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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:48pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2:Beat your chest and tell me that Welbeck was the better choice for that wing throughout that game. Iwobi have done more than 3players Vs Argentina. he passed thru 5players at once and didn't go down. Against Chelsea too, he passed thru 4players, Cahill and Kante inclusive. So it's now 3rough defenders he won't pass thru or at least get a PK out of them ![]() It's no hype, but we both know who the better dribbler of the ball is in such tight spaces. Welbeck failed to do his job at that wing and so Monreal had to fill in such role... Stop making Welbeck look like he's one good player. He's average to me. 2goals against Cska is not going to change my view about him anyday. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:51pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
andrew444:Even Xavier has been average in some of the games he played in his career. it's now Wilshere that would be consistent? lol. Don't mind the English media, that guy would get extra drill from any coach asides Wenger. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:54pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: Iwobi hasn't even scored two goals against Crystal palace and you want to start him over someone who is in form? do you want me to start giving you instances of when Welbeck beat more than one player? this shows that you didn't watch the Arsenal CSKA game because he did. Which match against Chelsea did he pass 4 players and what was the outcome? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:55pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
[quote author=Mickael2 post=67080309] can't you just say that the Atletico fullback was a stalwart on the day? I mean this is a team with one of the best defences in the world, Arsenal created chances, plenty if chances which shows that the team was doing okay, all they needed was a goalscorer, is it Iwobi that would have scored the goals? Welbeck remains a bigger goal threat than Iwobi any day [/Quote]One of the crosses that came from that side made Lacazette rise high to score. All due respect to Atletico, they defended well, and I'm not saying they didn't. I'm just on the tactics. Welbeck couldn't have done anything meaningful Vs the best defence in Europe without being a dribbler. Once you have such stalwarts, you resort to some dribbling cos of the speed at which they close down. simple. Gimme Iwobi and Welbeck to choose who would be a goal threat, and I'll pick none. trust me. arms folded. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:56pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Kog45:But he played down our chances Against Argentina |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:58pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: this shows how much you know about coaching. haven't you heard that some players are made for the big moments? if you are losing you dare not sub out your best player na or your main goal scorer rather you complement them, no sane coach would take out Messi or Ronaldo when his team is trailing, heck in 2012 or so against PSG, an injured Messi was subbed in when Barca were losing, guess what? with only one good leg he played a shot which the GK parried and that led to the equaliser and Barca scaled through |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:02pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
[quote author=daveP post=67085818][/quote] over the years Ronaldo has been scoring against ATM not because he knows how to dribble( he lost that years ago) but because he knows how to exploit spaces. You dare not come to beat Atleti players one on one, that's time wasting, you keep it simple until a channel opens up. if you try to dribble them that's your death, one turn over and a quick counter and that's a goals. like you rightly pointed it, Welbeck was disposed for a goal, now just imagine if Iwobi was there and he tried like six times, trust me Arsenal would have conceded more than once |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:04pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2:Im not saying Iwobi is the better of the two. Iwobi has a lot to still learn. But for that very flank Vs Atletico, when they began to defend En masse, as a coach who would you deploy to breakdown such discipline, a ball holder or a dribbler? All crosses that came Vs from his flank was by Ozil or Monreal. This is a Welbeck that when he attempted dribbling, he lost possession and that led to Griezmann getting an equalizer. I watched both legs of the Cska game, and I call that a flash in the pan. Vs Chelsea, the outcome led to a 4on 2 situation that Ramsey couldn't bury. 4arsenal Vs 2chelsea players. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:06pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2:Bros, I respect people as much I respect myself. But don't do something that will annoy me this night. I reminded everyone that this thread is not for Arsenal and Atletico for Christ's sake. go and open this your fussy annoying Arsenal Atleti thread. I be gentleman but I no day miss my target when it comes to connecting a Guilder bottle for person head o [hehehe] |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:07pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2:Really? Don't take it to far, you know what I mean...... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:08pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
MetalJigsaw:Abeg remember my head too. I get helmet sha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:11pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2: (exhales) It's okay... when me and you know that this is not a Barça with a Xavi , an Iniesta, a Messi that dribbles, and a Busquets. That's the only team in the world now that can be doing such patience and waiting for a loophole, and when it opens, it still must use some Lil dribbles from Messi to get a result in tight angles. Cmon man. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:15pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: Lol,but hope you know I am talking about the great xavi ? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:18pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
andrew444:Sure the same almighty Xavi, Protector of the Barça Realm And Hand of the King Leo Messi. ![]() ![]() He's had bad games too. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:19pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP:haaaaaa!! Helmet ke? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:19pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: Did you see the list of players on Arsenal's bench? Talking about drillbles, Ramsey, Wilshere and Ozil are all drillers. We needed a direct player in that attack which was what Wilbeck was there for. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:22pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Icon4s:I used to respect people like you o. *starts searching for a bottle but sights a cutlass* |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:23pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
MetalJigsaw:yes na, when you want to start doing some "atemtyough" aka breaking of heads. na safety first na. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:24pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: Lol yeah all players got bad games 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:25pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Icon4s: This is a very interesting revelation. very Interesting one. I'm out. Back to Papi Rohrs GWG matters. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:36pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
daveP: Hahaha, who do you define as a dribbler? Or what do you refer to as dribbling? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:37pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
MetalJigsaw: I guess that bottle or cutlass na to shave your hair abi? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:54pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Icon4s: I respect Wenger so much but when the other team goes a man down u normally do something with the extra man. Besides Ozil Iwobi is the best creator on that squad and every Nigerian should know he scores big goals especially when they are needed. Well at least they won't blame him this way. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:54pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Icon4s:Why are you bent on derailing this thread for us? why? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:03pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Mickael2: That's a fib. Iwobi did everything you've just asked against Chelsea in the league cup. He can play that type of game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:04pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
MetalJigsaw: Bros na joke na. Take am easy abeg. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:08pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
kentebemoney: That's why he has been playing in the Isreali league for the past near 4 years. Ogu can not be compared to Dembele. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:13pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
kentebemoney: Ogu is a decent player but he is not the same type of player as Dembele. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:25pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Ogu is exactly that a decent player, but the comparison given implies a top level player. It's a reflection of the depths to which we have fallen, when we consider Ogu a top quality player. Because we simply do not have many anymore. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:35pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
komekn: On the contrary, i think we are seeing a revival of some sorts in the quality of players coming through. I think, we will see some top Nigerian players in the next few years. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 9:42pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
komekn:Where i compare them? Ogu is a type of dembele player. Both are left footed good with short passes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:54pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
komekn: Lol who dey compare dembele of Tottenham and ogu? 1 Like |
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