Nothing wrong with drinking beer or brewing beer.

It is a highly recommended drink for men.

The Church even has a special prayer for blessing beer.

[quote author=Earthbound post=66818205]Yes na! Some priests smoke too.

They will be forming holier than thou, but their sins are enough for their entire generation to burn in hell.[/quotea]and you are you holy? Or can't you live above sin

Am very sure that's Heineken they are drinking.

Smoothest beer ever.

Idiotic freeze, please note that the pope is not Jesus and not even born again. Judas Iscariot was an apostle . He was with Christ as one of the twelve,ate with Christ but did not make it how much more a pope that may even be an anti Christ.

It's not new
Our Italian Rev. father always smoke cigarettes.

Why quote from Old testament to prove a point? Thought he said Tithing is an old testament thing and wasn't mentioned in the new testament?

Some Nigerian Pastors are just swindlers and hypocrites. They are very manipulative too. Use your head people before a con man answering Pastor use it for you.

So Pope is now your example?

goodnews777:
Idiotic freeze, please note that the pope is not Jesus and[b] not even born again.[/b] Judas Iscariot was an apostle . He was with Christ as one of the twelve,ate with Christ but did not make it how much more a pope that may even be an anti Christ.

Bros You mean Pope Emeritus Benedict xvi one of the greatest Christian theologians of the last century is not born again? Really? I hope you don't mind expatiating on this claim

He doesn't even have any respect for our heavens gate keeper Daddy GO.

Nonsense. As much as I dont detest drinking because Bible only warned about drunkeness and the danger of giving in to much drinks, freeze should just stop this useless,illogical and unscriptural comparism.The pope or any pastor is not the perfect example for any christian but Christ and bible.

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Abjay97:
Were you there to verify if the wine was alcoholic?

TL;DR

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-water-wine.html

John chapter 2 records Jesus performing a miracle at a wedding in Cana of Galilee. At the wedding, the hosts ran out of wine. Jesus' mother, Mary, asks Jesus to intervene, and He does so, reluctantly. Jesus has the servants bring six jars filled with water and then instructs the servants to give it to the overseer of the celebration. The water miraculously turns into wine, and the overseer declares that it was the best wine he had ever tasted. In this account, Jesus performed an amazing miracle, actually altering the molecular composition of the water, changing it into wine. The point of the account is summarized in John 2:11, "He thus revealed His glory, and His disciples put their faith in Him." Usually, though, when this passage is studied, a side issue becomes the main issue. Did Jesus transform the water into wine (fermented, alcoholic) or into grape juice (non-alcoholic)?

Throughout the passage, the Greek word translated "wine" is oinos, which was the common Greek word for normal wine, wine that was fermented/alcoholic. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is the same word for the wine the wedding feast ran out of. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is also the same word that is used in Ephesians 5:18, "...do not get drunk on wine..." Obviously, getting drunk from drinking wine requires the presence of alcohol. Everything, from the context of a wedding feast, to the usage of oinos in 1st century Greek literature (in the New Testament and outside the New Testament), argues for the wine that Jesus created to be normal, ordinary wine, containing alcohol. There is simply no solid historical, cultural, exegetical, contextual, or lexical reason to understand it to have been grape juice.

Those who oppose the drinking of alcohol, in any quantity, argue that Jesus would not have turned the water into wine, as He would have been promoting the consumption of a substance that is tainted by sin. In this understanding, alcohol itself is inherently sinful, and consumption of alcohol in any quantity is sin. That is not a biblical understanding, however. Some Scriptures discuss alcohol in positive terms. Ecclesiastes 9:7 instructs, “Drink your wine with a merry heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 states that God gives wine “that makes glad the heart of men.” Amos 9:14 discusses drinking wine from your own vineyard as a sign of God’s blessing. Isaiah 55:1 encourages, “Yes, come buy wine and milk…” From these and other Scriptures, it is clear that alcohol itself is not inherently sinful. Rather, it is the abuse of alcohol, drunkenness and/or addiction, that is sinful (Ephesians 5:18; Proverbs 23:29-35; 1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19). Therefore, it would not have been a sin for Jesus to create a drink that contained alcohol.

A second, related argument is that by creating alcoholic wine, Jesus would have been promoting drunkenness, which the Bible clearly identifies as sinful. This is not a valid argument. Was Jesus promoting gluttony when He multiplied the fishes and loaves far beyond what the people needed? Of course not. Creating a substance that can be abused does not make one responsible when another person foolishly chooses to abuse it. Jesus creating alcoholic wine was in no sense encouraging drunkenness.

The belief that Jesus created alcoholic wine is definitely more in agreement with the context and the definition/usage of oinos. The primary reasons for interpreting it as grape juice, that alcohol is inherently sinful or that the creation of alcohol would have been encouraging drunkenness, are unbiblical and invalid. There is simply no good biblical reason to understand John 2 as anything other than Jesus performing an amazing miracle by turning water into real wine. Is drunkenness sinful? Absolutely! Is addiction sinful? Definitely. Would Jesus turning the water into alcoholic wine in any way violate God's standards regarding the consumption of alcohol? Absolutely not!

Look at him quoting Deuteronomy to justify beer drinking, but when someone quotes Malachi to justify tithe paying, he goes all sad for referring to the old testament.



Please call me whenever Freeze justifies adultery and premarital s e x with a bible verse.

Rangojack:
Why quote from Old testament to prove a point? Thought he said Tithing is an old testament thing and wasn't mentioned in the new testament?

1 Timothy 5:23 New International Version (NIV)

23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses

Acidosis:

Look at him quoting Deuteronomy to justify beer drinking, but when someone quotes Malachi to justify tithe paying, he goes all sad for referring to the old testament.



Please call me whenever Freeze justifies adultery and premarital s e x with a bible verse.

1 Timothy 5:23 New International Version (NIV)

23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses

If you know this boy called Freeze warn him that his day of reaping is drawing near.
Pastor Adeboye is old enough to be his father. If this is how he disrespect elders he will never grow old

Abjay97:
Were you there to verify if the wine was alcoholic?

Make your research and you will discover that wines made in ancient times were alcoholic in nature.

Lol! Ignorant man freeze is. Is Adeboye pope? Or does he take instructions from him also Pentecostal and catholic there’s a difference, there’s a history behind Catholics taking beer I thought he’d know this.

Goat wey carry bucket go fetch water for river, e go carry am come house, come baf.

Thegeneralqueen:
Lemme drink my own self if you follow religion you nor go reach your destination

God bless you ma

Daddy freeze, please I have asked before and I am asking again and again.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HARVEST GIVING AND TITHING.
Please relate it to the Bible you read.
I think it will solve this your post.

aku626:
Lol! Ignorant man freeze is. Is Adeboye pope? Or does he take instructions from him also Pentecostal and catholic there’s a difference, there’s a history behind Catholics taking beer I thought he’d know this.

AlCOHOL WAS NEVER PROHIBITED EITHER IN THE OLD OR NEW TESTAMENT.WHAT WAS CONDEMED WAS DRUNKUNESS

goodnews777:
Idiotic freeze, please note that the pope is not Jesus and not even born again. Judas Iscariot was an apostle . He was with Christ as one of the twelve,ate with Christ but did not make it how much more a pope that may even be an anti Christ.

But pastor in the church that collected your last savings, that asked for all your money for your child to be educated in his school, that would not build or promote medical science or hospitals yet would use them when ill is the Pro-christ abi?

The Bible didn't condemn the drinking of wine, it rather condemned drunkenness. Our Lord Jesus Christ turned water to wine, he also gave his disciples wine to drink during the last supper. He wouldn't have done that if drinking of wine is actually evil. If drinking a glass of beer or any drink intoxicates you, as a Christian, please avoid it

Abjay97:
Were you there to verify if the wine was alcoholic?

the director of the feast asked the groom why kept the good one for the last when everyone was intoxicated already.

read your Bible Nigerian's. you will definitely be set free

Wetin concern Pa Adeboye for this matter.

Jesus himself drank wine until he was called a drunkard

Matthew 11:18-19 New International Version (NIV)

18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’ 19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”

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that picture of Johnpaul ii smoking is photoshopped and not real