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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 5:52pm On Apr 27, 2018
CSTR1003:

lol.

You want to me start listing the many names of Nigerians in Hollywood?
Actors and actresses that have won awards that lupita will never get.
There is even a Nigerian on the black panther casting.

You guys are so backward it is funny.

BTW, Nollywood is much bigger than that. It is Africa's biggest.

Don't insult it.
don't go there,because they would cry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:53pm On Apr 27, 2018
Our girl Lupita is in Lagos to investigate this fake GDP story grin

She better have her head at the end of her trip angry

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:53pm On Apr 27, 2018
Africa biggest smiley smiley - and it's totally earning if I am not wrong is 100M dollars. Eti genavine who grin

South Africa and Kenyan movies have won international awards. Nobody is interested in voodoo movies outside Nigeria.

CSTR1003:

lol.

You want to me start listing the many names of Nigerians in Hollywood?
Actors and actresses that have won awards that lupita will never get.
There is even a Nigerian on the black panther casting.

You guys are so backward it is funny.

BTW, Nollywood is much bigger than that. It is Africa's biggest.

Don't insult it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 5:54pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Here we go again with DANGOTE & PLANS.

Dangote is great. What he has done in Nigeria makes him even great. He is among the very few who've made in that market. Of course we have our own cement multinationals. Name any sector. Any industry. And we have vibrant sector.

Again it's not about PEOPLE. Populations. It's about how much money those people have and how much value you can provide.

Nigeria south is probably okayish but seriously speaking the whole north is just fulani-hausa herdsmen who are extremely poor! There is nothing there.

And again nothing stops our companies from expanding. We will eventually reach Nigeria (like Kenya Airways did) - we are now mostly Congo & waiting for Ethiopia to open up - n and eat you lunch. Britain has 80M people and eats the lunch of so many countries.

Having 140M extremely poor people is not consumer base.

Yes we have extremely poor people just the same way you have extremely poor people even with your tiny population.

But our middle class is much much bigger than your population as a whole.


MTN biggest market is in Nigeria They make more money in Nigeria than anywhere else including South Africa.

Lafarge cement made a loss this year in Eastern Africa. It was the gains they made in Nigeria that covered the losses.

You need to know facts like this to avoid talking nonsense.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:56pm On Apr 27, 2018
Yeap kindly spare us this agony

samsobo24:
don't go there,because they would cry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:00pm On Apr 27, 2018
Poor MTN - is that why you wanted to charge them 5B dollar fine. Yeah South Africans are making money out of you because you can't run a kiosk. They can't do that in Kenya. The Nigerians who've come to Kenya are even more hopeless...not a single nigeria bank in kenya will make a profit in the next decade...Dangote ran so fast.

Lafrage, Barclays, Stanchart and other Europe multinationals are having it very rough too. Kenyans indigenous companies are very competitive.

We will eventually come to Nigerians and kick out the South Africans & British - and eat your lunch.

CSTR1003:

Yes we have extremely poor people just the same way you have extremely poor people even with your tiny population.

But our middle class is much much bigger than your population as a whole.


MTN biggest market is in Nigeria They make more money in Nigeria than anywhere else including South Africa.

Lafarge cement made a loss this year in Eastern Africa. It was the gains they made in Nigeria that covered the losses.

You need to know facts like this to avoid talking nonsense.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:01pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Yeap kindly spare us this agony

yes,we. also show our culture and not only civilization.
Ask the Chinese,ask the Indians,ask other countries why they produce cultural movies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:02pm On Apr 27, 2018
That kind of backwardness explain why Nigeria is backward. That is not culture. That is retrogression. You think practise of vodoo and witchcraft is culture. It banned in kenya. Cultures such as female genital mulilation and withcraft just has no place in 21st century - not in India or China.
samsobo24:
yes,we. also show our culture and not only civilization.
Ask the Chinese,ask the Indians,ask other countries why they produce cultural movies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:02pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Yeap kindly spare us this agony


Is this a movie
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:03pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Africa biggest smiley smiley - and it's totally earning if I am not wrong is 100M dollars. Eti genavine who grin

South Africa and Kenyan movies have won international awards. Nobody is interested in voodoo movies outside Nigeria.

Nollywod is Africa's biggest, that is a fact.
It has more penetration in the Continent than any other movie industry.
It is one of Africa's success story.

Even if you think the worth is 1 KSH. It is still the biggest. And others are worth less than 1 KSH.

And right now, we have Iroko TV. The African Netflix.

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-25619458/nollywood-the-limitless-nigerian-film-scene

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28528396

You can see the way Nigerians are building the entire value chain in the movie industry.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by owbabs: 6:03pm On Apr 27, 2018
Check this out.

WE ARE NIGERIAN CREATIVES

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeAreNigerianCreatives?src=hash
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:04pm On Apr 27, 2018
Focus on serious things. Entertainment should come last when you don't have 140M poor people. You still have polio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Build your cattle value chain? Your cashwenuts value chain? Even your kola nuts value chain smiley
CSTR1003:

Nollywod is Africa's biggest, that is a fact.
It has more penetration in the Continent than any other movie industry.
It is one of Africa's success story.

Even if you think the worth is 1 KSH. It is still the biggest. And others are worth less than 1 KSH.

And right now, we have Iroko TV. The African Netflix.

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-25619458/nollywood-the-limitless-nigerian-film-scene

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28528396

You can see the way Nigerians are building the entire value chain in the movie industry.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:05pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Poor MTN - is that why you wanted to charge them 5B dollar fine. Yeah South Africans are making money out of you because you can't run a kiosk. They can't do that in Kenya. The Nigerians who've come to Kenya are even more hopeless...not a single nigeria bank in kenya will make a profit in the next decade...Dangote ran so fast.

Lafrage, Barclays, Stanchart and other Europe multinationals are having it very rough too. Kenyans indigenous companies are very competitive.

We will eventually come to Nigerians and kick out the South Africans & British - and eat your lunch.

You are a joke.

You can come when you are ever strong enough to compete.

At least it will create jobs. It shouldn't always be Nigerians creating the jobs for others.

Others should do the same for us too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:06pm On Apr 27, 2018
jason14:
what is this one saying? what is this one saying?

You can create a million monikers but you're still the same old slow boring loool guy who needs a chokeslam every time he pops up.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:07pm On Apr 27, 2018
It's tough place to do business...lots of extremely poor people...zero infrastructure...and generators. If I was to advice a company - I would totally avoid Nigeria. There are so many countries one can make money in Africa - Ethiopia if they open up - is 100M disciplined people who want to progress.
CSTR1003:

You are a joke.

You can come when you are ever strong enough to compete.

At least it will create jobs. It shouldn't always be Nigerians creating the jobs for others.

Others should do the same for us too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:08pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Focus on serious things. Entertainment should come last when you don't have 140M poor people. You still have polio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you see why I think you are an economic illiterate.

Entertainment contributes 2% to our GDP because it is a product that we export to other shores.

The day Kenya ever create an entertainment industry half the size of Nigeria's, you will know the importance.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:09pm On Apr 27, 2018
What for? Entertainment is the least of our concerns. And it should be for nigerians. Bigger fish to fry. The sector has ZERO multiplier. You have one entertainer making 10B dollars..and everyone else peanuts. There are industries to focus on...MANUFACTURING for starters has a multiplier of 10...the highest.
CSTR1003:

you see why I think you are an economic illiterate.

Entertainment contributes 2% to our GDP because it is a product that we export to other shores.

The day Kenya ever create an entertainment industry half the size of Nigeria's, you will know the importance.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:11pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
It's tough place to do business...lots of extremely poor people...zero infrastructure...and generators. If I was to advice a company - I would totally avoid Nigeria. There are so many countries one can make money in Africa - Ethiopia if they open up - is 100M disciplined people who want to progress.
And Kenya is Switzerland?

The number of foreign investors in Kenya is not half that of Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:13pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
What for? Entertainment is the least of our concerns. And it should be for nigerians. Bigger fish to fry. The sector has ZERO multiplier. You have one entertainer making 10B dollars..and everyone else peanuts. There are industries to focus on...MANUFACTURING for starters has a multiplier of 10...the highest.
Bigger fish to fry?

It is like Peru telling America it has bigger fish to fry.

You are funny.

BTW, did you say entertainment has zero multiplier potential? Your ignorance is world class.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:13pm On Apr 27, 2018
Kenya definitely turn the corner in 2002 and it's growing to become one of Africa biggest & most sophisticated economy.

As regard to foreign investors in Nigeria - outside OIL & fast moving consumer goods - I won't touch it with ten foot.

Yeah I think our companies will eventually come to sell milk, tomato paste grin and such products...that extremely poor people.

CSTR1003:

And Kenya is Switzerland?

The number of foreign investors in Kenya is not half that of Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:17pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Kenya definitely turn the corner in 2002 and it's growing to become one of Africa biggest & most sophisticated economy.

As regard to foreign investors in Nigeria - outside OIL & fast moving consumer goods - I won't touch it with ten foot.

Yeah I think our companies will eventually come to sell milk, tomato paste grin and such products...that extremely poor people.

You wouldn't because you are an economic illiterate.

Even beyond the oil, the scale of foreign investment in Nigeria in other non oil sectors dwarf yours.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:19pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Kenya definitely turn the corner in 2002 and it's growing to become one of Africa biggest & most sophisticated economy.

As regard to foreign investors in Nigeria - outside OIL & fast moving consumer goods - I won't touch it with ten foot.

Yeah I think our companies will eventually come to sell milk, tomato paste grin and such products...that extremely poor people.

When I remember east Africa, the only thing that comes to mind is drought ,famine and poverty. It is funny hearing you call citizens from Africa's biggest economy ,poor.


You guys are close to Somalia for fucvk sakes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:19pm On Apr 27, 2018
Multiplier is beyond your paygrade. How much people do you think hollywood has employed. Roughly about what one small factory can employ. Focus on stuff like light manufacturing - apparrel and textile - not fashion and nollywood.
CSTR1003:

Bigger fish to fry?

It is like Peru telling America it has bigger fish to fry.

You are funny.

BTW, did you say entertainment has zero multiplier potential? Your ignorance is world class.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:20pm On Apr 27, 2018
Put down the figures...of FDI flows to nigeria..outside what Mobil/Shell invest in extraction of OIL.
CSTR1003:

You wouldn't because you are an economic illiterate.

Even beyond the oil, the scale of foreign investment in Nigeria in other non oil sectors dwarf yours.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:23pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Multiplier is beyond your paygrade. How much people do you think hollywood has employed. Roughly about what one small factory can employ. Focus on stuff like light manufacturing - apparrel and textile - not fashion and nollywood.
Jesus, Who gave birth to this guy. ?

You don't have an entertainment industry, so you can't possibly understand.

Look at our movie industry for example, from the cast to the cinematographers , to hotels used, e.t.c.Thousands of jobs are created.

And I have not included the vendors and marketers who also have a stake.

You are ignorant.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by CSTR1003: 6:26pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Put down the figures...of FDI flows to nigeria..outside what Mobil/Shell invest in extraction of OIL.
The information is online. I assume you can check for yourself and then compare.

How you possibly believe tiny and insignificant Kenya will have more investors in any major sector than Nigeria is funny.
How much will the investor recoup?
That can only happen if Kenya is Switzerland .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:28pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
Poor MTN - is that why you wanted to charge them 5B dollar fine. Yeah South Africans are making money out of you because you can't run a kiosk. They can't do that in Kenya. The Nigerians who've come to Kenya are even more hopeless...not a single nigeria bank in kenya will make a profit in the next decade...Dangote ran so fast.

Lafrage, Barclays, Stanchart and other Europe multinationals are having it very rough too. Kenyans indigenous companies are very competitive.

We will eventually come to Nigerians and kick out the South Africans & British - and eat your lunch.

UBA Kenya, a subsidiary of UBA Nigeria already is making profits and growing. It's a small first step but I trust Nigerians, we will continue to prise open Kenya's pretty but stubborn legs until we dominate your banking sector. You should have a healthy fear of us.


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000160984/uba-bank-reports-first-profit-in-six-years

UBA Bank reports first profit in six years
By Dominic Omondi
Published: May 3rd 2015 at 23:59, Updated: May
3rd 2015 at 23:59
   
UBA Bank Kenya has recorded a profit of Sh2.9
million in March 2015, up from a loss of Sh50.9
million in the same period last year. This represents
a 105.7 per cent growth.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:29pm On Apr 27, 2018
CSTR1003:

Jesus, Who gave birth to this guy. ?

You don't have an entertainment industry, so you can't possibly understand.

Look at our movie industry for example, from the cast to the cinematographers , to hotels used, e.t.c.Thousands of jobs are created.

And I have not included the vendors and marketers who also have a stake.

You are ignorant.

You use china phones to shoot your juju movies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 27, 2018
CSTR1003:




You guys are close to Somalia for fucvk sakes.

And you guys are so close to the north ! You share the same country with the North which is basically Somalia's cousin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:33pm On Apr 27, 2018
CSTR1003:

The information is online. I assume you can check for yourself and then compare.

How you possibly believe tiny and insignificant Kenya will have more investors in any major sector than Nigeria is funny.
How much will the investor recoup?
That can only happen if Kenya is Switzerland .
Their insignificant size,economy and otherwise is what annoys them so much. Their women are going blind watching nollywood and the men are here on nairaland, another Nigerian entertainment and info brand.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:40pm On Apr 27, 2018
rvp20182:
First I when I said Nigeria GDP was over-cooked this was merely an hunch based on all COMMONSENSE - but the more I digged in the more I was convinced it was totally over-baked.Okay I guess all that didn't prepare for the SHOCK I got 1hr ago when I actually took the trouble to check GDP figures from the SOURCE.

Okay so at it's apex (and now) - NIgeria GDP was 500B plus grin grin grin Impressive yeah.

Dig down a little bit.... Agriculture (farming), Fishing and Forestry accounts for what WHOOPING 40% of that GDP. Forget that Nigeria's agriculture long collapsed for a second...and actually the talk is to revive?

So just stop there. Nigeria Agri/Fishing & Forest is 40% of 500B. That is 200B dollars worth of GDP right there.

I am not sure which country in planet earth has really BIG AGRICLUTURE/FISHING/FORESTRY - But I started from US ( I think Netherland, Brazil, Russia, Canada etc are some good examples).

And you know when I checked..US's FARMING, FISHING AND FORESTRY HAS NEVER BEEN WORTH 200B dollars.
[img]https://policyinterns.files./2015/06/imagegen-ashx.png?w=374&h=299[/img]

In short Nigerians are telling us their AGRICULTURE/FISHING/FARMING IS WAY BIGGER THAN US. US that probably has 10 times Nigeria farm land...and 10 or 20 times it's productivity.

THIS IS TRULY NIGERIAN. I mean 401 Nigeria con. It's audacious. I'll next check Brazil Agriculture GDP - Netherlands? just for the laugh of it. Apparently Nigeria has the world BIGGEST agriculture and we didn't even know grin grin grin grin

And to make it even more hilarous - their biggest part of that agricluture is wait a minute PEANUTS grin grin and well some ground nuts, simsim and throw in some cassava, yam & well some cattle.

And just before we check say Brazil - which has huge agriculture - huge fishing - and Amazon forest - remember the peanut 200B worth of agriculture that Nigeria boast about IMPORT BASICALLY all it's food - rice, wheat, milk, tomato paste grin - name anything - the agriculture basically long collapsed - and all petrol dollars are used to import food.
Where do you get your data from? If oil accounts for 10% of our gdp , services account for 40%, and industry accounts for around 30, how then can agriculture account for 40%?You are a disgrace to Kenyan education.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:47pm On Apr 27, 2018
grin grin grin - sorry again this beyond you.nollywood is crap. won't grow anybody's economy.
CSTR1003:


Look at our movie industry for example, from the cast to the cinematographers , to hotels used, e.t.c.Thousands of jobs are created.

And I have not included the vendors and marketers who also have a stake.

You are ignorant.

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