Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by busky101(m): 4:11pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
Sorry but you are the one who did not see the absurdity in your post.
Social media is not God and isn't seen as such (unless you wish to start that yourself )
God stands distinct from all else and till date is the longest "trending" thing known to man. Beat that with social media. Ride on sir 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:13pm On May 14, 2018 |
answer my question why arent we silicon based life forms since god created man from sand or is it dust or clay self |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by tintingz(m): 4:17pm On May 14, 2018 |
winner01: What nonsense is this? If A.Y couldn't speak you think he'll be able to make a living? How about the comedians who are invited to perform at the show, they also bought tickets? Mr bean didn't speak anywords in his shows and he was very successful, same as Tom and Jerry infact most shows during the 70/80s no words were spoken. It's not about the words but about the production, if A.Y didn't have publicity agents or sponsors do you think he will be successful and known? There are more unknown talented comedian than A.Y out there. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:20pm On May 14, 2018 |
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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:21pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Halleluiah, Halleluiah glory glory glory in the highest.
Isaiah 2:3 has just been fulfilled right before our very eyes even as Zechariah 12:3 was also fulfilled and i quote
"Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone for all people” of the world - (Zechariah 12:3)
https://www.nairaland.com/4503758/usa-finally-moves-embassy-jerusalem Your country is still struggling with corruption and low life expectancy and you are praising god that USA moved embassy to jerusalem. SMH. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:23pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader:
Your country is still struggling with corruption and low life expectancy and you are praising god that USA moved embassy to jerusalem. SMH. Halleluiah in the highest. We are in the end game now. (Doctor strange). It has begun. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by tintingz(m): 4:24pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
Words are tickets.
The tickets are a ripple effect of the words which caused them. Without the words there would be no tickets to come and listen to those words. So yes, the words created the tickets.
Without words there can be tickets! Tickets are not magically formed, you pay to print tickets. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 4:25pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader:
Your country is still struggling with corruption and low life expectancy and you are praising god that USA moved embassy to jerusalem. SMH. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 4:26pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Halleluiah, Halleluiah glory glory glory in the highest.
Isaiah 2:3 has just been fulfilled right before our very eyes even as Zechariah 12:3 was also fulfilled and i quote
"Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone for all people” of the world - (Zechariah 12:3)
https://www.nairaland.com/4503758/usa-finally-moves-embassy-jerusalem How is Jerusalem a burdensome stone to China, Vietnam, Japan, Korea India and Sweden? What has ancient Jewish mythology got to do with our reality today? Can you see how ridiculous your delusion is? |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:27pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
Halleluiah in the highest. We are in the end game now. (Doctor strange).
It has begun. we were in the endgame in 1988,1989,1999,2001,2012,2018. Left to you people 3018 and we will still be in endgame. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:27pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman:
How is Jerusalem a burden stone to China, Vietnam? India and Sweden? What has ancient Jewish mythology got to do with our reality today? Can you see how ridiculous your delusion is? You will soon understand what the word burden stone means. E go do you vaaam for eye. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) You will soon see how economically linked every country is to the other which is why they all have allies. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by tintingz(m): 4:28pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
Sorry but you are the one who did not see the absurdity in your post.
Social media is not God and isn't seen as such (unless you wish to start that yourself )
God stands distinct from all else and till date is the longest "trending" thing known to man. Beat that with social media. You still don't see your absurdity, Churches now depends on social media to advertise thier business. Social media is God, everyone now make use of Social media than the time use in praying to God. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 4:29pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader:
we were in the endgame in 1988,1989,1999,2001,2012,2018. Left to you people 3018 and we will still be in endgame. Even Jesus told his disciples that they were in the enday game and that he will come back during their life time. That was 2000 years ago. This deluded African is busy yapping nonsense. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:30pm On May 14, 2018 |
tintingz: You still don't see your absurdity, Churches now depends on social media to advertise thier business.
Social media is God, everyone now make use of Social media than the minutes use in praying to God. Like I said, you can be the first to declare social media as God. Nobody is stopping you na ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 4:32pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
You will soon understand what the word burden stone means. E go do you vaaam for eye. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
You will soon see how economically linked every country is to the other which is why they all have allies. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Ogbeni , seems your lies are hurting you. How has the nonsense written in the bible got anything to do with our reality today? Jerusalem will be a burden stone to all the people of the world how? |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:34pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman:
Ogbeni , seems your lies are hurting you.
How has the nonsense written in the bible got anything to do with our reality today? Jerusalem will be a burden stone to all the people of the world how? Maybe he is trying to say that they will become more powerful than USA dem |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by tintingz(m): 4:36pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
Like I said, you can be the first to declare social media as God. Nobody is stopping you na ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I don't need to declare it God, it's God, our new generation supreme God. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:41pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman:
Ogbeni , seems your lies are hurting you.
How has the nonsense written in the bible got anything to do with our reality today? Jerusalem will be a burden stone to all the people of the world how? E go do you vaaam for eye. Meanwhile I am still waiting for your verifiable evidence that a man or a group of men somewhere invented God. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:42pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader:
Maybe he is trying to say that they will become more powerful than USA dem I will repeat, you still have a lot to learn in the your deep ignorance if this is what you could take away from what I said. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:43pm On May 14, 2018 |
tintingz: I don't need to declare it God, it's God, our new generation supreme God. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Yet it was created. Good luck with your new found God. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:45pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
I will repeat, you still have a lot to learn in the your deep ignorance if this is what you could take away from what I said.
what were you trying to say? please help me understand and don`t quote bible verses for me, mr wise guy |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:47pm On May 14, 2018 |
Jesus committed the sin of suicide
If Jesus was God as claimed by nearly all Christians, then he had the power to avoid being arrested and crucified. Therefore his crucifixion was a suicide, which is a sin according to Christian doctrine. Not only did Jesus not take actions fully within his capability to avoid being killed, he even predicted his death on multiple occasions, indicating that his suicide was premeditated.
Essentially, what Jesus did is equivalent to somebody brandishing a gun and threatening police so they can be shot- suicide by cops, as it were. Keep in mind that this allegation is aimed only at the Christian concept of Jesus. Secular historians believe that Jesus never predicted his death and did not seek nor expect his crucifixion.
Christians will claim that Jesus could be excused for failing to take actions to protect his life because it was a cosmic necessity for him to die so that sins could be forgiven. But if this is the case, then Christians should not blame either the Romans or the Jews for Jesus’s death- it was Jesus himself who is to “blame.” |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:48pm On May 14, 2018 |
Dalaman you will soon grasp the meaning of a burden stone. If 137 countries had to gather and be asked to vote for the resolution to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel yet you fail to see how it is a burden stone to the world. When only 9 countries voted against this resolution yet Trump still went ahead to carry out the act despite 128 being against it, you will soon understand what it means for Jerusalem to be a burden stone. E go do you vaaam for eye ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by winner01(m): 4:48pm On May 14, 2018 |
tintingz: Mr bean didn't speak anywords in his shows and he was very successful, same as Tom and Jerry infact most shows during the 70/80s no words were spoken.
It's not about the words but about the production, if A.Y didn't have publicity agents or sponsors do you think he will be successful and known? There are more unknown talented comedian than A.Y out there. Okay, but as for A.Y and other comedians he invites to his show, they created a living our if their words. Me, just like Mr bean, no not need to directly create our living like A.Y and other comedians. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by winner01(m): 4:50pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader:
we were in the endgame in 1988,1989,1999,2001,2012,2018. Left to you people 3018 and we will still be in endgame. If the Bible was written through a 4,500 year period, and you're mocking the "end game" mere 2000 years later, what do we call you? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:51pm On May 14, 2018 |
winner01: If the Bible was written through a 4,500 year period, and you're mocking the "end game" mere 2000 years later, what do we call you? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) Delusional ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by winner01(m): 4:51pm On May 14, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader: Jesus committed the sin of suicide
If Jesus was God as claimed by nearly all Christians, then he had the power to avoid being arrested and crucified. Therefore his crucifixion was a suicide, which is a sin according to Christian doctrine. Not only did Jesus not take actions fully within his capability to avoid being killed, he even predicted his death on multiple occasions, indicating that his suicide was premeditated.
Essentially, what Jesus did is equivalent to somebody brandishing a gun and threatening police so they can be shot- suicide by cops, as it were. Keep in mind that this allegation is aimed only at the Christian concept of Jesus. Secular historians believe that Jesus never predicted his death and did not seek nor expect his crucifixion.
Christians will claim that Jesus could be excused for failing to take actions to protect his life because it was a cosmic necessity for him to die so that sins could be forgiven. But if this is the case, then Christians should not blame either the Romans or the Jews for Jesus’s death- it was Jesus himself who is to “blame.” what right do you think you have to tell God what to do and what not to do? I really need to create the thread, who is God. Cos it seems you think you have any rights apart from that with your creator has given you |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:53pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Dalaman you will soon grasp the meaning of a burden stone.
If 137 countries had to gather and be asked to vote for the resolution to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel yet you fail to see how it is a burden stone to the world.
When only 9 countries voted against this resolution yet Trump still went ahead to carry out the act despite 128 being against it, you will soon understand what it means for Jerusalem to be a burden stone.
E go do you vaaam for eye ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Guy, you excel in talking trash. like i said before, our country`s people are suffering, Africa is suffering, yet you are praising your racist god for putting USA embassy in jerusalem. I hope you are a troll, cos i desperately want to believe that this Nigerian mentality of praising mediocrity is not going to show during 2019 election, so please get sense. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:54pm On May 14, 2018 |
Dalaman the burden stone is being unveiled already. This is the world leaders reaction. Live updates
16:16
France calls for Israeli restraint
France’s Foreign Minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, has called on the Israeli authorities to "act with caution and restraint in the use of force, which must be strictly proportional". "It is urgent to reinstate the conditions necessary for the pursuit of a peaceful solution in a regional context already marked by high tensions," he added. "France is calling on all actors to act responsibly to prevent a new flare-up."
He also reiterated France's opposition to the US embassy move, saying it "violated international law and, in particular, UN Security Council resolutions". Mr Le Drian met his UK counterpart, Boris Johnson, in London on Monday.
16:11
BREAKING Death toll rises to 43 - health officials
Monday's death toll in Gaza has risen to 43, Palestinian health officials say, with more than 2,238 people reported injured.
It is the deadliest day since the start six weeks ago of a series of protests dubbed the "Great March of Return" along the Israel-Gaza border fence.
There have been at least 90 fatalities in this latest spell of demonstrations, according to the Palestinian health ministry.
16:06
PLO calls for general strike to mourn dead
The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) has reportedly called for a general strike "to mourn the martyrdom" of protesters on the Israel-Gaza border.
The official Palestinian news agency, Wafa, cited PLO Executive Committee member Wasel Abu Yousef as announcing a "complete strike" across the Palestinian territories.
15:57 US has 'insulted the world', says Abbas spokesman
A spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has warned that the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem will further destabilise the Middle East. "With this step, the US administration has cancelled its role in the peace process and has insulted the world, the Palestinian people and the Arab and the Islamic nation and it has created incitement and instability," Nabil Abu Rdeineh told Reuters news agency.
15:51
Top US diplomat praises embassy move
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is yet to say anything about the violent clashes at the Gaza border. He has released a statement praising President Trump's decision to relocate the US embassy, saying he looked forward to returning to Jerusalem soon.
President Trump tweeted twice on Monday to celebrate the embassy's opening, but also chose not to address the deadly violence in Gaza.
His son-in-law and aide Jared Kushner briefly noted the protests in his speech at the embassy opening event, saying the protesters were "part of the problem and not the solution".
Here's Mike Pompeo's statement in full:
15:50
Protesters 'hurling firebombs and explosive devices' - IDF
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said 40,000 Palestinians are taking part in "violent riots" in 13 locations along the Israel-Gaza border, and that it is determined to fulfil its mission to protect Israeli territory and civilians.
"The rioters are hurling firebombs and explosive devices at the security fence and at IDF troops and are burning tires, throwing rocks and launching flaming objects with the intention of igniting fires in Israeli territory and harming IDF troops," a statement said.
"IDF troops are responding with riot dispersal means and fire, and are operating according to standard operating procedures."
Rights groups - including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch (HRW) and others - have condemned the IDF's actions.
“The policy of Israeli authorities to fire irrespective of whether there is an immediate threat to life on Palestinian demonstrators in Gaza, caged in for a decade and under occupation for a half century, has resulted in a bloodbath that anyone could have foreseen,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, the HRW's Middle East director.
15:31
Israel says jet struck Hamas facility
An Israeli fighter jet has struck a military training facility belonging to the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the northern Gaza Strip, according to a statement from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
"The strike was conducted in response to the violent acts of the last few hours being carried out by Hamas along the security fence," the statement says.
Earlier, an aircraft and a tank targeted two Hamas military positions in response to an incident in which Israeli forces were fired upon, the statement adds. "The IDF operates with determination in order to prevent massive terror activities constantly being led by the Hamas terror organisation in. Each act of terror will be met with a harsh response."
Hamas and other groups organising the protests on the Israel-Gaza border say they are peacefully calling for the right of Palestinian refugees to return to land they fled from or were forced to leave in 1948, when Israel was created.
The Israeli government has long ruled out any right of return and says terrorists are using the cover of the protests to try to cross illegally into its territory.
15:22
Egypt joins condemnations of force
Egypt's foreign ministry has released a statement condemning the Israeli military's use of force at the border.
Egypt rejects the use of force against peaceful marches demanding legitimate and just rights, and warns of the negative consequences of this dangerous escalation in the occupied Palestinian territories."
15:13
US 'breaking international law'
As triumphant speeches continue at the new US embassy, the Palestinian foreign ministry has accused the US administration of “acting on its arrogance of power and disdain for Palestinian rights” and stressed that the fate of Jerusalem “will only be determined in line with international law”.
"As the Palestinian people commemorate seventy years since the onset of their Nakba (catastrophe) of dispossession, denial, and injustice, the US administration added insult to injury in Jerusalem by defying international law and rejecting UN Security Council resolutions relevant to Palestinian rights, especially in Jerusalem," a statement carried by the official Wafa news agency says.
The ministry adds: "The Palestinian leadership will continue to pursue all available legal and diplomatic avenues to defend our people's rights from Israel's entrenched regime of colonisation and aggression as well as states that defend and sponsor this regime of oppression. This is also an international responsibility."
Israel regards Jerusalem as its "eternal and undivided" capital, while the Palestinians claim East Jerusalem - occupied by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war - as the capital of a future state.
15:09
Benjamin Netanyahu: 'This is history'
Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke after Kushner. He personally thanked Kushner and Ivanka Trump, and President Trump.
"What a glorious day. Remember this moment. This is history. President Trump, by recognising history, you have made history."
He praised Israeli soldiers who were "protecting the borders of Israel, as we speak, today".
He saluted the intelligence and security services too, to applause from the crowd.
Today, the embassy of the most powerful nation on earth. Our greatest ally, the United States of America. Today, its embassy opened here!" Benjamin Netanyahu Israeli PM
15:06
Kushner: 'Once again the US can be trusted'
Jared Kushner minutes ago finished speaking at the opening ceremony. He called Jerusalem "the eternal heart of the Jewish people".
"By moving our embassy to Jerusalem we have showed the world once again that the United States can be trusted."
That remark caused some consternation from commentators, who pointed out that President Trump has just spectacularly reneged on the nuclear deal signed with Iran under the Obama administration.
In the first reference from a Trump official during the ceremony to the violence taking place at the border, Kushner said: "Those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution."
He said the controversial decision to move the embassy "did not reflect a departure from our strong commitment to lasting peace".
"The United States is prepared to support a peace agreement in every way that we can. We believe that it is possible for both sides to gain more than they give so that all people can live in peace safe from danger, free from fear and able to pursue their dreams," he said.
14:57
Lebanese PM: Embassy move is 'provocative'
Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri said in a series of tweets on Monday that the US embassy relocation was a "provocative" move that would "further exacerbate" tension in the region.
"We affirm our complete solidarity with the Palestinian brothers in their legitimate struggle," he said. View more on Twitter
14:54
Human rights groups condemn Israel's use of force
Human rights groups have condemned the Israeli military's use of force against protesters at the Gaza border.
Amnesty International called it an "abhorrent violation of international law". View more on Twitter
Israeli group B’Tselem said the Israeli authorities had shown an "appalling indifference towards human life" and called for an "immediate halt to the killing of Palestinian demonstrators".
The demonstrations held in Gaza today came as no surprise. Israel had plenty of time to come up with alternate approaches for dealing with the protests, apart from firing live ammunition. The fact that live gunfire is once again the sole measure that the Israeli military is using in the field evinces appalling indifference towards human life on the part of senior Israeli government and military officials.
B’Tselem calls for an immediate halt to the killing of Palestinian demonstrators. If the relevant officials do not issue an order to stop the lethal fire, the soldiers in the field must refuse to comply with these manifestly unlawful open-fire orders. B’Tselem
14:51
UN chief concerned over ‘high number of people killed’ in Gaza
UN Secretary General António Guterres expresses concern about the reported death toll at the protests in Gaza, the Associated Press reports.
"I'm particularly worried about the news coming from Gaza with the high number of people killed," he tells reporters in Vienna.
14:39
Ivanka Trump unveils plaque at embassy
US Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and Mr Trump's daughter, Ivanka, unveiled a plaque on the wall of the building that will serve as the temporary home of the US embassy.
"On behalf of the 45th president of the Unites States of America, we welcome you officially and for the first time to the embassy of the United States here in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel," Ms Trump said.
14:37
Trump: 'Congratulations. It's been a long time coming.'
President Trump did not travel to Jerusalem for the opening ceremony, but a video message from him was just played on a big screen there.
He said: "Exactly 70 years ago today the United States under Harry Truman became the first nation to recognise the state of Israel. Today we open the US embassy in Jerusalem. It's been a long time coming."
He added: "Today Jerusalem is the seat of Israel's government. It is the home of the Israeli legislature and the Israeli supreme court and Israel's prime minister and president.
"Israel is a sovereign nation with the right like every other sovereign nation to determine its own capital. Yet for many years we failed to acknowledge the obvious. The plain reality that Jerusalem is Israel's capital.
Mr Trump said he had accomplished the relocation "many many years ahead of schedule", adding that the US would "always be a great friend to Israel and a partner in the cause of freedom and peace".
Source:http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-44110417. E go do you vaaam for eye. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by winner01(m): 4:56pm On May 14, 2018 |
tintingz: I don't need to declare it God, it's God, our new generation supreme God. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) The difference between us is that, I am not obsessed with your own version of god. I don't talk or think about your god 24/7. I don't think you can say the same for yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:57pm On May 14, 2018 |
winner01: If the Bible was written through a 4,500 year period, and you're mocking the "end game" mere 2000 years later, what do we call you? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) I see, you are a creationist, no wonder arguing with you has proven to be futile, you have been voluntarily caged by fundamentalism. If the Bible was written through a 4,500 year period the next time you want to defend your fairy tale remember that the bible was supposedly composed over a 1,500 year period. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 5:02pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Dalaman the burden stone is being unveiled already.
This is the world leaders reaction.
E go do you vaaam for eye. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) So this is what you are rejoicing for, a situation that could devolve into war, I thought i couldn`t be surprised but you shown me how evil you are to be enjoying such a thing. |