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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:03pm On May 06, 2018 |
Just watching highlights now. Has Moses learnt to cross ball overnight or am I seeing things? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:05pm On May 06, 2018 |
Rudiger seemed to have locked a tricky winger called Salah today. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:06pm On May 06, 2018 |
Ibime:It was shocking. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:07pm On May 06, 2018 |
Greatihex:Very simple question. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:08pm On May 06, 2018 |
Ibime:oga. I didn't say he is competing against himself. I just asked a simple question. Based on your logic of rating a Player's performance and Based on hazard's goals and assists this, have he just had one of his best seasons for chelsea? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:08pm On May 06, 2018 |
Greatihex: Your only evidence that Hazard was better today is whoscored, The whoscored who told us Hazard has been better than Salah this season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:10pm On May 06, 2018 |
This hoow you know people who have eyes Greatihex: Greatihex: See person wey watch match below Organizer ko, Calculator ni, People that have functioning eyes will know that it was Rudiger who shutdown Salah not yourr stupidd Cahill Ibime: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:16pm On May 06, 2018 |
Greatihex: His season this year is no different to others. Hazard has not changed through his time at Chelsea except for 2016 when he was unfit The only difference is that the real decisive title winners of 2015 and 2017 did not help him win the league this year. I know you thought he was the key factor when we won the league in 2015 and 2017 but some of us gave those titles to Costa, Fabregas and Ngolo as the decisive factors. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:19pm On May 06, 2018 |
Ibime: Greatihex airmark and chelseafan1 will not see this sense here even if it hits them in the face. They were the people telling us Hazard took Chelsea to the title with mediocre numbers of John King when it was Costa Kante and Fabregas doing the job. Costa left Fabregas dropped in quality and Hazard is dropping the same numbers dancing atilogwu Chelsea is 5th 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:34pm On May 06, 2018 |
raumdeuter:no. I did not use rating first. I used common sense, but when I saw that common sense flew over you. I used rating, the one that can be seen. It seems like the rating one is not working. I think stats may help. But, i can see how you are trying to shift the argument to another thing. Though, there can be some things the rating does not capture, but in the case of Salah, he is not high on the rating because there are a lot lacking in his game that this sites use for rating. Things like passes, pass success, chances created, km covered, defensive contributions, etc. This is the same for many of the rating sites, squauka etc. This was the basis for my argument of KDB being better than Salah this season. But, the thing is that the goals make the fans emotional that makes the fans neglect the work of the main people. Reason they keep giving the attackers the awards. Just like how giroud was completely useless today, but managed to score a goal. Now, the fans and the media will say, oh giroud takes chelsea past liverpool, but kante is not mentioned, courtious, baka, Hazard, rudi, cahill etc. That is it. If salah had done this last season, kante for no collect pfa. Something that is bad. All these Though are argument for another day. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 11:34pm On May 06, 2018 |
TalabiAudu:signed & delivered |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CSTR1003: 11:41pm On May 06, 2018 |
There are reports that Liverpool have agreed terms with Lyon for Nabil fekir at 70m euros. Chelsea cannot watch deals like this happen. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:44pm On May 06, 2018 |
Chelseafan1: Raumdeuter should be analysing igboya fc vs lagere utd or Masha kilo bombers fc vs Pen cinema pillars fc, Abakpa nike stars vs Emene rovers, Lugbe pythons vs Kurudu lions. No sensible football fan would rate Sallah higher than Hazard in today's match. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:52pm On May 06, 2018 |
Ibime:raumdeuter seems to be having big influence here o. Just so that you don't admit to making a mistake or having a flaw in your logic, you resort to turning amala and saying ridiculous things. Just a simple question, you are now talking about those that won us title. Fab? The same fab that lost it by december? Someone that didn't make it to the pfa team? Costa that was always injured or suspended? Ibime!!! I can't believe that you will making such statements just to save face. I can only expect such statement from anti chelsea fans. If fab and Costa help hazard to win the title, why didn't they help willian to do same or close the following season you claim that hazard was unfit? 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:52pm On May 06, 2018 |
airmark: Like your whoscored that told us hazard has been better in EPL this season than salah |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:52pm On May 06, 2018 |
Greatihex: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:54pm On May 06, 2018 |
raumdeuter:okay. Can you get us your own evidence? Maybe, stats to back up your claim 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:58pm On May 06, 2018 |
raumdeuter: My whoscored? Below was what you told me when i rubbished your rating Rooney so high in a match he played rubbish. Thunder fire that your korobo head. airmark: raumdeuter: 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:03am On May 07, 2018 |
Raumdeuter, see as ur mumu Benzema deny person cool money. Stop supporting idioots
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:04am On May 07, 2018 |
airmark: Bwahahahahaahha, Diggz, comman carry ur brother abeg. See two mouths for one person 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:09am On May 07, 2018 |
Chelseafan1: He has no integrity at all. The same whoscored he used that time o. How would any human being that watched the match, say that Sallah had a better performance than Hazard today? Is Dayo really your uncle? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:10am On May 07, 2018 |
Greatihex: For years you have been peddling this fallacy that Hazard won us the league in 2015 which is patently false. Transplant Hazards performance this season to 2015 and we would have still won the league comfortably. So no, Hazard has not changed between 2015 and now, and our league fortunes do not depend on whether he's on form or not cos his form is roughly the same every year. We had been struggling to qualify for UCL year-on-year until we signed Fabregas and Costa that summer. Their combination propelled us to take a commanding lead by January, after which it was easy to manage out the rest of the season which Mourinho specialises in. After Fabregas got exposed at Spurs in January 2015, Mourinho drafted Zouma into midfield and changed the format of our play settling for 1-0 wins and draws to see out the season. This is when Hazard secured the lone goal in a couple of matches that made you history-revisors to start bleating that Hazard won us the league. Hazard never did such, and his performance this season would achieve the same effect. We don't live or die on Hazards minor fluctuations in form. The Fabregas-Costa combo wrapped up that league for us by January and we would have managed out that season to victory even if Hazard broke his leg. Greatihex: All players were unfit that season bar Willian due to having only 3 weeks preseason as the club decided to go on post-season tour of Thailand which cut down our presseason to 3 weeks only. When I said that is the only season Hazards form has fluctuated wildly, I'm referring to his personal form cos that team could not be helped by one or two players being in form when the rest of the team is unfit. By his own personal form, I mean he came back from holiday with ikebe bigger than Eniola Badmus such that his dribbles weren't coming off due to his own personal lack of sharpness. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:11am On May 07, 2018 |
airmark: Taaaa! I have disowned the shameless apari long ago. Lemme see the nonsense he will write in defence of his support for whoscored. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:17am On May 07, 2018 |
Ibime: When Hazard shined and was more consistent in 2014/2015 and 2016/2017, we won epl titles. When he downed tools we lost them. I don't actually want to go into back and forth on this. It's needless. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:20am On May 07, 2018 |
Chelseafan1: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:24am On May 07, 2018 |
airmark: Yeah, according to you history revisors, we won league because Hazard shined, not because we signed Fabregas, Costa and Ngolo who gave the team what it needed to win. Hazard has been here before these players came and never thought of shining abi? How about this - Chelsea won the league in 2015 and 2017, thus you say he shined. . . cos his form then is no different to now. The best I've ever seen Hazard play for Chelsea is this season from September to November. He actually showed form reserved for only the best in those months. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:46am On May 07, 2018 |
Ibime: Football is a team sport, others must also do their jobs. If Barca used Dayo as their keeper, they wouldn't have won sextuple, but we know the most important player in the team. That wouldn't degrade the inputs of other key players. There's a reason when Hazard flops, most times the team flop. Ibime: That's you being economical with the truth here. We have told you several times not to always use goals+assists alone to rate players. In those years you mentioned, he was more consistent in his performance than what he served this season. He confirmed this few weeks ago. It's something clear to Chelsea fans who watched all his matches in the seasons involved. Saying his performace this season is not different from last season's, is embarrassing. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 12:47am On May 07, 2018 |
airmark: Lol Airmark , you sha get time to dey reply our long serving enemy on this forum. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:50am On May 07, 2018 |
Ibime:congratulations. You have successfully ran away from the simple question i asked you. Oga Ibime, try and go to bed. Next time. There is no need to argue the obvious. Hazard was terrific from the beginning of Season. He just wasn't getting the goals at the beginning. I remember in swansea 4-2 match that the commentors said something like, "he has been great so far, but some people are saying that he should get the end products." Did i just read you say chelsea were finding it difficult to qualify for ucl year on year before fab and costa? Hmm. This your attempt to cover the flaw in your rating logic have made you type some funny things this night o. Chelsea that were challenging for titles till season end helped by hazard, before fab and costa. In 2013/2014 hazard greatly helped chelsea challenge for the title until mou decided to bench him for challenging his tactics against atm. Maybe, it is also fab and costa that helped him get the young pfa and come second only to the very terrific suarez for the senior one. Oga Ibime, you don f-up for these statements. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 12:53am On May 07, 2018 |
Ongoing topic about hazard this and that , To be frank , Hazard influences our season since his debut back in 2013 till date , either negatively or positively , If he's on good form from August till December we will be unstoppable during this period. To me he's our best player since 2013 till date. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:54am On May 07, 2018 |
dyabman: Long time bro. I dont know what keeps pushing me to continue to spank his head. Maybe i should deactivate. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:55am On May 07, 2018 |
airmark:honestly, i am surprised by the things oga Ibime typed. All these just to defend his flawed logic of goals and assists rating. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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