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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 8:22pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman: Keep on repeating the part where the sun is out to kill you 200 times a day and maybe it would become a part of your belief system. Why would the earth bother about a magnetic field or ozone layer as a protection? Protection of what? An inanimate painless planet? 4.5 billion scientific years of the sun sustaining the earth must be a lot of years of failed kill attempts on the earth right? ![]() The sun must be a very bad assassin ![]() You keep on making noise about ultraviolet rays but you forget that these same rays give us our much needed vitamin D and also improves our mood. Why would a distant inanimate planet directly benefit a tiny human like me in such a way? Scientifically observed benefits of these same UV rays are below 1)The evidence clearly shows that once you reach a serum vitamin D level of 40 ng/ml, your risk for cancer plunges by 67 percent, compared to having a level of 20 ng/ml or less 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 8:22pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman: A burden stone has been established. E go do you vaaam for eye. ![]() |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 8:40pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: The sun is out to kill us is a fact. The only reason why a human like you is alI've is because of the earth's magnetic field and ozone layer that protects you from the suns ultraviolet radiation. I don't know why the earth is bothered about a magnetic field but it is as a result of the working of its inner core. If the sun cares about us then why will it destroy our planet in the future? As the sun grows and expands the earth's magnetic field will become useless and the earth will eventually destroy the planet as a whole, why will it do that if it cares about humans? |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 8:41pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: You have no answer abi? Keep holding unto Jewish mythology as if it has anything to do with reality. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 8:49pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman: The sun is DIRECTLY beneficial to the earth IS A FACT as well. Can you deny that fact? So the earths inner workings somehow got the remedy for the protection of the earth by itself despite being inanimate and brainless? ![]() And this protection has been extremely effective for over 4.5 billion years right? That must be one hell of a top notch self derived protection mechanism for something as "deadly" as the sun isn't it? ![]() You must have a lot of faith in the future destruction of the earth by the sun yet you close your eyes to the present protection of your puny life by the earth against such a lethal assasin as the sun and you also close your eyes to how directly beneficial the sun has been to the earth for over 4.5 billion scientific years. ![]() Keep on deceiving yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 8:51pm On May 14, 2018 |
dalaman: What you call a mythology is happening right now for the entire world to witness as documented in the bible. You can continue deluding yourself ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 9:26pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: You are a liar. The sun has not been beneficial to the earth for 4.5 billion years. In fact it is the other way round. The earth is 4.5 billion years old, and for virtually all of that time period , the earth’s climate has been inhospitable to human life. Even the earths magnetic field developed over time. There was a time the earth had no magnetic field. The magnetic field kept becoming better and stronger with time. Humans came into the scene about 200 thousand years ago. A very minute time in the scheme of things. The sun is beneficial to the earth because of the earth's magnetic field. The sun on its own does not care about the existence of the earth. It is constantly sending deadly radiation that is supposed to end life on earth but luckily the earth has a magnetic field that is deflecting it. The sun is going to destroy the earth in the future and that doesn't require any faith. It is a fact. The sun is growing and expanding, and as it continues to expand it will totally destroy the earth in the future. If it cares about the earth it wouldn't do that. Even the earth itself does not care about the organisms that live in it because about 99% of all species that have lived are now extinct. Organisms have to adapt to life on earth and not the other way round. The sun doesn't care about the earth because it will destroy it in the future. If it cares it won't and if it cares it won't be sending ultra violent radiation that will require the intervention of the earth's magnetic field. As the sun continues to grow the earth's magnetic field will become useless. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 9:28pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: What is happening? How has the event happening in Jerusalem affected the world and in what ways? |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by budaatum: 10:44pm On May 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Oh? Really? Have you not been calling some "scientific fact" myths? Do you have a monopoly on doing so? Here you go again. You still have not apologised for the last time! There are many scientific facts that have turned out to be myths. Incidentally, I am watching The Hawkin Paradox. It is describe as "a series exploring topical scientific examines Stephen Hawkins most controversial theory and possibly his greatest mistake - the information paradox". He made a u-turn on that myth, eventually, like after 30 years. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 4:41am On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Empty lies. You are a liar that can never stop making things up and lying about them. What evidence do you have access to? Use your spiritual knowledge and tell us who will win the 2019 presidential election in Nigeria. Tell us how Yahweh created the human cell or how he created the earth magnetic field, use your lie lie spiritual evidence to tell us these things. We know it's very easy to sit down and firm empty lies, but when you spew them you better know that you aren't in your Sunday school class where you can keep sharing lies and mythology amongst each other. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by superhumanist(m): 6:30am On May 15, 2018 |
dalaman: Patiently waiting to see how butterflyleo will get out of this one. What an excellent rebuttal 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 8:25am On May 15, 2018 |
[quote author=dalaman post=67565107] Oh so there was a time the earth had no magnetic field? Says who? A witness? YOU ARE A LIAR FOR ATHEISM! The earths magnetic field is said to be scientifically 3.5 billion years old and my question to you is what was it protecting 3.5 billion years ago? Since the magnetic field was to protect us from the "harm" of the sun, what was the magnetic field protecting 3.5 billion years ago? If you say humans came on the scene about 200,000 years ago which leaves us with still approximately 3.5 billion years of protection of the earth by it'd magnetic fields, why then did the earth conveniently generate the perfect protection mechanism for life on earth despite being inanimate and unaware? ![]() . The sun is beneficial to the earth because of the earth's magnetic field. The sun on its own does not care about the existence of the earth. It is constantly sending deadly radiation that is supposed to end life on earth but luckily the earth has a magnetic field that is deflecting it. BLOODY LIAR! I thought you said the sun isn't directly beneficial to the earth earlier and now you do a uturn and claim the sun is beneficial to the earth? You keep saying the sun does not care as if I said the sun is alive ![]() What I want to know is why a huge yellow sun which is about 92million miles from the earth and unaware of the existence of the earth would DIRECTLY, ON ITS OWN be the sustainer of life on earth for billions of years despite both planets being unaware of each others existence as inanimate objects? Why would the sun "decide" to be beneficial to the earth in such perfection for billions of years? Sustaining life, harmonising our weather and climate, nourishing you as an individual, etc? Why? ![]() And why would the earth on its own develop organisms and life that perfectly matches the help and sustainance being provided by the sun despite being unaware of the sun? The sun is going to destroy the earth in the future and that doesn't require any faith. It is a fact. The sun is growing and expanding, and as it continues to expand it will totally destroy the earth in the future. If it cares about the earth it wouldn't do that. Well so far it hasn't been able to destroy the earth for billions of years and also so far scientists have been able to determine that as the sun enlarges, our ozone layer is also healing itself and making re-enforcements and that the earth magnetic field is also "flipping". What this means is that it experiences decrease and increase at intervals of hundreds of thousands of years and from observation is obviously in response to the effects of the sun. SO I ASK YOU AGAIN. WHY WOULD TWO INANIMATE OBJECTS, WHICH ARE UNAWARE OF EACH OTHER, RESPOND TO THE EFFECTS OF EACH OTHER SO BEAUTIFULLY AS IF PROGRAMMED TO DO SO? ![]() Any guesses? Even the earth itself does not care about the organisms that live in it because about 99% of all species that have lived are now extinct. Organisms have to adapt to life on earth and not the other way round. Did I say the earth was alive to care? Do non living things care? Yet it has kept you alive, protected you from your " future assassin " which is the sun for billions of years. ![]() Provided oxygen for you via this protection, given you great weather via this protection. Extinction is not a fault of the earth but a fault of the inhabitants of the earth. The earths role is to sustain life and this it has been doing so well for billions of years. There is absolutely nothing made by man which can still be this effective for billions of years despite the presence of your much dreaded assassin called the sun. ![]() If the sun really isn't a dancing partner to the earth it shouldn't have sustained the earth so well for billions of years. To what end? Why not destroy the earth this very minute? ![]() Why wait till "the future" as you put it. How long is this "in the future"? Another several billions of years? Why wait? ![]() Organisms do have to adapt to life on earth AS THE EARTH ITSELF HAS SO CONVENIENTLY PROVIDED THE ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR ADAPTATION. Its like a forethought was done in advance for such eventualities so whenever it was time to adapt, the mechanisms for such was already available. Why is this curiously so? ![]() You can keep deceiving yourself. ![]() cc superhumanist my favourite mumuhumanist since you decided to butt in, you can also assist in answering my questions. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by superhumanist(m): 10:18am On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:.
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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 10:31am On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: According to scientist the same people's whose works you are parroting about the benefit of the sun. How did you know that the sun is 92 million miles away from the earth? Which measurement did you personally carry out? How did you know that the sun improves mood? Which personal experiment did you carry out? How did you know that the sun emits radiation? Which personal experiment did you carry out? If you don't agree with what the scientist are saying then never use their work to support your mythology and empty points. According to the scientist whose work you are using to support every point you are making here say that the earth was in existence for over a billion years before it's magnetic field began to develop and the earth magnetic field became fully formed about 700 millions years ago after which complex life forms began to develop on earth. The earth has a hot inner core and it's the heat and cooling effect of the inner core that creates a magnetic field. The magnetic field luckily is part of the reason why human life is possible on earth. I did not say that humans came about 200,000 years ago, scientist said so, the very scientist whose work you are posting here said so, it's either you accept what they are saying or just stick to your Jewish mythology and fiction. For billions of years the earth's atmosphere wasn't conducive for human life at all. Even with the earth's magnetic field complex life forms could not exist for billions of years because the magnetic field was still developing.
Shut up liar! Where did I say that the sun isn't beneficial to us? Show me Mr lie lie. All I said was that the sun doesn't care about our existence. Which is actually true, we are existing here on earth only because the earth magnetic field has developed enough to deflect the solar rays from the sun. If the sun cares about us it won't be emitting solar rays with enough radiation that will make human life impossible. The sun is constantly trying to kill us. Take way the magnetic field and we won't be here, if the sun cares about us as you are suggesting then why is it constantly emitting ultraviolet radition that needs to be deflected by the earth's magnetic field? The sun did not decide to be beneficial to us. It is in fact trying to kill us but for the earth's magnetic field and ozone layer. The same sun will destroy the planet in the future, so how does it care about us if it will destroy the whole planet later?
The sun will eventually destroy the earth and that is a fact. As it keeps growing and expanding the earth's magnetic field will become useless. If the earth and the sun were programmed to respond beautifully to each other then who programmed the sun to totally destroy the earth in the future? The sun will also very beautifully destroy the earth in the future, so who planned it like that? As I said the earth existed for about a billion years without a magneticfield, who also planned it like that?
The earth does not care about the existence of the organisms that live on it. If it does 99% of species that have ever lived on earth will not be extinct, they'll all be thriving if the earth cared. You said extinction is the fault of the inhabitats of the earth. What was the fault of the Dinosaurs that made them extinct? Why do you spew rubbish? Even as humans the earth itself is always trying to kill us with many natural disasters. It is we humans that are surviving against all odds by conquering and subduing the earth against all odds. Same with many organism and species, those that couldn't subdue the earth have become extinct and that is about 99% of all species and organisms that have ever lived here on earth. The earth does not provide any enabling enviroment for adaptation, many species could not adapt very well and they have become extinct. You have to adapt against all odds. Humans for example have survived against all odds, against ice ages for example that was meant to wipe them off, but they still survived. Many species couldn't adapt and find a means of survive the ice age and we're wiped off totally . Did the earth care about humans during the time of the ice age or did it care about the other species that were wiped off completely as a result? Does it care about humans when a tsunami strikes? It just does its thing mindlessly and wipes off people and other species in the process. The earth doesn't care. It just does its thing. We are the ones that have to find a way to survive against all odds. Again the earth does not care about anything, it's either you subdue it against all odds or become extinct the way 99% of all species that have ever lived have. 3 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 10:52am On May 15, 2018 |
author=dalaman post=67577244] Hahahahahaha I think this question should go to yourself as the empirically demanding atheist. You say I believe anything without evidence so why should I doubt what scientists say? You should be the doubter because you have not carried out your own PERSONAL findings. ![]() Have you? You call me gullible for being a theist yet you are not for being an atheist but you have NEVER carried out your own PERSONAL findings regarding scientific declarations have you? ![]() According to the scientist whose work you are using to support every point you are making here say that the earth was in existence for over a billion years before it's magnetic field began to develop and the earth magnetic field became fully formed about 700 millions years ago after which complex life forms began to develop on earth. Ogbeni stop punching a wall, you will only hurt yourself. All you are pushing out to me are things YOU have NEVER verified for yourself as the always demanding for EVIDENCE atheist you are. Are you not a hypocrite? ![]() So where did the life forms that developed on the earth come from since the earth was not habitable prior to the cooling down of the earth? Win the Nobel prize with that answer! ![]() The earth has a hot inner core and it's the heat and cooling effect of the inner core that creates a magnetic field. The magnetic field luckily is part of the reason why life is possible on earth. I did not say that humans came about 200,000 years ago, scientist said so, the very scientist whose work you are posting here said so, it's either you accept what they are saying or just stick to your Jewish mythology and fiction. I know how the earths magnetic field works dummy. Have you forgotten that you have told me so many times that you lack scientific knowledge during other scientific arguments we have had? So where are you doing this rinse and repeat from? ![]() Asking me to accept or reject whichever should be you telling yourself to accept based on your very own self discovered evidence or you jump off a cliff. It would be a very interesting fall ![]() For billions of years the earth's atmosphere wasn't conducive for human life at all. Even with the earth's magnetic field complex life forms could not exist for billions of years because the magnetic field was still developing And yet they exist today. WHERE DID THEY COME FROM?. [Shut up liar! Where did I say that the sun isn't beneficial to us? Show me Mr lie lie. All I said was that the sun doesn't care about our existence. Which is actually true, we are existing here on earth only because the earth magnetic field has developed enough to deflect the solar rays from the sun. If the sun cares about us it won't be emitting solar rays with enough radiation that will make human life impossible. The sun is constantly trying to kill us. Take way the magnetic field and we won't be here, if the sun cares about us as you are suggesting then why is it constantly emitting ultrate violent radition that needs to be deflected by the earth's magnetic field? The sun did not decide to be beneficial to us. It is in fact trying to kill us but for the earth's magnetic field and ozone layers. The same sun will destroy the planet in the future, so how does it care about us if it will destroy the whole planet later? dalaman: 7:31pm On May 14 You were saying? ![]() Does it matter what the earths magnetic pull does, the fact universally agreed upon by scientists is that THE SUN IS DIRECTLY BENEFICIAL TO US AND IS THE REASON WHY LIFE EXISTS ON EARTH. WITHOUT IT, THERE WOULD BE NO LIFE ON EARTH. Understood? The sun will eventually destroy the earth and that is a fact. As it keeps growing and expanding the earth's magnetic field will become useless. If the earth and the sun were programmed to respond beautifully to each other then who programmed the sun to totally destroy the earth in the future? The sun will also very beautifully destroy the earth in the future, so who planned it like that? As I said the earth existed for about a billion years without a magneticfield, who also planned it like that? Rinse and repeat! The earth does not care about the existence of the organisms that live on it. If it does 99% of species that have ever lived on earth will not be extinct, they'll all be thriving if the earth cared. You said extinction is the fault of the inhabitats of the earth. What was the fault of the Dinosaurs that made them extinct? Why do you spew rubbish? Even as humans the earth itself is always trying to kill us with many natural disasters. It is we humans that are surviving against all odds by conquering and subduing the earth against all odds. Same with many organism and species, those that couldn't subdue the earth have become extinct and that is about 99% of all species and organisms that have ever lived here on earth. The earth does not provide any enabling enviroment for adaptation, many species could not adapt very well and they have become extinct. You have to adapt against all odds. Humans for example have survived against all odds, against ice ages for example that was meant to wipe them off, but they still survived. Many species couldn't adapt and find a means of survive the ice age and we're wiped off totally . Did the earth care about humans during the time of the ice age or did it care about the other species that were wiped off completely as a result? Does it care about humans when a tsunami strikes? It just does its thing mindlessly and wipes off people and other species in the process. The earth doesn't care. It just does its thing. We are the ones that have to find a way to survive against all odds. Rinse and repeat again except the words in bold text and let me show you what it agrees with that would shock you. ![]() ![]() Genesis 1:28 You just supported the words of God with your declaration in bold. So was God wrong when he said man should subdue the earth or do you agree with those words? ![]() Again the earth does not care about anything, it's either you subdue it against all odds or become extinct the way 99% of all species that have ever lived have. Oh how I love today ![]() Again Genesis 1:28 And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, So who is right and who is RIGHT or are you both wrong? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by budaatum: 10:54am On May 15, 2018 |
I guess that's why some chose to worship the sun! How manifold it is, what thou hast made! They are hidden from the face (of man). O sole god, like whom there is no other! Thou didst create the world according to thy desire, Whilst thou wert alone: All men, cattle, and wild beasts, Whatever is on earth, going upon (its) feet, And what is on high, flying with its wings. The countries of Syria and Nubia, the land of Egypt, Thou settest every man in his place, Thou suppliest their necessities: Everyone has his food, and his time of life is reckoned. Their tongues are separate in speech, And their natures as well; Their skins are distinguished, As thou distinguishest the foreign peoples. Thou makest a Nile in the underworld, Thou bringest forth as thou desirest To maintain the people (of Egypt) According as thou madest them for thyself, The lord of all of them, wearying (himself) with them, The lord of every land, rising for them, The Aton of the day, great of majesty.
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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 11:36am On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Shut up Mr hypocrite. One minute you are quoting what scientist have stated as fact and the next minute you are mocking the same scientist and their works because it disagrees with your mythical tales. Just chose which it is, do you accept what the scientist are saying or not? I am here to always point out your ridiculous hypocrisy.
I don't know where the life forms came from. Do you?
And you have which scientific knowledge? I clearly admit that I don't know in cases that I don't, but you? All you do is plagiarize and post them here. You are notorious for that and everybody knows you as our resident plagiarist. Since when does plagiarism equate to knowledge? Keep deluding yourself.
I don't know, do you?
You lie to much. I said the sun is not working to benefit us directly and you spin it and said, I said the sun does not benefit us, you are shameless. Anybody that can read will see that I said the sun is not working to benefit us directly and that is a fact. The sun is benefitting us because the planet has an magnetic field that is able to defelct the sun's ultraviolet radiation. The inner workings of the sun doesnt care about the earth or life on the earth, if it did it will not be constantly sending ultraviolet radiation towards the earth. For example without the earth's magnetic field there will be no humans on earth even with the sun.
Who planned for the sun to beautifully destroy the earth in the future?
Words of which God? When did any God appear to you personally and told you he wrote any book? So the words the ancient Jews wrote down are now the words of your God abi? Some ancient Jews wrote down theor mythical and legendary stories and here to are parroting it like a drone. I've told you many times that the ancient Jews are your God since you keep throwing their words and lying to yourself that they are words of some imaginary divine being, they invented. The ancient Jews knew that humans have to subdue the earth so that they will be able to survive in it against all odds else they will perish. Anybody that is a human being knows that to be a fact. It is our common experience as humans beings.
Stop throwing ancient Jewish mythology at me. You are not ashamed that it is the ancient Jews that reason and think for you through their mythological and fictional writings. 3 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 12:10pm On May 15, 2018 |
dalaman: Do you not say I am gullible? Does my "gullibility"make science an exception? ![]() You are the evidential atheist so where is your personal evidence which you used to prove the science you are throwing around oh ye hypocrite? ![]() I am alos here to show you your hypocrisy any day anytime. I don't know where the life forms came from. Do you? Are you serious that you do not know? ![]() For once you are totally blank ![]() Why not pull it out from your source of answers so far today? Can't science help you in that regard? ![]() Oh how I love this level of your ignorance! Keep wallowing in it until you are tired of chanting I DONT KNOW. And you have which scientific knowledge? I clearly admit that I don't know in cases that I don't, but you? All you do is plagiarize and post them here. You are notorious for that and everybody knows you as our resident plagiarist. Since when does plagiarismequate to knowledge? Keep deluding yourself Ogbeni before anyone would copy anything they have to first of all UNDERSTAND IT TOTALLY. What understanding have you got? If I asked you to explain the workings of the earths core which you have been making noise about would you? Even if you rear about I from a scientific website would you be able to decipher the language and inferences? The reason why I am able to hold pure scientific debates on nairaland and you cannot shows who knows and who doesn't. I can show you scientific debates here on nairaland where you were as blind as a bat and as dumb as a box of rocks with nothing to say. ![]() I don't know, do you? Keep on wallowing. ![]() You lie to much. I said the sun is not working to benefit us directly and you spin it and said, I said the sun does not benefit us, you are shameless. Anybody that can read will see that I said the sun is not working to benefit us directly and that is a fact. The sun is benefitting us because the planet has an magnetic field that is able to defelct the sun's ultraviolet radiation. The inner workings of the sun doesnt care about the earth or life on the earth, if it did it will not be constantly sending ultraviolet radiation towards the earth. Fot example without the earth'smagnetic field there willbe no humans on earth even with the sun. They say you are a liar and show how the sun WORKS to directly benefit the earth AND HER INHABITANTS. https://amp.livescience.com/8639-change-seasons-affects-animals-humans.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2290997/ Who planned for the sun to beautifully destroy the earth in the future? ![]() So much faith in science despite NEVER WITNESSING as an evidence of such an occurrence. Keep wallowing. Words of which God? When did any God appear to you personally and told you he wrote any book? So the words the ancient Jews wrote down are now the words of your God abi? Some ancient Jews wrote down theor mythical and legendary stories and here to are parroting it like a drone. I've told you many times that the ancient Jews are your God since you keep throwing their words and lying to yourself that they are words of some imaginary divine being, they invented. Which ancient Jews knew that man had to subdue anything? Did it say subdue your fellow human? It says SUBDUE THE EARTH! Is the earth an opponent to be subdued? ![]() You cannot deny that your words perfectly match those spoken thousands of years ago can you? ![]() Stop throwing ancient Jewish mythology at me. You are not ashamed that it is the ancient Jews that reason and think for you through their mythological and fictional writings. You threw it at yourself when you quoted verbatim what was said in Genesis 1:28. Na me do you? ![]() You call it fictional but the same "fiction" just matched your own words. Ntoor. ![]() It must hurt to have unknowingly spoken the very words in the scriptures you loathe so much 3 Likes
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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 1:11pm On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Your dishonesty is hurting you. What is this hot tripe all about? You were caught displayin your hypocrisy and you were called put on it. Instead of accepting you are doing your usual butterflyliar dance of shame.
I don't know where life forms came from and I very proudly say it. You claim to know but cam NOT proudly say it. Do you know where life forms came from? If you do say it if you don't then keep quiet because you are just like me since you don't know.
If I don't understand the working of the earth's core I wouldn't be talking about it. What do you know about the working of the earths core that I don't? We can all both read and understand. Shut up you are not able to hold any scientific debates with any body you liar. All you do is copy and paste other people's materials as yours and you've been called out many many times for it by many people here. Since when does plagiarism equate to holding scientific debates? Your shamelessly is clearly is making you unstable.
Do you know how life on earth came about?
Where is it written that without the earth's magnetic field, the sun will work to benefit us directly? SHOW ME!
Why are you so unstable? You are all over the place, pls be stable. You just posted a scientific article and have been depending on scientific postulatations to buttress your points throughout and now you are trying to discredit the same science you have been relying on to make your points because it totally defeats what you are saying. I guess science is only right when it tells you what you want to hear abi? Pls be stable. The sun will destroy the earth in the future, who beautifully a ranged it that way?
The ones that wrote it in the book of Genesis. They knew man had to subdue the earth else he'll not be able to live in it. It's a very common human knowledge. Man can not survive on earth without subduing it. They knew it and wrote it down, only that they lied that their God told them and here you are buying their lies and mythology. So what if the words match this spoken thousand years ago? Even they too also knew that man had to subdue the earth else he won't be able to survive in the world, in fact back then it was more evident because they didn't have all the technological advancement that we have today.
I just said something that all humans know to be true, humans must subdue the earth else they won't be able to love in it. While I said mine on my own, they writers of the bible wrote theirs and claimed that some fictional God told them to wrote it down. 3 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 1:45pm On May 15, 2018 |
[quote author=dalaman post=67581602] Wailing wailer ![]() You are actually displaying your hypocrisy by believing in the science you are throwing around despite no self evidence of your own. What is your evidence that the earth even has a core? I need to see your own verifiable evidence as discovered by you. ![]() Instead of admitting your hypocrisy you are acting like the lying dalaman the salamander you are. I don't know where life forms came from and I very proudly say it. You claim to know but cam NOT proudly say it. Do you know where life forms came from? If you do say it if you don't then keep quiet because you are just like me since you don't know. Did I say I didn't know? ![]() Eeyah delusions are eating you up so much so that you noe wish to speak for me too. I will allow you to wallow more because I am enjoying your ignorance in bold display. I am sure you are searching the web right about now to dig up that answer ![]() If I don't understand the working of the earth's core I wouldn't be talking about it. What do you know about the working of the earths core that I don't? We can all both read and understand. Shut up you are not able to hold any scientific debates with any body you liar. All you do is copy and paste other people's materials as yours and you've been called out many many times for it by many people here. Since when does plagiarism equate to holding scientific debates? Your shamelessly is clearly is making you unstable. So you UNDERSTAND THE WORKINGS OF THE EARTHS CORE? Why do you lie so unashamedly? Science is still studying the earths core till date to understand its workings yet here you sit and claim you understand it despite scientists being unable to yet fully understand it. ![]() Oh dalaman you are such a hypocritical liar. Exactly how and when the inner core started solidifying isn't well known," "In similar vein, it is speculated that the Earth's inner core might exhibit anisotropic properties due to frozen alignment of iron crystals at high pressures," Professor Tkalcic adds. "However, because it is not as accessible as the crust, and the spatial coverage by compression waves is poor, the inner core is, for the most part, still a puzzle." As the Earth gets older, it also gets colder. "At some point in the planet's history, the inner core started solidifying outwards from the planet's centre because the temperature dropped enough to turn liquid alloy of iron and nickel to a solid," Professor Tkalcic says. "The truth is, we don't know when exactly it happened. Therefore, we don't actually know the age of the inner core." Scientists also do not fully understand what the melting temperature of iron might be at those temperatures and pressures. "Part of the problem is that we can't reproduce these hellish conditions in our labs yet," he reminds. "So it remains one of the least understood quantities in science." For decades, we have thought of the planet’s center as well-understood, only to find that it still conceals many mysteries. Deep beneath our feet, a two-layered ball of iron provides fascinating territory for exploration But several of the layer's characteristics are still mysterious. Core puzzles Those are words direct from true scientists who know what they are talking about from here https://www.nature.com/news/earth-science-crystallography-s-journey-to-the-deep-earth-1.14755 Here http://www.yalescientific.org/2015/03/secrets-of-the-earths-core-new-research-contradicts-what-we-thought-we-knew/ And here https://amp.smh.com.au/education/science-of-earths-core-takes-a-dramatic-twist-20150225-13oz5m.html They show you to be a liar when you said you understood the workings of the earths core when it is still very much a scientific mystery as the links above declare? ![]() See how your lies dey catch you. Where is it written that without the earth's magnetic field, the sun will work to benefit us directly? SHOW ME! Where is it written that with the earths magnetic field the sun isn't directly beneficial to the earth? Why are you so unstable? You are all over the place, pls be stable. You just posted a scientific article and have been depending on scientific postulatations to buttress your points throughout and now you are trying to discredit the same science you have been relying on to make your points because it totally defeats what you are saying. I guess science is only right when it tells you what you want to hear abi? Pls be stable. The sun will destroy the earth in the future, who beautifully a ranged it that way? I have shown you clearly that the hypocritically unstable one here is you. Scienctists themselves are calling you a liar. If the sun would destroy the earth in the future, why wait? Why not do so now? Can you give me a date in the future when this would happen oh ye of great scientific faith! ![]() Incidentally the same book of "fiction and myth" was way ahead of science when it declared in 2nd Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up Do the words in bold look familiar? ![]() The ones that wrote it in the book of Genesis. They knew man had to subdue the earth else he'll not be able to live in it. It's a very common human knowledge. Man can not survive on earth without subduing it. They knew it and wrote it down, only that they lied that their God told them and here you are buying their lies and mythology. Oh so they lied right? Yet thousands of years later you are confirming their lie as truth! ![]() So what if the words match this spoken thousand years ago? Even they too also knew that man had to subdue the earth else he won't be able to survive in the world, in fact back then it was more evident because they didn't have all the technological advancement that we have today They didn't have the technology we have today yet knew what we needed to do but we had to wait till we had the technology before we knew ![]() You are actually making my point for me. I just said something that all humans know to be true, humans must subdue the earth else they won't be able to love in it. While I said mine on my own, they writers of the bible wrote theirs and claimed that some fictional God told them to wrote it down. You just said something which was first said thousands of years ago with the non availability of the technology and science we have today and you are proud? ![]() You should be ashamed of yourself if with zero technology and zero science ancient man could know what we need technology today to tell us. They should be the ones proud and boasting and not you. They had no tools yet were thousands of years ahead of science. Eat your heart out. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Zither(m): 2:25pm On May 15, 2018 |
superhumanist: Like seriously? This is gross abuse of reasoning. In other words, the only people who are qualified to contribute in discussion pertaining to sports are those who have participated in them. Journalists, commentators, spectators are "unqualified novices". Lmao. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by superhumanist(m): 2:32pm On May 15, 2018 |
Zither: Oga, your analogy fails. We are talking about questioning ones beliefs. You cannot compare someone who has changed his beliefs many times to one who has always been in one belief. To use your sports analogy, it would be like talking about being able to understand different team tactics and then you have two people- one who has played for different teams and another who has always been in one team. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 2:39pm On May 15, 2018 |
superhumanist: ![]() ![]() Ephesians 4:14 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting When I call some people kids now they will say they are being insulted. Lmao and kikikikikikikikii One person theist ----> deist -----> agnostic -----> atheist What a chameleon! I am sure that right about now they must be colour blind due to many changes they have literally carried out on themselves due to being yet children. ![]() Oya cry and come. ![]() |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Zither(m): 2:40pm On May 15, 2018 |
superhumanist: Please tell me why x = y but y ≠ x, according to you just a simple logic before we progress from there. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 2:50pm On May 15, 2018 |
Zither: Do you want him to commit suicide as this question makes his brain implode? ![]() |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Zither(m): 3:06pm On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Lolz. Suicide ke? Abeg o. My hand no dey o.
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Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 3:06pm On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Isn't this your new Butterflyleo are dance of shame? When ever you are caught you always dance this dance of shame. I remember the many many times you were caught stealing other people's materials and posting them as yours, instead of admitting you always try to display this your dance of shame. It's a part of you. You won't ever stop ![]()
Where did life forms on earth come from?
Your lies and dishonest ways are making you unstable. From the little that scientist have stated about the functions of the earth's inner core I understand it. Scientist have stated how the inner core functions and they've stated that it is based on its workings that the earth's magnetic field is produced. "The Earth's core comprises a solid inner core and liquid outer core, both made mostly of iron. Outside of these parts are the mantle, then the crust on which we live. Earth scientists have theorized that the Earth's core is responsible for the planet's magnetic field as well as plate tectonics". The inner core of the Earth has a radius of a little more than 1,200 kilometers. It comprises solid iron and nickel alloy along with one lighter element — likely oxygen. The inner core has been cooling down ever since the Earth formed, but its temperature is still similar to that on the surface of the Sun. Due to its temperature, the iron it contains cannot become magnetized. Magnetic Field The Earth's magnetic field does not result from the solid iron inner core but from currents generated in the liquid outer core that stem from a phenomenon known as the "dynamo effect." The rotation of the Earth helps create this effect by generating these currents, as do free electrons released from the metals in the liquid core. This combination of free electrons, liquid outer core and a high rate of rotation play an essential role in the creation of the magnetic field. The strength of the magnetic field depends on all three factors." https://sciencing.com/function-earths-core-8782098.html Based on the explanations that scientist have given, I clearly understand how the earth's core works. The rest of the nonsense you wrote is your own commentary on things I never said. Scientist have explained how the earth's core works and based on that I understand what they've explained. I do understand what they've explained. All the nonsense you wrote is your own useless making and it is something I never claimed. Do scientist know a little about how the earth's inner core works? Yes they do, have they explained it? Yes they have. Do I understand it? Yes I do. All the other nonsense you wrote there remains your nonsense.
Pls be stable, you are all over the place. The sun has a stage in its life cycle and as it continues to grow it will one day destroy the earth. Where in the nonsense you quote from the bible does it mention the sun destroying the earth you myth believer? The bible talks about the stars falling into the earth on the day of judgement ![]() The lie lie Jewish hippie who claimed to be God does not even know that stars are distant suns and some of them are way bigger than our own sun which is way way much bigger than our earth, Jesus lied that the stars will fall into the earth. He doesn't know that it is totally impossible. He went on to say more nonsense that the sun will be darkened and that the moon will stop giving off its light. He doesnt even know that the moon doesnt produce any light but simply reflects the light if the sun. It is such nonsense that you believe and are throwing at me. You are deluded. " But in those days, following that distress, "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will be falling from the sky, and the celestial powers will be shaken. "At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. Mark 13:24-26 Only in mythical and fictitious stories will stars fall from the sky and will the sun be darkened . ![]()
Will this happen at the same time when the stars will fall from the sky? Or is it when the sun will be darkened? When exactly will the sun be darkened? Can you tell me when? ![]()
Sure they lied by saying that some God told them, when nothing like that happened. All ancient people knew that for them to survive they had to sudue the earth else they won't survive in it.
Your lies are really making you unstable. Which technology is required to know that man need to subdue the earth before he can survive in it? Which technology is required? Tell me the name of the technology required. How were they thousand of years ahead of science when they said that the sun was created after the earth? They didn't even know what the stars were, remember the vision in the book of Ezekiel where he claimed to have seen a goat's horn grow so tall into the sky that it went and push a star and the star came falling into the earth? That's the type of idea they had about the stars. They didn't even know what they were because they kept saying they will fall into the earth. They had no tools but they could write things down abi? Did they use your fingers to write down their fictitious tales? Are writing materials not tools? How were they thousands of years ahead of science? Which scientific theory did the writers of the bible discover? why are you so unstable? Pls be stable. 4 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:01pm On May 15, 2018 |
dalaman: How sad! The fact that you admitted ignorance of science on other debates with me must be hitting you really hard that you are now desperate to feign some knowledge of science by simply copying from science journals despite not knowing what half of what you are posting translates to. ![]() How sad indeed ![]() Where did life forms on earth come from? You still do not know? Tour science journals seem not especially useful in that regard right? ![]() Your lies and dishonest ways are making you unstable. From the little that scientist have stated about the functions of the earth's inner core I understand it. Scientist have stated how the inner core functions and they've stated that it is based on its workings that the earth's magnetic field is produced. Gosh you are making my job too easy for me. All about the workings of the earths core has been known to me long ago and it must be breaking news to you since I can clearly see how exited you are ![]() Read here Not only is it likely the Earth's largely iron core plays a role in the movements of continents over millions of years, it plays a major role in preserving life here: The roiling iron heart of our planet helps maintain the Earth's magnetic field, which helps shield life on the surface from damaging solar energy. https://www.livescience.com/31008-earth-iron-core-secrets.html Why would the earths core which is DEEP within the earth somehow coincidentally be able to generate the perfect protection for the earth which has been extremely effective for billions of scientific years. Is it coincidence or a stroke of luck from an inanimate planet? Why would this core which is oblivious of the existence of the sun be able to generate the perfect protection for life on earth which PERFECTLY COUNTERS the effects of the sun just enough to sustain life on earth? ![]() Any wild guesses? Pls be stable, you are all over the place. The sun has a stage in its life cycle and as it continues to grow it will one day destroy the earth. Where in the nonsense you quote from the bible does it mention the sun destroying the earth you myth believer? The bible talks about the stars falling into the earth on the day of judgement Yes the stars will fall and FYI those stars are the planets and other planetary bodies which look like planets today and do you know what is holding them all together? Its the gravitational pull of the sun and once the sun ceases to exist as it explodes in fire and great heat, the gravitational pull would cease and all planets would go into free fall. This is common scientific knowledge already known. I guess you were so very ignorant about this as expected ![]() . " [s]But in those days, following that distress, "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will be falling from the sky, and the celestial powers will be shaken. "At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. Mark 13:24-26[/s] Only in mythical and fictitious stories will stars fall from the sky and will the sun be darkened . Such ignorance when you do not know what would happen if the sun ceases to function. So sad to see. The sun by the way IS A STAR and Its expected that about 8 billion years from now the sun would die. How would it die? It would expand and explode in fervent heat and vaporise the earth and every other planet in its gravitational pull. Then it would go dark (confirming scripture). Fervent heat would kill any and everything alive (also confirming scripture) I guess you didn't have any clue about the way a star dies. Eeyah ![]() Will this happen at the same time when the stars will fall from the sky? Or is it when the sun will be darkened? When exactly will the sun be darkened? Can you tell me when? Ignorance is running through your veins but I just helped you out of that above. ![]() Sure they lied by saying that some God told them, when nothing like that happened. All ancient people knew that for them to survive they had to sudue the earth else they won't survive in it. For them to survive to had to subdue the earth yet did not know anything about fossils and solar flares and radiation right? Reasons behind which today's scientists used to warn us about subduing (protecting ourselves) from extinction. yet knew they had to subdue the earth despite their ignorance ![]() Your lies are really making you unstable. I just helped your scientific ignorance by showing you what would happen when a star dies and the sun is a star and is expected to die in the future and when this happens it will explode and of course meteors from her which are large chuncks and other planets and stars which are under her gravitational pull would all go with her. Ancient men who wrote the scriptures already knew what would happen when a star dies and they said it all. 1) it would go dark as it explodes 2) fervent heat would emanate from it and consume everything it holds together All it holds together would be vaporised and fall into each other All this is scientific truth. Do you deny it? Your ignorance is alarmingly catastrophic. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 4:04pm On May 15, 2018 |
Zither: That guy is one of the dumbest atheists on nairaland if not the dumbest alive. |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Zither(m): 5:13pm On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Lolzz. In the past, we've been through this debate that science attests to the fact that there's more to reality than the physical plane but they're so stiff-necked and hard of hearing they sink in their delusion. Scientific proofs, medical proofs all abound to show that atheism is the apex of the manifestation of folly. Do you see why the Psalmist said, 'The fool says in his heart, "There is no God" According to Romans 1:20, 'For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse The argument will always go back and forth but you know why Christians know better? The strength of the atheist's argument is the scientific theory of the Big Bang - despite the scientific evidence, it still lies in the domain of theory therefore it is not tenable. The Christian, on the other hand, has evidence for his belief, his faith. It is not just the abstract, the subjective, the vague that is generally scientifically incomprehensible. The Christian has the concrete evidence of his belief in God. There are a plethora of them and are very easily accessible by all — and they lend themselves to comprehension. Anyway, whatever I have said is not from an undisclosed source. It is, like I said, easily accessibly by anyone. The fact that atheists refuse to admit the error of their argument is that the atheist's mind, like the Op opined, is not free enough to question atheism. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by Butterflyleo: 5:17pm On May 15, 2018 |
Zither: A very good friend of mine with the moniker vaxx once rightly observed just as you are doing here that atheists are closrminded while theists are open-minded and they came for his head that day. They guy is even a traditionalist but knows his onions. Here you are making the very same observation. Your points a re succinct and they can keep deluding themselves. Its their funeral ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by dalaman: 7:30pm On May 15, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: How have I shown that I do not know what I've posted. Can you show me? You think plagiarizing, an act you are notoriously known for means knowledge of science? Again I ask show does plagiarism equate to scientific knowledge? You can't even read understand and make your own points you have to copy and paste qhat others have researched and published.
You can direct all your questions to the scientist that made all the discoveries. But remember that this same sun will some day destroy the earth, who perfectly designed it like that?
You are a ridiculous liar. You always have to tell LIES in order to defend the lies told by the ancient Jews and their mythical narratives. The lairs that wrote the bible said the stars will fall from the sky but in your own lie lie fashion and as the ridiculousliar that you are you are now saying that the stars are planets? Planets are NOT stars, the writers of the bible said stars will fall, now you are saying that they do not know what they are saYing by trying to remix it. They said stars and not planets. I don't need your useless and lying opinion. The writers said stars and I'll go with what they said. You can go and edit your own bible and write planets. Shameless liar. The bible at no where stated that the sun will explode, it only said that the sun will be darkened, when a supernova explosion happens does the sun become darkened? You are so shameless that its beginning to hurt you. So planets will go into free fall and fall from the sky abi? So which of them will fall into the earth? Is it Jupiter , Neptune or Saturn?
You are a liar. The sun will destroy all life the earth in about 1- 2 billion years. As the sun increase in size it will become hotter and the heat will dry up all the, seas and oceans, by then the earth's magnetic field will be useless. The heat from the sun will fry every living thing on earth. The sun doesn't even need to explode before it ends all life on earth, as it continues to expand and grow bigger it will become so hot and the heat from it will destroy all life on earth. The heat will make the earth to become unbearably hot, dry, and barren like Venus. So the nonsense you typed has nothing to do with how the sun will destroy human life. The bible in its fictitious narrative says that people will see the sun when it is darkened, they will see the stars fall from the sky and they will also see the sun of man coming from the shy after these things have happened. ![]() The sun will not end life on erth the way the nonsense writers if the bible said it. In fact they didn't mention the sun exploding they only said it will become darkened and that stars will fall into the earth. So your Jesus didn't know that the stars can not fall into the earth, yet you want us to believe he knows anything about how life came abut abi? Keep wallowing in your bubble of delusion.
You helped me by denying what the Bible said and creating your own lies abi? The bible said stars will fall from the sky, your lie lie that is hurting you says it's planets. Even you know that the writers of the biblessing were totally ignorant and you are trying to correct their mythology. Keep on deluding yourself.
Shut up! They knew about earth quakes, they knew that the seas and oceans were made up of salt water they couldn't drink, they knew about diseases, pestilence, harsh weather and clamatic conditions like floods and drought, they also knew about wild animals and other dangers that had to be subdued else they wouldn't be able to survive. They didn't need any technology to know these things because the things were their reality. They knew they had to subdue the earth else they all become extinct.
Shut up! Mr lie lie, again the sun will destroy all life on earth as it continues to grow become bigger and hotter. It will fry everything and turn the earth to a dry and barren land like Venus long before it dies off. It is expected to end all life on earth in the next 1-2 billion years and die off in the next 5 billion years. Can you tell me the name of the star that is under our suns gravitational pull that will fall off when our sun explodes ? Shut up the ignorant people that wrote the bible did not even know what the stars are, they said they will fall from the sky. They even had visions of a star falling into the earth when it was pushed by a goat's horn. ![]() When the sun explodes it will cease to exist, it will not be darkened, it will die off, your lie lie bible says it will be darkened, it never said it will cease to exist. It only said it will be darkened. I pity you and the useless dance of shame you are doing all because you want to defend ancient mythology. You even refuse to accept the nonsense they wrote and are trying to forcefully remix it. Your lies is obviously hurting you. By the way which scientific theory says that the planets will fall into each other when the sun explodes? Is it the one you made up? Show me where ancient men say that the sun will explode and die, also show.me where they said that the subs heat will consume every thing. I want you to show.me where the bible says this about the sun. Your lies will soon make you go extinct. |
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