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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by MissRaine69(f): 8:29pm On Apr 19, 2018
Not everyone who studies medicine makes an excellent doctor. Many view medicine only from the academic perspective. Some manage on completion to leave Nigeria and come here and this is when they realise there is more to medicine than being an academic . I have seen many struggle with the concept of bedside manners. You are not an island you work as a team abroad no one cares which tribe you come from and team work is alien to some. Some end up being struck off for very basic things. I saw a post about career guidance counselling in schools and that is an excellent idea. We all can’t be engineers and doctors and most don’t last in that career.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by tensazangetsu20(m): 8:31pm On Apr 19, 2018
streamsofjoy:


Me I no know o, I just dey talk ni o, na as God go take distinguish me for my own field I dey pray.
Law is the worst in Nigeria. I rather my son goes to school and does Russian languages than study law. Law is a very useless profession. No female from my family will marry a lawyer cursed profession.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by streamsofjoy(f): 8:33pm On Apr 19, 2018
tensazangetsu20:

Law is the worst in Nigeria. I rather my son goes to school and does Russian languages than study law. Law is a very useless profession. No female from my family will marry a lawyer cursed profession.

Owkay.
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Dracula07(m): 8:38pm On Apr 19, 2018
That's the reality but not the complete truth - it depends on your perspective - that the medical profession is what it is now in Nigeria does not say that those aspiring to study the course should be discouraged - Medicine is a noble profession in the world over it's just quite unfortunate that it has become denigrated in Nigeria - Let our opinions be guided by reason not sentiments. Cheers

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by streamsofjoy(f): 8:50pm On Apr 19, 2018
Just finding reasons to comment. Well, my take is this, the idea of studying medicine is misconstrued. A medical doctor is well respected not Becos of the money he has but Becos he is like God- has the ability to make u "whole " if u are sick, and this is why they are well respected. But the Nigerian greed mentality has reduced the profession to a money making Avenue and that is why every Nigerian parent wants to train a doctor by all means.
If u're looking for money please go into business dnt study medicine, and at this juncture, I dare to say that a lawyer (SAN) who has reached the peak of his career is richer than a doctor of same standing.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by yassinattah(m): 9:02pm On Apr 19, 2018
Originalsly:
Hmmm...is it worth the attention? If you become a doctor today.... where would you be working?...how much would be your salary?...is it worth the time and money spent to get to this point?... and finally...is there a bright road ahead?
Not saying being a doctor is not important...but this is the 21st century... in the information age... doctors are no longer all knowing..... their diagnosis and prescriptions can easily be challenged by clients...thanks to Google. Wayyy more people self diagnose..... and find treatments on their own.
The ever increasing number of new drugs and ones becoming obsolete make it necessary for a doctor to never stop studying nor updating his knowledge. Not only drugs. ..but also equipment and medical procedures. What a doctor learns in his first two years...by the time he becomes a full doctor.... all that is obsolete. ..and we wonder why sooo many of our doctors and surgeons are passed over for any serious condition....lack of up to date info...lack of proper equipment..lack of efficient support staff. If it's the person's life long passion......then doctor is worth it.
Should someone today ask me what field to get into...auto mechanics.....lots of new cars ..outdated mechanics. Elevator repairs...refrigeration. ..these are skills that are in great demand...and the demand will be growing.
U see ur comments above portrays a bit of hate,aggression and dislike to medicine and surgery entirely.
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by yassinattah(m): 9:05pm On Apr 19, 2018
Originalsly:
Hmmm...is it worth the attention? If you become a doctor today.... where would you be working?...how much would be your salary?...is it worth the time and money spent to get to this point?... and finally...is there a bright road ahead?
Not saying being a doctor is not important...but this is the 21st century... in the information age... doctors are no longer all knowing..... their diagnosis and prescriptions can easily be challenged by clients...thanks to Google. Wayyy more people self diagnose..... and find treatments on their own.
The ever increasing number of new drugs and ones becoming obsolete make it necessary for a doctor to never stop studying nor updating his knowledge. Not only drugs. ..but also equipment and medical procedures. What a doctor learns in his first two years...by the time he becomes a full doctor.... all that is obsolete. ..and we wonder why sooo many of our doctors and surgeons are passed over for any serious condition....lack of up to date info...lack of proper equipment..lack of efficient support staff. If it's the person's life long passion......then doctor is worth it.
Should someone today ask me what field to get into...auto mechanics.....lots of new cars ..outdated mechanics. Elevator repairs...refrigeration. ..these are skills that are in great demand...and the demand will be growing.
U comments above portrays a bit of hate,anger and bitterness towards the medical profession.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Yonce(f): 9:08pm On Apr 19, 2018
CandidNotes:
Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize.


Thank you for this!

All criticism on this thread and no encouragement whatsoever undecided

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Adejoncy01(m): 9:12pm On Apr 19, 2018
yeyerolling:
but when they go to uk or canada they can make over 150k usd. abegi its worth it
And Other Courses Pay Far More Than That! Chem.Eng. Is An Example.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Nobody: 9:15pm On Apr 19, 2018
Adejoncy01:
And Other Courses Pay Far More Than That! Chem.Eng. Is An Example.
are u practising chem.eng abroad that u know how much they pay. medical haters
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by dumodust(m): 9:18pm On Apr 19, 2018
CandidNotes:
Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize.
very candid indeed... band of failures, like if any other profession on the average is doing any better in Nigeria, NYSC is the usual eye opener of what is to come.
Most people have great expectations of medicine and think you are ordained with an endless bag of money buried in a pit behind your house when you graduate from medical school which is unfortunate grin
Medicine has its goods and bad sides, the business side and the slave side depending on your level and hustle but generally it moulds character and makes you more calm, analytical, critical and patient, qualities that if channeled properly can lead to success in other spheres when you realize that just working and working for accolades is a bad deal in the end.
all in all, it is a good economic decision to read medicine... you are always in the middle, you can go up... but you can never crawl down there for too long, unemployment rate is low in medicine

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by jaychubi: 9:18pm On Apr 19, 2018
streamsofjoy:


I put it to u that law is not worst lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Most young lawyers are suffering badly and highly under paid. Imagine an average young lawyer collecting 50k monthly to work in a Chambers dts poor

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Delivar(m): 9:20pm On Apr 19, 2018
cassidy1996:
medicine and surgery na hot cake for Niger, just tell any girl that you're a doctor, she go smile....

and once a girl is dating a medical doctor

next..... she will alert her family, friends and social media.... medical doctor on the way, make una clear road... levels don change
So you want to be a doctor cos of women?
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by stasius: 9:20pm On Apr 19, 2018
Many doctors know the profession is not as lucrative as hyped about initio.

It is not surprising to notice that most doctors are now entering into Politics. That's the koko in Nigeria now!!!

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by jaychubi: 9:22pm On Apr 19, 2018
streamsofjoy:
Just finding reasons to comment. Well, my take is this, the idea of studying medicine is misconstrued. A medical doctor is well respected not Becos of the money he has but Becos he is like God- has the ability to make u "whole " if u are sick, and this is why they are well respected. But the Nigerian greed mentality has reduced the profession to a money making Avenue and that is why every Nigerian parent wants to train a doctor by all means.
If u're looking for money please go into business dnt study medicine, and at this juncture, I dare to say that a lawyer (SAN) who has reached the peak of his career is richer than a doctor of same standing.

Certainly

SAN will be richer than consultant doctors

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by greenprince(m): 9:26pm On Apr 19, 2018
eleojo23:


How many of them will get to work in Canada or UK?

Let's be realistic...

Those countries are not very easy to enter like you portray it.

Thank you, help me tell them. Your degree from UNN or Unilag matters less here. Even a medical degree from the WHO accredited med school my university runs doesn't guarantee millions in your almighty Canada. You'll still sit for exams that are so expensive to even register for.

Seriously, I feel for my friends studying medical courses in Nigeria. If the fuel is truly not from within, the fire may go out too soon. It's frustrating and annoying. Someone with a jamb score 70 points lower than mine got admitted to study med in a fed uni in Nigeria and I wasn't even offered horticulture.
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by greenprince(m): 9:33pm On Apr 19, 2018
pxjosh:
Study Pharmacy and live like a king! cheesy grin

Be careful! cheesy

What's for a pharmacist in Nigeria?

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Adejoncy01(m): 9:33pm On Apr 19, 2018
organism3:

are u practising chem.eng abroad that u know how much they pay. medical haters
I Don't Need To Answer The Question.But That's The Reality!
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Apr 19, 2018
greenprince:


Thank you, help me tell them. Your degree from UNN or Unilag matters less here. Even a medical degree from the WHO accredited med school my university runs doesn't guarantee millions in your almighty Canada. You'll still sit for exams that are so expensive to even register for.

Seriously, I feel for my friends studying medical courses in Nigeria. If the fuel is truly not from within, the fire may go out too soon. It's frustrating and annoying. Someone with a jamb score 70 points lower than mine got admitted to study med in a fed uni in Nigeria and I wasn't even offered horticulture.
so is because u were not offered admission that u r now feeling for medical students now
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by pxjosh(m): 9:37pm On Apr 19, 2018
greenprince:


Be careful! cheesy

What's for a pharmacist in Nigeria?
A lootttt!!!
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by eleojo23: 9:42pm On Apr 19, 2018
MissRaine69:
Not everyone who studies medicine makes an excellent doctor. Many view medicine only from the academic perspective. Some manage on completion to leave Nigeria and come here and this is when they realise there is more to medicine than being an academic . I have seen many struggle with the concept of bedside manners. You are not an island you work as a team abroad no one cares which tribe you come from and team work is alien to some. Some end up being struck off for very basic things. I saw a post about career guidance counselling in schools and that is an excellent idea. We all can’t be engineers and doctors and most don’t last in that career.

The bedside manners is where most of them fail in this country and they are not ready to take correction.

They fail to realize that without the patient, all their knowledge is useless
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by CircleOfWilis: 9:42pm On Apr 19, 2018
Dnevasaynevaguy:

I also studied M&S.
Worked a couple of years ,took a break,
Delved into business as an experiment.Doing way much better than consultants in the hospital.
I can afford summer holidays with the family and what have you.
But it is important to state that what helps me most in business is my approach to problems like i was still in the hospital.
I always have a mamagement plan whenever i face crisis in business.
Medical thinking made me who i am now.


bro introduce me or give me a clue of the business u are into
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by greenprince(m): 9:50pm On Apr 19, 2018
organism3:
so is because u were not offered admission that u r now feeling for medical students now

Lol.... no. Far from that.
These guys are like brothers to me. The stress, annoying lecturers and harsh learning conditions is really discouraging. They tell me what they're going through and I know my problems are mere jokes compared to theirs. I just feel for them because after surviving all these, they'd still have to go through about 3-4 years of internship, NYSC torture and all that. The system is really discouraging.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Apr 19, 2018
yeyerolling:
but when they go to uk or canada they can make over 150k usd. abegi its worth it
mind you these countries see our certificates as useless, you have to start college all over again to become a doctor or anything else over there, not to talk of cost of going to medical school there na die be that
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by BiafranDel: 9:53pm On Apr 19, 2018
Stallion93:
Toh! Medicine and Law dan cast, well what should we expect in A Shithole country? I guess the way out now is to acquire some Computer(Hardware or software) skill and leave this country
you are hating for no reason. am sure you studied a meaningless course in school and now you are just trying to feel good about your certificate that wont fetch you any meaningful job in life. face your life. somebody else's career is not your business. medicine don cast, shey na you cast am. mr career guide analyst

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by nuello: 9:56pm On Apr 19, 2018
zagorakis:
Me am just tired of school, need to graduate anyhow
Words of a failure.. Change ur mindset.
he is not a failure I bet u haven't Had any traumatic experience especially in school That will Make u feel the way he feels. till u wear his shoes u won't know where it hurts

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Apr 19, 2018
organism3:
so what will u pple say about VETERINARY MEDICINE in Nigeria then?
it's only useful in areas where rich pet owners are plenty, and not only that, you'll need connections to work as vet maybe for an agricultural firm, people who usually do vet medicine end up having another business by the side,. If you don't have all these conditions right you'll end up treating ekuke for 500niara

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by msughdoo: 9:58pm On Apr 19, 2018
Pharmacy is worse. They earn far less than doctors in hospitals, and only a few find jobs there. Most are mere chemist owners (if they can afford to start chemist shops) or they work for uneducated chemist owners. How many pharmaceutical industries do we have in Nigeria and how many pharmacists work there?

pxjosh:
Study Pharmacy and live like a king! cheesy grin
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by nuello: 9:58pm On Apr 19, 2018
Tochyodiks:
mind you these countries see our certificates as useless, you have to start college all over again to become a doctor or anything else over there, not to talk of cost of going to medical school there na die be that
Hmm are u serious is it just medicine or every other field like pharmacy, Engineering,nursing etc as well
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by folake4u(f): 9:59pm On Apr 19, 2018
My church member has written Jamb for more than 2years now, always saying "Medicine and Surgery or nothing else". God help her this year.
Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Joclins: 9:59pm On Apr 19, 2018
grin All courses in Nigeria are poo--not only medicine and surgery man.


You can go ahead and study biochemistry and see what Nigeria will offer you--private school teacher earning 10k/month grin grin...


You can even steep low to study fishery and see maybe you'll be better of the doctor you are yelling about....same with other courses. Even the ones that study engineering, goan ask dem what they've got after graduating... The problem is not the masses that wanto study MBBS but Nigeria itself...Go to India, you'll see the worst--they can die because of engineering there! what is medicine wahala here compared to India engineering... bros forget... Find better course for Nigeria and be on the safer part than to, because of stress, study a course that no one will stimulate ur nose with even teaching job!

All courses and all jobs in Nigeria are hazardous, annoying, stressful...No good payment self.


Naija now, u study medicine oh, u no study medicine oh, na to get better head and favor or else you will rot in reality!!! grin grin




Proud to be A Doctor. A.

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Re: Medicine And Surgery: Is It Worth The Attention It Gets? by Basic123: 10:00pm On Apr 19, 2018
Tochyodiks:
mind you these countries see our certificates as useless, you have to start college all over again to become a doctor or anything else over there, not to talk of cost of going to medical school there na die be that
ha ha

This is ignorance at it's peak! grin

what you said up there na big lie

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