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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:10am On Apr 24, 2018 |
The last i checked our oil consumption was over 100k barrells per day and nigeria was struggling around 270k...see at best your gdp is around 240b dollars.Not current 327 when we use the real exchange rate. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:24am On Apr 24, 2018 |
Tbh,this thread was finished by page 5. Now I'm here for the education and the jokes. I'm sorry to say some of you,may of you actually exhibit characteristics common to certain Kenyan women,specifically Kikuyu women. 1. Frequent Lies and Exaggerations 2. Rarely Admit Flaws and Are Highly Aggressive When Criticized 3. False Image Projection 4. Rule Breaking and Boundary Violation 5. Emotional Invalidation and Coercion 6. Manipulation: The Use or Control of Others as an Extension of Oneself These are the classic symptoms of narcissistic behaviour. Any normal human person can observe the lies-how many times have Naijjans posted pics of the moribund monorail? Why the need to not logically convince but verbally assault others? What's the impetus behind the 'Giant of Africa,' when in the real world that's like the tallest pygmy appellation? What's with the constant Dangote dyck riding? IIRC when I first asked this someone emptied the contents of his underwear drawer at me and ran for cover! Anyway any Kenyan of an age and life experience can tell you these tendencies are identical to Kikuyu women behaviour which is a recognizable syndrome. Like you,they're wayyyyyyy too impressed with themselves and inhabit a parallel reality. The result? Dysfunction,depression,single motherhood and a trail of broken relationships not just men but even female friendships I've noticed frequently fall under their narcissistic self centredness. In Nairobi,I've also noticed the two of you are more often than not together which makes me go hmmmmm..... No,I'm not c ockblocking,have fun with their golden kitkat if you want! Just imo a psychological breakdown of the impulses at play on this particular thread. Ask Naij gals in London their observations of Kikuyu women and get back. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:01am On Apr 24, 2018 |
jason14:see this guy Ghana does not want to be a failed state . Find some other country |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:01am On Apr 24, 2018 |
justtoodark: They have a beef with us. It is THEM discussing us, not the other way round. Just like you have beef with Ghanaians. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:22am On Apr 24, 2018 |
mtis:your right for once |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:28am On Apr 24, 2018 |
Just30:OK sir then tell ur people to stop comparing themselves to a failed state , Nigeria is a failed state , is it ur failed state? is it not our failed state ? u people should stop disturbing us and leave d forum (3rd largest in d world) that belongs to a failed state . na wa o |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 10:29am On Apr 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: who told you we have beef with Ghanaians....?? they are pissed at everybody not only at nigerians.... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:30am On Apr 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker:we don't have beef with Ghanaians, they don't like Nigerians , for some reason I don't know . their jealousy is off d chains |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 10:35am On Apr 24, 2018 |
we don't see Ghana as anything , we even see Ghana as an extension of Nigeria |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 10:35am On Apr 24, 2018 |
jason14: were you on the gas thread...??... nigerians were still abusing each other and not Ghanaians.... we have no beef with them.... we have more beef with each other than with Ghanaians.... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:40am On Apr 24, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: So absurd indeed! They're always on neck with Ghanaians left right centre,very soon you'll see them insulting people from other continents. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
kikuyu1:hypocrisy is what I dislike, here's a post from someone once on d thread CocoMilian: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:15pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
IMF World Economic Outlook April 2018 Update Some interesting stats: * Egypt predicted to overtake SA in GDP/capita in 2020 and Algeria in 2023, making it the richest large country in Africa both overall and per capita * SA GDP/captita basically stagnant from 2010 - 2023 * Nigeria GDP/capita predicted to actually decrease from peak in 2014 ($5,754) to $5,172 in 2023, and Ghana will catch up to Nigeria * Tanzania to catch up to Kenya in GDP/capita * South Sudan, DRC, Central African Republic, and Burundi will all still have GDP/capita below $1000 in 2023. * Many African countries are still growing slower than their population growth rate and have decreasing or stagnant GDP/capita GDP (nominal) 1. Nigeria - $408 billion 2. South Africa - $371 billion 3. Egypt - N/A 4. Algeria - $198 billion 5. Morocco - $121 billion 6. Angola - $119 billion 7. Kenya - $88 billion 8. Ethiopia - $86 billion 9. Tanzania - $56 billion 10. Ghana - $51 billion 11. Cote d'Ivoire - $48 billion 12. Libya - $44 billion 13. DRC - $43 billion 14. Tunisia - $40 billion 15. Cameroon - $39 billion GDP (PPP) 1. Egypt - $1.292 trillion 2. Nigeria - $1.168 trillion 3. South Africa - $794 billion 4. Algeria - $667 billion 5. Morocco - $315 billion 6. Ethiopia - $222 billion 7. Angola - $199 billion 8. Sudan - $198 billion 9. Tanzania - $176.4 billion 10. Kenya - $175.9 billion 11. Ghana - $145 billion 12. Tunisia - $141 billion 13. Cote d'Ivoire - $106 billion 14. Uganda - $95 billion 15. Cameroon - $94 billion GDP/capita (PPP) 1. Equatorial Guinea - $29,261 2. Seychelles - $26,793 3. Mauritius - $20,404 4. Gabon - $17,770 5. Botswana - $16,782 6. Algeria - $14,034 7. South Africa - $12,327 8. Egypt - $11,872 9. Tunisia - $10,854 10. Libya - $10,486 11. Namibia - $10,343 12. Swaziland - $8,812 13. Morocco - $7,959 14. Cabo Verde - $6,516 15. Angola - $6,101 Even our GDP/capita (PPP) is far better than that of Kenyan owns, so, what da hell are Kenyans here saying ? http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...ata/index.aspx __________________
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:30pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
1) PPP - is crap if you're comparing nations. Nominal GDP (in USD) is the standard comparison. Economics 101. 2) Nigeria real GDP if you use the real exchange rate in the region of 320B. 3) If Kenya is already at 88B dollars...then I should worry if I was South Africa...Nigeria is just messed up. 4) TZ has been ramping up minning - but their economy is still nearly half of kenya! 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:36pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
68816419: GDP per capita is a calculated thingy. Does not measure the real thing on ground. It involves Gross domestic product converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity rates and divided by total population.Nigerians.Your GDP is 400 b (Not really sure )while Kenya’s one is around 80 b. The real thing to use is the human development index which we are ahead of you. But here is where reality sinks in… According to the World Poverty Clock, Nigeria’s struggle with overpopulation will be a problem now, rather than in 2050. Nigeria will by February 2018 overtake India as the country with the most people in extreme poverty. Currently, 82 million Nigerians live in extreme poverty, which is 42.4 percent of Nigeria’s population. They are not talking of poverty but extreme poverty 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:41pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
According to same report (World Poverty Clock ) : Nigeria’s mean household income per capita is $1168, as compared to India’s $1759. However, this wouldn’t be an accurate measure of the welfare of the average Nigerian. What would be accurate to measure the economic growth as compared to its growing population will be the wealth distribution. More wealth is concentrated with the elites , despite the country’s oil wealth, than among the people. Those who have access to this oil wealth through politics have been the major recipients of the wealth. The high rate of unemployment, endemic corruption, the lack of basic social amenities for millions of people, the difficulty in doing business and the millions living in poverty are all consequences of the huge inequality in Nigeria. an the kicker Hence, Nigeria’s rising extreme poverty numbers isn’t unexpected. Instead, it’s a direct result of years of negligent and ineffective government policies. It’s dependence on oil for years and an inability to generate non-oil revenue has led it to this . Even now, Nigeria’s 2018 record budget is running on a deficit and will be funded by much borrowing with government debts also on the rise. It would be extremely difficult for the country to meet that 1st goal of the SDGs, which all the other goals are more or less dependent on |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:45pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
rvp2018: nigger u need to visit a psychiatrist ASAP i swear, so you mean you r more intelligent than IMF/WORLD-BANK economist? Man,the IMF used the current value of Nigeria exchange and that is why they tagged it "IMF World Economic Outlook April 2018 Update" OK, let now use your "Nominal GDP (in USD) is the standard comparison" as comparison between Nigeria and Kenya , Nigeria is ranked 137 Nigeria with Nominal GDP of 1,994 while Kenya is ranked 143 in the world with normal GDP of 1,702 so who now leads ?, Nigeria is no Kenya mates in most aspects
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:54pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
First let us agree that PPP cannot be used to compare countries. We use nominal GDP in USD. I am not saying there is no use of PPP - PPP is very useful tool within the country - for say measuring poverty! Secondly let us agree that Kenya and TZ have a free - floating currency - there is no official exchange rate and black market one.Right now Central Bank of Nigeria has fixed an exchange rate of 306USD for naira - but the market rate is something 360 plus.If we use the real market rate - Nigerai GDP (and it's per capita) - will drop drastically from $400B to $320B - and my contention is that 320B is still cooked..Nigeria GDP should be around 250B. Kenya is not rich - but it's growth has been solid 6% for the last 15yrs and it's predicted to grow at 6% for next 15yrs....and so by 2030-2035...it will have overtaken South Africa if she continues in her current mess.Nigeria is hopeless. She has to wean herself of OIL before we can talk about her. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 12:59pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
68816419: Doubt these stats very much. I very much doubt that Ghana will catch up to Nigeria in gdp per capita in 5 years. These are just mere speculations based on current, recent conditions. These conditions are bound to change |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:03pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:09pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
shervydman:Lool , see how they all crawled out of their holes to defend their cooked data. They saw the world bank chart and ignored it. When it comes to cooking data, Kenya is the Chief Cook. Don't believe anything they say here. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:09pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
Nigeria unemployment figures are hilarious - Yemi Kale over-cooked BS - who claim Nigeria has 6% unemployment - and yet the total taxes paid to Nigeria Gov minus Oil is nearly nothing. Whack methodology. Whack data. If kenya used the same - it could declare unemployment rate of 0%. [quote author=68816419 post=66986942][/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:16pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
mtis:u really made some sense with ur post but failed to realize some things. 1. Countries with and mineral resources mostly have bigger economy than countries with. (On a normal scale). 2. Countries with lower population tend to have higher HDI than larger countries. Ur HDI is rated at 0.55 (no 146 in d world) and Nigeria is rated at 0.52 (no 152 in d world). Pls, show me the real difference there with a country of ur calibre. Lol, poverty line or extreme poverty line is a hoax. Got this from a world data. A key difficulty in measuring global poverty is that price levels are very different in different countries. For this reason, it is not sufficient to simply convert the consumption levels of people in different countries by the market exchange rate; it is additionally necessary to adjust for cross-country differences in purchasing power. This is done through Purchasing Power Parity adjustmentshttps://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty So, if u can afford to buy 2 local beer in Kenya everyday @400ksh (or $4) n I buy 2 local beer in Nigeria everyday @400naira.(or $1.1) u're living above poverty line while I'm living below extreme poverty? abeg, who's fooling who? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:21pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
68816419:Mr 68816419 i know you know Kenya well an ya conversant with stuff like jua kali which are informal in a way. Truth of the matter unemployment in Kenya is way down than you think unless ya just counting guys in suits an ties.That may be same scenario in Nigeria. But ya gt look at poverty level in your country. Assume that the unemployment level is such low why the extreme poverty |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:28pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
shervydman:In a way I do agree but at the same time we gt agree that Kenyans got greater purchasing power than Nigerians . That’s based on what ya just posted |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:29pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
rvp2018:hmmmmm well “Knowledge is responsibility, which is why people resist knowledge.” even United States of America/GDP growth rate is 2.1%, UK is 1.6% .and you are yet to provide any indexes that shows Kenya is better than Nigeria, i showed you that Nigeria is far better than Kenya either in GDP.Norman, unemployment rates and many more ....let assumes our economy is 250B and yours is 80B we are still ahead of you three times! so what da hell are you saying? Nigerian economy on course for 3.5% growth in 2018 - world bank |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:33pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
Kenyans cooking data since the days of prophet Mohammad. I guess this is also from a Tanzanian blog..They are the worst when it comes to data on anything. Have you not noticed how they have lied since the beginning of this thread? https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001238843/when-growth-numbers-don-t-tell-the-full-story "As a result, the cost of living for ordinary Kenyans went up as prices of unga, tomatoes, sukumawiki, and cabbages soared. So, how did the economy grow? According to Bohlund, the answer lies in what the national statistician has for long refused to reveal: a blow-by-blow account of public expenditure. KNBS has not yet released this data. “This means that we have a less complete understanding of the economy,” says Bohlund who adds that Kenya, an economic powerhouse in the region, however, lags behind Uganda and Rwanda in terms of quality of data." |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:39pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
mtis:Lol, at d bolded, u're wrong. Below is the price of beer in the US (owner of $$ u all love to convert currencies to) Note: the prices are in cases (24 cans of beer). Most are less than $1/beer while u buy urs at $2. That's d meaning of PPP,u grab??
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 1:41pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
mtis:What do you mean by extreme poverty? lf l can afford to eat a full meal for 0.90 cents( below 1 dollar) in a place like Kebbi for instance( where cost of living isn't high), would you call me poor? Extremely poor by definition means those living below 2 dollar a day, and this is about 700 naira which is enough to buy most things you need for a good meal in many parts of Nigeria, even in places like Benin city or Kano, Kebbi, etc. For farmers in states with low cost of living they do not need to live above 2 dollars a day to survive and even take care of some other expenses in their states. What is defined as extremely poor is usually by American standards with American currency. Nigeria and much of Africa has so many poor people and some of the poorest in the world, but it doesn't make sense when you define poor as those who live below 2dollars a day across all countries. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:43pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
mtis:Why not compare with Kenya why India ?, i though you said Kenya is better than Nigeria |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:45pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
obaaderemi: Guy u bad oooo 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:47pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
Daejoyoung:Please ask him how much does an average Kenyan spends a day ? |
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