Joebie:
because MetalJigsaw go like know oh.. even me sef.. this your shacking early o

forgiveness:



Is it Kayode that had preseason or is it Kayode that didn't have injury and missed 5 straight matches from October to December? In January he was already out because he demanded for transfer. How come you are not using that same excuse to judge Kayode?

Pls, note that before both had injuries Kayode was better during those moments. That is the koko.

tbaba1234:


When you go 1 season undefeated, we can have this conversation. For now, there is only one invincibles.

When you go a season and make a hundred points, lead the second team with 19 points, score 106 goals, win 18 consecutive games, win 32 matches, then we can have a discussion on greatness.

Truidstar:


The simple truth is that Kayode goofed big time. Either because of greed, bad advice from his agents or some other factors. You don't leave a club where you are banging in goals week in week out for fools gold in Man City with less than a year to the world cup. If he had remained at Austria Wein and maintained the same form, Rohr would have found it difficult to ignore him. Better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. This is a valuable lesson for Kayode and others.

realpoacher:
For avoidance of doubt... Those names with red lines are the players i personally wish that won't make the final list.


Regardless of that,.. I will support entirely any member chosen in the final 23 by Rohr

forgiveness:


You are right about the 4 assists but it doesn't dissanul that fact that all these players performance woefully this season which is below their standards.

All had a poor first half of the season, nevertheless Kayode performance in the first half of the season was still far better than Iheancho and Musa in the league.

Like I said all are in the same category. Nothing spectacular.

Shakhtar Donetsk is still far better than Leicester City, CSKA Moscow and Cronte. Even if these clubs plays in the Ukrainian league, they will still be dominated by Shakhtar Donetsk and if Shakhtar Donetsk plays in these leagues Shakhtar Donetsk will still be in the top 4. If I am lying or exaggerating ask Manchester City and Roma.

It doesn't take away the quality of Shahktar Donetsk.

My good friend, Kayode will be deceiving himself if he thinks he has a future with the National team under this present coaching crew. He should focus on his club career and forget about the National team. This is my humble advice to him and this is not the first time I am saying these.

TheGoodJoe:


When you go a season and make a hundred points, lead the second team with 19 points, score 106 goals, win 18 consecutive games, win 32 matches, then we can have a discussion on greatness.

forgiveness:


That's the major problem with Nigerians. You discard your best performing players just in the name of old age and rebuilding.


Which nation does that because of age?

You don't even know what you are saying.

Joebie:
u no read OGN tweet? They are claiming Rohr defied NFF and named 30 players instead of 35 players.
I'm thinking they got stories from inside sources as regards some players invited to prosecute the Atletico match. Then they assumed from there that those fringe professionals invited will also be in Rohr's 30 man list. Now they are trying to put a twist to the story.The truth is Rohr has always said he would release a list of 30 players (not the maximum 35). These reporters are a joke

TheSuperNerd:


And that is all you have to say after the 30-man list was released abi Sir GoodJoe?

BascoVanVeli:


So give these guys a chance before labeling them failures.

What league doesn't have one hit wonders? Even Hazard plays well only once every two seasons.

Our league might not have the organization but the natural physicality of the league is more than enough of a measuring stick.

TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmm Mr Martz101.. It is on record that Kayode was both Highest Goalscorer and MVP (Best player) in the Austrian Bundesliga. As simple as that.

He won two awards ... Not one.

Sainty92:
Very true. He is just too sentimental about this Kayode. I can beat my chest and say that Super eagles have in abundance any quality or attributes Kayode is bringing to the team. Is it Speed? Kayode run reach Musa? Is it Techniques? He get am reach half of Ighalo, Moses or KC? Is it trickery? He dey learn where Simon and Ighalo dey. Is it goals? We all know the men who are currently on fire in Chinese league and Epl(Odion and KC). So wat exactly does Kayode bring dat is not already in abundance? But on Simy, we clearly have a man mountain of a goalscorer which we lack in the current Eagles. Someone who can use head to score goals. Dat is one weakness Ighalo has.
Ok quick question ===We can be needing a goal in the final 10-15mins and the team results to crosses into the 18yard box, who do u call Simy or Kayode?

forgiveness:

Is Lokosa better than Kayode? Yes or no?

Martz101:


are you sure you are calling out the right person, when was that an argument ?

Martz101:


I disagree with you all on this, signing for man city from Austra viena and getting a loan to laliga with girona was a very good move for his career, this didn't work out fine but it was a good move.

Nobody become the best in Austria league, he was the highest goal scorer in the Austria league

you all are saying this from a selfish angle of been a Nigeria, will you advise your client or brother to leave a lucrative offer from Man city and a certain loan move to girona for an Austra league

forgiveness:


If Mane Sadio and Keita were Nigerians, they will never smell the national team.

TheGoodJoe:


Most points from the list have been sufficiently dealt with. It will do little trying to add to it. However, I will like to point that Rohr seems satisfied with his selection process and has those he feels are capable of representing the country well in Russia.

For the likes of Eze and Lokosa, I think Rohr just gave those slots for those he wants to look into. I talked of us having a screening process to look into players with high potentials to play for the team. I feel Rohr is using extra slots for those he feels will benefit from working in camp with the main team.

People like Kayode and Onyekuru are players Rohr has worked with in the camp in the past. He has monitored them closely. He has his criteria and plans. If they do not meet what he wants, we need to support the coach as he marches his gallant warriors into the battle field in Russia.

Martz101:


I disagree with you all on this, signing for man city from Austra viena and getting a loan to laliga with girona was a very good move for his career, this didn't work out fine but it was a good move.

Nobody become the best in Austria league, he was the highest goal scorer in the Austria league

you all are saying this from a selfish angle of been a Nigeria, will you advise your client or brother to leave a lucrative offer from Man city and a certain loan move to girona for an Austra league

Truidstar:
Not in world cup year.

comodo:


Even if we have 50 man list, pipu will still complain. The list has been released. QED. Let's rally round them. Its just 1 player out of many. Means the coach is 99.9% correct.
We for kii ourselves for the 2014 list if na like that.

tbaba1234:


I have not labeled anyone a failure.

We need to see Lokosa perform at a higher level first. The league is not a good benchmark, the standard is too poor.

Martz101:


That's why he was invited, in any league 18 goals in 21 matches is no fluke

TheSuperNerd:



I only wanted to see your fine blue prints again.... It's been a while ... Thanks for your little addition at least...

TheSuperNerd:
The price Newcastle wanted to pay was never truly revealed becos Kayode was in Englamd for final talks which never happened again. Simple. No thanks to Man City's interference. But Newcastle and Benitez were confident of landing Kayode before that twist....

I really don't have time now to begin digging up archives of reports of the happenings leading up to Kayode's potential Newcastle move and layer hijack by City... But look at this...




Newcastle are reportedly favourites to sign Austria Wien attacker Olanrewaju Kayode this summer after he smashed his way to the top of the Austrian Bundesliga goalscoring charts last season.

African outlet Score Nigeria claimed sources have revealed that the 24-year-old is expected to sign with the Toon within the next few days, with only a work permit likely to be the only stumbling block.

However, those behind the deal are said to be confident that Kayode’s work permit will go through successfully and the three-time Nigeria international will be a Newcastle player before the end of the window.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2017/08/blogs/transfer-talk-newcastle-favourites-to-land-kayode/

Newcastle badly needed Kayode and were willing to negotiate a price that will make his work permit case valid and good....


Now here is a site to show you something on Prices/transfers of players affecting work permits...



The appeals process is a points based system under which the panel will award points depending on the circumstances of the transfer. If a player scores four points or more, the panel may recommend that the application is granted. Nonetheless, the panel can still reject the application even if four or more points are scored.

Criteria:
The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player is in the top 25% of all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous 2 windows

Point: 3 points



Criteria:
The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th % of all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous 2 windows
Point: 2 points

Criteria:
The wages being paid to the player by the applicant club is in the top 25% of the top 30 earners at the club
Point: 3 points

Criteria:
The wages being paid to the player by the applicant club are
between the 50th and 75th % of all the top 30 earners at the club
Points: 2 points


Criteria:
The player’s current club is in a Top League[3] and the player has played in 30% or more of the available domestic league minutes
Points: 1 point


Criteria:
The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of the Champions League, Europa League or the Copa Libertadores within the last 12 months and the player has played in 30% or more of the available domestic league minutes
Point: 1 point




If the player does not meet the above points based system review, there is a secondary examination under which if the player scores 5 points or more, the panel may recommend that an application is granted. Points can be scored if, for example, the player has played in the final qualification rounds of the Champions League, Europa League or the Copa Libertadores within the last 12 months and the player has played in 30% or more of the available domestic league minutes. The review at this stage is more flexible meaning that the panel can take into account the circumstances if no transfer fee is payable (perhaps because the player has reached the end of his contract) or if the player satisfies some but not all of the automatic criteria.



http://www.danielgeey.com/the-foreigner-debate-the-fas-new-work-permit-regulations-explained/


[b]Based on all these... Kayode was surely in with a good chance of landing a work permit [/b]had the Newcastle deal been carried out to fruition. He took the "greedy" route of "Big club" lure....

By greed I obviously mean the pride of being associated with a big club... Man city didn't offer more... They just offered prestige which Kayode craved.

Martz101:


have you refunded kayode? YES or NO?

Oasis007:
Dear Forgiveness;

Though some think you are a Tribalist, but I only see you as a controversial Person. However, it shouldn't be every time you would feel discontented with the List.

The Argument seems uncalled for, it ain't necessary and simply a Distraction to the Thread at the moment. We ought to be discussing our Chances based on the invited Players. Those who are likely to be dropped and the Reasons for it?!

Enough of this Argument pls. You gonna have to move on, and support the Team as a true Nigerian/ a loyal Fan. We can't always get what we want/desire, we can't be satisfied either.

Kindly end the Discourse before it gets out of control.

Icon79:
Oh please, give me a break! If he's not a tribalist what is he? Can you name a single non-Yoruba player that either Forgiveness or his alter-ego Komekn has ever promoted on this forum? Please name one! The man is a tribal chieftain and I will tell him that to his face if I meet him. I don't give a rat a$$. He and his ilks are the problem with Nigeria today!

I totally gave up on this dude when he kept promoting Dele Alampasu. Someone who has never played even a single game for his clubside. Someone who's been given an invite time and time again but failed to impress. Now, on what basis would any sane human being keep hyping him here, as if he's Nigeria's best goalkeeper since Emmanuel Okala

Now, the flavor of the month is seems to be Olarenwaju Kayode. I practically watched ALL the games Kayode played for Girona this season and I can tell you without any fear of contradictions that Kayode is an average player! There is NOTHING special about him and he's way below several other players in the pecking order. It just staggers my imagination why an intelligent guy like SuperNerd would decide to engage Forgiveness. Are you that bored or something


O pari

Icon79:
Oh please, give me a break! If he's not a tribalist what is he? Can you name a single non-Yoruba player that either Forgiveness or his alter-ego Komekn has ever promoted on this forum? Please name one! The man is a tribal chieftain and I will tell him that to his face if I meet him. I don't give a rat a$$. He and his ilks are the problem with Nigeria today!

I totally gave up on this dude when he kept promoting Dele Alampasu. Someone who has never played even a single game for his clubside. Someone who's been given an invite time and time again but failed to impress. Now, on what basis would any sane human being keep hyping him here, as if he's Nigeria's best goalkeeper since Emmanuel Okala

Now, the flavor of the month is seems to be Olarenwaju Kayode. I practically watched ALL the games Kayode played for Girona this season and I can tell you without any fear of contradictions that Kayode is an average player! There is NOTHING special about him and he's way below several other players in the pecking order. It just staggers my imagination why an intelligent guy like SuperNerd would decide to engage Forgiveness. Are you that bored or something


O pari