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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Proudlyngwa(m): 7:49am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

You and I know say you de talk this one make e de easy for Buhari

Bros I no get time to vote anybody, unless the person give me written assurance usable against him granting local government full autonomy from States.

Without local government, no development.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Afamed: 7:51am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

The issue of LGA elections will not stop until the powers to conduct that election is transferred to INEC
Even if is transferred to INEC, the PDP primary rigging machinery will not make it work. If PDP could not conduct a fair primary councillorship Election, that means they have a long way to go.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by hakimi1974(m): 7:55am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Oga PDP remains the only party that is firmly rooted in every nooks and crannies of the 774 LGAs that makes up Nigeria.

Election for Presidency is different from Big Brother Naija contest, this one has to do with grassroots and PDP is the ONLY party that is known by all Nigerians.
why wont they be known "worldwide", anini was known all over the nation for his notoriety in stealing and spraying of his loot after every successfull operation. just go to all the 774 l.g.a and holla p.d.p, the reply you go hear nah SHARE THE MONEY. awon OLE, thieves, BABAN BARAWO, NDI OSHI. p.d.p? never again in this nation. the after taste of p.d.p misrule and thievery is still fresh in our taste bud.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Afamed: 7:56am On Apr 22, 2018
menxer:


@bolded, How did PDP get to this point after 16 years in power and the economy was booming?

kindly ignore him. They need to share again in the steady growing of our foreign reserve hence, someone is even talking of bringing GEJ back to power.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by BetaThings: 7:57am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
What's my business with IPOB.

You have the same ethno-religious instincts like IPOB

DonPiiko:
I was born in Lagos, grew up there and currently live in the North so I am basically a true Nigerian.

All the above don't make you a true Nigerian
A true Nigerian does not indulge in divisive antics

DonPiiko:
The Afonja Muslims all over are always quick to overdo and support people who treat them as inferior, that's my observation.
Why should they listen to somebody who hates them? Would you?
If you were truly concerned about them, you would advise them, rather than hate them

Anyway who treats them as inferior? You just love to pit the Muslims in the North against their brothers in the South
Anyway the argument that Yoruba Musims love their oppressors is used against the entire Yoruba

People forget that the NW and SW were oppressed by Jonathan in his first term and they just want them to vote for him for 2nd term
There was no service chief from the NW throughout the Jonathan years

DonPiiko:
You guys should continue supporting a grandfather to wreck the country, no matter what happens some of us will still survive. It's people like you there give N-Power jobs and you sing their praises
Hahaha
The North wants to work with everybody and will respect all - SW, SS, SE if they will open their hearts
Wrong reading of people. Who told you I am an N-Power beneficiary and will not survive abolition of handouts
I hate this pretentious democracy - we need a Kagame

Let me also make something clear to you now - I was created by Allah and my provision comes from Him
If oil in ND dries up, it does not matter to me; if a dictator shuts down all the oil wells, good!
If we want to make 36 countries out of the 36 states, I have no problem with that
I am a Muslim, I believe in divorce; it is Christians that hate divorce and spread hate within it

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by papoudaupolos: 7:58am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
I have my PVC to send your grandfather hero back to Daura
I don't even need anything to do same to ur lazy grandpa.

Diffrence btwn lazy and hardworking grandpa.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by BetaThings: 8:00am On Apr 22, 2018
tuniski:

Are you a south Korean?

No,
But are democracy, presidential system of government etc Nigerian "things"?

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Omololu2121: 8:00am On Apr 22, 2018
socialmediaman:


Is that really smart? If the objective is to vote out the current government why waste your vote and keep him in office? His supporters are not divided
I will rather vote for buhari than vote for any PDP candidate.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by BetaThings: 8:00am On Apr 22, 2018
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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Reference(m): 8:03am On Apr 22, 2018
Mr Tonye, there is no doubt you may be right about the man and his potentials but the problem I have is that.... this is April 2018. This time in 13 months, this government will have ended. For a country as large and as complex as this. With more challenges bedevilling it more than ever before don't you think it is too late in the day for a new person to take charge in 13 months time.

The major problem we have today is of a government that was ill prepared for governance. That paid so much attention to the wedding at the detriment of the marraige. The issue is not about selecting a candidate, then electing him to power but how prepared the person is to rule. When an important new technology is proposed, what developers do is to test run it and if successful, certify it before placing it on the market. The Nigerian situation calls for more than a test run. I am dead sure if you ask Nigerians today if they donot mind changing the constitution to void the swearing in and rather have a potential president do a 3 month probation before approval, they will jump at that because 4 years is too much risk to bet on a person WHO HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE JOB HE WANTS TO TAKE UP IN 13 MONTHS TIME. The biggest job of his life and the most important job in Nigeria.

Any one who aspires to lead Nigeria who by now HAS NOT STARTED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT HOW HE INTENDS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES WE FACE CANNOT BE SERIOUS. And in all honesty I donot give a damn about whether INEC has blown the whistle to commence open campaigns or not. Because this is not an issue of campaigns but one of interaction, the sharing of ideas, the presentation of proposals, the genuine critique of the present system. Campaigns we know are just about vague promises. Campaigns are for ignorant, gullible folks. Campaigns are just intoxicating political jamborees. The real issues, the philisophy, the belief, the pathway must be marked clearly now.

If Makarfi wants the seat we want to know him like yesterday and if him and others will play hide and seek till a minute before elections it is far better we stick with President Buhari. Nigerian politics is notorious for empowering the unable and unwilling and I am beginning to suspect that you Tonye wants to drag a certain Makarfi kicking and screaming to the ballot paper. This is dead wrong.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:03am On Apr 22, 2018
hakimi1974:
makarfi is an excellent choice no doubt, but the kind trepidation and fear wey i get for anything p.d.p word no go fit explain. p.d.p in this nation again? tufiakwa, allah ya kiaaye, olorun maje, God forbid bad thing. may that terror and nightmare called p.d.p never afflict this nation again. wasted 16 years of abundance, awon olori buruku.
Political parties don't fail, administrations do.

In Kogi APC is useless but in Lagos APC is fairly good.
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Afamed: 8:04am On Apr 22, 2018
BetaThings:

You have the same ethno-religious instincts like IPOB


All the above don't make you a true Nigerian
A true Nigerian does not indulge in divisive antics


Why should they listen to somebody who hates them? Would you?
If you were truly concerned about them, you would advise them, rather than hate them

Anyway who treats them as inferior? You just love to pit the Muslims in the North against their brothers in the South
Anyway the argument that Yoruba Musims love their oppressors is used against the entire Yoruba

People forget that the NW and SW were oppressed by Jonathan in his first term and they just want them to vote for him for 2nd term
There was no service chief from the NW throughout the Jonathan years


Hahaha
The North wants to work with everybody and will respect all - SW, SS, SE if they will open their hearts
Wrong reading of people. Who told you I am an N-Power beneficiary and will not survive abolition of handouts
I hate this pretentious democracy - we need a Kagame

Let me also make something clear to you now - I was created by Allah and my provision comes from Him
If oil in ND dries up, it does not matter to me; if a dictator shuts down all the oil wells, good!
If we want to make 36 countries out of the 36 states, I have no problem with that
I am a Muslim, I believe in divorce; it is Christians that hate divorce and spread hate within it
You really put him to where he belongs.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Nobody: 8:06am On Apr 22, 2018
You are an inferior Muslim, that's the summary of this debate. Even from your post
https://www.nairaland.com/4300611/gov-wike-set-up-christian

You are trying too hard to get the attention and recognition of true and genuine Muslims. Keep on supporting an uneducated grandfather that should be living in retirement. Afonja Muslims aren't attractive so once there see a woman that can marry them there worship the ground which she walks on.

The real classy Muslims are the ones that marry and divorce at will. I have some of them as my good and close friends.
BetaThings:

You have the same ethno-religious instincts like IPOB


All the above don't make you a true Nigerian
A true Nigerian does not indulge in divisive antics


Why should they listen to somebody who hates them? Would you?
If you were truly concerned about them, you would advise them, rather than hate them

Anyway who treats them as inferior? You just love to pit the Muslims in the North against their brothers in the South
Anyway the argument that Yoruba Musims love their oppressors is used against the entire Yoruba

People forget that the NW and SW were oppressed by Jonathan in his first term and they just want them to vote for him for 2nd term
There was no service chief from the NW throughout the Jonathan years


Hahaha
The North wants to work with everybody and will respect all - SW, SS, SE if they will open their hearts
Wrong reading of people. Who told you I am an N-Power beneficiary and will not survive abolition of handouts
I hate this pretentious democracy - we need a Kagame

Let me also make something clear to you now - I was created by Allah and my provision comes from Him
If oil in ND dries up, it does not matter to me; if a dictator shuts down all the oil wells, good!
If we want to make 36 countries out of the 36 states, I have no problem with that
I am a Muslim, I believe in divorce; it is Christians that hate divorce and spread hate within it
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:07am On Apr 22, 2018
menxer:


@bolded, How did PDP get to this point after 16 years in power and the economy was booming?

That's a question to the past chairmen and Financial Secretaries that held sway from 1998 to 2015
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by nairamaniac: 8:07am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Oga PDP remains the only party that is firmly rooted in every nooks and crannies of the 774 LGAs that makes up Nigeria.

Election for Presidency is different from Big Brother Naija contest, this one has to do with grassroots and PDP is the ONLY party that is known by all Nigerians.
Oga, they are telling you that PDP failed in all aspects of leadership and governance.
You are replying by saying they are rooted in every nooks&cranies of Nigeria bla bla bla".

Okay, let me put it better for you;

"PDP's FAILURES are rooted to every nooks&cranies of the 774 LGAs that make up Nigeria".

Are you happy now?

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Nobody: 8:10am On Apr 22, 2018
My grandfather was a very intelligent and successful politician in his prime, who left the stage for the younger ones when he advanced in age. Your grandfather is likely a nobody toiling hard under the sun to see where the next meal will come from. It's a pity you support one who has nothing to offer in order to be seen as a good Muslim, unfortunately you are a second class Muslim and no worshipping of real ones can change that.
papoudaupolos:

I don't even need anything to do same to ur lazy grandpa.

Diffrence btwn lazy and hardworking grandpa.
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by BetaThings: 8:11am On Apr 22, 2018
Proudlyngwa:


Bros I no get time to vote anybody, unless the person give me written assurance usable against him granting local government full autonomy from States

When you talk about written assurance, I was under the impression that you were going to talk about ironclad route to impeachment
No written assurance is enforceable after swearing in
You can think of securing that assurance now through legislation before the elections

I see a lot of youths supporting Saraki's moves on the election timetable
Can he and Dogara not do some wonderful things now? - scrap constituency allowance and use the money to employ over 100,000 youths
Do the math
They can also reduce their over N170m annual salary and use the savings to address empowerment, entrepreneurial education ansd skills building for youths
They should do things now - not after election when they will become untouchable

Proudlyngwa:
Without local government, no development.
Have you worked with LG officials?
If you gave them autonomy, we are dead! They are the most corrupt least accountable harm
They just share money - go near them and you will see what happens
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by malton: 8:14am On Apr 22, 2018
Baba, go chop your money in peace.

No come here dey try deceive people to mortgage their futures.
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by papoudaupolos: 8:14am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
My grandfather was a very intelligent and successful politician in his prime, who left the stage for the younger ones when he advanced in age. Your grandfather is likely a nobody toiling hard under the sun to see where the next meal will come from. It's a pity you support one who has nothing to offer in order to be seen as a good Muslim, unfortunately you are a second class Muslim and no worshipping of real ones can change that.
Lies. Show us your pic wit him

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Afamed: 8:15am On Apr 22, 2018
nairamaniac:

Oga, they are telling you that PDP failed in all aspects of leadership and governance.
You are replying by saying they are rooted in every nooks&cranies of Nigeria bla bla bla".

Okay, let me put it better for you;

"PDP's FAILURES are rooted to every nooks&cranies of the 774 LGAs that make up Nigeria".

Are you happy now?
Ignore him, he's always economical with the truth. His loyalty lies with PDP rather than the growth of Nigeria.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Boyooosa(m): 8:16am On Apr 22, 2018
Tonye, I wanted to ask why you wrote this until I read your nomenclature. It is not bad writing a good article for ur party neither bad to talk well of your opionionated candidate but I have a question for you: do we need recycled being as a front man in this country or a vibrant soldier? A soldier carries no literal meaning here, it just means; youthful, intelligent, smart, honest, disciplined and able to instil same. We don't need a democrat at this stage of our lives as a people, we need a law breaker that will break the gate of national assembly and arrest any criminal found wanting. We need an illegal arrestor of any judiciary member turning the pages of the constitution to his & his beneficiary's favour, without even going through the proceedings sef.
All these and more are the things that thrilled me of Buhari at the initial not until he entered expiry date... So we need a vibrant soldier! again.
If you are to present one from your party, we can start talking.
Peace!

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Nobody: 8:19am On Apr 22, 2018
I don't like to put my family on social media but I will post my granddads photo and I expect you to do the same
papoudaupolos:

Lies. Show us your pic wit him

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:20am On Apr 22, 2018
BetaThings:


When you talk about written assurance, I was under the impression that you were going to talk about ironclad route to impeachment
No written assurance is enforceable after swearing in
You can think of securing that assurance now through legislation before the elections

I see a lot of youths supporting Saraki's moves on the election timetable
Can he and Dogara not do some wonderful things now? - scrap constituency allowance and use the money to employ over 100,000 youths
Do the math
They can also reduce their over N170m annual salary and use the savings to address empowerment, entrepreneurial education ansd skills building for youths
They should do things now - not after election when they will become untouchable


Have you worked with LG officials?
If you gave them autonomy, we are dead! They are the most corrupt least accountable harm
They just share money - go near them and you will see what happens

By written assurance, I mean a legal tender with enough power after immunity expires, as only the useless house of assembly has the right to make laws that can lead to impeachment.


Local government had their powers taken away from them with the advent of '99 democracy, we have not witnessed their autonomy in this present democratic setting.
Moreover local government chairmen and workers don't have immunity and can be checkmate by councillors, state HOA members as well as federal House of rep members.

The governor should be mandated to publish how much each local government receives for a start, while the legislative babysit them.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:22am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
I don't like to put my family on social media but I will post my granddads photo and I expect you to do the same
And what do you aim to achieve with this, dragging with someone in an anonymous forum.
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by papoudaupolos: 8:22am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
I don't like to put my family on social media but I will post my granddads photo and I expect you to do the same
Allah I pity you.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:22am On Apr 22, 2018
Reference:
Mr Tonye, there is no doubt you may be right about the man and his potentials but the problem I have is that.... this is April 2018. This time in 13 months, this government will have ended. For a country as large and as complex as this. With more challenges bedevilling it more than ever before don't you think it is too late in the day for a new person to take charge in 13 months time.

The major problem we have today is of a government that was ill prepared for governance. That paid so much attention to the wedding at the detriment of the marraige. The issue is not about selecting a candidate, then electing him to power but how prepared the person is to rule. When an important new technology is proposed, what developers do is to test run it and if successful, certify it before placing it on the market. The Nigerian situation calls for more than a test run. I am dead sure if you ask Nigerians today if they donot mind changing the constitution to void the swearing in and rather have a potential president do a 3 month probation before approval, they will jump at that because 4 years is too much risk to bet on a person WHO HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE JOB HE WANTS TO TAKE UP IN 13 MONTHS TIME. The biggest job of his life and the most important job in Nigeria.

Any one who aspires to lead Nigeria who by now HAS NOT STARTED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT HOW HE INTENDS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES WE FACE CANNOT BE SERIOUS. And in all honesty I donot give a damn about whether INEC has blown the whistle to commence open campaigns or not. Because this is not an issue of campaigns but one of interaction, the sharing of ideas, the presentation of proposals, the genuine critique of the present system. Campaigns we know are just about vague promises. Campaigns are for ignorant, gullible folks. Campaigns are just intoxicating political jamborees. The real issues, the philisophy, the belief, the pathway must be marked clearly now.

If Makarfi wants the seat we want to know him like yesterday and if him and others will play hide and seek till a minute before elections it is far better we stick with President Buhari. Nigerian politics is notorious for empowering the unable and unwilling and I am beginning to suspect that you Tonye wants to drag a certain Makarfi kicking and screaming to the ballot paper. This is dead wrong.
Makarfi has been speaking on National issues regularly but not in a controversial manner...

Yes, we are calling on him to bow to the wish of Nigerians to lead the country in 2019
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by tuniski: 8:24am On Apr 22, 2018
Proudlyngwa:



I believe you might have some friends who stain the North, ask them the possibility of Atiku winning there. He has even been rendered inconsequential by the current governor.

Honestly, currently PDP is in shambles, it is now more of a party of units, but no unifying factor, the battle between Markarfi and sheriff should never have taken place.

PDP currently has no national leader.
As for the name change, it is better than the gross a lot of people have against them.
I am a northerner, a moslem and living in the north.
Let no one decieve you that Atiku/pdp won't do well in the north. The current governor is in apc while atiku is pdp. By the way, how many times did OBJ win Ogun state?
The fact that the conservative north are dogmatically pro-buhari is not to say the liberal Atiku has no Appeal.
To be honest with you, Atiku is the best man to take on buhari eyeballs to eyeballs, threat for threat. Gut for gut and gutter for gutter! He doesn't need Introduction.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:26am On Apr 22, 2018
Boyooosa:
Tonye, I wanted to ask why you wrote this until I read your nomenclature. It is not bad writing a good article for ur party neither bad to talk well of your opionionated candidate but I have a question for you: do we need recycled being as a front man in this country or a vibrant soldier? A soldier carries no literal meaning here, it just means; youthful, intelligent, smart, honest, disciplined and able to instil same. We don't need a democrat at this stage of our lives as a people, we need a law breaker that will break the gate of national assembly and arrest any criminal found wanting. We need an illegal arrestor of any judiciary member turning the pages of the constitution to his & his beneficiary's favour, without even going through the proceedings sef.
All these and more are the things that thrilled me of Buhari at the initial not until he entered expiry date... So we need a vibrant soldier! again.
If you are to present one from your party, we can start talking.
Peace!
Such a man will only justify soldiers to stage coup... You don't flout the constitution and expect happy ending
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by BetaThings: 8:30am On Apr 22, 2018
DonPiiko:
You are an inferior Muslim, that's the summary of this debate. Even from your post
https://www.nairaland.com/4300611/gov-wike-set-up-christian

Inferior to who?
Muslims in Tunisia or Turkey? Muslims don't choose true and genuine Muslims by mass of people but by individual accomplishment
You hear of Sahih Msulims, Sahih Bukhari, Tafsir ibn Kathir etc - they were individuals that distinguished themselves
Nothing to do with their tribe or skin colour or any yardstick used by non-muslims

DonPiiko:
You are trying too hard to get the attention and recognition of true and genuine Muslims. Keep on supporting an uneducated grandfather that should be living in retirement. Afonja Muslims aren't attractive so once there see a woman that can marry them there worship the ground which she walks on.

Who are these true and genuine Muslims? Who determines who is a genuine Muslim?
Certainly, not you, a non-believe who don't understand what the pillars of the religion are
You know so little about the religion. No Muslim on earth can dictate to me. None.
I listen to anyone I wish to and if their opinions follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW), I follow it, otherwise I ignore it

I reckon that perhaps because Christianity is about fighting for position, attention and recognition, you believe Muslims who understand their religion are afflicted by jockeying for wordly goods. No, we are not.

DonPiiko:
The real classy Muslims are the ones that marry and divorce at will. I have some of them as my good and close friends.
I ABSOLUTELY don't intend to be classy by your (and non-believers') standard - I intend to be classy by Allah's standard
If you believe marrying and divorcing is what makes one classy, you are sadly mistaken
Some past and highly regarded Muslim scholars did not even marry - it is not a pillar of the religion


By the way, has it occurred to you that while you are deciding who is a "classy" or true Muslim, the tenets of your own divisive and hateful religion may be getting increasingly cloudy

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Afamed: 8:30am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Such a man will only justify soldiers to stage coup... You don't flout the constitution and expect happy ending
We simply dont need another PDP abracadabra again. 16yrs was enough to put Nigeria in a right track.

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Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by Nobody: 8:32am On Apr 22, 2018
Inferior Afonja Muslim, you can see I come from quality bloodlines, no wonder you think Buhari is a messiah, you need to be exposed
papoudaupolos:

Allah I pity you.
Re: Why Makarfi Is The Most Credible Alternative For Nigeria by GavelSlam: 8:33am On Apr 22, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
That's a question to the past chairmen and Financial Secretaries that held sway from 1998 to 2015

Has the party penalized them for their poor management?

And by that I don't mean simply losing their positions.

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