I was a member of MFM for more than 12years until I realized that the greatest enemy you can have is yourself. Till this day I have never regretted leaving that church and I can tell you with great confidence that majority of people diagnosed with mental illness are Christians and a large percentage of them are members of MFM ( am talking based on personal experience). If you are not careful, the toxic messages and prayer points can result to mental illness whereby you feel someone is holding your destiny down or every cockroach in your house was sent from the underworld. Please be careful, your mental health is important to your well being.

pato255:
Religion is the bane of Nigeria's development.
In fact, it is the commander-in-chief of Africa's problems.

An average Nigerian has a very mystical approach to life. and life is not mystical, it is very practical.

Now, don't get me wrong, prayer is quite important. but why do Nigerians always seek divine intervention for what Common sense can solve? Wisdom is actually key; and a lot of Nigerians are expert in all 'these fire prayers', and I ask, where has that gotten us? We believe in the atomic release of the energy of our prayers, but things still remain the same. shouldn't that tell us that the problem is more about how we live our lives rather than some demon somewhere?

Imagine going to some mountain to pray in the midnight for one enemy to die and for your business to thrive without having read at least one literature on business growth. Has the enemy not won already?

funny story: A little boy and his father was passing through one of them fire prayer churches... and the boy told his father: why are these people always here praying for their enemies to die? don't they have jobs? the father smiled and replied... God must be an expensive assassin.

Please, pray. but think also.

I am so glad that we are having more and more Nigerians who think like you do and are now challenging the religious norms.

I was born and bred in this kind of christian fire prayer home. Now, I still believe very much in prayer and the existence of a spiritual world, but I have also learnt that not every thing that we spiritualize is actually spiritual. A lot of things could be achieved with common sense, thinking patterns, physical and tactical approaches.

hopefulLandlord:
Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt


If Olukoya were Ray Croc's pastor, Ray would've died killing witches and wizards with prayers day after day

If Olukoya were Edison's pastor he would've spent the rest of his life fighting spiritual battles cuz he was declared "Too dumb to learn anything" by his teachers

Sir James Dyson who failed in business over 5000 attempts before succeeding would've died in church fighting witches and wizards if he were an MFM member

I really have pity on them, they live the most pathetic lives anyone could ever imagine, a constant life of fear. Living a paranoid life, a state of mental illness called schizophrenia.

Christians have lost touch with reality, lost touch with what makes life worth living for. Appreciating the beauty of nature, sunset and sunrise, appreciating that life is unpredictable. Seeing other creatures as just the beauty of life that should be appreciated and not be seen as objects of fear and curses.

I see a bat in my room at night, I chase it out and sleep peacefully, an mfm sees a bat and begins to scream die by fire all night long, having sleepless nights plus days of fasting....he later dies of hbp or stroke while I continue to enjoy the essence of life. What a pity to be so gullible, what a shame to be so ignorant...A disaster to be so foolish and yet not know it

Chris Nwabueze Ndu killed it with this piece.

Read and have sense.

.. He was told that his business is not doing well and his struggling in life is because of family/ancestral curses.

That his forefathers made some sacrifices and buried things that has been affecting his life...

He needs special deliverance!

Jesus died for your sin and resurrected over 1900 years ago, Your forefathers died less than 500 years ago. Blood of Jesus is older than your ancestors. But, Despite being a Christian for years,The sin of your ancestors is so powerful that it found its way to you.

The Hitler led Germany between 1936-1945 murdered 6 million Jews and millions of others in Europe. Germany is the richest Country in Europe as we speak. Ancestral curses have no hold on anyone there.

Descendants of those that ruled then are there living good lives despite the sins of their forefathers. People don't go to their houses to uproot charms buried by their ancestors.

USA is the richest country in the world. Slaves were chained from Africa to America and many were murdered and those that survived suffered and worked to death. The descendants of slave owners and mass murderers are living normal lives. The sins of their forefathers as bad as they were have no business with them.

Yet, An Igbo man is told that his forefathers were so bad that what they did years ago is holding their success.

Our forefathers have been lied against by jollof rice loving prophets just to cash in.
Of what use is your claim of being a Christian if you believe that you are being held captive by some things you don't even know?

That's how they go to families and plunge them into wars by accusing a family member of being responsible for the hardship of everyone there.

Before you invite anyone into your family home with shovels to dig out anything, Ask yourself if the power of God is capable of neutralising anything and rendering it powerless?
If the power of God can destroy evil powers wherever they are, Why are they desperate to come to your house and dig out something to show you?

Why are they always seeing things for you?

That's the game! Frighten you with failure and disasters and then in your panic, You do as you are told. Cook Jollof rice, Cash for prayers and after few gra-gra, they dig out something and everyone is excited.

Be a Christian and live like one.

The blood of Jesus that saved you from sin can deliver you from any evil connection.
Your feet stepping on those grounds will render anything there powerless.

You don't need magic, You don't need to pay anyone to save you from your ancestors.
The power is with you already.

Only in Nigeria we hear stuff like that simply because fear is tormenting many religious people. Your ancestors are not holding your success, Go and get yourself a job.
Hustle hard and get over it.

Let's not confuse the state sponsored hardship in Nigeria with ancestral curses.
If Nigeria improves and creates a welfare system where everyone is well looked after as it is in the West, You won't hear those rubbish.

I'm yet to hear anyone in England suffering from ancestral/generational curses despite what their ancestors did in Africa and other places in the world.
Stop the play.

The Jollof rice loving prophets are cashing in on the system.

Ana adịghị mma bụ uru ndi nze.

psychologist:
I hate nairaland on Sunday mornings
I am a devoted Christian, but all of all this ignorance and assembly of atheist's sickens me and is migraine inducing

as in eh...sometimes you will read the ones that will make you look like a devil as in hell candidate like u ve not even started worshipping God

Whether you pray or not, there will always be challenges.

psychologist:
I hate nairaland on Sunday mornings
I am a devoted Christian, but all of all this ignorance and assembly of atheist's sickens me and is migraine inducing

Do you know what it takes to appreciate life, to take a walk in a garden, admire the beautiful sunset and sunrise. Do you know what it feels to appreciate that humans live for what they desire and not by some archaic rules and fear of some gods. Knowing that we are the custodians of our own destiny, not some enemies as bats, cockroaches and old people living their lives in the villages.


My point is this, you are a disgrace to your moniker, most challenges faced by Christians termed as spiritual are simple psychological problems and prayer points from churches like mfm don't solve anything but only worsen situations..

Yoclan:




Source: https://olukoya.com.ng/secret-mfm-fire-prayers-start-praying/

the secret behind mfm prayers are that they are a repackaged form of witchcraft.

lakesider:
Nobody prays this prayer here in germany ...
Yet nobody is hungry ...
We need to stop praying and start working .....

When u are Nigeria u need to pray harder maka ndi n'efe n'abani but once e cross uru obodo oyibo ekpele e'seize go if u know u know.

myxxdenyi:

as in eh...sometimes you will read the ones that will make you look like a devil as in hell candidate like u ve not even started worshipping God

That is why u don't have to be weak keep praying for them to see light

The Jesus Christ i know in the bible, who is the nearest person connected to all these spirituality, is very humble, quiet, non violent and compassionate person as He walked among the humans.He instructed Peter to sheath his sword and healed His enemy ear chopped off by Peter. He loved His enemies and prayed for them. i wonder where all these modern day pastors got their kill and die doctrine from, is obviously not from Christ, who is the nearest person to God for us. Nothing on this earth will shift my belief from what Christ taught as was recorded by Bible.

[quote author=mustmust post=67320236]Fire fire die die die

Ronaldinnioh:
Rev David King. For burning sinners in his Church. He is my mentor.

Pray like this: Every spirit of destruction within me die in the name of Jesus name

Yoclan:


The Holy Spirit showed me a dream this morning which inspired this message. In the dream, I saw a dog chained by its owners. But the dog was not comfortable with the chain, and struggled to free himself from the chain. The owners of the dog were not happy with the Dog’s determination to free itself and attempted to tighten the chain.

But the Dog also refused to accept its position and barked at its owners, and struggled the more violently to free itself, jumping and forcing itself forwards

Source: https://olukoya.com.ng/secret-mfm-fire-prayers-start-praying/

So what is the moral of this story, that owners of dogs should not take cautions in ensuring their pets do no endanger the safety of innocent people? I have a dog and I ensure the chain is properly fixed so it won't attack people while I take it for a walk.

Young man, wake up to reality. your holy madness can be cured

psychologist:
I hate nairaland on Sunday mornings
I am a devoted Christian, but all of all this ignorance and assembly of atheist's sickens me and is migraine inducing

Why not ignore nairaland on Sunday mornings and go to church?

hopefulLandlord:
Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt


If Olukoya were Ray Croc's pastor, Ray would've died killing witches and wizards with prayers day after day

If Olukoya were Edison's pastor he would've spent the rest of his life fighting spiritual battles cuz he was declared "Too dumb to learn anything" by his teachers

Sir James Dyson who failed in business over 5000 attempts before succeeding would've died in church fighting witches and wizards if he were an MFM member

You are just blabbing. Don't wait until you experience attack before you start praying. Think deep, there is huge difference between hopeful landlord and accomplished landlord.
Pray like this: Every power frustrating my effort die by fire in Jesus name

unless you have seen beyond the physical these prayers won't make sense to you.

pato255:
Religion is the bane of Nigeria's development.
In fact, it is the commander-in-chief of Africa's problems.

An average Nigerian has a very mystical approach to life. and life is not mystical, it is very practical.

Now, don't get me wrong, prayer is quite important. but why do Nigerians always seek divine intervention for what Common sense can solve? Wisdom is actually key; and a lot of Nigerians are expert in all 'these fire prayers', and I ask, where has that gotten us? We believe in the atomic release of the energy of our prayers, but things still remain the same. shouldn't that tell us that the problem is more about how we live our lives rather than some demon somewhere?

Imagine going to some mountain to pray in the midnight for one enemy to die and for your business to thrive without having read at least one literature on business growth. Has the enemy not won already?

funny story: A little boy and his father was passing through one of them fire prayer churches... and the boy told his father: why are these people always here praying for their enemies to die? don't they have jobs? the father smiled and replied... God must be an expensive assassin.

Please, pray. but think also.

I pray that God will open your eyes to the knowledge of the truth

I prefer the kind of prayer taught by Jesus and not this Nigerian version. ( Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us). The Nigerian version is filled with so much hatred.

deebrownneymar:
Is that why you people always pray for your enemies to die by fire?

Your enemy is not human being but spiritual forces within, around and over you that do not want your well being

The physiology of the female human makes them highly emotional and easily gullible to religion. If you notice through comments women are easily brainwashed with unhealthy spiritual doctrines

Fear God & keep His commandment & you wouldn't necessarily be praying kill am die routinely

Look closely, we our own enemy in Nigeria/Africa

If we can get our political leadership right, other things will work out. We need the fear of God & not these church/mosque ritual going we are doing for the sake of "I be Christian or Muslim"

All Nigeria looters are either Christians or Muslims

Like someone said in a thread we need things like Justice, Mercy, Love and Righteousness

A girl will fuckjk out her youth deliberately with 5000 dicks & goes to the Church to hook up innocent man. Other girls will be encouraged in that lifestyle because the slogan now is that there is nothing God cannot do. They will never tell you about the unlucky ones. The opposite is true for fuckaholic boys

@op you have been Liberated. Go and celebrate

jolly94:
The physiology of the female human makes them highly emotional and easily gullible to religion. If you notice through comments women are easily brainwashed with unhealthy spiritual doctrines

Women are emotional thinkers not rational thinkers
If you want to build a church try and win women and your church will blossom
When the British first explored Africa. They said they explored the whole of Africa and they have not seen one beggar. The only way to conquer Africa is to uproot their spiritual value. Imagine a race that enslaved us showing us the way to heaven, my brother Christianity has alot of scams in it.
I just discovered of recent that the virgin Mary theory is even a big scam.
There is the historical Jesus and Gnostic Jesus both are mixed in the Bible.

'Holy madness'

" The Bible recognizes the Devil as the ruler of the kingdom of the air" So God the creator of everything conceded rulership to him or what?

staggerman:
Spiritual warfare is not about making noise and shaking your body violently.
The real warfare is in your mind, your thoughts, your beliefs.

Hack the mind into freedom.

jolly94:
The physiology of the female human makes them highly emotional and easily gullible to religion. If you notice through comments women are easily brainwashed with unhealthy spiritual doctrines

Go go today's churches and see them in large numbers screaming I Receive It.

God is not a hired assassin that will kill his own creation. Some people have been praying these prayers for over 10 years but their life remain miserable. Why not focus on the physical aspect that you are facing instead of attributing your problems to a non existent enemy.

Proud omo Olukoya. My entire life is better for praying fire fire prayers.

Your comments are exactly what an agent of darkness would say

hopefulLandlord:
Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt


If Olukoya were Ray Croc's pastor, Ray would've died killing witches and wizards with prayers day after day

If Olukoya were Edison's pastor he would've spent the rest of his life fighting spiritual battles cuz he was declared "Too dumb to learn anything" by his teachers

Sir James Dyson who failed in business over 5000 attempts before succeeding would've died in church fighting witches and wizards if he were an MFM member

oyetunder:
Note however, not all prayer points are meant for everybody. Praying some prayers points is like enslaving yourself again. Do not use your mouth to apply problems you do not have to your life. And it is a serious problems when you need a prayer handbook full of prayer points before you can talk to your own Father. Sad, many have been busy praying the fire prayer every year trying to tell the same forces to die..die..and die.

listen to this. (1)IT'S save to over pray but under pray at your own detriment. it's very wise to command spirit wife out of your life even if you don't have then to have and keep quite(2) it's crystal clear that spirit or demons do not die. but mind you the word die has several meaning. if you buy a dead drug it simply means an expired drug. to die means to stop working, to die means to lose force, death means to come to an end. death means to stop function etc. you may not understand the prayers but the demons understood it.