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Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: discovered what? that blood with 24 chromosomes can be identified as human? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:25pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Their findings on the sample tested concluded that Jesus' DNA has nothing traceable to an earthly father which should have produced 23 Y Chromosomes... Are they right or wrong... do you have anything to counter their position? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:27pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Stick to the discussion and put aside unnecessary insults or jabs... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:37pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: This is not a matter of right or wrong. This is a matter of Truth or deceit. And the answer is ....... Ron Wyatt was lying. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:41pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: How did you know Ron Wyatt is lying? Funny enough, this is the direction I intended this discussion to head towards.... Back to the matter on ground, how did you know Ron Wyatt lied? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:41pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Are there people out there who still take Ron Wyatt seriously? Con men simply don’t get much more transparent than this guy. Wyatt was a nurse anesthetist (now deceased) who claimed not only to have found Noah’s Ark, but to have found virtually everything in Biblical archaeology that might be important to Christians – Noah’s Ark, the exact place where the Red Sea was parted to allow the Israelites to escape Egypt, the true location of Mt. Sinai, the Ark of the Covenant and, most ridiculously, the actual blood of Jesus Christ! http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2006/06/30/ron-wyatt-collosal-fraud/ |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:43pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Wyatt claims that when Jesus died 2000 years ago that the water and the blood of our Lord trickled down the cross, went through a crack in the rock holding the cross up and then dripped directly onto the ark of the covenant that was supposedly hidden in a cave under Golgotha where Christ was then being crucified. Not only is there not a single Bible verse to back this claim in either the Old or New Testament that Christ’s blood needed to be sprinkled on the earthly copy of the ark of the covenant. The man Ron Wyatt died almost 14 years ago before he could prove he actually found the ark under that rock. Worse yet, the man was a Seventh Day Adventist in good standing at the time of both his discovery and death. Some do claim that Ron Wyatt spoke out against the SDA church a time or two, hoping this will lead some into thinking he is trustworthy and should be promoted as a man of God. But I know of no man or woman of God in Scripture that was blessed with revelations or even granted special dispensations while in bold and defiant disobedience to the Lord’s written command regarding coming out of Babylon. We have historic and prophetic evidence that the SDA church was at the time Ron Wyatt was alive and still is in apostasy to this day and is now a confirmed and well documented sister of fallen Babylon http://www.remnantofgod.org/wyatt.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-IwEWo-zI |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:44pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: What is the name of the laboratory where he had the blood of Jesus tested? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:58pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: I've done some search, and there are conflicting claims on where the tests were done...one mentioned it was in a hospital lab in Nashville...the other claimed it was done somewhere in Jerusalem... and unfortunately, Ronn Wyatt is dead and buried...in no position to back up his claims... I'd rather wait for the nuclear DNA test and forensic analysis result on the sudarium... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by Nobody: 5:59pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO:These claims are risible, to say the least. How mendacious can a man get! Anyone that believes these Ron Wyatt's assertions needs to have their brain checked. His claims are really the height of stupidity. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 6:17pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
gensteejay: Oh well... another one shares the same position as well... PastorAIO this one's claim answers where the blood sample was tested... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRTy-nFE0Y&feature=youtu.be |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 8:22pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: Why not just let us hear it from the horse's mouth direct. If you go to 1:58 on the following video he'll tell you which city he had the blood tested. Please tell me whether or not you think he is telling the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsS5x9_DitU |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 8:23pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: Are you seriously gong to for that? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 8:43pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: If you really understand what I am after, then you will find out it's not about Ronn Wyatt but these; 1) The Existence of Jesus and who his Father is... 2) The death and resurrection of Jesus... Do you believe in these or not? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 8:45pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Yes of course... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 9:09pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: OkCornel: |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 9:10pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: Well good luck. But please don't sit around while you wait. Try to do something constructive with your life. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 9:21pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
OkCornel: So you talked about going back to the subject of the discussion. What brought all this dna chat? Someone said they didn't believe the bible stories because they couldn't believe that mary had a baby without having sex with a man. You countered it by saying that: But can you explain how the DNA of a human being has no chromosome traceable to an earthly father? We thought you had evidence but it has now transpired that you are still waiting for the evidence so your claim that there were no father's chromosomes was just bluster and bluff. That's the end of that line of debate. Abeg let us move back to more relevant issues. Do you have any evidence that the bible predated the Epic of Gilgamesh? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 9:36pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: My evidence of no father's chromosomes were bluster and bluff? did you watch the last video I posted on this thread as to another person who performed the test? Another hasty conclusion again? smh If you had followed my conversations with Emmanystone, I clearly mentioned that the Epic of Gilgamesh was written before the book of Genesis... By the way, I can see you are yet to answer my questions on 1) The existence and fatherhood of Jesus 2) The death and resurrection of Jesus Do you believe these or not... 3 Likes |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 9:37pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Per the bolded, you should be telling yourself that... you have no idea what I do for a living...or as a matter of fact how much I earn... so your advice is dead on arrival... Back to the topic of discussion... 3 Likes |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 6:45am On Apr 15, 2018 |
JMAN05: They are not claims, but they they are what really happened. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 7:04am On Apr 15, 2018 |
OkCornel: Go through this work.
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Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 10:21am On Apr 15, 2018 |
OkCornel: Great! Then you'll be alright then. As long as you are active and constructive while you're waiting then your waiting won't be totally in vain. I sense that you didn't even understand what I was getting at but your insecurities just led you to react all touchy. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 10:07am On Apr 16, 2018 |
PastorAIO: My insecurities led me to react all touchy? nice joke there... So what were you getting at that I didn't understand? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 10:10am On Apr 16, 2018 |
sonmvayina: I asked a simple and straightforward question: Who did Emperor Nero blame for the fire incident in Rome around 60-65 AD? I am still figuring out how messengers of a "Roman story with a Jewish setting" were persecuted and killed by the same Roman authorities instead of being encouraged and rewarded... Just a simple answer to the question above will set the ball rolling on our discussion as to whether Christianity is something forged by Eusebius or otherwise... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 10:13am On Apr 16, 2018 |
OkCornel: Maybe it wasn't obvious. I meant you were going to be waiting a very long time. Forever in fact, so don't just wait, get on with your life. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 10:16am On Apr 16, 2018 |
OkCornel: Haa, I know what your problem is, English comprehension.... I guess I can't help you on that.. I said Jesus was written into existence possibly by Eusebius, he also wrote the history of the religion by introducing stories to make it look like it existed before the time it was invented.. Those stories you are referring to where all introduced to give it a historical backing. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 10:24am On Apr 16, 2018 |
sonmvayina: Who did Emperor Nero blame and persecute for the fire incident in Rome? stop dodging this question, the historical and archaeological evidences are there... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 10:25am On Apr 16, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Did you watch the last video I posted on this thread? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 10:38am On Apr 16, 2018 |
sonmvayina: You claim to know what my problem is...whereas...you are evasive of my question. You claim Eusebius "POSSIBLY" wrote Jesus into existence... There were Roman historians and scribes such as Tacitus, Pliny the Elder...e.t.c. that gave account of the Great fire of Rome in AD 64 and how Nero blamed it on the Christians. Long before Eusebius even existed. Also do well to acquaint yourself with the works of Josephus Flavius who also wrote about Jesus. This man lived long before Eusebius ever existed. It's funny that you referred me to the work of an Australian author and businessman as your basis on forged Christianity... as though this Australian man knows the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves... don't get yourself confused... If you want to know better about the historicity of Jesus...take a hike to Israel and hear what the Jewish historians who clearly do not believe Jesus is the Messiah have to say about Him... THEY DO NOT ACCEPT HIM, BUT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THEY KNEW HE ONCE LIVED AMONGST THEM |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 11:05am On Apr 16, 2018 |
OkCornel: Yes, I'd actually watched it before I found the one I posted. What about it? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by sonmvayina(m): 12:36pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
Emmanystone: It is not my fault when you refuse to educate and enlighten yourself, is it? When the TIME comes, you will surely know.. That is what is going to set you free.. |
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