ell77:


I repeat my question: Why do you think it seems so impossible for us to simply work together (irrespective of government)? This extends to those in diaspora?

The governments are greedy and if the citizens tries it, the government will make it futile.

Those in diaspora has to struggle for survival and also don't want their offsprings to suffer like they do since the Nigerian government never care if anyone exist, poor, lives in pain or not.

Neither of us chose where we were born,

I do. Please speak for yourself.

And can you tell me why you don't chose where you were born; Why can't you just come back and live the rest of your life here!

I cannot deny you as my fellow Nigerian even if you wish to deny me.

No one is denying anyone here.

maternal:


Did you give all these advice to your parents? You do know there's a reason you were born abroad ? Do you think it was a mistake ?

She can't because she never comes/stays in this country to know how bad this country is.

She's just hearing it from her parents so I can't blame her. Seeing is believing they say so if she can't come to this country then she should not advise people to stay in this country and work together.

I'm challenging you to come to Nigeria for vacation and stay at least 3 months if you won't think of running back

cc; ell77

HeWrites:

The governments are greedy

Those in diaspora has to struggle for survival and also don't want their offsprings to suffer like they do since the Nigerian government never care if anyone exist, poor, lives in pain or not.



I do. Please speak for yourself.

And can you tell me why you don't chose where you were born; Why can't you just come back and live the rest of your life here!


No one is denying anyone here.

Why do you write so angrily HeWrites? I am not Buhari?!

To answer your questions, I do plan to live in Nigeria, HeWrites, but unlike you I have no base there including no immediate family. I need to start from scratch with a house and accommodation, my husband and three kids who need to sort out schooling etc.

I actually don't have anything against people moving abroad (which is perhaps what you think). It's just sad that Indians, Lebanese, Chinese etc can work together and come and succeed in business in Nigeria whilst Nigerians who are already doing well (not those suffering), are moving abroad and may not remember those left behind or invest there. Well when I start my business in Nigeria hopefully I will alleviate some of these issues. It is difficult to start a business when you have no base there though, you do need to find strategic partnerships and that is why I am not there already, I have not found any like-minded people. Not that they don't exist, but I currently don't have access to them by virtue of distance.

Well, I wish everyone travelling to Canada the best of luck, with proper planning you can make it almost anywhere in this world. But if possible, invest back home not just for the sake of other but yourself.

HeWrites:
I'm challenging you to come to Nigeria for vacation and stay at least 3 months if you won't think of running back

cc; ell77

HeWrites, I opted in for youth service in Nigeria and worked in Oshodi, Lagos for the year, I used Okada and Danfo to go to work every day, I fetched water from a communal well when the communal tap was not working and carried the buckets up three flights of stairs to the apartements. I won't lie, it was difficult! I did without a generator surviving on NEPA, with low immunity for malaria I consistently caught malaria and even typhoid.

My parents are here in the UK.

The countries you believe are so good for you, I am certain you have not visited them for more than 3 months.

HeWrites, if you want to make waves in life, turn whatever anger you have (however justified) into a positive force to make change in your life and of those around you. Nigeria is difficult in many ways, only a fool would argue otherwise. But the question I am asking is what is the solution, or is Nigeria OUR COUNTRY, simply a lost cause?

ell77:


Why do you write so angrily HeWrites? I am not Buhari?!

Don't mind me. Just angry that there's not point trying to defend this, shameless country.

To answer your questions, I do plan to live in Nigeria, HeWrites, but unlike you I have no base there including no immediate family. I need to start from scratch with a house and accommodation, my husband and three kids who need to sort out schooling etc.

Are your parents (if not both) not Nigerians.

No immediate family? Where are the younger ones? They have fled the country

You ain't married to a Nigerian?

I pray your decision won't affect the innocent kids.

I actually don't have anything against people moving abroad (which is perhaps what you think).

My thought because you think the advise you gave would work which our government will never make to work.

Well when I start my business in Nigeria hopefully I will alleviate some of these issues.

I wish you good luck but I pray you don't regret your decision later.

Well, I wish everyone travelling to Canada the best of luck, with proper planning you can make it almost anywhere in this world. But if possible, invest back home not just for the sake of other but yourself.

If one don't engage in CORRUPTION here in Nigeria one's chance of making it is very low.

*my opinion*

ell77:


HeWrites, I opted in for youth service in Nigeria and worked in Oshodi, Lagos for the year, I used Okada and Danfo to go to work every day, I fetched water from a communal well when the communal tap was not working and carried the buckets up three flights of stairs to the apartements. I won't lie, it was difficult! I did without a generator surviving on NEPA, with low immunity for malaria I consistently caught malaria and even typhoid.

Oh! What an experience. How does it feels like?

How was it compared to the UK own? (the experience)

The countries you believe are so good for you, I am certain you have not visited them for more than 3 months.

Your 101% correct. Even not to talk of going to an airport before.

But the question I am asking is what is the solution, or is Nigeria OUR COUNTRY, simply a lost cause?

Nigerian needs a less corrupt leader (young and fit) with little or no corruption records and should be cruel so that he will order the killings of all the old cargos that ruined the government.

HeWrites:


Oh! What an experience. How does it feels like?

How was it compared to the UK own? (the experience)

HeWrites, the experience was physically harder, but socially there is a lot to be missed about Nigeria. I am not saying that makes up for it. But I do believe with the right infrastructure in place Nigeria would be 10x better than any country Nigerians emigrate to. It is that dream that I would like to build for my children, for all of our children!

HeWrites:


Your 101% correct. Even not to talk of going to an airport before.


Nigerian needs a less corrupt leader (young and fit) with little or no corruption records and should be cruel so that he will order the killings of all the old cargos that ruined the government.

Well HeWrites, I pray a new uncorrupt leader who actually wants Nigeria's progress will enter the seat of power. But since independence have we had much of these? I don't want my great grandchildren to grow up repeating the same sayings their great great grandparents said "when will Nigeria reach its potential...". It seems a never ending cycle. Surely someone can break it. I personally have given up on government for now, I am more interested in what I can do.

HeWrites:


Don't mind me. Just angry that there's not point trying to defend this, shameless country.



Are your parents (if not both) not Nigerians.

No immediate family? Where are the younger ones? They have fled the country

You ain't married to a Nigerian?

I pray your decision won't affect the innocent kids.



My thought because you think the advise you gave would work which our government will never make to work.


I wish you good luck but I pray you don't regret your decision later.



If one don't engage in CORRUPTION here in Nigeria one's chance of making it is very low.

*my opinion*

Don't really want to get too personal on this forum, as I'm sure you can understand. But my parents, brothers and husband are all Nigerian and in Britain. Myself and my brothers were born and bred here. As a married woman, with children I can't carry my family of 5 and squat in someone's house when we already have a home in UK, that would be unwise of me. We are planning to purchase a home there. This is the first step. Even if we don't live there for some reason property is a good investment (if done well), I am flexible as I will most definitely have to gauge my family's experience so I would never sell all my worldly possessions and move without testing the waters and have a backup to the backup plan!

But I do know many Nigerians who have sold everything they had, quit jobs (instead of taking a sabbatical) and fled to UK, Canada etc. I believe there is risk in everything you do. A wise person will list out all of those risks and put contingencies in place in case things don't go according to plan or circumstances or aspirations change. Which they can and often do.

How many Nigerians rushing to Canada have good plans? [/b]If people discourage you from going abroad, don't argue. Simply ask then why, then list all the reasons they put on a [b]Risk Register, one by one, in your own time, assess the likelihood of it happening to you, how to guard against it, and whether it would really be the end of the world if that terrible thing they talked about actually happened to become a reality for you. Then wherever you go, you should be fine. It is much easier to plan for risks/problems/disadvantages you are aware about. Most likely the people complaining to you were never given the opportunity to hear of these problems or they decided not to listen themselves. Be wise.

ell77:


Don't really want to get too personal on this forum, as I'm sure you can understand. But my parents, brothers and husband are all Nigerian and in Britain. Myself and my brothers were born and bred here. As a married woman, with children I can't carry my family of 5 and squat in someone's house when we already have a home in UK, that would be unwise of me. We are planning to purchase a home there. This is the first step. Even if we don't live there for some reason property is a good investment (if done well), I am flexible as I will most definitely have to gauge my family's experience so I would never sell all my worldly possessions and move without testing the waters and have a backup to the backup plan!

But I do know many Nigerians who have sold everything they had, quit jobs (instead of taking a sabbatical) and fled to UK, Canada etc. I believe there is risk in everything you do. A wise person will list out all of those risks and put contingencies in place in case things don't go according to plan or circumstances or aspirations change. Which they can and often do.

Anyways, I wish you success in all your plans.

How many Nigerians rushing to Canada have good plans? If people discourage you from going abroad, don't argue. Simply ask then why, then list all the reasons they put on a [b]Risk Register, one by one, in your own time, assess the likelihood of it happening to you, how to guard against it, and whether it would really be the end of the world if that terrible thing they talked about actually happened to become a reality for you. Then wherever you go, you should be fine. It is much easier to plan for risks/problems/disadvantages you are aware about. Most likely the people complaining to you were never given the opportunity to hear of these problems or they decided not to listen themselves. Be wise.

I love this. Thanks!

Recently I went to a diagnostic centre in Lagos owned by Indians, something just came to my mind thus: Nigerians are leaving their country but the Indians and Chinese are coming to Nigeria to invest, what an irony.

What are they seeing that we fail to see?

ell77:


Don't really want to get too personal on this forum, as I'm sure you can understand. But my parents, brothers and husband are all Nigerian and in Britain. Myself and my brothers were born and bred here. As a married woman, with children I can't carry my family of 5 and squat in someone's house when we already have a home in UK, that would be unwise of me. We are planning to purchase a home there. This is the first step. Even if we don't live there for some reason property is a good investment (if done well), I am flexible as I will most definitely have to gauge my family's experience so I would never sell all my worldly possessions and move without testing the waters and have a backup to the backup plan!

But I do know many Nigerians who have sold everything they had, quit jobs (instead of taking a sabbatical) and fled to UK, Canada etc. I believe there is risk in everything you do. A wise person will list out all of those risks and put contingencies in place in case things don't go according to plan or circumstances or aspirations change. Which they can and often do.

How many Nigerians rushing to Canada have good plans? [/b]If people discourage you from going abroad, don't argue. Simply ask then why, then list all the reasons they put on a [b]Risk Register, one by one, in your own time, assess the likelihood of it happening to you, how to guard against it, and whether it would really be the end of the world if that terrible thing they talked about actually happened to become a reality for you. Then wherever you go, you should be fine. It is much easier to plan for risks/problems/disadvantages you are aware about. Most likely the people complaining to you were never given the opportunity to hear of these problems or they decided not to listen themselves. Be wise.

I wonder why u are arguing with a typical Nigerian man. African will never understand until they travel there. An African man will leave a million naira job and travel oversea 'African Mentality' yet they blame government. That's why our president call us lazy dude. African man will have over a million dollar in their account and spend all to travel oversea saying no light, no road, no security and end up working in a factory and find it very hard to pay bills. African man will be comparing himself with ronaldo saying he earn over 300million dollar a week, lol.
Problem with we Africans is that we just wanted to get rich fast without thinking otherwise. How many Canadian have 5,000 dollars is his/her bank account? You will hardly find one, yet we say we wanna live like them.
Can an African man live on debt?
Mortgage
Car finance and so on
There are many house at d gra close to my area which govt has provided available for civil servants but nobody is ready to pay mortgage everybody wants pay off.

IbnIbrahim:
Recently I went to a diagnostic centre in Lagos owned by Indians, something just came to my mind thus: Nigerians are leaving their country but the Indians and Chinese are coming to Nigeria to invest, what an irony.

What are they seeing that we fail to see?

Nigerians are not smart enough.
We just want to get rich fast

NeyofeedNigEnt:

I wonder why u are arguing with a typical Nigerian man.

Sorry Mr. 'Non-typical Nigerian man'

NeyofeedNigEnt:


Nigerians are not smart enough.
We just want to get rich fast

This is the kind of response I got from a friend.
Sincerely, to be successful in any business in Nigeria, You have to be tough and dogged in your pursuit

NeyofeedNigEnt:


I wonder why u are arguing with a typical Nigerian man. African will never understand until they travel there. An African man will leave a million naira job and travel oversea 'African Mentality' yet they blame government. That's why our president call us lazy dude. African man will have over a million dollar in their account and spend all to travel oversea saying no light, no road, no security and end up working in a factory and find it very hard to pay bills. African man will be comparing himself with ronaldo saying he earn over 300million dollar a week, lol.
Problem with we Africans is that we just wanted to get rich fast without thinking otherwise. How many Canadian have 5,000 dollars is his/her bank account? You will hardly find one, yet we say we wanna live like them.
Can an African man live on debt?
Mortgage
Car finance and so on
There are many house at d gra close to my area which govt has provided available for civil servants but nobody is ready to pay mortgage everybody wants pay off.

The truth is. One way or another we all affect each other. I don't know anyone on this forum personally. Maybe there is a medical doctor that could one day treat me or a loved one if given encouragement to solve problems and make well thought out decisions instead of making decisions under anger caused a by a government that has let them down.

People get emotional. People make rash decisions. People feel like changing everything when they feel nothing is working.

I do agree with some of what you say. But the truth is many of those Nigerians travel abroad and do pay these things (although with much difficulty as they didn't plan for it). My thinking is they do this because they have landed and there is no turning back. A large number of them would love to go back or would have put the same effort into staying in Nigeria (although not all, many are indeed haopy for a long time). It is up to people like yourself to enlighten the people, who have yet to leave. There is nothing to say that someone could not leave Nigeria and return. But many burn their bridges and shame or lack of opportunity prevents them returning. I argue, because maybe it will help someone. Even if they are arguing with me! (I guess it's the mother in me)

Saintp:


Black people are too self centered, you just confirmed it and this is why we can't develop as a nation. We care only about ourselves, ourselves and ourselves with no regard to others and the larger society.

So you will be happy that you have solar and inverter and have 24/7 light while your neighbors wallow in darkness. Some people have bought SUVs to minimize the effect of bad roads, some have surrounded their house with 12 feet wall, nails and barb wires to protect themselves from bad people and they are happy thinking this is all to life.

Until we start to value collective and society progress instead of individual progress, this country will remain a shithole. The difference between us and the western world is that the value collective progress, you don't need to be rich to enjoy basic amenities, you don't need to be rich to call 911 when in danger to get immediate police protection and many more.

At the end of the day, it shouldn't be about money. I prefer to be in an environment where things work for all irrespective of whether they are rich or poor than to be in an environment where getting the basic things of life will depend on how rich or poor you are.

I know for a fact that these countries you are praising today did not start like that. They evolved into what they have become.

Truth is those that will go, will go. Those that will remain will remain and those that will return will return.

We just pray for God's blessings wherever we are.

ell77:


The truth is. One way or another we all affect each other. I don't know anyone on this forum personally. Maybe there is a medical doctor that could one day treat me or a loved one if given encouragement to solve problems and make well thought out decisions instead of making decisions under anger caused a by a government that has let them down.

People get emotional. People make rash decisions. People feel like changing everything when they feel nothing is working.

I do agree with some of what you say. But the truth is many of those Nigerians travel abroad and do pay these things (although with much difficulty as they didn't plan for it). My thinking is they do this because they have landed and there is no turning back. A large number of them would love to go back or would have put the same effort into staying in Nigeria (although not all, many are indeed haopy for a long time). It is up to people like yourself to enlighten the people, who have yet to leave. There is nothing to say that someone could not leave Nigeria and return. But many burn their bridges and shame or lack of opportunity prevents them returning. I argue, because maybe it will help someone. Even if they are arguing with me! (I guess it's the mother in me)

#MamaAfrica

Nice signature by the way.

IbnIbrahim:
Recently I went to a diagnostic centre in Lagos owned by Indians, something just came to my mind thus: Nigerians are leaving their country but the Indians and Chinese are coming to Nigeria to invest, what an irony.

What are they seeing that we fail to see?

Exactly.

Check out:
www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/why-primus-hospital-is-establishing-a-kidney-transplant-centre-in-nigeria/amp/

She even says India had the same problem or medical tourism and then doctors had to return to rebuild!

ell77:


HeWrites, the experience was physically harder, but socially there is a lot to be missed about Nigeria. I am not saying that makes up for it. But I do believe with the right infrastructure in place Nigeria would be 10x better than any country Nigerians emigrate to. It is that dream that I would like to build for my children, for all of our children!



Well HeWrites, I pray a new uncorrupt leader who actually wants Nigeria's progress will enter the seat of power. But since independence have we had much of these? I don't want my great grandchildren to grow up repeating the same sayings their great great grandparents said "when will Nigeria reach its potential...". It seems a never ending cycle. Surely someone can break it. I personally have given up on government for now, I am more interested in what I can do.

I understand your point of view but you don't have to blame people who see their future outside Nigeria. The people who should inspire and lead this country to greatness don't even believe in the country.
From the President to senators, governors, ministers to the least political leaders go to hospital abroad, have their children school abroad, vacation abroad, have properties abroad etc.
We are soon entering graduation period, by May June, you will see these idiotic leaders showcasing themselves with their convocating children abroad while the average Nigeria languish in dilapidated schools and you expect an average Nigeria not to aspire to go there? It is not all about money

Saintp:


I understand your point of view but you don't have to blame people who see their future outside Nigeria. The people who should inspire and lead this country to greatness don't even believe in the country.
From the President to senators, governors, ministers to the least political leaders go to hospital abroad, have their children school abroad, vacation abroad, have properties abroad etc.
We are soon entering graduation period, by May June, you will see these idiotic leaders showcasing themselves with their convocating children abroad while the average Nigeria languish in dilapidated schools and you expect an average Nigeria not to aspire to go there? It is not all about money

Exactly

IbnIbrahim:


This is the kind of response I got from a friend.
Sincerely, to be successful in any business in Nigeria, You have to be tough and dogged in your pursuit

I'm telling you my brother. The issue is the way those whites package their country for us is like Paradise, Nigerians don't know what's going on there until we get there.
Those whites work like robot, some work day and night to makes some money.
How many Nigerian can do that?

I have a guy, the guy was very desperate to leave Nigeria, he has a barber shop here but due to frustration he sold all what he owned and relocate to ivory coast he said Nigeria is d only country where nothing is working. Now my guy is hawking bread on the street of adigjan just to save some money to return home, can't return without some cash because of shame

NeyofeedNigEnt:


I'm telling you my brother. The issue is the way those whites package their country for us is like Paradise, Nigerians don't know what's going on there until we get there.
Those whites work like robot, some work day and night to makes some money.
How many Nigerian can do that?

I have a guy, the guy was very desperate to leave Nigeria, he has a barber shop here but due to frustration he sold all what he owned and relocate to ivory coast he said Nigeria is d only country where nothing is working. Now my guy is hawking bread on the street of adigjan just to save some money to return home, can't return without some cash because of shame

So, you don't want to work? and you want to make money?

hok4u:


So, you don't want to work? and you want to make money?

What's this one saying. You better go back and read what I wrote.

Work hard in your country and live a very good life.

NeyofeedNigEnt:


What's this one saying. You better go back and read what I wrote.

Work hard in your country and live a very good life.

So an average graduate who earns 40K monthly salary and still being owed 3 months salary is not working hard in his country?

Or the civil workers in Kogi state and many other states in Nigeria being owed close to 6months salary are not working hard in their country?

How do we "work hard" in our country to enjoy a "very good life"?







Please note: You don't work hard you work smart.

NeyofeedNigEnt:


What's this one saying. You better go back and read what I wrote.

Work hard in your country and live a very good life.

By inhaling generator fumes daily.

hok4u:


So an average graduate who earns 40K monthly salary and still being owed 3 months salary is not working hard in his country?

Or the civil workers in Kogi state and many other states in Nigeria being owed close to 6months salary are not working hard in their country?

How do we "work hard" in our country to enjoy a "very good life"?







Please note: You don't work hard you work smart.

Bros my opinion is not on low class workers. I won't advice who's getting 100k monthly here to stay if he had an opportunity to travel abroad. Get my point very well, the debate is on middle class earning a million naira monthly and still migrating abroad to start all over again.
Our govt has damage this country but is not wise enough if making 500k and still migrate.

Saintp:


I understand your point of view but you don't have to blame people who see their future outside Nigeria. The people who should inspire and lead this country to greatness don't even believe in the country.
From the President to senators, governors, ministers to the least political leaders go to hospital abroad, have their children school abroad, vacation abroad, have properties abroad etc.
We are soon entering graduation period, by May June, you will see these idiotic leaders showcasing themselves with their convocating children abroad while the average Nigeria languish in dilapidated schools and you expect an average Nigeria not to aspire to go there? It is not all about money

I understand @Saintp. It really is very frustrating and it makes me angry and cautious of returning too. And I don't blame people for relocating at all. Afterall, I am the same ell77 who started the most popular thread helping people obtain tier 4 student visas in the UK!

The point I was just making is that making yourself comfortable in Nigeria by installing a solar panel is no more selfish than relocating (as long as you are not destroying the lives of others by doing so like politicians in Nigeria or Nigerians who turn to crime here). In both scenarios, it doesn't mean you are helping anyone outside of your household. Nigerians in diaspora or at home can help Nigerians.

Right now, I weep for Nigerians abroad who did not plan well and ran with emotion instead of planning with logic, there are ladies in Italy doing unspeakable things and people in Libya and other countries being sold . These are worse case scenarios and extremes but those people would have been better in Nigeria. We must remember that not everyone can leave Nigeria as professionals, if the next government does not improve Nigeria and if all the professionals go and don't help improve back home one of two things will happen:
(1) Nigeria will plummet into a downward spiral (God forbid)
(2) Poor Nigerians will run to countries that are easier to emigrate to and fall into the same traps as those being sold in modern day slavery.

If you really feel you need to leave Nigeria to become empowered to help Nigeria by all means do so. But don't think that you can run from your problems have your country fall apart or let the world know you for being a nation of 419ers, prostitutes and slaves and think this will nor taint your own image amongst other nationalities who have invested back in their own kind. The truth is it will unfortunately. If you must leave, plan well, have a view to invest back home and encourage others to invest back home also. If we cannot return to Nigeria as a paradise, at least our children should have it as an option/choice. The absence of that choice to me is scary!

hok4u:


So an average graduate who earns 40K monthly salary and still being owed 3 months salary is not working hard in his country?

Or the civil workers in Kogi state and many other states in Nigeria being owed close to 6months salary are not working hard in their country?

How do we "work hard" in our country to enjoy a "very good life"?







Please note: You don't work hard you work smart.

I really love this!

This is exactly what I am saying, Nigerians work very hard, in fact I don't know of any race that works harder. I'm talking in terms of household maintenance, studying, going to work etc. But a lot of what we do as a nation is based on the status quo. Are we just doing what our forefathers did (not all of which is relevant although a lot is) or are we working smart? The founder of IrokoTV is a millionaire because of a very simple business idea. He was broke in UK living in his mother's basement and through legal innovative business has changed his story. He partnered with someone to achieve this. I know someone who is an IT whizz whose friend told him the same idea years before IrokoTV was even in existence, the IT Whizz said "it would never work", he is still enjoying his 9 to 5 and I am sure that friendship may have ended by now! lol.

The point is, a lot of people are travelling to Canada now, for some it is simply because it is also a new trend, a new status quo. People always say it won't work, instead of how can we make this thing work in Nigeria!

I have met cases of such in Nigeria where people are working smart, but we need more people like this

NeyofeedNigEnt:


Bros my opinion is not on low class workers. I won't advice who's getting 100k monthly here to stay if he had an opportunity to travel abroad. Get my point very well, the debate is on middle class earning a million naira monthly and still migrating abroad to start all over again.
Our govt has damage this country but is not wise enough if making 500k and still migrate.

Baba, so far we don't have basic amenities in Nigeria, people will continue to migrate even if they earn 1milla monthly.

Just stroll from Tejuoso market in YAba to Ojuelegba flaunting your iPhone 7, if SARS won't wahala you, either you part with some fees or you have a family member in the military or para military that will save you.

Or you rushed a sick relative to hospital, you were told no doctor to attend to him, or you were given drugs to buy, you went to the hospital pharmacy, they tell you they don't have, you went outside to buy the drugs, you were sold fake drugs.

Baba, we have a lot of problems in this country that you can't solve by earning good salary, you can only use your good salary to ameliorate it.

If you've travelled out if this country to a more saner country, you will understand better that it's not about earning "good salary ".

I am currently doing an Msc in Advanced Process Integration and Design at the University of Manchester and i am making plans to relocate permenently to Canada.

Reason:

The nigerian government does not have a blue print neither does it value excellence. With what i know, I am sure that I, as well as many other professionals could put heads to provide solutions to some of the problems in the refineries that would increase the throughput. The refineries need a total overhaul. More efficient state-of the art refineries need to be in place if the cost of production is to be mininized and value added materials increased. Even though the government know this, their very inefficient bureaucracies will retard funding. Even if funding manages to tunnel its way out from the goverment, there are so many sheep in wolves clothing waiting to chop and clean mouth. I even have reasons to believe that some of these problems are largely artificially created. Our very short-sighted politicians will contrain those who are genuinely willing to provide their best to alleviate the current unpleasant predicament.

ell77:


I understand @Saintp. It really is very frustrating and it makes me angry and cautious of returning too. And I don't blame people for relocating at all. Afterall, I am the same ell77 who started the most popular thread helping people obtain tier 4 student visas in the UK!

The point I was just making is that making yourself comfortable in Nigeria by installing a solar panel is no more selfish than relocating (as long as you are not destroying the lives of others by doing so like politicians in Nigeria or Nigerians who turn to crime here). In both scenarios, it doesn't mean you are helping anyone outside of your household. Nigerians in diaspora or at home can help Nigerians.

Right now, I weep for Nigerians abroad who did not plan well and ran with emotion instead of planning with logic, there are ladies in Italy doing unspeakable things and people in Libya and other countries being sold . These are worse case scenarios and extremes but those people would have been better in Nigeria. We must remember that not everyone can leave Nigeria as professionals, if the next government does not improve Nigeria and if all the professionals go and don't help improve back home one of two things will happen:
(1) Nigeria will plummet into a downward spiral (God forbid)
(2) Poor Nigerians will run to countries that are easier to emigrate to and fall into the same traps as those being sold in modern day slavery.

If you really feel you need to leave Nigeria to become empowered to help Nigeria by all means do so. But don't think that you can run from your problems have your country fall apart or let the world know you for being a nation of 419ers, prostitutes and slaves and think this will nor taint your own image amongst other nationalities who have invested back in their own kind. The truth is it will unfortunately. If you must leave, plan well, have a view to invest back home and encourage others to invest back home also. If we cannot return to Nigeria as a paradise, at least our children should have it as an option/choice. The absence of that choice to me is scary!

If you hold another passport other than a Nigerian one, you're not fully a Nigerian. You're simply a Nigerian by convineance. These dual citizens need to stay in their lane. If you won't stand infront of these revolutionary changes you're suggesting, nobody will take you seriously suggesting them in the back of the line. In short come full ground to naija and start the movement or be quiet. It's easy to be positive while in a well developed U.K. And abroad is sweet; at least Canada.