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Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:39am On Apr 27, 2018
There is a worrisome development going on with the silence of SCIA and MURIC over the continued detention of El Zakzaky and the killing of Shiites who are protesting the incarceration of their leaders.



Is the Muslim body really one or is there a division which we can't see

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:41pm On Apr 27, 2018
QueenOfNepal:
There is a worrisome development going on with the silence of SCIA and MURIC over the continued detention of El Zakzaky and the killing of Shiites who are protesting the incarceration of their leaders.



Is the Muslim body really one or is there a division which we can't see

Why would you like to know? You are a Christian just stirring calm waters about! Well, those set of Shias are closer to Christians than Muslims. That's why Christians represent them not Muslims!

Muslims don't do processions blocking the road for long periods!
And Muslims are not terrorist, they do not terrorize their communities! See below for more.
Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Hibrahym: 5:42pm On Apr 27, 2018
1. Well, u don't protest in Islaam to begin with.
2. How did he get himself into that mess?

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by SaeedIbnEesa: 10:03pm On Apr 28, 2018
Shite are not Muslims

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by sorextee(m): 4:02am On Apr 29, 2018
Ever since their Prophet died, and the battle of who to continue with d mandate of the Prophet started, since then, the shiite ND d sunni have become enemies. According to history, the Prophet really wanted Ali to succeed him, but while Allah chose Abubakar. Countless wars have been fought there after. And I can't bliv it still transcends up till this era.

Someone up there said shias are terrorists. Let him name one terrorist group, a deadly one formed by the Shia. I'm sure he would say HEZBOLLAH. But HEZBOLLAH is not an extremist terrorist grp. Those guys main grudge is against Israeli treatment on Palestine.

But let's come down to the sunni. They have ISIS, AL-SHABAB, TALIBAN, BOKO HARAM, and many others. They all want everyone in the world to follow a view of Islam they deem correct. They kill on the basis of what they seem is Islamically right. (abi I lie)? They justify their terrorist act, with their fake hadiths.
They kill Muslims and non Muslim in brutal ways. I define them to be godless savages.

Some of the reasons why sunni hate the Shia is cos the shias don't have respect for some caliphs of the prophet, and dey don't have respect for one of the prophets wife. I think it's aisha or khadija(one of dem sha).

I've always said it here that if I were to be a Muslim, I would prefer the Shia sect.

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by sorextee(m): 4:08am On Apr 29, 2018
Make I no lie, the matter tire me too. I heard their leader was charged on the count of murder. To tell u how the sunnis hate the shias Here in dis country, if I, a Christian and a Shia counterpart were to run for president, I'm very sure I would win the election cos I know the sunni would vote for me. That's to tell u d lvl of hatred. grin

QueenOfNepal:
There is a worrisome development going on with the silence of SCIA and MURIC over the continued detention of El Zakzaky and the killing of Shiites who are protesting the incarceration of their leaders.



Is the Muslim body really one or is there a division which we can't see

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by SaeedIbnEesa: 6:23pm On Apr 30, 2018
Which one is sunni Muslims? There's just one type of Muslim.. Muslim noni.


Shite are not Muslims.. Make them kill all of them jare
Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Fundamentalist: 10:07pm On Apr 30, 2018
SaeedIbnEesa:
Which one is sunni Muslims? There's just one type of Muslim.. Muslim noni.


Shite are not Muslims.. Make them kill all of them jare

..... and they should include boko haram members like you too,whom are nuisance to us in nairaland and a cancer in our societies
Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Empiree: 12:13am On May 01, 2018
sorextee:
Make I no lie, the matter tire me too. I heard their leader was charged on the count of murder. To tell u how the sunnis hate the shias Here in dis country, if I, a Christian and a Shia counterpart were to run for president, I'm very sure I would win the election cos I know the sunni would vote for me. That's to tell u d lvl of hatred. grin

Muslims that have contributed in this thread so far are not that brilliant. Their knowledge and experience are premature even though they claim to follow "proper manhaj".

They violated sunnah (path) of Allah clearly stated in the Qur'an in Sura Imran verse 103


And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.



Imagine excuses they gave, that Muslims don't protest or there is no protest in Islam is their excuse for not reaching out to their brothers. See how pathetic they sound?. Is this a defense technic.



Even if they are kufar and are being maltreated by the authority, it is the responsibility of Muslim neighbors to rise and come to their aid. This is what Islam teaches. But today, they disregard order of Qur'an base on sectarian differences taught by their scholars.



The Glorious Qur’an further says:


“As for those who divide Their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.” [Al-Qur’an 6:159]



As you can see there hatred for that Shia sect solely based on the fact that they are different sect. Again, they violated order of Qur'an. God knows there will always be differences amongst humans so he wants us to put aside our differences especially in time like this.





Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’aala) also states;


إِنَّ هَذِهِ أُمَّتُكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَأَنَا رَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُونِ



“Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other)” [Al-Anbiyah: 92]




It is not their fault really. It is their scholars, especially one of them who was asked by his student if it is enough to call oneself a Muslim in this day and age?.

The scholar replied, "no, it is not enough to just call yourself a muslim. You must say: 'i am a Muslim upon Quran and sunnah base on the understanding of pious predecessors".


Any muslim who utters this incantation is considered a true Muslim and he's one of 'them'. They see other Muslims to be innovators if you are not on their methodology. So you can see clearly it was their scholar who died in the 90s and left this terrible mark of innovation on earth that caused problems modern youths face today. And that's what you are seeing here.


Yet the same people claimed to follow QUR'AN and sunnah and the understanding of earliest MUSLIMS while they disregard these clear cut verses of Glorious QUR'AN.


So excuses they give here is null and void bcuz if they can't aid their fellow muslims being prosecuted, at least they should be able to aid them on the ground of humanity. So clearly, their methodology is based on division amongst muslims. That's the legacy left behind by their scholars.

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Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by Rashduct4luv(m): 2:35pm On May 03, 2018
Empiree:
Muslims that have contributed in this thread so far are not that brilliant. Their knowledge and experience are premature even though they claim to follow "proper manhaj".

They violated sunnah (path) of Allah clearly stated in the Qur'an in Sura Imran verse 103


And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.



Imagine excuses they gave, that Muslims don't protest or there is no protest in Islam is their excuse for not reaching out to their brothers. See how pathetic they sound?. Is this a defense technic.



Even if they are kufar and are being maltreated by the authority, it is the responsibility of Muslim neighbors to rise and come to their aid. This is what Islam teaches. But today, they disregard order of Qur'an base on sectarian differences taught by their scholars.



The Glorious Qur’an further says:


“As for those who divide Their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.” [Al-Qur’an 6:159]



As you can see there hatred for that Shia sect solely based on the fact that they are different sect. Again, they violated order of Qur'an. God knows there will always be differences amongst humans so he wants us to put aside our differences especially in time like this.





Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’aala) also states;


إِنَّ هَذِهِ أُمَّتُكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَأَنَا رَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُونِ



“Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other)” [Al-Anbiyah: 92]




It is not their fault really. It is their scholars, especially one of them who was asked by his student if it is enough to call oneself a Muslim in this day and age?.

The scholar replied, "no, it is not enough to just call yourself a muslim. You must say: 'i am a Muslim upon Quran and sunnah base on the understanding of pious predecessors".


Any muslim who utters this incantation is considered a true Muslim and he's one of 'them'. They see other Muslims to be innovators if you are not on their methodology. So you can see clearly it was their scholar who died in the 90s and left this terrible mark of innovation on earth that caused problems modern youths face today. And that's what you are seeing here.


Yet the same people claimed to follow QUR'AN and sunnah and the understanding of earliest MUSLIMS while they disregard these clear cut verses of Glorious QUR'AN.


So excuses they give here is null and void bcuz if they can't aid their fellow muslims being prosecuted, at least they should be able to aid them on the ground of humanity. So clearly, their methodology is based on division amongst muslims. That's the legacy left behind by their scholars.




Kai! See chest beating! What kind of adhkhar have u been chanting this days?

No human will want his country man killed! And it's not only shiites being killed in the north! Muslims and Christians are being killed.

But it's not part of our manhaj to protest. And all the verses you quoted on one brotherhood and unity, what kind of brotherhood? A brotherhood on Kufr, Bid'ia, Shirk and sin right?

The Prophet said the ummah will be divided in to sects and only one will be saved. So no need to be united on falsehood!


Oga Soofee Empiree! See you quoting one salafy scholar again o! If i quote Sidna sheikh now or other Soofee Sheikh you would step on P.

Believe the Qur'an in totality not Cherry picking bro. Be sincere!

“O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم), if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination”

[al-Nisa’ 4:59]

“And in whatsoever you differ, the decision thereof is with Allaah (He is the ruling Judge)”

[al-Shoora 42:10].

“But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission”

[al-Nisa’ 4:65]

By Al‑‘Asr (the time).

2. Verily, man is in loss,

3. Except those who believe (in Islamic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth [i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al‑Ma‘roof) which Allaah has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al‑Munkar) which Allaah has forbidden], and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allaah’s Cause during preaching His religion of Islamic Monotheism or Jihad)”

[al-‘Asr 103:1-3]

“And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allaah (i.e. this Qur’aan), and be not divided among yourselves”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:103]
Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by AlBaqir(m): 2:48am On May 14, 2018
Empiree:
Muslims that have contributed in this thread so far are not that brilliant. Their knowledge and experience are premature even though they claim to follow "proper manhaj".

They violated sunnah (path) of Allah clearly stated in the Qur'an in Sura Imran verse 103


And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.



Imagine excuses they gave, that Muslims don't protest or there is no protest in Islam is their excuse for not reaching out to their brothers. See how pathetic they sound?. Is this a defense technic.



Even if they are kufar and are being maltreated by the authority, it is the responsibility of Muslim neighbors to rise and come to their aid. This is what Islam teaches. But today, they disregard order of Qur'an base on sectarian differences taught by their scholars.



The Glorious Qur’an further says:


“As for those who divide Their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.” [Al-Qur’an 6:159]



As you can see there hatred for that Shia sect solely based on the fact that they are different sect. Again, they violated order of Qur'an. God knows there will always be differences amongst humans so he wants us to put aside our differences especially in time like this.





Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’aala) also states;


إِنَّ هَذِهِ أُمَّتُكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَأَنَا رَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُونِ



“Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other)” [Al-Anbiyah: 92]




It is not their fault really. It is their scholars, especially one of them who was asked by his student if it is enough to call oneself a Muslim in this day and age?.

The scholar replied, "no, it is not enough to just call yourself a muslim. You must say: 'i am a Muslim upon Quran and sunnah base on the understanding of pious predecessors".


Any muslim who utters this incantation is considered a true Muslim and he's one of 'them'. They see other Muslims to be innovators if you are not on their methodology. So you can see clearly it was their scholar who died in the 90s and left this terrible mark of innovation on earth that caused problems modern youths face today. And that's what you are seeing here.


Yet the same people claimed to follow QUR'AN and sunnah and the understanding of earliest MUSLIMS while they disregard these clear cut verses of Glorious QUR'AN.


So excuses they give here is null and void bcuz if they can't aid their fellow muslims being prosecuted, at least they should be able to aid them on the ground of humanity. So clearly, their methodology is based on division amongst muslims. That's the legacy left behind by their scholars.




Thought provoking.
Re: Why Are Sunni Muslims Not Speaking Out Against The Killings On Shiite In Nigeria by blacq2009(m): 7:04pm On May 18, 2018
sorextee:
Ever since their Prophet died, and the battle of who to continue with d mandate of the Prophet started, since then, the shiite ND d sunni have become enemies. According to history, the Prophet really wanted Ali to succeed him, but while Allah chose Abubakar. Countless wars have been fought there after. And I can't bliv it still transcends up till this era.

Someone up there said shias are terrorists. Let him name one terrorist group, a deadly one formed by the Shia. I'm sure he would say HEZBOLLAH. But HEZBOLLAH is not an extremist terrorist grp. Those guys main grudge is against Israeli treatment on Palestine.

But let's come down to the sunni. They have ISIS, AL-SHABAB, TALIBAN, BOKO HARAM, and many others. They all want everyone in the world to follow a view of Islam they deem correct. They kill on the basis of what they seem is Islamically right. (abi I lie)? They justify their terrorist act, with their fake hadiths.
They kill Muslims and non Muslim in brutal ways. I define them to be godless savages.

Some of the reasons why sunni hate the Shia is cos the shias don't have respect for some caliphs of the prophet, and dey don't have respect for one of the prophets wife. I think it's aisha or khadija(one of dem sha).

I've always said it here that if I were to be a Muslim, I would prefer the Shia sect.

Allah and the Holy prophet can't disagree on an issue. " He (Muhammad) does not speak out of desire. Except by inspiration inspired". Allah chose Ali the prophet's successor, the prophet announced it but extremist companions said no. We shall know who's believer and who's unbeliever on the hereafter. Thanks.

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