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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 10:41pm On May 06, 2018
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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 11:03pm On May 06, 2018
Miremoses1:
true, I think that's one of the reasons zizou usually gives him a rest,To know how the team will do without him . We can't have another Ronaldo but we can make a photocopy. Eg is vinicus Jr. His not ronaldo but I think he can fill in when ronaldo retires.

Zizou already gives him enough rest, maybe too much rest even.

We can't replace Ronaldo. But we should be able to boss Barca with 10 men when CR7 is not on the pitch, but that didn't happen. It's a struggle that stretches back to the beginning of the season. This is the core reason why winning the league is often too much for us to handle and why we've continually fumbled in the cup.

Hopefully our attacking buys this summer solves this problem.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by A40(m): 11:06pm On May 06, 2018
Miremoses1:
Only Jah will punish Barcelona.

Ref and Suarez deserves life ban from football.

usbcable:


Alba fouled Marcelo in the 18 yard box no penalty called.

Dippsset will start running his mouth about one silly Laliga president like Pique


Miremoses1:
even my home boy who is a Basket baller who knows nothing about football was baffled with what suafool(Suarez) did. Same with the refs bizarre decisions.


usbcable:
Refalona

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 11:08pm On May 06, 2018
Miremoses1:
true, I think that's one of the reasons zizou usually gives him a rest,To know how the team will do without him . We can't have another Ronaldo but we can make a photocopy. Eg is vinicus Jr. His not ronaldo but I think he can fill in when ronaldo retires.


Forget those Brazilians, they are never serious.

No Brazilian player can match Cr7 dedication, zeal, hardwork and being fit physically at his age.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 11:12pm On May 06, 2018
Apart from the goal Bale scored, he was totally useless.
Can't control ball. Can't give precise pass.
Bale should be sold..Benzema has really improved.
Perez get me Mbappe.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:28pm On May 06, 2018
Marcelo needs serious lectures. Dude has nothing to offer defensively.

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:31pm On May 06, 2018
LordAdam:


Zizou already gives him enough rest, maybe too much rest even.

We can't replace Ronaldo. But we should be able to boss Barca with 10 men when CR7 is not on the pitch, but that didn't happen. It's a struggle that stretches back to the beginning of the season. This is the core reason why winning the league is often too much for us to handle and why we've continually fumbled in the cup.

Hopefully our attacking buys this summer solves this problem.

-Lord
@bolded. Who do you think will boost our attack next season? Don't even mention lewandowski here.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:35pm On May 06, 2018
monerozi5590:
Apart from the goal Bale scored, he was totally useless.

Can't control ball. Can't give precise pass.

Bale should be sold..Benzema has really improved.

Perez get me Mbappe.
bale was very quiet today, his goal saved him tho.

Benzema is underrated.

Can we really get mbappe?, I think psg will soon pay his transfer fee since they weren't relegated.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Unlimited22: 11:41pm On May 06, 2018
Miremoses1:
Marcelo needs serious lectures. Dude has nothing to offer defensively.

Continue ignoring the fact that he more often than not has no help defensively.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 12:09am On May 07, 2018
Miremoses1:
@bolded. Who do you think will boost our attack next season? Don't even mention lewandowski here.

Any of the rumored names except Lewandowski.

monerozi5590:
Apart from the goal Bale scored, he was totally useless.

Can't control ball. Can't give precise pass.

Bale should be sold..Benzema has really improved.

Perez get me Mbappe.


Miremoses1:
bale was very quiet today, his goal saved him tho.

Benzema is underrated.

Can we really get mbappe?, I think psg will soon pay his transfer fee since they weren't relegated.

Maybe you didn't see all the runs Bale made with no one passing to him like it was a conspiracy. Especially that Asensio opening to him in acres of space before the Suarez foul on Varane/Messi goal. One good pass and he scores a beauty.

Benzema is now a playmaker. He has lost most of his striker's instincts. Unfortunately, we need goals, and he isn't scoring as many as he should. I like his style of play but he should be our second highest goal scorer. If Ronnie isn't on the pitch, he should be our most dangerous player upfront, but that isn't the case.

Unlimited22:

Continue ignoring the fact that he more often than not has no help defensively.

Let's stop making excuses for Marcelo. We almost crashed out of the UCL twice because of him running out of position. It happened again today. At what point do we start making him take responsibility for these gaffes.

The main issue is not even him running out of position, that's to be expected from him going forward. It is his shabby recovery that irks me. Between himself and Kroos, I don't know who is slower/faster.

And he gets help defensively. Ramos often tries to cover for him and Kroos/Asensio often help him defensively. It's gotten to a point where we know we'd be defo be punished (or close) from his wing in every single game. Whether it's against Bayern or Malaga.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 5:33am On May 07, 2018
LordAdam:


Any of the rumored names except Lewandowski.






Maybe you didn't see all the runs Bale made with no one passing to him like it was a conspiracy. Especially that Asensio opening to him in acres of space before the Suarez foul on Varane/Messi goal. One good pass and he scores a beauty.

Benzema is now a playmaker. He has lost most of his striker's instincts. Unfortunately, we need goals, and he isn't scoring as many as he should. I like his style of play but he should be our second highest goal scorer. If Ronnie isn't on the pitch, he should be our most dangerous player upfront, but that isn't the case.



Let's stop making excuses for Marcelo. We almost crashed out of the UCL twice because of him running out of position. It happened again today. At what point do we start making him take responsibility for these gaffes.

The main issue is not even him running out of position, that's to be expected from him going forward. It is his shabby recovery that irks me. Between himself and Kroos, I don't know who is slower/faster.

And he gets help defensively. Ramos often tries to cover for him and Kroos/Asensio often help him defensively. It's gotten to a point where we know we'd be defo be punished (or close) from his wing in every single game. Whether it's against Bayern or Malaga.

-Lord


No one is helping him out defensively.


Do you think is easy to be running the flank alone?

Against Bayern, he scored and he assisted. What he lacks in defense, he makes up for attack.

If not for the referee, Marcelo would have won us the match.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 5:34am On May 07, 2018
Our attack is deadly, when Marcelo is on the field of play.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 6:08am On May 07, 2018
they 're still lamenting grin

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 6:36am On May 07, 2018
monerozi5590:
Our attack is deadly, when Marcelo is on the field of play.
no doubt Marcelo is a threat to the opposition when going for attack. But what I'm saying is he needs to be defensively OK.
That build up to barka's first goal was his doing.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 6:39am On May 07, 2018
monerozi5590:



Forget those Brazilians, they are never serious.

No Brazilian player can match Cr7 dedication, zeal, hardwork and being fit physically at his age.
true, but vinicus Jr is the heir(although his nothing like the G. O. A. T). let's just hope he brings something special to Madrid.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 7:00am On May 07, 2018
monerozi5590:
Apart from the goal Bale scored, he was totally useless.

Can't control ball. Can't give precise pass.

Bale should be sold..Benzema has really improved.

Perez get me Mbappe.

Useless?

You obviously was not observant of what was happening on the pitch.

Bale helped Nacho a lot defensively keeping Alba at bay.

When Vasquez came on he had more freedom to attack as he became more central positioned.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 7:03am On May 07, 2018
LordAdam:


Any of the rumored names except Lewandowski.






Maybe you didn't see all the runs Bale made with no one passing to him like it was a conspiracy. Especially that Asensio opening to him in acres of space before the Suarez foul on Varane/Messi goal. One good pass and he scores a beauty.

Benzema is now a playmaker. He has lost most of his striker's instincts. Unfortunately, we need goals, and he isn't scoring as many as he should. I like his style of play but he should be our second highest goal scorer. If Ronnie isn't on the pitch, he should be our most dangerous player upfront, but that isn't the case.



Let's stop making excuses for Marcelo. We almost crashed out of the UCL twice because of him running out of position. It happened again today. At what point do we start making him take responsibility for these gaffes.

The main issue is not even him running out of position, that's to be expected from him going forward. It is his shabby recovery that irks me. Between himself and Kroos, I don't know who is slower/faster.

And he gets help defensively. Ramos often tries to cover for him and Kroos/Asensio often help him defensively. It's gotten to a point where we know we'd be defo be punished (or close) from his wing in every single game. Whether it's against Bayern or Malaga.

-Lord

I was mad that all the attack in the first half was just through the left flank.

They were all blind at seeing Bale running behind Alba

How do you blame him when no one passed to him. I feel like they are conspiring to make Asensio the lead player something he couldn't pull of yesternight.

Benzema can't be a striker anymore. That bus has moved on.


Marcelo was terribly careless yesterday he left so.much space at the back forgetting he had defensive duties. If he does this against Salah on 26th let's just kiss the UCL byebye. He was not tracking the attackers well at all. And he is slow when running backwards as if his hair is pulling him.back

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 7:16am On May 07, 2018
monerozi5590:



No one is helping him out defensively.


Do you think is easy to be running the flank alone?

Against Bayern, he scored and he assisted. What he lacks in defense, he makes up for attack.

If not for the referee, Marcelo would have won us the match.


Really, no one helps Marcelo out defensively. I've never heard anything more untrue this month.

So he makes a mistake and we concede, just so he scores later on. I wonder how many games we'd win, if every of the back four make errors that lead to goals, only to score later.

And if he had not been AWOL, we wouldn't have conceded the first and we'd have won 2:1.

All this excuses we keep making for players who serially fail to do the basics is only because we're in the UCL final. Heaven forbid we were not in the running for the UCL, you'd be screaming blue murder.

Most of the goals we've conceded this year are goals a club like RM shouldn't be conceding. As tho', there's some rulebook that says we have to concede in order to win. Like the last 15 minutes of the RM-Bayern feature in the Bernabeu was fun.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 7:22am On May 07, 2018
Unlimited22:

Continue ignoring the fact that he more often than not has no help defensively.
Fine Kroos isnt so helpful defence wise.
Sadly Asensio is going back to that egoistic mode of not wanting to defend because she isnnow default player even ahead of Bale.

But Marcelo was careless yesterday. He caused the first goal.
And kept leaving his position open for attacks.
Fortunately for him Roberto was taken off.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 7:23am On May 07, 2018
LordAdam:



Really, no one helps Marcelo out defensively. I've never heard anything more untrue this month.

So he makes a mistake and we concede, just so he scores later on. I wonder how many games we'd win, if every of the back four make errors that lead to goals, only to score later.

And if he had not been AWOL, we wouldn't have conceded the first and we'd have won 2:1.

All this excuses we keep making for players who serially fail to do the basics is only because we're in the UCL final. Heaven forbid we were not in the running for the UCL, you'd be screaming blue murder.

Most of the goals we've conceded this year are goals a club like RM shouldn't be conceding. As tho', there's some rulebook that says we have to concede in order to win. Like the last 15 minutes of the RM-Bayern feature in the Bernabeu was fun.

-Lord

He forgets his primary role is to be a defender not an attacker
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 7:36am On May 07, 2018
usbcable:


Useless?

You obviously was not observant of what was happening on the pitch.

Bale helped Nacho a lot defensively keeping Alba at bay.

When Vasquez came on he had more freedom to attack as he became more central positioned.

usbcable:


I was mad that all the attack in the first half was just through the left flank.

They were all blind at seeing Bale running behind Alba

How do you blame him when no one passed to him. I feel like they are conspiring to make Asensio the lead player something he couldn't pull of yesternight.

Benzema can't be a striker anymore. That bus has moved on.


Marcelo was terribly careless yesterday he left so.much space at the back forgetting he had defensive duties. If he does this against Salah on 26th let's just kiss the UCL byebye. He was not tracking the attackers well at all. And he is slow when running backwards as if his hair is pulling him.back

Finally. I thought I was the only one who noticed those.

We made all manner of excuses for Benzema last year when Morata helped make up the number of goals to win the league even though he played less. And we paid for it this year. That's the same thing happening with Marcelo. What'd happen if he unfortunately has multiple bad days up front but continues making gaffes at the back. Like the whole team had in the beginning of the season. It's football, it happens.

The annoying part is that the errors they make are basic errors.

And about the Bale conspiracy, it certainly felt that way. Because if CR7 was making those runs continually, they'd have laid the pass for him multiple times. Asensio is the golden boy, or at least he could be (seems Vazquez is edging him to that tag). But Bale leaving isn't the magic bullet, the new buys would still fight for his spot. I'd really have liked if Bale stayed, it's just the bench will become crowded.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 7:51am On May 07, 2018
usbcable:

Fine Kroos isnt so helpful defence wise.
Sadly Asensio is going back to that egoistic mode of not wanting to defend because she isnnow default player even ahead of Bale.

But Marcelo was careless yesterday. He caused the first goal.
And kept leaving his position open for attacks.
Fortunately for him Roberto was taken off.

I take issue with the statement that Marcelo receives "NO" help defensively. He does receive help, maybe not as much Carvajal receives, but some is far better than no. And btw Carvajal tracks back way better than Marcelo.

Asensio has not been his usual self in his last few games. It almost feels like that's the one thing he's missing--consistency.

usbcable:


He forgets his primary role is to be a defender not an attacker

And apparently a substantial section of the fan base does not see anything wrong with it. It seems we only talk about glaring issues when we are in a precarious situation. The moment we're out of the woods, all is well with the team. Notice how the talk about our shambolic defending of aerial balls has gone cold.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:11am On May 07, 2018
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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:13am On May 07, 2018
Let's shift our focus to Wednesday's fixture.
We need to beat sevilla to clinch that 2nd place.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 8:47am On May 07, 2018
Miremoses1:
Let's shift our focus to Wednesday's fixture.
We need to beat sevilla to clinch that 2nd place.

clinch wich second place? athletico has a better head to head record
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdam: 10:49am On May 07, 2018
Miremoses1:
Let's shift our focus to Wednesday's fixture.
We need to beat sevilla to clinch that 2nd place.

Virtually all the senior players will be rested. Let's hope Ceballos et al put in a nice shift.

Zidane should put some regulars on the bench tho', in case things go awry.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 1:33pm On May 07, 2018
LordAdam:


Virtually all the senior players will be rested. Let's hope Ceballos et al put in a nice shift.

Zidane should put some regulars on the bench tho', in case things go awry.

-Lord
same here. Navas also needs to rest to.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 1:45pm On May 07, 2018
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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 1:45pm On May 07, 2018
Cristiano to miss Sevilla and Celta, but ready for Kiev final to face Liverpool


The ankle injury sustained by the Portuguese striker is expected to keep him out of action for a week but the player will be back for the final league game and the Kiev final.


Cristiano Ronaldo will play in the 2017/18 Champions League final in Kiev. The knock on his ankle, sustained whilst scoring Real Madrid's equaliser at Camp Nou yesterday is not of a serious nature. The Portuguese player was treated by club medics after the goal and was substituted by coach Zidane at the interval purely as a precautionary measure.

Real Madrid club officials have been quick to confirm that the injury is not serious despite the player set to miss the LaLiga games this week as "Los Blancos" travel to face Sevilla midweek and then face Celta Vigo at the weekend with Zidane anxious not to force a hasty return for the player from Madeira.

Cristiano is set to return to training next Monday and play in the final league game of the current season as Madrid travel to Villarreal on the weekend of May 19-20. This way the striker will ensure some competitive playing time ahead of the club's attempt to secure a third consecutive Champions League win as they face Liverpool in Kiev on May 26.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 2:02pm On May 07, 2018
LordAdam:



Really, no one helps Marcelo out defensively. I've never heard anything more untrue this month.

So he makes a mistake and we concede, just so he scores later on. I wonder how many games we'd win, if every of the back four make errors that lead to goals, only to score later.

And if he had not been AWOL, we wouldn't have conceded the first and we'd have won 2:1.

All this excuses we keep making for players who serially fail to do the basics is only because we're in the UCL final. Heaven forbid we were not in the running for the UCL, you'd be screaming blue murder.

Most of the goals we've conceded this year are goals a club like RM shouldn't be conceding. As tho', there's some rulebook that says we have to concede in order to win. Like the last 15 minutes of the RM-Bayern feature in the Bernabeu was fun.

-Lord

I'm sure you've played football before and if you've ever played over 30Min of football you'd know football is an energy consuming game

This is the reason you see certain players easily lose their markers or get outwitted by dribbling easily, its cuz at that point in time they might've been carrying a small knock or more often have lost energy and they need to jog a bit to recover. I know this cuz I played football and no footballer can really run for 90 minutes, they may appear to you like they're running for 90 minutes but if you pay close attention you'll see they move from jogging, walking, running and even standing still

When a player's energy is low and he can't run like before other teammates have to notice and change shape to protect him while he recovers his energy

Kroos, Ramos and Casimiro noticed Marcelo had expended energy running on the flanks and he needed time to recover which made them do the pressing on his behalf, Ramos pressed which left his position opened and Kroos tracked back, what happened that made us concede is lack of good communication between Kroos and Casimiro as they both attempted to block the ball while leaving Kimmich to run behind, you can watch the replay again to see what I'm talking about. if one of them tracked the run of Kimmich he wouldn't have had such time to think and chose his spot. yes Marcelo was caught deep in opposition half but that's a consequence of the team relying on him for width on the left side

We rely on Marcelo to attack the left side all on his own and there would be times he doesn't have the energy to run back fast enough. This is where our midfielders should cover for him till he gets back which they do effectively most times but there are times it simply doesn't work. its the effect of the high risk high reward attacking fullback tactics we deploy.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 4:10pm On May 07, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


I'm sure you've played football before and if you've ever played over 30Min of football you'd know football is an energy consuming game

This is the reason you see certain players easily lose their markers or get outwitted by dribbling easily, its cuz at that point in time they might've been carrying a small knock or more often have lost energy and they need to jog a bit to recover. I know this cuz I played football and no footballer can really run for 90 minutes, they may appear to you like they're running for 90 minutes but if you pay close attention you'll see they move from jogging, walking, running and even standing still

When a player's energy is low and he can't run like before other teammates have to notice and change shape to protect him while he recovers his energy

Kroos, Ramos and Casimiro noticed Marcelo had expended energy running on the flanks and he needed time to recover which made them do the pressing on his behalf, Ramos pressed which left his position opened and Kroos tracked back, what happened that made us concede is lack of good communication between Kroos and Casimiro as they both attempted to block the ball while leaving Kimmich to run behind, you can watch the replay again to see what I'm talking about. if one of them tracked the run of Kimmich he wouldn't have had such time to think and chose his spot. yes Marcelo was caught deep in opposition half but that's a consequence of the team relying on him for width on the left side

We rely on Marcelo to attack the left side all on his own and there would be times he doesn't have the energy to run back fast enough. This is where our midfielders should cover for him till he gets back which they do effectively most times but there are times it simply doesn't work. its the effect of the high risk high reward attacking fullback tactics we deploy.


Someone who plays football has spoken. I am so shocked hearing Madridistas criticizing Marcelo.

If any Madrid player should be criticized then it shouldn't be Marcelo.

Marcelo is so good and i enjoy watching him play.


I am so surprise that Usbcable is criticizing Marcelo. like what da Bleep.

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