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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:35am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Shahktar Donetsk is bigger and better than Leicester City, CSKA Moscow and Cronto. Fact And doesn't change the quality of play of Shakhtar Donetsk over these clubs. These clubs will struggle to get top 5 in the Ukrainian league though CSKA Moscow may make the first 3 or 4 based on club rankings. But you claimed Kayode performance in the first half of the season was poor. Do agree Iheanacho and Musa performance in the first half of the season was even poorer than Kayode's first half of the season? No! I used both Kayode's first half of the season in La Liga which is better than these aforementioned players and the second half of the season which is all as good as some of these players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:39am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: The simple truth is that Kayode goofed big time. Either because of greed, bad advice from his agents or some other factors. You don't leave a club where you are banging in goals week in week out for fools gold in Man City with less than a year to the world cup. If he had remained at Austria Wein and maintained the same form, Rohr would have found it difficult to ignore him. Better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. This is a valuable lesson for Kayode and others. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:40am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: what about the quality of the league ? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 10:40am On May 15, 2018 |
For avoidance of doubt... Those names with red lines are the players i personally wish that won't make the final list. Regardless of that,.. I will support entirely any member chosen in the final 23 by Rohr
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:41am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Ants are considered wise because they prepare against tomorrow. Can you please remind me of the day Mikel Obi and Echejile got injured prior to the 2010 WC? Oyinbo man doesn't pray, he prepares against all odds and that is why they are where they are today. You don't pray for evil but you prepare against evil. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 10:42am On May 15, 2018 |
To Oga Forgiveness :Ukrainian league of all places. Oga no matter how you try to paint Kayode as Lionel Messi he remains a poor player. He has not proved himself. Kayode is a flash in the pan 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:44am On May 15, 2018 |
Truidstar: Why didn't you tell Sadio Mane and Gaby Keita to remain in Austria? Do you pray to be stagnate or progress? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:46am On May 15, 2018 |
Joebie: The Atletico friendly will feature local lads and fringe professionals so it is possible. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:47am On May 15, 2018 |
zuchyblink: I know why he is a poor player to you and I already know it has nothing to do with football reasoning. The future will tell. You are not God. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:53am On May 15, 2018 |
You only say the bolded now because you refuse to acknowledge the argument line that says EPL and Serie A are Waaaaayyyyy bigger than the Ukrainian league. And The Russian League is also bigger than the Ukrainian league. If Kayode was playing in the EPL now, and Maybe a Musa in the Ukrainian league for Shahktar, you won't play the "Shaktar is bigger" card Egbon... You will play "the EPL is way bigger" card be it in terms of quality of oppositions, players and more. I remember when Kayode signed for Man City on loan... You were rubbing it in everyone's faces that Man City sold Nacho and signed Kayode... You didn't even wanna acknowledge that Man City sold Nacho with a buy back clause. You were just on and on about Kayode joining City. You and I Know that if Kayode had played one game for City, you will be using that as yardstick as well... Dont lie Egbon... We have played this kinda ping pong before so we know each other Kayode had more chances to feature in the first half of the LA liga season compared to Nacho and Musa in the first half of the EPL season... Kayode had more minutes than both of them all before January even. #Fact. Musa was not rated by Shakespeare and Nacho had to battle with a toe injury which limited greatly his integration into the Leicester team. forgiveness: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:53am On May 15, 2018 |
lexyman: There are some factors used to rate a player. One of them is the quality of the league and the other is the quality of the team/club. Going by the quality of the team, I don't think Shakhtar Donetsk is a weakling compared to those clubs involved neither is is it a weakling to any of the top 5 in those major clubs. In short, Shahktar Donetsk and the second best club in Ukraine will dominate the Russian league. Fact. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 10:53am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness:sir, Kayode could be the future world best player but for now he is not better than the strikers called up 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:57am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: And in preparing against Evil, we don't wish for evil... The 30-man list is out and every possible hole is covered. Unless you are saying we could have unusual happenings like five key injuries to put us in serious crises... Eh?
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:01am On May 15, 2018 |
realpoacher: You marked out Moses Simon and left Uche Agbo? 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:04am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: Oga forgiveness you don start to dey cry like sheep abi ? Because dem no call kayode ? But you will not speak of onyekuru even despite onyekuru injury he had a better season than kayode. Yes shaktar is a big club,but no shaktar striker will start at leichester as far as vardy is there,no shaktar winger will start at leichester mahrez is there,Fred will make the team of leichester and maybe taison and the shaktar defender,iborra left Sevilla for leichester,adrien silva left sporting cp for leichester,the last time I checked Sevilla is a bigger and better club than shaktar. Just the way you are crying for kayode if he deserves to be on that team,he is only better than simmy and Lakosa and those 3 will not be at the World Cup Remember I told you earlier when we had an arguement that kayode will never go to the World Cup,I pray shaktar sign him permanently because he is good. Stop crying your cry cannot change the list,anyway I expected you to cry when your Yoruba players aren't invited 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:05am On May 15, 2018 |
Martz101: That's the major problem with Nigerians. You discard your best performing players just in the name of old age and rebuilding. Which nation does that because of age? You don't even know what you are saying. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 11:06am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: i was expecting you to talk about the entire league , you can only pick 2 clubs that are better , same thing you have to consider ....Kayode is not a bad player , but he is not better than any of the selected strikers .. don't forget he has been tested but he brought nothing exceptional ... abi you no watch am play ? head to head Ighalo is better than him , and Simy approach is different ...i have not had time to watch Lokosa .... but 18goals in 21 league matches says it all ... going by the stat . he is better than all the selected strikers . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:08am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: Shaktar is the best club in Ukraine unless you are looking at history then you can call dynamo Kiev. Shaktar will not dominate Russia,the Cska boys are good there is also zenith the big spenders what about locomotive Moscow ? Shaktar has won 1 Europa league and Cska has won 1 Europa league,shaktar best champions league performance is round of 16 while Cska Moscow has been in the quarter finals 2009-10 season,so how is shaktar a barter club than Cska ? Or is it because they normally pack Brazilians from Brazil league ? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 11:08am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: Better refund the money paid to you by those players else it won't be funny when they come for you... Nonsense!.. Nonsensical!!... Oniranu jati jati... 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:11am On May 15, 2018 |
forgiveness: You are not getting my point. Patience. If he had remained in Austria and kept the same form he displayed, he would make the cut for the world cup. He goes to the world cup and does well. His market value goes up. Its a win -win situation. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:18am On May 15, 2018 |
Certitude: Really? But my brother... That was also my first full WC naa... I saw little of France 98 because I was 6. But na from Nigeria 99, Afcon 2000, Euro 2000 and UCL 1999/2000 I start my football Journey. . But I dey find that Germany 2006 person.... I need to find am. Dad Icon4s don sabi why... 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:18am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: First of all, your statement that Kayode's season in the first half at Girona-fc was poor, right? Agreed Now, do you also agree that Iheanacho and Musa's first half season were poorer than Kayode's first half of the season in the la Liga? I can also make excuses for Kayode. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:21am On May 15, 2018 |
But how can theirs be poorer when both had less game time compared to Kayode even? Kayode bettered them in the game time dept and still didn't perform. This is just for the first half of the season. Meanwhile Nacho was injured for a good part of the first half of the season while Musa was hardly given a chance. forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:22am On May 15, 2018 |
Truidstar: How can Kayode who was ignored by the coach despite the fact that he was the highest goalscorer and the best player in the same Austria league make the list? He was told to move away from the Austrian league if he wants to make the team which he did. Do you want him to disobey the same people who determines who makes the list? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:23am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Continue searching son. You are getting close. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:29am On May 15, 2018 |
But Egbon... Kayode did move and Newcastle wanted him badly. Infact he was supposed to sign for them and feature in the EPL but someone or something ill-advused him and turned his head with a man city offer. It was even a loan offer. They obviously deceived Kayode into thinking he can break into that Man City team. Kayode was not realistic... He followed greed and chose a man city loan for himself when to pep it was all just a business tactic to buy Austria's MVP and resell him based on that prestige and earn some extra change (money) for the City group. Also, Kayode to Shahktar now could possibly be part of a bigger plan to lure Fred from Shahktar to Man City. Time will tell om that minute detail. In conclusion, Pep simply had no single plan for Kayode to feature in Man City colors. That is the truth. Kayode should have gone for an EPL club that wanted to sign him outright... forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:33am On May 15, 2018 |
Truidstar: Gbam! There's only one person to blame for Kayode's omission from the squad and his name is Kayode. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:40am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Iheanacho and Musa were fit for the first half of the season. Even though Iheanacho was fit and played for the first half of the season, he didn't perform. We all know how poor he was in the first half of the season. Musa was with the U23. Is that better than Kayode's first half season? Can you please show me the matches he missed due to injury in the first half of the season and the length of the injury with facts? Does it change the fact that Kayode's first half of the season was far better than that of Iheanacho and Musa? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43am On May 15, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Is this a fact or speculation? If it fact, please kindly provide the evidence that backs your claim that Manchester City doesn't have a plan. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:46am On May 15, 2018 |
Iheanacho was not fit for all parts of the first half of the season and I believe the previous pages of this huge thread did justice to that with news and updates. Feel free to scroll back and check them up. You denying knowledge of Iheanacho's toe injury relapse after that first Arsenal game (when he came in as a sub) is very very funny. Leicester kept updating the public before every match day us on how he was trying to battle out of his toe injury and how they must take it easy on him. And how ehen he is fully fit, Leicester will see the best of Nacho... these were even Shakespeare's comments. Egbon Forgiveness... you not knowing this shows your argument is invalid. I will end it here. forgiveness: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:47am On May 15, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Wasn't comparing both. I'm saying Rohr could've found a spot for Sadiq if he really wanted to. Form was not the major criteria in terms of the new faces |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:47am On May 15, 2018 |
andrew444: The current UEFA club ratings suggest that Shakhtar Donetsk and Dynamo Kiev are better than CSKA Moscow. 1 Like |
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