poseidon12:
That is great if it is actually implemented. That means that people with big generators can sell power to the national grid. Same for people with big Solar power installations.

a variant of this is done in UK, Spain and some other parts of Europe. Home owners of alternative powers with excess, can get tax deductibles through selling their excess (excess on solar) to the grid

Chukwuka16:
Nice analysis by the way.

My major concern is lack of regulation. Commonsense will demand that before making such statements there is proper legislation that guides how such setup will work. Things like safety nets and technical constraints which are the more important considering how bad our safety record is. Furthermore how are clients going to connect? It can't obviously be the distribution grid owned by the discos since that will lead to immediate shut down if everyone is pushing electricity into it without some limits. Hope he is not imagining the road side kerosene seller kind of scenario for electricity. This is some dangerous issue that requires seriousness. For a compound that maybe okay but with generation getting to 500kW and beyond then there needs to be some control. Haba, even tie grid inverters are properly regulated in countries with feed in tariffs.

This is the problem of having triangular pegs in circular holes. Fashola obviously is overwhelmed by the power issue and is now firing blanks.

Your major concern stems from your ignorance. Most of what you stated are already factored into the equation, all you needed to do is to find out how this arrangement works. You do not expect Fashola to spell out all the arrangements in a single interview while on inspection works. What "legislation" are you looking for when the law already states clearly the band that goes to the grid. "Safety nets" and "Technical Constraints" to me are just "whizzle"/vague words that tries to betray the intent.

Currently players in the Solar panel business will tell you that there have been lots of power sharing arrangements, where houses in close proximity can concentrate panels in a strategic location. They then decided on what sharing arrangement they deem acceptable.

Fashola is simply telling us what had already been in the law that people are not exercising. I have had of investors making overtures to estates for these arrangements. The challenge they face is the off-grid infrastructure. Someone has to pay that price and expecting the government to do so is tantamount to living in fools paradise

horsepower101:
There will be no Distribution problem if you are directly selling the power to consumers on site.

I don't think any rational businessman in Nigeria will want to sell the 2MW power to consumers far away from production site. This is perfect, if well managed for Small and Medium size businesses, Housing Estates and cottage industries or light manufacturers

Can we have situation where we explore rent-to-own schemes. Invest in solar power installation in homes and get them to pay a monthly rent that accumulates (with interest and premium factored) and they become owners after a specific period. This is what I think will be more enticing. Nobody wants to deal with another behemoth in "micro-Discos", we already have enough headaches.

Fashola that letter F in your name stands for failure,you said you could provide stable power supply in six months but you have been there more than
three years and power supply is even worse than before.

nextstep:

CaptJeffry: :
But when an Igbo man starts this business now, FG will hurriedly set up a commission to destroy it.

If that's the case, then be smart and use some Hausa men as the front for your business.

abi. It is all about "igbo man" being marginalised. Yesterday it was the Headies, today it is about Power

ernieboy:

horsepower101: :
There will be no Distribution problem if you are directly selling the power to consumers on site.

I don't think any rational businessman in Nigeria will want to sell the 2MW power to consumers far away from production site. This is perfect, if well managed for Small and Medium size businesses, Housing Estates and cottage industries or light manufacturers

what exactly will be the source of power for these mini generation companies? definitely not gas because we don't have a widespread gas pipeline like in the western countries and diesel is too expensive, solar is also not economical at the present price level for power.

How so?

mapet:


You mean in other countries, tax payers don't pay power bills?

Did you read his initial post? Read again

mapet:


How so?

solar generation and all the associated infrastructure is still relatively expensive and at the present price per kilowatt, it will take a longer time for an investor to recoup their investment b4 considering profit

ernieboy:

solar generation and all the associated infrastructure is still relatively expensive and at the present price per kilowatt, it will take a longer time for an investor to recoup their investment b4 considering profit

1. Can we get stats/numbers to justify this? from a TCO perspective?

EMMAACHILE:

Did you read his initial post? Read again

Read what again?

I wonder what our tax deductions are being used for in this country since the citizens has taken up govt responsibilities. We fund and provide for our every basic amenities undecided

Your friend is talking about tax deductions.....govt responsibilities......basic amenities. Is there anything I'm missing, when an article is about opportunities in an already existing regulation?

Am at where dey are selling cars right now. Pls guys between ACURA ZDX and TOYOTA VENZA, which one do you advice me 2 snap pix with?

three:
Nothing prevented this before now.

The Power act states that anything above 10MV must be pushed into the grid.

Which is why Lagos was able to do the Marina IPP that supplies public facilities (general hospital, state House, street lights etc).

This >10MV arrangement meant that as many people in say Gbagada and environs could be placed on one IPP.

Imagine several across Nigeria!

The ONLY challenge is that the distribution infrastructure belonged/belongs to the government (then) DISCO (now), so this arrangement is best for semi private estates like VGC that can deploy their own distribution infrastructure at scale.

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Imagine that Industrial estates are able to collocate power generation and therefore remove themselves from the National Grid for cheaper more predictable power (already happening in some places) and thus freeing up available generated power for others!

This people is why you usually have better power supply on holidays! The factories are usually down on holidays!

obajana is generating 57 megawatts. is dangote pushing it to the grid?
Canaan land is generating 15,are they pushing?
what if said industries or investor remain off grid not selling to public?

VampireeM:
I wonder what our tax deductions are being used for in this country since the citizens has taken up govt responsibilities. We fund and provide for our every basic amenities

to feed lazy civil servants and do wedding in Dubai

StaffofOrayan:
I guess we should also build roads while at it
And the stupid tariffs on imports
This gov't is clueless abeg

Oya continue waiting for Nigerian politician to give you light for next 60 years na. it's not by force to use the light abi

wristbangle:
If u ask me, it's a good move but the problem is distribution which only will favour estates and private residence.

By the way it is 2MW downwards

who else do you want it to favor, govt parastatals?

Chukwuka16:
Nice analysis by the way.

My major concern is lack of regulation. Commonsense will demand that before making such statements there is proper legislation that guides how such setup will work. Things like safety nets and technical constraints which are the more important considering how bad our safety record is. Furthermore how are clients going to connect? It can't obviously be the distribution grid owned by the discos since that will lead to immediate shut down if everyone is pushing electricity into it without some limits. Hope he is not imagining the road side kerosene seller kind of scenario for electricity. This is some dangerous issue that requires seriousness. For a compound that maybe okay but with generation getting to 500kW and beyond then there needs to be some control. Haba, even tie grid inverters are properly regulated in countries with feed in tariffs.

This is the problem of having triangular pegs in circular holes. Fashola obviously is overwhelmed by the power issue and is now firing blanks.

Nigerians and over Sabi
so you rather we regulate lightlessness or what is this gibberish you're saying

willibounce1:


How?

I guess he just woke up now. Abi you forgot that this same man said ' any serious govt should be able to fix power in 6 months' it is 3 years now and he is coming to tell us this. How about all the lies about the thousands of megawatts the claimed to be generating. How about the billions they have spent claiming to generate power that we cannot see. All of a sudden any Nigerian can generate power and sell to people. What are the discos currently doing? I guess they are playing ludo and not generating power.

Maybe the next news will be any nigerian can construct roads and build toll gates on them to make their money back. they should just shift all their responsibilities of govt on the people like they have been doing and still continue to collect taxes and use it to live lavish.

private sector more efficient than govt world over, abi you prefer the darkness, chose 1

deomelo:



Instead if asking me not to believe what other people say, why not show us facts to dispute that assertions with.

Show us the law or the Constitution that says State governments like Lagos State can serve State residents.


You are yet to support all your flawed assertions in this thread with facts, even ordinary website you can not produced, but you are asking other people to crosscheck their fact.


What a joker.

is he the organisation spokesman?
if you don't want light stay in darkness and leave us with our postulation

ernieboy:
all of you commending this policy have forgotten that after generation you need distribution, are the mini power plant owners also going to setup their own distribution infrastructure too?

what are you distributing, you are on site

MIKOLOWISKA:
private sector more efficient than govt world over, abi you prefer the darkness, chose 1

I asked you a question at the end. What exactly will the govt do for the people even with the tax that we pay.

ernieboy:

what exactly will be the source of power for these mini generation companies? definitely not gas because we don't have a widespread gas pipeline like in the western countries and diesel is too expensive, solar is also not economical at the present price level for power.

we do, it's called trailer, lpg tinz

deomelo:




This is the most ignorant and unintelligent assertion ever.

you are the ignorant one

Your website is your front dooor

which govt entity needs front door
if you like no go find out info wen you need manually
you think say na yankee you de

Your website is our receptionist and customer service

which govt entity gives a Sht about customer care
it's like you don't live in Nigeria anymore

Your website is where people go to find out about your operation instead of getting on a plane from all over the world or driving thousands or hundreds of miles to your location.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
and you calling someone ignorant

Your website tells people your phone number and your address.

when last did you call a land-line in Nigeria
wonder if they still work

Your website is important because it helps you establish credibility as a business.

don't go and collect passport or driving license then go and tell them they have no credibility

Not having a website is criminal and corporate negligence.

grammar

Now, back to the website issue. You and the other joker can not come up with a website simply because there's not because major companies and even serious companies have websites.


You people need to stop peddling lies that you can not back up with facts.

Oya clap for yourself

willibounce1:


I dont enjoy up 5 hours uninterrupted power supply straight. The annoying thing is there is no difference between then and now. I still always have to buy fuel for my gen and use it most times. Really this things dont bother me no more. I have given up on the country. If i had the money i will even fix bad roads myself just to avoid the annoying dodging of pot holes.

you do
so stop telling lies

I dont see anything to be happy about in what fashola has said. I have been paying for the electricity that i do not use while still providing electricity for myself with generator.

that's what magas do

Small time na to just buy solar panels and totally ignore anything phcn or whatever they call themselves.

now your waking up

But the question i want to ask you is; what does the govt want to do for the people even with tax payers money?

keep waiting for govt you here?

Mutemenot:
A good development. One is actually going on somewhere in anambra state, at completion it's expected to supply light to a town comprising 32 villages.

how does town comprise villages. is it villages or town

deomelo:
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I'm not interested in your factless rant.




How do you even support the fact that a major power company with power plants and 5 dams doesn't have a website and doesn't have to?

demand overshadows supply. no need to market anything
does garri have a website?

mapet:


Can we have situation where we explore rent-to-own schemes. Invest in solar power installation in homes and get them to pay a monthly rent that accumulates (with interest and premium factored) and they become owners after a specific period. This is what I think will be more enticing. Nobody wants to deal with another behemoth in "micro-Discos", we already have enough headaches.

Solar can't run industry

??

MIKOLOWISKA:
Oya continue waiting for Nigerian politician to give you light for next 60 years na. it's not by force to use the light abi

willibounce1:


I asked you a question at the end. What exactly will the govt do for the people even with the tax that we pay.

keep asking you here instead of taking the opportunity. keep waiting until it's perfect like yankee and Co, don't make any move.

do you have a generator?
why didn't you wait for tax payer
do you have a house, did govt build it?
where does your water come from, why not wait for tax payer?
how many times have you gone to ask your leader for tax payer?
do I look like govt official?
farmer waiting for rain will starve

deomelo:



A major power comp without website?

They don't seem to have a website, but you want me to google what you couldn't find?

Moving on..

is it them that need you or you that need them?

StaffofOrayan:
??

Paskor

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MIKOLOWISKA:

you are the ignorant one


which govt entity needs front door
if you like no go find out info wen you need manually
you think say na yankee you de


which govt entity gives a Sht about customer care
it's like you don't live in Nigeria anymore


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
and you calling someone ignorant


when last did you call a land-line in Nigeria
wonder if they still work


don't go and collect passport or driving license then go and tell them they have no credibility


grammar

Oya clap for yourself

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Typical ignorant and unintelligent ipob rubbish.

Imagine these backward, and ignorant and lazy youths trying to convince us that a major power supply company not having a website is not a bid deal. How backward and rettarded.

This is why you and your kind should never be put in charge of anything, not even street cleaning duties.

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MIKOLOWISKA:
is it them that need you or you that need them?

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Why not just shut your ignorant mouth if you have nothing better to contribute.