedness was Johannesburg, which also has an ecosystem value of US$1.36 billion. The city has the third highest percentage of startups globally that experienced positive corporate interest and involvement, at 67 per cent. The global average is at 51 per cent.

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.lionessesofafrica.com/the-edit-daily/2017/3/27/new-report-ranks-lagos-as-africas-most-valuable-startup-ecosystem&ved=2ahUKEwiiqaa-0LnaAhVKEVAKHdGaBw0QFjAEegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3WEUYdWRX7D-O61DEcPS-V

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 14, 2018
obaaderemi:
You see what shervydman said about you and your baseless facts. Andela Nairobi is just a fraction of Andela, so only a fraction of that money will end up in Kenya, the lion share remains in Lagos as shown by this chart below. And I think your writing is long winded.That's unnecessary.
Lol, I've given up on d guy. In his quest to know more about Nigeria, he ended up looking like a simpleton. and that's what he gets when he decide to know more about another country than his father's cause of death; which is his unsolved mystery of how he birthed a nincompoop. smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:26pm On Apr 14, 2018
You're giving up coz you don't have any sound arguments to make here. I see the last refuge of the scoundrel is to look for a gang to heap insults and hound me out of Nairaland. Those cheap insults are a reflection of what is wrong with Nigeria. You're incapable of facing your massive and embarrassing failures. I mean BILLION dollars of OIL. 200M people. What more could a country ask for? If God came back and ask Nigeria - what didn't I give you? What will you respond? At least in Kenya we can say you didn't give us Oil like Nigeria or Middle east or Gold like South Africa.
shervydman:

Lol, I've given up on d guy. In his quest to know more about Nigeria, he ended up looking like a simpleton. and that's what he gets when he decide to know more about another country than his father's cause of death; which is his unsolved mystery of how he birthed a nincompoop. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
Based on what? Andela Nairobi has about 300 developers. Andela Lagos total employees including admin staff is about 300. You guys with you WHACK education and reasoning capacity cannot drive anything tech forward...that is why Andela is running to East Africa. The best of Nigeria already immigrated to Europe and US - therefore I can imagine Andela really struggled in Lagos - and hit a jackpot in Nairobi and now is expanding to Kampala. All that money is probably mostly geared toward investing in East Africa - where it easy to find great software developers!!

Find out how many software engineers Andela has in Lagos and in Nairobi - and let us compare. And Nairobi was opened later smiley eti giant. Giant of Jokes.

First improve your university education - the best ranked is what University of Ibandan - who struggle to make Africa top 10 in most of rankings I have seen? How can Lagos attract investment when the best talent is simply non-existent.

Lemme quickly add salt to ur injury. cheesy

Facebook to unveil tech hub in Lagos. Google to open it's first launchpad space outside US in Lagos. cheesy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1137474/facebook-google-mest-opening-tech-hubs-in-lagos-nigeria/amp/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:34pm On Apr 14, 2018
If Nigeria is already feeling the heat from current generation of Kenyans - wait until the next generation come of age. Kenya has implemented an ambitious probably first in the Africa roll out of Laptops/Tablets for all public primary schools. More than 1M devices with teaching aid - projectors - to all public schools - that involved electrifying all schools.

Every of nearly 30,000 primary schools of Kenya and 5,000 secondary schools are now equipped with electricity and computers!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:40pm On Apr 14, 2018
I lost count of the number of multinational including Goolge, IBM and name them- who made Nairobi their Africa HQ - leave alone opening small hubs. IBM and a number has RESEARCH stations in Nairobi...coz they can get top brains here.

IBM Africa Research Lab - Nairobi


When they open research labs in Lagos - like they've done in Nairobi - come and shout here.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibms-first-african-lab-why-big-blue-is-taking-on-the-continents-grand-challenges/

shervydman:

Lemme quickly add salt to ur injury. cheesy

Facebook to unveil tech hub in Lagos. Google to open it's first launchpad space outside US in Lagos. cheesy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1137474/facebook-google-mest-opening-tech-hubs-in-lagos-nigeria/amp/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
You're giving up coz you don't have any sound arguments to make here. I see the last refuge of the scoundrel is to look for a gang to heap insults and hound me out of Nairaland. Those cheap insults are a reflection of what is wrong with Nigeria. You're incapable of facing your massive and embarrassing failures. I mean BILLION dollars of OIL. 200M people. What more could a country ask for? If God came back and ask Nigeria - what didn't I give you? What will you respond? At least in Kenya we can say you didn't give us Oil like Nigeria or Middle east or Gold like South Africa.
So, I'm I to be blamed that God didn't give u oil or gold or what are u insinuating??

Well, I'm only using ur father's ball that birthed u for shooting practice, I'm using u to exploit d potency of my expletives, that's how I deal with dumb fellows like u. I'm already done with d thread. cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:46pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
I lost count of the number of multinational including Goolge, IBM and name them- who made Nairobi their Africa HQ - leave alone opening small hubs. IBM and a number has RESEARCH stations in Nairobi...coz they can get top brains here.

IBM Africa Research Lab - Nairobi


When they open research labs in Lagos - like they've done in Nairobi - come and shout here.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibms-first-african-lab-why-big-blue-is-taking-on-the-continents-grand-challenges/

Good for u..... cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:50pm On Apr 14, 2018
You're too blame because you cannot accept the truth and start the tough journery of crawling out of the rat hole.
Kenya has no oil - but in my lifetime - I don't remember one single day we had to queue to buy fuel due to shortage.
Kenya has never ran out of fuel - we have had an oil refinery for a long time that functioned - until recently - but still there is and will never be shortage of refined oil.

We have extensive oil pipeline for downstream (refined) products that ensure oil is transported cheaply and never ran out.

Oil arrives mostly from Dubai & Saudi Arabia - with supply contract awarded to one oil company for 3 months - it get piped from Mombasa to all over - and never never never ran short!!

And add to fact that we export a lot of petroleum products to rest of Africa - yeah we produce no oil - but we sell oil products - refined of course. Kenol-kobil are the biggest players in East and South Africa -- selling refined oil all the way to congo and down to I think Zimbwabwe!! Some of Africa biggest downstream oil companies including Kenya's indegenous ones - that dominate east and part of south africa - all the way to Zimbwabwe.

Nigeria you're the curse of the world my friend.

shervydman:

So, I'm I to be blamed that God didn't give u oil or gold or what are u insinuating??

Well, I'm only using ur father's ball that birthed u for shooting practice, I'm using u to exploit d potency of my expletives, that's how I deal with dumb fellows like u. I'm already done with d thread. cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:51pm On Apr 14, 2018
Kenyans and other africans. Why our country nigeria is backwards is because most of we nigerians have no shame we can only vote for a criminal,follow a criminal,mixed with criminals. When we go to other countries we want to do the same follow criminals up and down the place and then stats deceiving ourselves. Most of we nigerians will not follow some one which will develop us or make our lives better. Rodger we will follow the wrong type of people vote for the wrong type of people then we want progress and development it is not possible. As we are suffering today in the country we do not look at our mistakes but rather deceive ourselves in all aspects of life. It is sad to see our people waste dear future away why are nigerian businesses are investing tens of billions of us dollars in other african countries example,ghana,benin republic,south africa,botswana, namibia and even zimbabwe. Nigeria we'll only develop when we start telling ourselves the truth. See article below.



Without Becoming A ‘Thief’ First, ‘Nobody’ Can Become Nigeria’s President
BALARABE Musa, former Governor of Kaduna State during the Nigerian Second Republic has said without first becoming a thief it is impossible to become the President of Nigeria.

Musa stated this on Friday while he playing host to Omoyele Sowore, publisher of Sahara Reporters, when the latter visited him in Kaduna to make his presidential ambition known to the former aspirant who had contested for the same office in 2003.

Mr Sowore had asked Mr Musa why the country could not attain greater height during their days in office as leaders of the country.

Mr Musa blamed rots in the social political system which he said controls the development of the country.

“Once the system is wrong then you would have the situation we have in Nigeria.



“The quality of Nigerian leadership is thieves. Since the end of the second republic how has it been possible in Nigeria to have a political leadership which is not made up of thieves?” Musa asked rhetorically.

“I am not saying 100% of the leadership are thieves, No there are exception, for instance, I doubt if it’s upto 1% who are clean people, but when you look at it these clean people are made up of people who have not been able to steal because even stealing is not available to everybody. But these people do not constitute more than 1% of Nigeria’s population, the 99% populations are made up of thieves.

“How can you be the President of Nigeria without being a thief first? he asked, adding that “It is through stealing that you can make it.”

The former governor said the expensiveness of the Nigerian politics is one of the reason why it is not possible for a clean person to become the president of the country.

“You become a president base on politics (political party) and election. Both are based on money power.

“We have a system of survival of the fittest, Nobody can be a president of Nigeria unless he is a thief or supported by thieves.

“The reasonable estimate for the cost of campaigning for presidency in Nigeria is billions.

“Who can acquire this billions? Before the second republic it was not so. But it was no longer possible after the second republic because money power plays a leading role in politics and election.”


https://www.headlineng.com/video-without-thief-nobody-president-balarabe-musa/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:58pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
Based on what? Andela Nairobi has about 300 developers. Andela Lagos total employees including admin staff is about 300. You guys with you WHACK education and reasoning capacity cannot drive anything tech forward...that is why Andela is running to East Africa. The best of Nigeria already immigrated to Europe and US - therefore I can imagine Andela really struggled in Lagos - and hit a jackpot in Nairobi and now is expanding to Kampala. All that money is probably mostly geared toward investing in East Africa - where it easy to find great software developers!!

Find out how many software engineers Andela has in Lagos and in Nairobi - and let us compare. And Nairobi was opened later smiley eti giant. Giant of Jokes.

First improve your university education - the best ranked is what University of Ibandan - who struggle to make Africa top 10 in most of rankings I have seen? How can Lagos attract investment when the best talent is simply non-existent.

It might interest you to know that Andela just appointed Semi Sulyman, a Nigerian as Vice President Global Operations. And they just opened another office in Lagos last year. By the way their staff strength in Lagos is 500. I still don't know why this Andela thing angers you so much. The chart below puts the matter to rest. I don't see Nairobi on it. Pls help me search for Nairobi.https://andela.com/blog/andela-opens-new-nigerian-hq-hint-epic/

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:02pm On Apr 14, 2018
shervydman:

So, I'm I to be blamed that God didn't give u oil or gold or what are u insinuating??

Well, I'm only using ur father's ball that birthed u for shooting practice, I'm using u to exploit d potency of my expletives, that's how I deal with dumb fellows like u. I'm already done with d thread. cheesy
Ha! Epon baba oni baba. It's not good o. I'm serious.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:10pm On Apr 14, 2018
Andela is great - it will become even greater now that Nairobi is driving it - that is my 2 cent. It would be nice to find a comparison btw Lagos and Nairobi Andela - I have no doubt Nairobi is kicking butt.

I have no beef with Andela -I was only highlighting what in statistics they call "OUTLIER". If we were to analyze the last 5yrs of tech funding in Africa - then all over sudden Gambia - receive one funding of 1B dollars - will it make sense to say Gambia is the best to be.

Andela got 40M funding in 2017 - nothing to scream about - Kenya's M-Kopa got $80m in Dec 2017!

As for that chart - I can't make head or tail of it - what exactly are you trying to say? Value as in Return on Investment? Or this a graph where finally Lagos is on top of something - except population grin

obaaderemi:
It might interest you to know that Andela just appointed Semi Sulyman, a Nigerian as Vice President Global Operations. And they just opened another office in Lagos last year. By the way their staff strength in Lagos is 500. I still don't know why this Andela thing angers you so much. The chart below puts the matter to rest. I don't see Nairobi on it. Pls help me search for Nairobi.https://andela.com/blog/andela-opens-new-nigerian-hq-hint-epic/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:29pm On Apr 14, 2018
So how many developer does Andela have in Lagos
https://techpoint.ng/2017/10/17/andela-recruit-senior-technical-consultants/
“Andela has a total of around 700 staff across its various offices, including its 500 developers/fellows”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestreptalks/2018/01/12/andela-aims-to-solve-the-developer-shortage-with-tech-workers-from-africa/#3511012764e0
"Andela currently has 900 employees, including 300 developers working for outside firms, 300 developers in training and 300 staffers"
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:47pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
Andela is great - it will become even greater now that Nairobi is driving it - that is my 2 cent. It would be nice to find a comparison btw Lagos and Nairobi Andela - I have no doubt Nairobi is kicking butt.

I have no beef with Andela -I was only highlighting what in statistics they call "OUTLIER". If we were to analyze the last 5yrs of tech funding in Africa - then all over sudden Gambia - receive one funding of 1B dollars - will it make sense to say Gambia is the best to be.

Andela got 40M funding in 2017 - nothing to scream about - Kenya's M-Kopa got $80m in Dec 2017!

As for that chart - I can't make head or tail of it - what exactly are you trying to say? Value as in Return on Investment? Or this a graph where finally Lagos is on top of something - except population grin

The chart has a heading which is as clear as daylight but your blind pride stopped you from understanding it. By the way, is this not the same guy who was proven wrong on the banking ROA not long ago?You've been proven wrong again on value of tech funding. You better go and sit down.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:57pm On Apr 14, 2018
I haven't been proven wrong on this or bank ROA. Whichever year you pick - all the data indicate Kenya/Nairobi beat Nigeria/lagos in tech funding and Bank ROA - remove outliers or wait for 2018 to see if Nigeria will do it again before you talk about the chart (using a single data point) - again I am not surprised by your spirited argument devoid of soundness. That is Nigeria. The country that is trying to hang in there with Kenya. Such a shame.
obaaderemi:
The chart has a heading which is as clear as daylight but your blind pride stopped you from understanding it. By the way, is this not the same guy who was proven wrong on the banking ROA not long ago?You've been proven wrong again on value of tech funding. You better go and sit down.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 2:04pm On Apr 14, 2018
obaaderemi:
Correct man!I used to be very active on this thread until Trump labelled Africa a shiithole. No African country is doing well apart from those tiny countries such as Mauritius and Seychelles. And a couple of north African states. Food and employment are still major problems I. Nigeria and Kenya. So many people live in slums in both countries. Terrorism exists in both, manufacturing is low in both, Nigeria imports rice while Kenya imports maize. It's just plain silly. Skyscrapers in both countries are not up to 100. A tiny country like hong Kong has over 1000.
in short instead of wasting energies arguing with one another we should direct such energy solving our many complex problems

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:05pm On Apr 14, 2018
Daejoyoung:

This month saw the release of the Global Startup Ecosystem Report and Ranking 2017, produced by Startup Genome in collaboration with the Global Entrepreneurship Network. Its findings, based on conversations with entrepreneurs and data on startups, made for interesting reading. No single African country made the top 20 ranking on the list, but Lagos, Cape Town and Johannesburg warranted mention in the report. Lagos has the most valuable startup ecosystem in Africa, with the local entrepreneurship scene worth around US$2 billion. The Lagos ecosystem has the ninth highest rate of founders with an undergraduate degree at 59 per cent, while 93 per cent of them have a technical background, the third highest rate in the world. However, Lagos startups have one of the lowest rates of foreign customers, suggesting challenges exist for those 11% of companies looking to go global. Cape Town is the largest startup ecosystem on the African continent, with between 700 and 1,200 active tech startups in the city. The whole ecosystem, however, is valued at US$172 million, well below both Lagos and Johannesburg. One-third of Cape Town startup founders have gained at least two years of prior experience in a fast-growing startup, making them five per cent more experienced than the global average. The ecosystem with the highest global connectedness was Johannesburg, which also has an ecosystem value of US$1.36 billion. The city has the third highest percentage of startups globally that experienced positive corporate interest and involvement, at 67 per cent. The global average is at 51 per cent.

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.lionessesofafrica.com/the-edit-daily/2017/3/27/new-report-ranks-lagos-as-africas-most-valuable-startup-ecosystem&ved=2ahUKEwiiqaa-0LnaAhVKEVAKHdGaBw0QFjAEegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3WEUYdWRX7D-O61DEcPS-V
I have broken it down for him with several links but he is not open to reason. He is a persistent little puppy. I guess he is holding on just to save face. He was beaten on banking, he shifted to tech funding, got beaten again and he is trying to shift to other things. I don't know why this means so much to him. Maybe his life depends on it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:06pm On Apr 14, 2018
chrisooblog:
in short instead of wasting energies arguing with one another we should direct such energy solving our many complex problems
Abi o. They should also face their numerous problems.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:09pm On Apr 14, 2018
Beaten how? 2017 Bank ROA by Africa- top 10 - has ONE Nigeria bank and 4 or 5 Kenyan banks. The highest in Africa. The same is replicated all years preceding that. I don't know if having one Nigeria in top 10 ROA banks in Africa - make the entire Nigeria bank more profitable..than Kenya which has the bulk of the banks in Top 10 ROA.

Fact: KENYAN BANKS have some highest RETURN ON ASSETS GLOBALLY - not only in Africa - once in a awhile - one Nigeria bank can appear in the list - perhaps because of some exceptional item in their balance (maybe they sold some land or asset) - but overally Kenyan banks whichever year you pick - are MORE PROFITABLE.

The same with tech funding. 2017 (remove Andela) , 2016, 2015, go back....it Joburg and Nairobi.

Those are SOLID FACTS.

obaaderemi:
I have broken it down for him with several links but he is not open to reason. He is a persistent little puppy. I guess he is holding on just to save face. He was beaten on banking, he shifted to tech funding, got beaten again and he is trying to shift to other things. I don't know why this means so much to him. Maybe his life depends on it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:10pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
I haven't been proven wrong on this or bank ROA. Whichever year you pick - all the data indicate Kenya/Nairobi beat Nigeria/lagos in tech funding and Bank ROA - remove outliers or wait for 2018 to see if Nigeria will do it again before you talk about the chart (using a single data point) - again I am not surprised by your spirited argument devoid of soundness. That is Nigeria. The country that is trying to hang in there with Kenya. Such a shame.
Okay, let's wait for 2018 like you suggested. Maybe by then you would have caught up. On that cheerful note, I bid you bye bye. Enjoy your day.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:12pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
Beaten how? 2017 Bank ROA by Africa- top 10 - has ONE Nigeria bank and 4 or 5 Kenyan banks. The highest in Africa. The same is replicated all years preceding that. I don't know if having one Nigeria in top 10 ROA banks in Africa - make the entire Nigeria bank more profitable..than Kenya which has the bulk of the banks in Top 10 ROA.

Fact: KENYAN BANKS have some highest RETURN ON ASSETS GLOBALLY - not only in Africa - once in a awhile - one Nigeria bank can appear in the list - perhaps because of some exceptional item in their balance (maybe they sold some land or asset) - but overally Kenyan banks whichever year you pick - are MORE PROFITABLE.

The same with tech funding. 2017 (remove Andela) , 2016, 2015, go back....it Joburg and Nairobi.

Those are SOLID FACTS.

We've heard you. Can you stop crying now?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:14pm On Apr 14, 2018
one bank every decade in list of top Africa bank ROA - tough luck replicating every year like Kenya.
One skycrapper every decade in EAC - tough luck replicating it every year like Kenya.
One 40M Andela funding every decade in tech - tough luck replicating every year like Kenya.

In short you're standing on a lose ground and there is really no point in waiting for Nigeria to do anything than it's done before - which is to disappoint.

obaaderemi:
Okay, let's wait for 2018 like you suggested. Maybe by then you would have caught up. On that cheerful note, I bid you bye bye. Enjoy your day.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:21pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
one bank every decade in list of top Africa bank ROA - tough luck replicating every year like Kenya.
One skycrapper every decade in EAC - tough luck replicating it every year like Kenya.
One 40M Andela funding every decade in tech - tough luck replicating every year like Kenya.

In short you're standing on a lose ground and there is really no point in waiting for Nigeria to do anything than it's done before - which is to disappoint.

Okay

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:32pm On Apr 14, 2018
Good. It more worthwhile watching kenyan banks slowly and surely rise in Africa. You know in 2015 - there was no Kenyan bank in top 25 of Africa and possibly world top 1000...but by 2017..by rising slowly and surely...now only 4 Nigeria banks are better than 2 Kenyan banks. By 2020 - you won't know what hit you.. just like the budget when we started this thread...kenya was barely $20b but 2yrs later it overtaken Nigeria at $29B

Kenya rise is inevitable. It's economic growth so broad-based. It economy so well diversified nothing can bring it down. Not OIL like Nigeria. Or Mining like South Africa. Soon we will have a go at South Africa - give us 10-15yrs. And we won't cook out GDP to lie to ourselves.


obaaderemi:
Okay

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:17pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
Good. It more worthwhile watching kenyan banks slowly and surely rise in Africa. You know in 2015 - there was no Kenyan bank in top 25 of Africa and possibly world top 1000...but by 2017..by rising slowly and surely...now only 4 Nigeria banks are better than 2 Kenyan banks. By 2020 - you won't know what hit you.. just like the budget when we started this thread...kenya was barely $20b but 2yrs later it overtaken Nigeria at $29B

Kenya rise is inevitable. It's economic growth so broad-based. It economy so well diversified nothing can bring it down. Not OIL like Nigeria. Or Mining like South Africa. Soon we will have a go at South Africa - give us 10-15yrs. And we won't cook out GDP to lie to ourselves.


Bravos. Let me save this for future reference.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 5:02pm On Apr 14, 2018
rvp2017:
You're incorrigible - how would you compare if we didn't use USD? What is a Naira trillion - definitely not a KSHS trillion -1kshs is worth 3.57 Naira as of today.

Your federal budget is equivalent to 28B USD (Dec 2017) - Kenya national budget was 26B (June 2017) and is set to grow to 29B in June 2018.

Your state budget is equivalent to 25BUSD (9 trillion Naira) - but 6 trillion is from the federal allocation - so the extra that state collect as their own revenue is 3 trillion Naira. - 8 B usd.

So give and take - total Nigeria budget is 28(federal)+8B=36B USD - for the GIANT.

Kenya 47 devolved counties - collect their own revenue (they are not federal - so mostly fees and rates) - total of about 1B USD - add that to kenya 29B - and you have 30B.

Nigeria (federal+state);36B USD. Kenya(national+devolved) 30B. The GIANT indeeed.

And for reference check south africa budget - federal and provincial - and just know NIGERIA is not a giant of anything...serious.

you are truly ignorant, purchasing power parity is the real value and not currency denomination, if we decide to have smaller currencies like #1,#2,#3 its possible our currency can be higher than the dollar but doesn't mean our economy is up to the US Economy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 5:44pm On Apr 14, 2018
Rvp2017,Kenya is the best in the world.In terms of

Technology and Science
Banking and services
Agriculture
Sports
Entertainment
Economy
Tourism
infrastructure wait,how is your country relevant to Nigeria self,no country in Africa is relevant to us except the white European-African country south Africa.

Talk of Entertainment, we have the 2nd best Entertainment industry in Africa.

Talk of Tech and science, we have our own Zinox,one of the largest producer of ICT gadgets, if not the largest indigenous company, we have konga,jumia,Iroko TV( largest online video streamer ),we have our own startups,we have our own mobile money platforms, our own TV stations ruling africa eg sound city,hip TV,channels TV,tvc news,African movie Network, etc,consolidated media etc

Banking sector, very obvious

We have our manufacturing sector, one of the largest on the continent even without electricity

Nigerian students are well known around the world

We aren't receiving any kind of aid from your country.


Pls oga rvp, delete from this forum jare,your country no even common for we side

The average man on the street of Nigeria only knows SA,Egypt,Ghana,Togo and not even kenya



"Pls sir,have you heard of Kenya in Africa"

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by owbabs: 6:11pm On Apr 14, 2018
Common wealth games is almost over grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:12pm On Apr 14, 2018
I am actually being rather fair because if I used the real exchange rate (aka black market rate for USD) - then things will be so bad for you guys. But let's avoid long arguments and stick with what your central banks as fixed as the exchange rate as of today.

You see you've been deciding the value of your currency and you've done a VERY VERY BAD job at it. The last time Kenya did that was in 1992...that about 30 yrs AGO!Our Kshs is freely floating and find it's value based on the market. We don't fix our currency. We are so confident about it we have let the forex market determine it. Nobody in kenya since 30yrs ago has heard about forex shortage or black market rate or having to apply for forex - you can walk into any forex or bank in kenya - and buy as many dollars or euros or nairas as you want.

So again kenya is ahead of you in forex management - our proud Kshs is freely floating - yours is pegged to the dollar by your Central Bankers and you know the pain!

You see KENYA ONCE AGAIN has been getting top marks year in year out for THE STABILITY OF KSHS. When rest of Africa was catching cold and devaluing their currency - we just sat there and let Kenya SHS shine!!! That is what you get when you have free open-market liberalized well-diversified modern economy.

Now when you talking about PP - you honestly don't think it will have an impact when comparing Kenya and Nigeria? Maybe their would be some argument if you were comparing yourself to South Africa - otherwise I bet there is very little purchasing power parity btw kenya and Nigeria.

samsobo24:
you are truly ignorant, purchasing power parity is the real value and not currency denomination, if we decide to have smaller currencies like #1,#2,#3 its possible our currency can be higher than the dollar but doesn't mean our economy is up to the US Economy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:13pm On Apr 14, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Did you just call Volvo a Chinese knockoff? Im offended undecided They may have been acquired by the chinese but they deserve some respect! Thats the model for liberals! These days they are really pushing electric and driverless cars. Not to mention that without Volvo you wouldnt be enjoying the safety of a standard three-point seat belt.
Calling Volvo Chinese is like calling Land Rover Indian...... So no wasn't talking about Volvo grin grin

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