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Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 10:29am On Apr 17, 2018 |
[img][/img] ![]() Is this what missile intercepts look like? (AP Photo/Hassan Ammar) Photos of the missile strike launched by the US, the UK, and France on targets in Syria on Friday night appear to show the Syrian defenses firing blindly in a wild and most likely failed attempt to intercept the missiles. Before the strike — launched in response to what the US and its allies say was a chemical attack orchestrated by the Syrian government on Syrian civilians — Russia had threatened to shoot down US missiles heading for Syria and then attack the platforms that launched them. A retired Russian admiral elaborated on that threat, saying Russia would sink the USS Donald Cook with a torpedo if it fired on Syria. Despite being in the area, the Cook didn't fire a shot — and it possibly served as a distraction while cruise missiles poured in from ships, submarines, and jets in an attack that the Pentagon says succeeded in that each hit. But Russia and Syria begged to differ, saying missile defenses took out 71 of the 105 missiles fired. Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, confirmed that Russian guns and missiles remained silent during the strike on Friday, according to the Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson. Tomlinson added that Dunford said the only response was the Syrian military's firing surface-to-air missiles after the strike — to no effect. The US maintains that Syria fired its missiles after the strike, possibly in an attempt to save face. "Most of the launches occurred after our strike was over," US Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie, the Joint Staff director, said of Syria's interceptor fires. "When you shoot iron into the air without guidance, it has to come down somewhere." Russia fields some of the world's best air defenses in Syria, but Syria itself has older platforms with limited capability. And an expert told Business Insider it looked like a big miss on Friday. Take a look at this photo: ![]() Notice the streaks of light coming from hills around Damascus, Syria's capital — these are most likely Syria's missile defense sites, which would be why the missiles appear to be taking off from Damascus, whereas the US and allies' missiles were rushing toward it. In every picture of the interceptors, they appear to take a ballistic trajectory — or a smooth, arched path. "The trajectory that I've seen from footage of reported Syrian SAMs don't match up with what I'd expect to see for intercept attempts against low-flying cruise missiles," Justin Bronk, an air-combat expert at the Royal United Services Institute, told Business Insider. "I don't believe the Russian/Syrian intercept claims." In fact, the Syrian defenses appear to have fired blind. If the missiles had targets, they look to have failed to maneuver toward them. Normally, an interceptor missile doesn't fly on a smooth arc and would instead whip around quickly to find and collide with the missiles. If the Syrian defenses fired after the US-led strike, it would make sense that they would have no target and fly uninterrupted. "We fully expect a significant disinformation campaign over the coming days by those who have aligned themselves with the Assad regime," Secretary of Defense James Mattis told reporters after the strike. Satellite imagery after the attack appeared to show the US had hit its three targets. For comparison, look at how the US and allies' cruise missiles flew in a swerving pattern as they stalked their way to a target, and imagine how an interceptor would have had to maneuver in the air to catch one. This image has some distortion on the lights, likely due to a long exposure, but still shows the non-linear path of the missile. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Olalan(m): 10:34am On Apr 17, 2018 |
The Syrian army would not be able to match the western allies force in terms of precision and sophistication |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 10:41am On Apr 17, 2018 |
Olalan:I am telling you. Syrian air defence was just mis-firing and no evidence of collission in air |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by OAUTemitayo: 10:45am On Apr 17, 2018 |
The way you people lie is amazing.
You used 103 missiles to destroy 3 buildings ![]() It is pretty obvious most of the missiles were shot down. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 10:50am On Apr 17, 2018 |
OAUTemitayo:i have watched many videos uploaded on nairaland about the interception and i have never seen any video showing how 73 missiles were shot down. if you have any video to prove your claim, please do upload it. see one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfg-zVDliA |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by JUHABACH: 10:53am On Apr 17, 2018 |
Patriot9: yet so many people here will be buying into their propaganda. smh. they should go and bring their s400 so we can see if it truly lives up to the hype. |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 10:59am On Apr 17, 2018 |
JUHABACH:S400 was taking nap while tomahawk was doing the job ![]() Firefighrers extinguish smoke that rises from the damage of the Syrian Scientific Research Center which was attacked by U.S., British and French military strikes to punish President Bashar Assad for suspected chemical attack against civilians, in Barzeh, near Damascus, Syria, on April 14, 2018. (Hassan Ammar / AP)
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by heendrix(m): 11:04am On Apr 17, 2018 |
Russia been chest beating since 19BC only reason assad is still there is cause trump isn't really serious about removing him the truth is they all need a place to test their develop armory and artillery |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 11:05am On Apr 17, 2018 |
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 11:06am On Apr 17, 2018 |
OAUTemitayo:The air strikes were launched against three targets, Each involved in Syria’s poison gas program. The first was the Barzah Research and Development Center, located on the outskirts of Damascus. According to Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford, Barzah was, “a center for research, development, production and testing of chemical and biological agents The photo below shows Firefighrers extinguish smoke that rises from the damage of the Syrian Scientific Research Center which was attacked by U.S., British and French military strikes to punish President Bashar Assad for suspected chemical attack against civilians, in Barzeh, near Damascus, Syria, on April 14, 2018. (Hassan Ammar / AP)
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Just30: 1:14pm On Apr 17, 2018 |
heendrix:the only reason A sad is still there and Syria is still on the map is because Russia has protected them . The US is only throwing tantrums because it knows it has lost that war. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by SternProphet: 7:52pm On Apr 17, 2018 |
OAUTemitayo: Bunkers and chemical complexes of many buildings |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Whyem15: 9:59pm On Apr 17, 2018 |
US won't launch strikes on locations without getting satellite images of the destroyed objectives, so far, only 3 buildings have been showed to be destroyed, Western journalists in Syria have not been able to come up with more than 3 photographs, My question is, how many missiles were launched and how many targets? Don't forget that Britain alone launched 11 storm shadow missiles. |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by jnhmaxxwell: 9:14am On Apr 19, 2018 |
OAUTemitayo: Simple logic is required here and you are right. You have too much of brainwashed people that only follow same western fake news. 1 tomahawk missile is between (500kg-1500kg). Just 10 is too much to destroy each targets in the photo being shared by the invader. 10 per target would be too much and one would see a large crater (a dip hole formed) on the ground. This honestly was not seen if we assume it was 10 per target which is 30 in total needed. This is simple logic, very simple primary one calculation. So what happened to the remaining missiles ? If you fire an interceptor and it does not hit target, the interceptor will fly back to the ground on the earth and explode. Interceptor does not explode in the air. What is happening in the air is the missile exploding on contact. See example of just 9 missiles hit here in the video to see for yourself what it means to send about (500kg-1000kg) note that 1000lb = 453kg missile to a place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilo2wxk_KMA Start @1:10 The Barzeh 'scientific research center' isn't really a 'scientific research center'. First and foremost, it is a University called the 'Higher Institute for Applied Science and Technology' (HIAST): "HIAST was established in 1983. Its aim is to qualify personnel in order to conduct scientific and technological research in all applied sciences and technology fields, so they can participate in the scientific and economic process in Syria. HIAST provides opportunities to make progress in applied research fields by joining courses to be awarded the degree of engineering Diploma, Master and Doctorate." ![]() As part of their 'reporting' on the US government claim that this university housed a "chemical weapons facility", the media reproduced satellite images showing the target area before and after the missile strike. These images were provided to the media by the US government. ![]() HIAST campus before ![]() HIAST Campus after Maybe grainy satellite images are preferred by the media because it affords a measure of mystique and distance between the reader and the reality of what they are looking at, but I can't understand why Western media hacks didn't just go to Google Maps and check the HIAST campus out themselves. Below is an image of the general area of the HIAST campus from Google Maps, where you can see that it's located on the outer edge of the Barzeh district of Damascus. The "chemical weapons lab", part of the campus that was targeted by US missiles, is circled in red. ![]() Look again at the area that the buildings occupied. 76 cruise missiles, each with a 1,000lb warhead, are said to have hit those 3 buildings, only partly demolishing them. That's 35 tons of high-grade military explosives. For comparison, see the video above of just 9 1,000lb(453kg) bombs hitting a building that covers roughly the same surface area as the HIAST buildings: 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 1:37pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
jnhmaxxwell:I have no time to argue. You should have embarked on thorough research before coming online with one-sided image and lame view. Please dnt tell me it is photoshop, well call it whatever you like but the truth remains. Below is the Satellite image of BEFORE and AFTER the missiles strike on one of the Research Centers.
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by jnhmaxxwell: 3:03pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Patriot9: There is no point arguing with you since you shared the aftermath of the missile strike. According to the lies. 76 Cruise missile that targeted the area and the remnants is the picture you sent ? That is a big lie, the biggest lie ever. See the photo you shared bellow, I have attached it. 73 missiles would have caused a large crater and you will see it in the satellite images. Even 10 missiles would still show a very large crater on the ground per 1000Lb. So there is no way 73 missiles was sent there. Again that is a lie. This now lead us back to what Russia is saying, that other targets were being targeted and the missiles were shot down. Yes, shot down. This is true in any case. That is the point. We are just saying use logic this time to understand the truth. Syria: Center for 'Scientific Research' in Barzeh After Airstrikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcA0cIx8WPs Look again at the area that the buildings occupied. 76 cruise missiles, each with a 1,000lb warhead, are said to have hit those 3 buildings, only partly demolishing them. That's 35 tons of high-grade military explosives. For comparison, see the video again above of just 9 1,000lb bombs hitting a building that covers roughly the same surface area as the HIAST buildings: The two other areas allegedly targeted by US cruise missiles were to the west of Homs. A "centre for sarin gas production" and a "command post" or a "bunker" (or something like that. It might have been a cow shed). ![]() Now it's time for some 'before and after', not very close up, grainy satellite photos, courtesy of the media (courtesy of the US government) of the two areas shown above. Here's the "center of sarin gas production" site: ![]() "Sarin gas production site" target. West of Homs. Before ![]() And after Now that's some nice shooting there. I count maybe 4 or 5 impacts (small craters) on the ground there, and those 3 little buildings gone. Let's move on to the last of the 3 targeted sites. The "command post bunker" thingy, just a few miles up the road from the above image: ![]() "Command post bunker". West of Homs. Before ![]() After Not so good on this one. Looks like a single impact to the left of the target. The "chemical weapons command post bunker" thingy is, sadly, intact. So what's our tally? Let's be generous and give 9 x 1000lb cruise missiles to the HIAST campus buildings. Let's give 5 more to the "sarin gas production site" west of Homs, and 1 more to that little shed thingy above. That's 15 successful impacts in total, by the US government's own statements and imagery on the 3 targeted sites. But in the interest of impartiality and objectivity, I'll include the reports that the Mezzeh military airbase just south of Damascus was also hit by cruise missiles, as reported by the Syrian government. There is also a video clip published by Ruptly. Many Nigerians wont be able to watch the video because of Data, those outside Nigeria would be able to watch the video and understand what this means. Here is the update from number of missiles shot down. Duwali airbase - 4 missiles fired, 4 shot down Dumayr airbase - 12 missiles fired, 12 shot down Baley airbase - 18 missiles fired, 18 shot down Shayrat airbase - 12 missiles fired, 12 shot down Marj Ruhayyil airbase - 18 missiles fired, 18 shot down Damascus international airport - 4 missiles fired, 4 shot down 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Nobody: 6:21pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
No one can prove a missile shotdown even wif a video, 76 missile shotdown? |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by Patriot9: 3:28pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
jnhmaxxwell:save me the sermon. How could Syrian air defenses largely consisting of Cold War era air defense radars and missiles, launched only few surface-to-air missiles against the barrage of105 JASSM, Tomahawk, SCALP, and Storm Shadow missiles that struck targets. The mission was a huge success. It is no doubt but Putin could have used S-400 to take down those missiles but he wouldn't do that because he knew S-400 is just a piece of scrap metals ![]() Even the over-hype S-400 was sleeping like an tired giant, taking siesta while Missiles were raining in Syria ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thought S-400s were already there in Syria. What is the matter? Couldn't shoot down anything and If 75% of the cruise missiles have been "shot down" then I'd expect Moscow to shut up and drop the topic by now. However, it is starting to look like Russia's hype over how good it's missile defense systems are is just that. Hype. America's new missiles can evade Russia's best system. Putin would be better served to just become part of the world community. Putin is an incredibly intelligent guy. Why not just bring Russia into world acceotance. He always goes down the path of self destruction. ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by bigl: 1:29pm On Apr 30, 2018 |
And somefin tells me not all missiles fire were meant to explode. Some were decoys to awaken the SAM defense. Infact, a large no of such would be fired to confuse the SAM while the few missiles that would do the job will be sent just amongst those. So, russia/syria could be right: they shot down the decoys while the few bombs did their job. But u can be sure, US/other coalitions would never tell you the technicalities involved. They were adequately prepared for the russian s300, s400, s500, s600 and even s1000 SAM system which would be defeated by flooding the skies with decoys. Decoys that are cheap to manufacture. Trump was somehow right about the missiles coming in "smart". Do you have an idea how much 1tomahawk cruise missile costs US? And they would waste such amount on just 3 buildings? Think again. They've done this trick before and would do it again. Watch raytheon documentaries on how some of their missiles are build to work to defeat SAM defense systems. Lets wait and see how good the s500 is cos somefin else is going to come up and they would have to prove their worth |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by scully95: 2:43pm On Apr 30, 2018 |
[s] bigl:[/s] Do i need to copy and paste the same thing again. Stop this rubbish again.. If you type again after the proofs, i will slap you via this screen now... ![]() See update of the wreckages here again. https://www.nairaland.com/4461324/why-russia-suffer-enormous-defeat#67019758 Stop dreaming and wake up. The anglozionist empire stand no chance even against the syrian outdated airdefense syste, not to talk of Russian. Lol Anglozionist wannbe fanboys always find something to say.. Never gree. You lie lie media said all missile delivered. No one never said no missile struck.. What everyone is saying is 71 was shot down and see proof of some of them bellow. The Pentagon says that the US, the UK and France launched 105 missile on targets in Syria on April 14. According to the Pentagon, no missiles were intercepted and all of them hit their targets.Lie lie lie fake news. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Any system that can stop 75% of air raid is a super system. What if Syrian now gets S-300, they would stop 95% of the attack.. S-400 nko.. 99%.. Open your eyes again. the anglozoo stand no chance. [img]http://2.bp..com/-jVdow4VPFZ4/WuB6jak54CI/AAAAAAABUKo/SrfDJU3zqP8xeheq2gN7rKuXRp7diVwvgCLcBGAs/s640/4.jpg[/img] Let me send more pics.. For those looking for proofs. This is proof again. [img]http://2.bp..com/-7YG2POhElOM/WuB6jeywitI/AAAAAAABUKk/NEnLqI2q9zc1cTtiSK2W8X_gszA2FAy6ACLcBGAs/s640/5.jpg[/img] Open your eyes and see it very well. No need to lie again or continue living in denial. Many were shouting proof proof of wreckage.. This is some of them.. Even after seeing video of the missile going kaboom on air exploding. [img]http://4.bp..com/-1L4P9MsbhL4/WuB6jtEcn9I/AAAAAAABUKs/sc_5fpZKUFoIwKarDn1z63JnDnc6aQnWgCLcBGAs/s640/6.jpg[/img] See bigger one [img]http://1.bp..com/-CgYKivNUSPs/WuB6kZq4PEI/AAAAAAABUKw/YSFEXi10u8kOXK8E1zafCYxffE3U7KvnACLcBGAs/s640/7.jpg[/img] Another new one [img]http://2.bp..com/-navKETm22i0/WuB6kk0lnoI/AAAAAAABUK0/lJBkquZjWPsmflzGKAWfwQLlkX7Wl2A5ACLcBGAs/s640/8.jpg[/img] Another one [img]http://4.bp..com/-Qjk8UW9nsTw/WuB6lEquvlI/AAAAAAABUK4/jgALyujHHu8wmOzqlK5ftaARZE1rdaSGQCLcBGAs/s640/9.jpg[/img] All these anglozoo terrorist wannbe fanboiz, baby boko haramites should shutup now ok. Proof here..
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Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by bigl: 6:36pm On Apr 30, 2018 |
scully95: So, by simply showing shrapnels of tomahawk cruise missiles and labelling it, that's your proof, abi? I'm not surprised anyway. You're brainwashed by russian propaganda. This is the reason I really don't comment on NL cause I don't have time for argument. Believe ruskies at your own risk. |
Re: Proofs that Missile Interceptors Fired Blindly, Failing To Stop US Missiles by scully95: 7:22pm On May 01, 2018 |
bigl: Shut up joo.. See them.. They were shouting proof proof proof proof proof proof.. Which other proof do you need asside the wreckages of the shot down missiles... All these wannabe anglozoo fanboiz self. Even your wardlord anglozionist empire itself has not denied the super proof above. This crook is saying Brainwash.. At first there were live videos showing the missile going poof on air. Crooks like you were asking for proofs.. Now see the proof by any military standard... 71 missiles were defeated. Many of it were shot down. There were videos showing it going poof on air, intercepted and now wreckages ok. Even if the bomb exomploded on target you will still see Proofs of the kind of bomb used but not in the unit above.. it will be smaller. Crooks saying brainwash., Who is your mate here. Abeg get away with your Propaganda up and down, fake news and lies. You have seen proof above. Big proof.. Massive undeniable one. Big one. Lol Crook is saying Brainwash.. Which brainwash is in this proof again?? Without even showing the wreckages, the proof is even in what the drunken general said.. How can you use 107 missiles to destroy 3 targets.. Kilode ? What sort of rubbish lie is that.. And the 3rd target is even in shape full shape, like nothing happened.. Then comes how the liars will share 107 into 3 targets.. 32 in one.. 32 in one.. RUbbish lies. Have you seen 450Kg explosion before ?. Without even waiting for the shut down wreckages, the proof is in what the general revealed from the so called satalite images. Common sense here. Now super proof is here again. showing unexploded missiles and intercepted ones. Then this one says brainwash and the other time said Decong ![]() 1 Like |
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