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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 8:08pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
rvp2017: Kenya manufacturing industry bigger than Nigeria's? Mr. Google pls show us proof.. Let's see the data of ur country's manufacturing industry |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 8:15pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
I can't find any Kenyan company on this list... ...Or is it the usual "cooked data" ? http://www.africaranking.com/biggest-companies-in-africa/5/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 8:25pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Despite the huge recession in 2016 and other calamities brought on the country by bubu's government, our export still ranked well on the continent... yea,there was a sharp decease and stuff but as at 2016, Nigeria's export value was 35.5billion USD well below south Africa's, but far far fat ahead of the big mouthed folks from the far east .Heck! even Ghana topped them..and Tanzania too Before Mr Google calls it "cooked figures", the sources of the data are included... .. http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-african-export-countries/
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 8:34pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
1) Export of what? Oil? Oil is like 95% of you export and revenues remember 2) How can we objectively compare kenya and Nigeria - when you source data [nigeria stats] is COOKED? Danielnino00: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 8:36pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Because most of Nigeria data is OBVIOUSLY over-cooked and unreliable (and that unfortunately is what everyone -wb/imf/cia- has to relie on); we have to find secondary sources of data to compare. One good example we can use is AGOA. Both Kenya and Nigeria are allowed duty free export to US market for many products (300 plus) under AGOA (Africa Growth and Opportuntiy Act) and it's good way to compare Kenya and Nigeria manufacturing. Remove Oil from Nigeria's AGOA trade - and there is nothing. Remove Angola, Gabon and Nigeria Oil from AGOA - and Kenya leads sub-saharan Africa in exporting MANUFACTURED GOODS to the US of A under AGOA- never mind Nigeria is on the Atlantic and is nearer US of A. Kenya's apparel export under AGOA is huge - so much the jeans you buy in NewYork is probably made in kenya. We are not talking chicken shiet siju Abu or ODU or whatever "manufacturing" - that re-packages chinese finished products in Lagos and distribute them. We are talking Kenyans making the Calvin Klein you will spend a fortune to buy in New york or California. This is why your shie.t "manufacturers" cannot countenance free africa trade ---and are crying like small babies - yet officially they claim to be giant. Open up your market - and kenyan goods will flood your supermarket (the few you've got - that aren't already RSA dominated) - way more quality for way cheaper prices. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:39pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Danielnino00:1738 messages from 22 chats and 84 tabs. . Oga, wetin happen?? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 9:06pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Actually AGOA allows 6500 products from Africa to access USA market DUTY FREE and Nigeria just like banana republic Gabon, Chad and Angola can only sell OIL duty free to US. Nothing value-added. Just crude OIL. And they talk of manufacturing. Nigeria can only export crude oil - worth 3B dollars..while KENYA IS ON ITS WAY TO NEARLY 1B dollars worth of value-added export to US - mostly manufactured - never mind the distance. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:34pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: I say in nigeria we do not have industries. In 2016 are industrial outputs was 18% of gdp today what is less than 12%. the industries we have do not manufacture all they do is import in bulk and repackage not manufacturing. A good example is powdered milk, butter, salts, cooking oil and a lot more are imported in bulk and repackaged in nigeria. South africa, kenya, ethiopia, ghana, zimbabwe all exports more to us them we export to them. The industries and not there they're just repackaging warehouses. See article below. https://www.statista.com/statistics/382311/nigeria-gdp-distribution-across-economic-sectors/ 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 9:46pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Absolutely on point - it's merely repackaging - finished chinese goods. zero value addition. That is why they are scared of Africa Free Trade. sufferNsmiling: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:51pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
rvp2017: rvp2017 Most of we nigerians are stack illiterate we know nothing about building a country or developing a country what we know is the lies which are politicians feed to us day and night and then we start telling ourselves we know how to build a country why are children run to other countries like termites and soldier ants. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:28pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Danielnino00:Even Tanzania exported more than the stupiid kenyattas. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Bifwoli: 10:45pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: No no that's a major lie from a fake "kitchen" economist. Norway ,Sweden ,Netherlands etc have large GDP's yet they have small populations. High or low Productivity based on the big factor of human development is the real determinant of how large a GDP can be.Don't let a huge GDP like India's or Philippines fools you coz those nations are low productivity GDP 's. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:35pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
shervydman: Most of those messages are from the Numidia WhatsApp groups I belong to... Mostly football groups that contain fans from many part of the world,Kenya inclusive. trust me I get a lot of stories about the country from there... . the ones flexing muscles here are very patriotic As for the tabs,I hardly close my browsing tabs... I simply open a new one even when the old one is not in use |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:48pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
This Rvp guy is a pathetic liar... He says Kenya exports finished goods! what goods? The links below are data of Kenya export including it's top destination...maybe the data was cooked by Nigerians...While Kenya's main export destination is Uganda, somebody is talking about the US http://www.worldstopexports.com/kenyas-top-10-exports/ https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ken/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:12am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Danielnino00: Tanzanians exporting more than us? Wt heck! They are our punching bags. It must be the minerals |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:33am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Muafrika2: TayserMahiri: Seriously, the way Kenyans boast ehn, one would think Kenya is a technological advanced country like Japan. Good to know that we are in an age of data and facts. Kenyans always get embarrased when facts are put forward. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:01am On Apr 21, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling: That's sad. I thought these were Nigerian products. Not even gari |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:07am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Danielnino00:Am pretty sure you only exported oil, |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:28am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse:Check the highlight from OPEC. 95% of Nigerian revenue is oil So, I guess the remaining 5% comes from PAYE And export of repackaged goods? 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:16am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Bifwoli:Try to understand the point. Norway, Sweden, Netherlands would have had even larger gdp's if they had larger populations. The countries you mentioned are all wealthier than lndia on the average but they have lesser GDP to that of lndia. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:21am On Apr 21, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:l wonder how the article supports your assertion above. You generalize too much, give me facts. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 6:28am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Danielnino00:They will tell you it's a cooked data just to console themselves |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:29am On Apr 21, 2018 |
rvp2017:Nigerian stats is cooked, then go cook yours, boil it and add ingredients |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:36am On Apr 21, 2018 |
rvp2017:When you have no answer, all you cry is cooked data. lt's getting stale already. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:11am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Muafrika2:Lol, where did u see 95%? The statement before ur selected statement says "oil is 35% of Nigeria's GDP" can u explain to rvp2017 what that means? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:13am On Apr 21, 2018 |
How will that help us? You don't eat cooked stats. I have given you a good example - AGOA - let us compare what you export and what we do? Daejoyoung: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:15am On Apr 21, 2018 |
I saw over 90% - well it could be 91% or 95% or 99% - but basically you export only CRUDE OIL (and maybe kola nuts?) - nothing more. You have no manufacturing base. You're a classic banana african country that relies on minerals - and whose economy tank with global commodity prices. shervydman: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:46am On Apr 21, 2018 |
rvp2017:U have a very big issue and it's heartbreaking. Forgetting d % part of the discuss. How many African countries are into manufacturing? when I talk about "manufacturing"; I mean "heavy manufacturing". Do u have a manufacturing base in Kenya? . Most light manufacturers in Africa are foreign companies. Even ur mobius automobile is owned by a briton. False?? Countries with huge mineral deposit relies on the mineral resources as a source of revenue. U can check anywhere in d world with huge mineral deposit that has large industrial output, I'll wait. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:57am On Apr 21, 2018 |
Again you questions have already been answered. In Africa - South Africa, Egypt, Morroco and Kenya have decent manufacturing base - I think Ethiopia is not badly off now with their relentless bid to attract Chinese- and maybe we can add Nigeria or Dangote impressive cement monopoly in Nigeria.Sudan also a decent manufacturing. African trade remains centred on the three countries that have an appreciable manufacturing base — South Africa, Kenya and Egypt. https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-second-largest-exporter-of-goods-within-Comesa/996-3419400-13mktt7z/index.html shervydman: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:00am On Apr 21, 2018 |
rvp2017:Pls, tell me what is being manufactured in those aforementioned countries. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 8:02am On Apr 21, 2018 |
African trade remains centred on the three countries that have an appreciable manufacturing base — South Africa, Kenya and Egypt. Egypt - the main exporter of consumer goods within COMESA. Kenya - the second exporter of consumer goods in COMESA & leading in AGOA. South Africa - SADC and most of Africa - source of consumer goods & even machinery. Nigeria - is crying within ECOWAS - that small countries like Togo or Benin are out-compete them? And is now afraid to join the big boys in Africa Free Trade Pact. What a shame. shervydman: |
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