Icon79:
Yes, I could've won with that Inter team, given all the assistance they received in the game against Barca (read my previous post).
As per Porto, I have one word for you - the old Trafford scandal. Like I said, Jose Mourinho has always won by either having the best collection of players or by being "lucky". And I stand by that statement.

A good coach is someone who improves his squad - check out coaches like Rafa Benitez, Jurgen Klopp, etc. Mourihno is yet to demonstrate that he's capable of doing that. In fact, he's actually the opposite ... great talents come to die with him:
- Robben
- Mikel
- Lukaku
- Kevin DeBryune
- Mephis Depay
- Mo Salah
- Paul Pogba
- Juan Mata

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Lol... funny guy.... if Mourinho doesn't improve his squad, how come his teams win, and keep winning, how come he has won treble twice with two different teams??

Which of those players can you compare to...

Lampard
Drogba
Ballack
Deco
Calvalho
C.Ronaldo
Di Maria
Ozil...

And what assistance did Jose get at inter against Barca, even wen he got red carded??

What assistance did he get at Porto, to win the UCL??

What assistance did he get at Chelsea, Real Madrid and even at Man utd....

My only grouse with Mourinho is his type of football, buh for you to call a UCL winner twice lucky, what will you call Guardiola who couldn't win it with Bayern especially with resources at his disposal??

Icon79:
Oh please! It makes me mad anytime I hear that that Inter Milan team didn't have star players. Here are a few:

Julio Cesar - considered the best goalkeeper in the world at that time
Maicon - considered the best right back in the world at that time
Esteban Cambiasso - world class midfielder
Wesley Sneijder - world class midfielder
Diego Milito - world class striker
Samuel Eto’o - world class midfielder

Just to mention but a few. And I am leaving out other world class players like: Lucio, Zanetti, Walter Samuels, Materazzi etc.

And in addition, that team won with of both the refs and the the help of a volcanic ash cloud. First Barca was denied a clear penalty in the first leg and then have a good goal dubiously ruled out in the return leg. And don't forgot that the game itself was supposed to be postponed due to a volcanic ash cloud in Western Europe at that time, but Barca was told at the last minute that the game was still on and had to travel to Italy by bus! A team like Real Madrid would never have accepted that decision but Barca never complains.

And don't even get me started on how he won with Porto either.


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How can you compare inter players with Barca players that year??
Barca that just won the champions league the previous year...

Victor Valdes was the best goal keeper
Dani Alves was best RB
Compare Xavi & Iniesta with sneijder... oya I dey wait you??

Barca the best team was beaten, and Mourinho used unexpected players to win his Inter treble...

Bro, how can you say that Dani Alvez was the best RB when Maicon was benching him in Brazil's national team at that time?
And how can you rate Victor Valez the best goal keeper when he was only the backup to Iker Casilas in Spain's national team??

Please come again ....



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obonujoker:


How can you compare inter players with Barca players that year??
Barca that just won the champions league the previous year...

Victor Valdes was the best goal keeper
Dani Alves was best RB
Compare Xavi & Iniesta with sneijder... oya I dey wait you??

Barca the best team was beaten, and Mourinho used unexpected players to win his Inter treble...

First of all, all these players you listed were already world class players before each one of them played under Mourinho so I can't see how or where he improved them. When I talked about improving players, I was referring to young and potential world class talents (DeBryune, Salah, VicMo, Obi Mikel, Arjen Robben, Romalu Lukaku etc.) developing and getting better under the special fraud. Rather what we saw was the players being relegated and eventually getting shipped out in favor of the already world class players.

It took Memphis Depay less than half a season away from Mourinho to become a world class player again.
Paul Pogba is a world class player anytime he suits up for France, but a mediocre player under Mourinho.
Lukaku was a bench warmer under Mourinho's Chelsea, but became a world class striker a season later with Everton only for Mourinho to come crawling back.
Mo Sallah was not good enough for Mourinho but became a star a season later with Roma.

Please name ONE young player that Mourinho has ever developed into a world class talent. And I mean EVER! Mourinho is a fraud, deceiving the folks that know very little or nothing about football.


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obonujoker:


Lol... funny guy.... if Mourinho doesn't improve his squad, how come his teams win, and keep winning, how come he has won treble twice with two different teams??

Which of those players can you compare to...

Lampard
Drogba
Ballack
Deco
Calvalho
C.Ronaldo
Di Maria
Ozil...

And what assistance did Jose get at inter against Barca, even wen he got red carded??

What assistance did he get at Porto, to win the UCL??

What assistance did he get at Chelsea, Real Madrid and even at Man utd....

My only grouse with Mourinho is his type of football, buh for you to call a UCL winner twice lucky, what will you call Guardiola who couldn't win it with Bayern especially with resources at his disposal??

Icon79:
Bro, how can you say that Dani Alvez was the best RB when Maicon was benching him in Brazil's national team at that time?
And how can you rate Victor Valez the best goal keeper when he was only the backup to Iker Casilas in Spain's national team??

Please come again ....



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Lol... still DAT doesn't negate the fact that Jose is one of the greatest coaches ever... remember some coaches also killed some players career and talents...

The stupid coach his now wasting money on car .. And the secound stupid idiot paul pogba is besy wasting money on his hair ..that y they cant even defeat sevila in uefa champions leauge ..

Icon79:
First of all, all these players you listed were already world class players before each one of them played under Mourinho so I can't see how or where he improved them. When I talked about improving players, I was referring to young and potential world class talents (DeBryune, Salah, VicMo, Obi Mikel, Arjen Robben, Romalu Lukaku etc.) developing and getting better under the special fraud. Rather what we saw was the players being relegated and eventually getting shipped out in favor of the already world class players.

It took Memphis Depay less than half a season away from Mourinho to become a world class player again.
Paul Pogba is a world class player anytime he suits up for France, but a mediocre player under Mourinho.
Lukaku was a bench warmer under Mourinho's Chelsea, but became a world class striker a season later with Everton only for Mourinho to come crawling back.
Mo Sallah was not good enough for Mourinho but became a star a season later with Roma.

Please name ONE young player that Mourinho has ever developed into a world class talent. And I mean EVER! Mourinho is a fraud, deceiving the folks that know very little or nothing about football.


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Raphael Varane
Angel di Maria
Drogba

Apart from Wenger and Ferguson, now Zidane, which other coach is bringing up a youngstar to world class status??

Drogba a young talent? Are you freaking kidding me

Drogs was already a world class player and on the Ballon d'Or shortlist before he played for Mourinho. And by the way, don't forget that he rarely ever plays Drogba in his first season at Chelsea. Mourinho always starts Crespo ahead of Drogs!

Angel Di Maria wasn't a young player under Mourinho's Real Madrid either. This was the same player who singlehandedly destroyed Nigeria's Olympic team in the 2008 Olympic Games. That was several years before Mourinho came to Real Madrid. And in addition, Di Maria actually depreciated under Mourinho ... that's why they sold him.
Raphael Varane was only given a chance because Pepe had a big falling out with Mourinho. If Pepe hadn't criticized Mourinho's coaching style, there was no way Varane would've gotten much playing time at that age.

In fact, it's a well known shortcoming of Jose Mourinho that he rarely gives young players a chance. Marcus Rashford would've been a world class player by now if he's playing under a different coach. But he has depreciated under Mourinho. As a matter of fact, the only reason Mourinho plays him at all is because he's English international. Memphis Depay was shipped away as a mediocre player but today he's turned into a world class player. Today, Victor Moses is one of the best players in EPL but he would still be out on loan if Mourinho is still at Chelsea.

Please give me a break! Mourinho is one of those coaches who tends to reap where he did not sow. He can't develop a player to save his life. Despite spending more than $500m in the transfer market this season, he's already compiling a list and demanding another blank check so he can raid other teams next season!


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obonujoker:


Raphael Varane
Angel di Maria
Drogba

Apart from Wenger and Ferguson, now Zidane, which other coach is bringing up a youngstar to world class status??

Icon79:
Drogba a young talent? Are you freaking kidding me

Drogs was already a world class player and on the Ballon d'Or shortlist before he played for Mourinho. And by the way, don't forget that he rarely ever plays Drogba in his first season at Chelsea. He always starts Crespo ahead of Drogs!

Angel Di Maria wasn't a young player under Mourinho's Real Madrid either. This was the same player who single destroyed Nigeria's Olympic team in the 2008 Olympic Games. That was several years before Mourinho came to Real Madrid. And in addition, Di Maria actually depreciated under Mourinho ... that's why they sold him.
Raphael Varane was only given a chance before Pepe had a falling out with Mourinho. If Pepe hadn't criticized his coaching style, there was Varane would've seen action at that age.

In fact, it's a well known shortcoming of Jose Mourinho that he rarely gives young players a chance. Marcus Rashford would've been a world class player by now if he's playing under a different coach. But he has depreciated under Mourinho. As a matter of fact, the only real Mourinho still plays him at all is because he's English international. Memphis Depay was shipped away as a mediocre player but today he's turned into a world class player. Today, Victor Moses is one of the best players in EPL but he would still be out on loan today if Mourinho is still at Chelsea.

Please give me a break! Mourinho is one of those coaches who tends to reap where he did not sow. He can't develop a player to save his life. Despite spending more than $500m in the transfer market this season, he's already compiling a list and demanding another blank check for next season!


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Everyone knows Mourinho is like Pep, both are chequebook managers, however, both have proved their onions already....

Examples of players under 26 years who thrived under mourinho and became better...

Wesley sneidjer
Didier drogba
Ricardo Quaresma
Frank Lampard
Mario ballotelli....
Raphael varane
Mesut Ozil

The only coach who uses home groomed young players and doesn't buy is Arsene Wenger, and we see how he is fairing.....

Lukaka is young, and playing well.... Did repay thrive under Van gaal??

Did Alexis Sanchez thrive under Guardiola or bojan kriyk....

Is thiago alcantara thriving under Jupp... did bendtner thrive under Wenger??

For Raphael varane, the issue is he was a young player who thrived under Mourinho, and he's still world class....

Can you name an unknown player who thrived under Guardiola and is still world class, or under Wenger, or under Ferguson... I mean world class...

Raphael varane was 19, wen Mourinho started using him......

obonujoker:


Everyone knows Mourinho is like Pep, both are chequebook managers, however, both have proved their onions already....

Examples of players under 26 years who thrived under mourinho and became better...

Wesley sneidjer
Didier drogba
Ricardo Quaresma
Frank Lampard
Mario ballotelli....
Raphael varane
Mesut Ozil

The only coach who uses home groomed young players and doesn't buy is Arsene Wenger, and we see how he is fairing.....

Lukaka is young, and playing well.... Did repay thrive under Van gaal??

Did Alexis Sanchez thrive under Guardiola or bojan kriyk....

Is thiago alcantara thriving under Jupp... did bendtner thrive under Wenger??

For Raphael varane, the issue is he was a young player who thrived under Mourinho, and he's still world class....

Can you name an unknown player who thrived under Guardiola and is still world class, or under Wenger, or under Ferguson... I mean world class...

Raphael varane was 19, wen Mourinho started using him......

Seriously? Mourinho to Guardiola in whom develops footballers more....Bro, you yourself know say you just wan dey controversial....