Proudlyngwa:

And what do you aim to achieve with this, dragging with someone in an anonymous forum.

tuniski:

I am a northerner, a moslem and living in the north.
Let no one decieve you that Atiku/pdp won't do well in the north. The current governor is in apc while atiku is pdp. By the way, how many times did OBJ win Ogun state?
The fact that the conservative north are dogmatically pro-buhari is not to say the liberal Atiku has no Appeal.
To be honest with you, Atiku is the best man to take on buhari eyeballs to eyeballs, threat for threat. Gut for gut and gutter for gutter! He doesn't need Introduction.

DonPiiko:
Inferior Afonja Muslim, you can see I come from quality bloodlines, no wonder you think Buhari is a messiah, you need to be exposed

Proudlyngwa:


By written assurance, I mean a legal tender with enough power after immunity expires, as only the useless house of assembly has the right to make laws that can lead to impeachment.

Proudlyngwa:
Local government had their powers taken away from them with the advent of '99 democracy, we have not witnessed their autonomy in this present democratic setting.

Proudlyngwa:
Moreover local government chairmen and workers don't have immunity and can be checkmate by councillors, state HOA members as well as federal House of rep members.

Proudlyngwa:
The governor should be mandated to publish how much each local government receives for a start, while the legislative babysit them.

DonPiiko:
Don't mind all this hungry Afonja Muslims worshiping a disaster, I am sure there are not enlightened

TonyeBarcanista:

Such a man will only justify soldiers to stage coup... You don't flout the constitution and expect happy ending

BetaThings:


Inferior to who?
Muslims in Tunisia or Turkey? Muslims don't choose true and genuine Muslims by mass of people but by individual accomplishment
You hear of Sahih Msulims, Sahih Bukhari, Tafsir ibn Kathir etc - they were individuals that distinguished themselves
Nothing to do with their tribe or skin colour or any yardstick used by non-muslims



Who are these true and genuine Muslims? Who determines who is a genuine Muslim?
Certainly, not you, a non-believe who don't understand what the pillars of the religion are
You know so little about the religion. No Muslim on earth can dictate to me. None.
I listen to anyone I wish to and if their opinions follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW), I follow it, otherwise I ignore it

I reckon that perhaps because Christianity is about fighting for position, attention and recognition, you believe Muslims who understand their religion are afflicted by jockeying for wordly goods. No, we are not.


I ABSOLUTELY don't intend to be classy by your (and non-believers') standard - I intend to be classy by Allah's standard
If you believe marrying and divorcing is what makes one classy, you are sadly mistaken
Some past and highly regarded Muslim scholars did not even marry - it is not a pillar of the religion


By the way, has it occurred to you that while you are deciding who is a "classy" or true Muslim, the tenets of your own divisive and hateful religion may be getting increasingly cloudy

Afamed:

Anyone that does not share similar opinion with you is an hungry Afonja Muslims. No wonder GEJ lost the Election.

GavelSlam:


Call them whatever name you like their favoured candidate would continue to win.

DonPiiko:
It will be a pity if you support this disaster government on an empty stomach

TonyeBarcanista:

Oga ruggedity no be gragra and sophistication no be by noise.

Upon how Sheriff do gragra reach Makarfi still win am. Being a gentleman isn't same as being an iddiot or a pushover...

Atiku? Make I no even talk for now

BetaThings:


Sincerely, you won't get that in a democracy
A written document cannot overturn the "popular" will of the people expressed in an election
You need to work that into a legislation right now, not after 2015

BetaThings:

One of the reasons their powers were taken away was because they were not able to pay salaries
Salaries is paid directly by the state from their allocation before it is disbursed

BetaThings:

Federal parliamentarians don't have immunity too. You don't need immunity to work
Some chairmen are local champions and can scuttle the ambition of Abuja people


Even the governors have limitations - some elected chairmen have been known to confront governors - if they gang up, the governor cannot win any election

GavelSlam:


I support this government and my stomach would never be empty.

You should have told us you were hungry.

DonPiiko:
I hope so, it's a pitiable idea to have to postulate falsehood in order to get small food

GavelSlam:


You must be among the lazy Nigerians people have been talking about.

Go and work impostor.

Proudlyngwa:


Good to know that, I have interacted with a lot of friends up north, both Liberal and Conservative, and those who stand with Atiku are in the minute minority.

His cross carpeting, is a sign of political inconsistency,
He might have a lager support base than other northern politicians, but his good will is limited.

Left for me, Atiku's manifesto or PMB's own does not match my expectations, I didn't vote in the last elections, I won't vote in this, but I don't expect Buhari to lose.

DonPiiko:
Send me your account number

Chrismario:
@Tonyebarcanista

This is not a dig rather for clarification purpose.

Why are you supporting makarfi? (I asked this question because sometime ago you introduced APDA)
Are you not in APDA anymore?

Don't you think there are others that may not be in PDP but still can make a better president? e.g Sowore

TonyeBarcanista:

Which saner clime expects a 61 years old to retire politically? USA? Germany? UK?

A third world like Nigeria doesn't need inexperienced president. Even the French guy had some political experience before running for the office... Not to talk of Nigeria with vested but conflicting interest groups

GavelSlam:


Why would I want to do that?

I protect what's mine.

Go and work impostor.

Afamed:

Ignore him, he's an upcoming politician without ideology. PDP today, APDA tomorrow. Who knows it might be kowa next tomorrow. Anywhere Belle face.

tuniski:

Until 2015, buhari was the most unelectable candidate. Today, the rest is history. Should atiku pick the ticket of PDP, he will thrash Buhari!

DonPiiko:
I do a honourable job, I make multiple times what your BMC aspirations can ever pay you

prince3009:


Oh yeah...I guess buhari with his whole lot of "experience" is deservedly our president. His wealth of experience is the reason why he has berated Nigerians (including you and I) twice by calling us criminals last year and just recently, lazy youths. I can vividly remember you were once in support of him. Now you are playing another political lyric with the Markafi Tune but anyway, that is a topic for another day.

You are totally wrong. It isn't about experience as you put it because people like Donald Duke had no prior experience before he became the Governor of Cross River state but what is happening today? The state is enjoying the biggest tourism status in the country because of the transformation by his administration.

What about present Governors like Obiano of Anambra? He was just a bank MD before he was selected by his predecessor Obi to run the affairs of the state and he has at least a four star rating among his peers.

So bro, this has nothing to do with experience. What this country needs is a technocrat who has the affairs of this country at heart and is willing to serve diligently without favoritism and sentiments.

TonyeBarcanista:
Though he is yet to officially declare for the race, I make bold to say that he is the ONLY one that will be HIGHLY accepted by Nigerians irrespective of religion and ethnicity.

rusher14:



Jennifer Elizabeth Douglas, who has also gone by the names Jennifer Iwenjiora, Jamila Abubakar, and Jennifer Douglas-Abubakar, is the fourth wife of Atiku Abubakar. According to the Atiku Biography,Ms. Douglas was born in Nigeria as Jennifer Iwenjiora, worked as a television journalist at the Nigerian Television Authority, and dated Mr. Abubakar in the early 1980s, before leaving for the United States.

She lost touch with Mr. Abubakar while attending Howard University. She subsequently married in the United States, took the married name of Jennifer Douglas, and later divorced, becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen during this time period. Ms. Douglas eventually renewed her relationship with Mr. Abubakar who came to visit her in the United States. According to the Atiku Biography, from late 1995 to early 1998, while Sani Abacha was in power in Nigeria, Mr. Abubakar “spent most of his time in Maryland” with Ms. Douglas, making occasional visits to Nigeria.

Skipped a lot of paragraphs to the important bit on Page 190.


In December 2008, the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filed criminal and civil pleadings alleging that Siemens AG, a major German company traded on the New York Stock Exchange, violated the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) by making bribery payments to obtain business in multiple countries, including Nigeria.

Siemens pleaded guilty to violating the books and record keeping provisions of the FCPA, and agreed to pay combined criminal and civil fines totaling more than $1.6 billion.
What are you calling unproven?:

One of the allegations in the SEC civil complaint against Siemens was that “approximately $2.8 million of the bribe payments was routed through a bank account in Potomac, Maryland, in the name of the wife of a former Nigerian Vice President.”

The Subcommittee has obtained wire transfer documentation substantiating this allegation, as explained below. Through her legal
counsel, however, Ms. Douglas denies any wrongdoing





https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FOREIGNCORRUPTIONREPORTFINAL710.pdf

positivethought:
From your own write up,the purported money was paid through Jenifer Atiku's account,the said Jenifer however denied any wrong doing n you did not show where she was tried n found guilty,the said Siemens money was also supportedly paid to many persons so who are the other person's n has any of them been declared wanted,arrested or prosecuted?,some months back if my memory is right punch Newspaper made enquiries through the U S embassy in Nigeria whether Atiku had a pending legal issue in any U S court,the response was negative,besides if obasanjo knew Atiku was corrupt why did he choosed him as running mate in 1999 n also retained him in 2003?,the best you people can do is to get the U S to declare Atiku wanted for this your narrative to stick n be of any meaning at all, like I said n still insist yes Atiku may not be perfect but he has proven to be better by far in so many ramifications sentiments apart,to be the right man Nigeria needs now to pilot her affairs.It is now crystal clear that buhari was n is still just a product of propaganda n sentiments nothing else.Atiku may not eventually get the presidency but that wouldn't be anything new, Awo was certainly ahead of his contemporaries but never got the presidency only for Nigerians to cry later.

Proudlyngwa:


Good luck with that.

Let him win the primaries though, Atiku's has always had a problem of getting to the main stage without kriskrossing.

He might be lucky to be a main candidate this time, then he will know there is a difference between primaries and main elections.

This is 9 months to elections, and we don't even know what Atiku is bringing to the table.

Reference:
Mr Tonye, there is no doubt you may be right about the man and his potentials but the problem I have is that.... this is April 2018. This time in 13 months, this government will have ended. For a country as large and as complex as this. With more challenges bedevilling it more than ever before don't you think it is too late in the day for a new person to take charge in 13 months time.

The major problem we have today is of a government that was ill prepared for governance. That paid so much attention to the wedding at the detriment of the marraige. The issue is not about selecting a candidate, then electing him to power but how prepared the person is to rule. When an important new technology is proposed, what developers do is to test run it and if successful, certify it before placing it on the market. The Nigerian situation calls for more than a test run. I am dead sure if you ask Nigerians today if they donot mind changing the constitution to void the swearing in and rather have a potential president do a 3 month probation before approval, they will jump at that because 4 years is too much risk to bet on a person WHO HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE JOB HE WANTS TO TAKE UP IN 13 MONTHS TIME. The biggest job of his life and the most important job in Nigeria.

Any one who aspires to lead Nigeria who by now HAS NOT STARTED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT HOW HE INTENDS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES WE FACE CANNOT BE SERIOUS. And in all honesty I donot give a damn about whether INEC has blown the whistle to commence open campaigns or not. Because this is not an issue of campaigns but one of interaction, the sharing of ideas, the presentation of proposals, the genuine critique of the present system. Campaigns we know are just about vague promises. Campaigns are for ignorant, gullible folks. Campaigns are just intoxicating political jamborees. The real issues, the philisophy, the belief, the pathway must be marked clearly now.

If Makarfi wants the seat we want to know him like yesterday and if him and others will play hide and seek till a minute before elections it is far better we stick with President Buhari. Nigerian politics is notorious for empowering the unable and unwilling and I am beginning to suspect that you Tonye wants to drag a certain Makarfi kicking and screaming to the ballot paper. This is dead wrong.

rusher14:


Away from here you supporter of iniquity.

The report uses 4 examples of corrupt politically exposed people and how they use various tools of banking to launder stolen funds.

A USA Senate committee report and you are here talking horseshit because the internet allows all manner of imbeciles have a voice.

The Senate report confirmed money paid into her account by Siemens who themselves have acknowledged guilt.

Atiku's wife left the country as soon as she got wind of a Senate investigation and neither she nor her husband have visited the country ever since.


But here you are your beggardly self thinking you must find a way to support such evil because somehow it massages your primordial need to steal.