lexyman:

comparing the present team to that team , do you think there is a replacement for every player in the first eleven , in case of unforeseen circumstance ?


to me i am still looking for Mikel replacement , even Leon Balogun's replacement is not there

Mikel is the only player that is indispensable right now but i feel Iwobi will do a good job if given the responsibility. Awaziem and Omeruo can cover for Balogun. Against Argentina, we had Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem for a while and the defence was solid

The 2014 team only had a first 11..

TheSuperNerd:

Iheanacho was not fit for all parts of the first half of the season and I believe the previous pages of this huge thread did justice to that with news and updates. Feel free to scroll back and check them up. You denying knowledge of Iheanacho's toe injury relapse after that first Arsenal game (when he came in as a sub) is very very funny. Leicester kept updating the public before every match day us on how he was trying to battle out of his toe injury and how they must take it easy on him. And how ehen he is fully fit, Leicester will see the best of Nacho... these were even Shakespeare's comments. Egbon Forgiveness... you not knowing this shows your argument is invalid. I will end it here.

Actually he was fit but considered not good enough.

He was fit to play in the U23's and fit to play in the cup games. So the notion that he was unfit simply lacks merit. The issue is comparison standard for selection.

If the yardstick for selection is present continous performance then Kayode should at the very least be in consideration and not frozen out quite dubiously as I see it.

Because in reality KC has had a poor season no matter the window dressing or excuses presented. After 21 games in the EPL and three goals is simply not good enough for a £25 million striker.

However his track record for SE is very good and that gives him the nod not his current club performance.

komekn:


Actually he was fit but considered not good enough.

He was fit to play in the U23's and fit to play in the cup games. So the notion that he was unfit simply lacks merit. The issue is comparison standard for selection.

If the yardstick for selection is present continous performance then Kayode should at the very least be in consideration and not frozen out quite dubiously as I see it.

Because in reality KC has had a poor season no matter the window dressing or excuses presented. After 21 games in the EPL and three goals is simply not good enough for a £25 million striker.

However his track record for SE is very good and that gives him the nod not his current club performance.

Iheanacho's form has picked up in the last month.. He has been really good

tbaba1234:


Mikel is the only player that is indispensable right now but i feel Iwobi will do a good job if given the responsibility. Awaziem and Omeruo can cover for Balogun. Against Argentina, we had Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem for a while and the defence was solid

The 2014 team only had a first 11..

Omeruo is error prone . i am yet to trust Awaziem . Ekong partnership with Leon is the best i have seen

edi287:

Wasn't comparing both. I said Umar was in form and yet didn't make the squad. Rohr obviously knows what he's looking for in a striker and he doesn't feel Umar possess it. He could've easily dropped Lokosa if he was that keen on Umar

I laff but not in mockery.

Do you really think that Rohr is totally in charge of team selection and that there are no other influences

kudos! to the manager _Grenot Rorh for d magnificent list he put up. new invites_sammy and MAKOSA 😁 deserved their call up.#soarhighsupereagles

komekn:


I laff but not in mockery.

Do you really think that Rohr is totally in charge of team selection and that there are no other influences

Yes sire, I think he's very much in charge of team selection and while there are obviously other influences and attempts to influence, the list reflects the players he has worked with and he wants to work with sir.

komekn:


I laff but not in mockery.

Do you really think that Rohr is totally in charge of team selection and that there are no other influences

From the list, Rohr is in charge.

He chose players in form like Lokosa and Simy.. He also chose players that he has worked with...

Taliban:


Yes sire, I think he's very much in charge of team selection and while there are obviously other influences and attempts to influence, the list reflects the players he has worked with and he wants to work with sir.

The list reflects the players he has been ALLOWED to work with.

The biggest word for me in football is opportunity not ability. What you do with your opportunity will reflect your ability.

But when opportunity is denied nobody will know your ability.

Finally from all the players given opportunity this is about the best we can get. I think it is proper and good for local league motivation to give players like Eze and Lokosa opportunity.

tbaba1234:


Mikel is the only player that is indispensable right now but i feel Iwobi will do a good job if given the responsibility. Awaziem and Omeruo can cover for Balogun. Against Argentina, we had Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem for a while and the defence was solid

The 2014 team only had a first 11..

Ndidi is arguably indispensable to that team, a no-brainer.

komekn:


The list reflects the players he has been ALLOWED to work with.

The biggest word for me in football is opportunity not ability. What you do with your opportunity will reflect your ability.

But when opportunity is denied nobody will know your ability.

Finally from all the players given opportunity this is about the best we can get. I think it is proper and good for local league motivation to give players like Eze and Lokosa opportunity.

Interesting, could you be gracious enough to kindly educate me on the players he wasn't ALLOWED to work with and who the 'people' giving him the go-ahead are. Like you always say please try not to include emotive sentiments or mere assumptions or hear say or beer parlour gossip or newspaper stand gist. Solid hard proofs would be greatly appreciated.

forgiveness:



The current UEFA club ratings suggest that Shakhtar Donetsk and Dynamo Kiev are better than CSKA Moscow.

Okay Mr southgate aka Roy hodgson olanrewaju kayode agent what has shaktar achieved in Europe ?

optimist25:
Quick flash back at the final 23 man list to the last World Cup in Brazil.

Full Squad
Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Austin Ejide, Chigozie Agbim

Defenders: Joseph Yobo, Elderson Echiejile, Juwon Oshaniwa, Godfrey Oboabona, Azubuike Egwuekwe, Kenneth Omeruo, Efe Ambrose, Kunle Odunlami

Midfielders: John Mikel Obi, Ogenyi Onazi, Ramon Azeez, Michael Uchebo, Reuben Gabriel

Strikers: Osaze Odemwingie, Ahmed Musa, Shola Ameobi, Emmanuel Emenike, Babatunde Michael, Victor Moses, Uche Nwofor

If not for Keshi's great coaching and tactics, these guys would've left the group stage empty handed

I want to see two monikers fight for once especially over the bolded

komekn:


The list reflects the players he has been ALLOWED to work with.

The biggest word for me in football is opportunity not ability. What you do with your opportunity will reflect your ability.

But when opportunity is denied nobody will know your ability.

Finally from all the players given opportunity this is about the best we can get. I think it is proper and good for local league motivation to give players like Eze and Lokosa opportunity.

Sainty92:
So you are saying if Shahktar Donetsk are in English premiership they will be in top 4?? My brother, on a normal day, can u bet Shahktar Donetsk will beat Chelsea or Arsenal who couldn't make d top 4? Or unrealistically beat any of Man city, Man united, Liverpool or Tottenham from top 4. What about Seria A. Juventus, Napoli, Roma, Lazio, Inter will kill Donetsk on a good day. If Donetsk are that good for Epl top 4, how come they hardly pass group stages in Ucl or more realistically, win Europa? All these blind arguments because u wanna sell Kayode to us. Fear God naa...

Which club first shartered Manchester City unbeating record? Shaktar Donetsk.

Arsenal will be work over for Shakhtar Donetsk.

All the few times Chelsea played with Shahktar Donetsk, we fumbled.

If Manchester City chop am, who is Manchester United and Tottenham not to chop am?

Roma was also beaten by Shahktar Donetsk this season. Roma was so scared to attack against Shahktar Donetsk hence the park bus system of play.

Who is Inter, Lazio and Napoli not to chop am for Shakhtar Donetsk hand?

Shahktar Donetsk has won the Europa League in this 21st century. They were even in the Semi finals 2/3 seasons ago.

Shakhtar Donetsk do come out from the group stage.

Don't ridicule Shahktar Donetsk because of one player.

optimist25:
Quick flash back at the final 23 man list to the last World Cup in Brazil.

Full Squad
Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Austin Ejide, Chigozie Agbim

Defenders: Joseph Yobo, Elderson Echiejile, Juwon Oshaniwa, Godfrey Oboabona, Azubuike Egwuekwe, Kenneth Omeruo, Efe Ambrose, Kunle Odunlami

Midfielders: John Mikel Obi, Ogenyi Onazi, Ramon Azeez, Michael Uchebo, Reuben Gabriel

Strikers: Osaze Odemwingie, Ahmed Musa, Shola Ameobi, Emmanuel Emenike, Babatunde Michael, Victor Moses, Uche Nwofor

hmmm... See list. I bet you, only 10players from this list can break into the present team.

Bottom line: 2018 squad list edges 2014 own. Rohr has given us something to savour and hopefully the present team will do the nation proud.

andrew444:


Okay Mr southgate aka Roy hodgson olanrewaju kayode agent what has shaktar achieved in Europe ?

Won the Europa League and played in the Super cup finals.

However, we are talking about current rankings else we talk history and commit blunder to count Nothinham Forest among the best in the world because dem win European champions league.

Icon79:
Oh please, give me a break! If he's not a tribalist what is he? Can you name a single non-Yoruba player that either Forgiveness or his alter-ego Komekn has ever promoted on this forum? Please name one! The man is a tribal chieftain and I will tell him that to his face if I meet him. I don't give a rat a$$. He and his ilks are the problem with Nigeria today!

I totally gave up on this dude when he kept promoting Dele Alampasu. Someone who has never played even a single game for his clubside. Someone who's been given an invite time and time again but failed to impress. Now, on what basis would any sane human being keep hyping him here, as if he's Nigeria's best goalkeeper since Emmanuel Okala

Now, the flavor of the month is seems to be Olarenwaju Kayode. I practically watched ALL the games Kayode played for Girona this season and I can tell you without any fear of contradictions that Kayode is an average player! There is NOTHING special about him and he's way below several other players in the pecking order. It just staggers my imagination why an intelligent guy like SuperNerd would decide to engage Forgiveness. Are you that bored or something


O pari

I had to look up the meaning of alter ego again because I couldn't believe the context in which you use it.

You used the word tribalist as a negative descriptive term.

I really do not understand tribalism. I was born in the UK, came to Nigeria to complete hight school returned to the UK to complete university.

So I speak Igbo first, then my Urhobo / Isoko and if course Warri pidgin and then a smattering of Yoruba.

I would describe myself as totally detribalised.

Recommended players;
Ademola Lookman
Fred Onyedinma ( off the boil now)
Seyi Ojo
Dominic Iorfa
Obagoal first on my list unfortunately Injured.
Efe Ambrose
Sone Aluko
Uche Ikpeazu
Tega Onomah
Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria


Anybody going to Kaliningrad to watch the game I'm intending to go Lithuania seem to be entry cheap flights from Manchester. Maybe then they can testify that I'm not forgiveness LOL

Or if you like I'll be in London to watch Nigeria play England. I'll be with quite a few former Nigerian internationals.

tbaba1234:


The team lacked depth.

you Absolutely right. No bench. We struggled to assemble first eleven then.

They were lucky simple as ABC.

Bolowolowo:


If not for Keshi's great coaching and tactics, these guys would've left the group stage empty handed

optimist25:


Honestly the list was very biased.... What are names like uchebo(flavour)....Gabriel Reuben.... Nwofor uche...doing on this list.
.
.only babatunde Micheal brought some spark to the team as a new player.....
Kudos should be given to gernot rohr for not allowing the NFF to dictate for him!

two days ago, I said it was LUCK that took Keshi's team that far.

That team lacked quality and depth. Our first game against Iran is still one of the most boring game have ever watch. Even an NPFL match is not as boring as that.

lexyman:



comparing the present team to that team , do you think there is a replacement for every player in the first eleven , in case of unforeseen circumstance ?


to me i am still looking for Mikel replacement , even Leon Balogun's replacement is not there

It's Mikel and Mikel alone. I would have added Moses. But Tactics can do the job.

When did the FA Cup games take place? How many games did he play for the U-23s if not one? Your words on Nacho always carry half truths... Always. It is a norm.

21 appearances and how many of them were starts? How was his run of games in the first half of the season?

Nacho finished this season strongly. In the final two months of this EPL season, we saw Nacho bag assists and score goals. He grew into his own. The niggling toe issues he mostly endured with pain killers were now all gone. Nacho was no longer limited on the field. What do you know about medicine to tell me a player fighting to have top physical conditioning and fitness was fit in the first half of rhe season? Huh? Listen mister... I normally ignore your quotes but I take exception to this one. I really don't like you quoting me on here because I don't like reading your views laden with half truths.

Sir Komekn.... Nacho deserved to be on that list based on his club form and also his national team form. Simy's club form is beyond ignorance. Musa too... Kayode has not done more than three at all. Unless you want to tell me too that performing a little in Ukraine trumps performance in your beloved EPL.

komekn:


Actually he was fit but considered not good enough.

He was fit to play in the U23's and fit to play in the cup games. So the notion that he was unfit simply lacks merit. The issue is comparison standard for selection.

If the yardstick for selection is present continous performance then Kayode should at the very least be in consideration and not frozen out quite dubiously as I see it.

Because in reality KC has had a poor season no matter the window dressing or excuses presented. After 21 games in the EPL and three goals is simply not good enough for a £25 million striker.

However his track record for SE is very good and that gives him the nod not his current club performance.

Joebie:
I want to see two monikers fight for once especially over the bolded

wicket child...
you wan watch fight abi?

forgiveness:


Won the Europa League and played in the Super cup finals.

However, we are talking about current rankings else we talk history and commit blunder to count Nothinham Forest among the best in the world because dem win European champions league.

Yeah and I guess Cska did not win the Europa league final against sporting Lisbon 2005 and played in the Uefa super cup final .

Once again you can rant kayode will not go to the World Cup,when keshi drop a classy brown ideye we didn't kill our self talkless of kayode

komekn:


I laff but not in mockery.

Do you really think that Rohr is totally in charge of team selection and that there are no other influences

Sir komekn I think you're in charge sir and not rohr...

please let's support rohr for once...he tried with this list....

TheSuperNerd:
When did the FA Cup games take place? How many games did he play for the U-23s if not one? Your words on Nacho always carry half truths... Always. It is a norm.

21 appearances and how many of them were starts? How was his run of games in the first half of the season?

Nacho finished this season strongly. In the final two months of this EPL season, we saw Nacho bag assists and score goals. He grew into his own. The niggling toe issues he mostly endured with pain killers were now all gone. Nacho was no longer limited on the field. What do you know about medicine to tell me a player fighting to have top physical conditioning and fitness was fit in the first half of rhe season? Huh? Listen mister... I normally ignore your quotes but I take exception to this one. I really don't like you quoting me on here because I don't like reading your views laden with half truths.

Sir Komekn.... Nacho deserved to be on that list based on his club form and also his national team form. Simy's club form is beyond ignorance. Musa too... Kayode has not done more than three at all. Unless you want to tell me too that performing a little in Ukraine trumps performance in your beloved EPL.

Bros save your time Na komekn dey talk him own aka Sam allardyce

komekn:


I had to look up the meaning of alter ego again because I couldn't believe the context in which you use it.

You used the word tribalist as a negative descriptive term.

I really do not understand tribalism. I was born in the UK, came to Nigeria to complete hight school returned to the UK to complete university.

So I speak Igbo first, then my Urhobo / Isoko and if course Warri pidgin and then a smattering of Yoruba.

I would describe myself as totally detribalised.

Recommended players;
Ademola Lookman
Fred Onyedinma ( off the boil now)
Seyi Ojo
Dominic Iorfa
Obagoal first on my list unfortunately Injured.
Efe Ambrose
Sone Aluko
Uche Ikpeazu
Tega Onomah
Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria


Anybody going to Kaliningrad to watch the game I'm intending to go Lithuania seem to be entry cheap flights from Manchester. Maybe then they can testify that I'm not forgiveness LOL

Or if you like I'll be in London to watch Nigeria play England. I'll be with quite a few former Nigerian internationals.

Tribalist just like your brother

Aki and pawpaw

Southgate and Roy hodgson

Looking to the future as regards our Left Back situation. These are 4 dedicated left backs.
First a comparison of Mustapha Abdullahi and Aspire product, Alma Wakili, both plying their trade in the Bulgarian Prva Liga
And another comparison between Dream Team VI Stanley Amuzie (Swiss Super League), and Kingsley Madu (Jupiler Pro League)

Joebie:
Looking to the future as regards our Left Back situation. These are 4 dedicated left backs.
First a comparison of Mustapha Abdullahi and Aspire product, Alma Wakili, both plying their trade in the Bulgarian Prva Liga
And another comparison between Dream Team VI Stanley Amuzie (Swiss Super League), and Kingsley Madu (Jupiler Pro League)

Only Amuzie potentially has a future in the SE among this 4.

AIG07:
hmmm... See list. I bet you, only 10players from this list can break into the present team.

Bottom line: 2018 squad list edges 2014 own. Rohr has given us something to savour and hopefully the present team will do the nation proud.

Dts not d koko,we can take d best and turn out worst at d tournament. Let rohr surpass keshis feat first

he is not a tribalist na.. he is UK leaning.


Urhobo wado!

andrew444:


Tribalist just like your brother

Aki and pawpaw

Southgate and Roy hodgson