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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by nwendujudy: 7:23pm On May 16, 2018 |
nwendujudy:whyqueu: Personally, I think you had issues when you said your Elder sister will be Paying for your studies !! its wasn't convincing enough at all ! A married woman depending on your Elder sister is not strong enough ! What of your Husband and co ? I think that was the major reason why you where denied not because of the school .The interview was going well before you threw everything Thanks for your observation. I also thought as much too considering the fact that everybody mustn't attend an IVY league university. Please house I want to ask,is it adviceable to reapply using the same school and using my spouse as sponsor or wait till spring and get another school( probably a higher ranked school) Am also looking at one exchange program for human right lawyers by next year.(J1 visa) . Would I look desperate jumping from environmental law to human rights law. Both though are LLM programs. Please I need your thoughts on this. Thanks alot |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by nwendujudy: 7:26pm On May 16, 2018 |
whyqueu: Thanks for your observation. I also thought as much too considering the fact that everybody mustn't attend an IVY league university. Please house I want to ask,is it adviceable to reapply using the same school and using my spouse as sponsor or wait till spring and get another school( probably a higher ranked school) Am also looking at one exchange program for human right lawyers by next year.(J1 visa) . Would I look desperate jumping from environmental law to human rights law. Both though are LLM programs. Please I need your thoughts on this. Thanks alot |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by 4gunners(m): 7:41pm On May 16, 2018 |
DammyChrist:I'll PM you bro. Need to talk... |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by harthy007: 7:47pm On May 16, 2018 |
Thanks to all those who have contributed here. I am a silent follower of this thread. Visa approved today at the Lagos Embassy. Time: 6:30a. Young lady in her late 2Os or early 30s. I was her first interviewee and her mood was cheerful. VO: Good morning, How are you? Me:I am Fine, Good Morning VO: Pass me your I20 and Passport Me: I did as instructed VO: Which state are you going to ? Me: Colorado, Boulder. My program is at the University of Colorado, Boulder VO: How did you find out about this school? Me: it was recommended to me by my industry mentor who is a senior manager at Cisco. He emphasize...V.O cuts in.... VO: Did you apply to any other university? Me: Yes, I did. I applied to Cornell University, New York, University of California, Berkeley (made a mistake..just flowed and didnt correct myself), University of Maryland College Park.. V.O seems impressed by schools ..started typing VO: nice, so what will this program do for you VO: I currently work in the IT industry as a Network Engineer. A masters at this point would equip me with the technical and business skills to design plan and build secure and scalable network systems. It will give me the requisite exposure and experience to advance my career forward as Network Architect VO: who is paying for your studies? Me: I was awarded a merit based scholarship and I have a loan and my family support to cover my shortfall. At this point brings out white paper.. VO: By family support,do you mean your parent or who? Me: Oh! My uncle, my dad is late. VO: What does he do Me: He is a Senior manager in the government parastatal **** in charge of *** VO: Have relatives there? Me : No sir VO: What will you do after your program ? Me: There are many lucrative job opportunities in my field here in Nigeria. I will return to take up jobs at top ICT multinationals such as Cisco, HP and Microsoft VO: circled something on white paper and said) Congrats, your visa has been approved, pick up your visa at .....(me:not listening)... Have a nice day Me: Thank you .. have a great day! Do mocks if possible .. do not cram, get use to formulating reply based on ur application intent, sop... No need to be tensed 37 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sorelee(m): 7:59pm On May 16, 2018 |
harthy007: Congrats 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by theamerican(f): 8:10pm On May 16, 2018 |
nwendujudy: You didn't prepare well for your interview, simple. Don't let anyone tell you your visa was denied because your school was unpopular/unranked. That's absolute nonsense. Once a school is SEVP certified to sponsor/enroll/admit (use any other word) international students, you can get a visa with that school! THE END. Now, before replying, I googled GGU and read some stuff about it. I compared what I read to what you answered and I shook my head. Choosing a school like that over the other thousands of schools in the U.S for the reason you gave was NOT good enough. If you doubt me, read the wiki page of that school and you'll see that there would have been better reasons for choosing the school over what you wrote. Check accreditations, rankings, and alumni. You'll see that there's nothing wrong with the school. You chose a private university in downtown San Francisco. I'd also wonder why/how your sister's willing to commit to sponsoring you there and if you'd be stuck. It's gonna be expensive AF despite getting the 18k scholarship. Again, I don't know how old you are or how old your child is, all these things could also play into the mind of the VO. Can't say for sure. Always remember, your sister is not your spouse, parent or child. Those are people considered to have enough "stake" in your life to sponsor you through thick and thin. It'd be different if you were an unmarried relative of that sister. You're married and with a kid, a VO doesn't see you as the responsibility of the sister. She's not legally responsible for your welfare. A VO would trust your spouse or parent to give you $100 than your sibling or other relatives to give you $5. See? I could go on and on about what could have influenced the decision of the VO and you'd see the countless possibilities. It could have been anything, and it's the reason I always stress being over-prepared. Now that we've tried to cover what could have gone wrong, let's see how you can fix it. For a start, you can contact the graduate coordinators or any other faculty of that school and ask them why their school is a better proposition and try to make them tell you the sense in committing a fortune to studying there than anywhere else. You'd be surprised at what you'd learn from them. Add this to other information you read online and work on convincing a VO that you really know what you're doing and not making a mistake AND PRACTISE MORE! Whether it's GGU or Harvard University, burden is on you to do enough to change a VO's mind and make them approve your visa. A VO sees you and is thinking: "this one is an intending immigrant" and has 1,001 reasons to deny your application. It is your duty to have 1002 reasons to change their mind. I'm glad you're a lawyer, get down to work and prepare better. You can still get that visa. It just wouldn't come easy based on the factors that are already against you. You can get a visa with a SEVP certified school, you can get a visa with your sister as a sponsor, and you can get a visa irrespective of your age, marital status or number of children you have. Disclaimer: This is an opinion given after eating honey butter chicken biscuits. Do NOT mistake it for legal advice. 14 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by 4gunners(m): 8:37pm On May 16, 2018 |
DammyChrist:Pls can I have your mail. Need ur advice as regard some issues. Mine is adewalekehinde118@gmail.com 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by hilaryxoxo(f): 8:57pm On May 16, 2018 |
Why not use other more reputable ranking sources like QS world ranking or FT?? To the best of my knowledge, a webometrics ranking is based on the web of the respective university. Ubah1: 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by hilaryxoxo(f): 8:59pm On May 16, 2018 |
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by hilaryxoxo(f): 9:06pm On May 16, 2018 |
You sound so shallow minded... Dollypiizu: |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Arizona042: 9:09pm On May 16, 2018 |
Hello house, I am looking for a cheap hotel close to US embassy Lag. Can someone recommend me with one asap? Thanks. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Walspring: 10:33pm On May 16, 2018 |
jagaban17: Let's give all the thanks to God 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by UzzyBreeze: 10:37pm On May 16, 2018 |
I've been trying to reach out to you for a while. Wanna seek your advise on some issues. Please treat as urgent and kindly reach out to me on uzzybreeze@gmail.com. Thanks in anticipation Cc- theamerican Walspring. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sorelee(m): 10:53pm On May 16, 2018 |
theamerican: At times when some people make statement about other people's input has absolute nonsense I just shake my head in disgust . Such an abysmal way to prove a point... Anyway let me give further input on what I meant by the school not being ranked..... According to US News ranking, Golden Gate Law School is one of the unranked schools in the US infact Of the 200 ABA approved law schools in the United States, US news ranks the first 150, the GGU is in the bottom quarter of all law schools in USA by ranking.. Definitely the VO is aware of this, forget about the SEVP certified talk, maybe 3 or 4 years ago unranked schools had less effect on visa approval, but now it sure does. These days we get to see just 1 out of 10 persons get visa approval applying to an unranked school. We read transcript here where VO denies Visas because the school they applied to is not a good school. Does this mean that schools aren't SEVP certified? (they can't issue i20 if they are not) But it simply because they are mostly unranked schools, to then say you are willing to spend thousands of dollars to attend such schools when they are better tier 1, 2,3 schools. You talked about the scholarship but still the VO was not impressed u said she just starred, but did you know that the school offers scholarships to practically every top applicants who got admitted to the school but reduces or eliminates 60% of them, meaning that you need to have a fairly high GPA or class rank to keep them. Google is your friend I bet you never knew that just recently American Bar Association informed Golden Gate University School of Law that it was “significantly out of compliance” with certain performance thresholds needed to maintain its accreditation ? Even with all of these being said, you might still get your visa with this same school, but what if the school loses its Accreditation? What then happens to the time and money spent ? Not everyone's profile can fit into Harvard or Stanford but they are better options . Be careful what you wish for... 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Patrick2go: 11:07pm On May 16, 2018 |
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by theamerican(f): 11:21pm On May 16, 2018 |
Dear @Sorelee, You largely missed the point. A visa denial happens based on a lot of factors. Is the proposition "If your school is unranked, then your visa application will be denied" true or false? Better still, consider: "your visa application will be denied if your school is unranked". Is this true or false? I'll answer for you: it is false. Consider the following statements you made: 1. These days we get to see just 1 out of 10 persons get visa approval applying to an unranked school. (That's 10%, is this a fact or opinion? I'd like to see the source of your stats and also, tell us the percentage of approved visas for applicants to "ranked" schools). 2. Even with all of these being said, you might still get your visa with this same school, [s]but what if the schools loses its Accreditation? What then happens to the time and money spent?[/s] (that is irrelevant at this point, sir. What if the school doesn't lose its accreditation?) I can reasonably infer even from your two statements that it is nonsense to say you can't get a visa with an unranked school. You can get it and that is my point. I don't wanna go into details forming arguments, she's a lawyer, she can form all that on her own. Her interview didn't end when the VO asked: "Why did you choose GGU?". It continued for a reason. I'm sorry you think "that is nonsense" is an insult. I didn't mean it in an aggressive way. My opinion remains unchanged. She can still get a visa with an unranked school. 3 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by sunshineluv5: 11:42pm On May 16, 2018 |
sunshineluv5:Any idea pls? |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by theamerican(f): 11:53pm On May 16, 2018 |
sunshineluv5: Who's more interested in the sponsoring? Who's in a better financial position to do the sponsoring? These are the questions you need to ask yourself. Both of them aren't immediate relatives so I don't think there's much difference regarding how strong your relationship to your sponsor is. Either one of them is fine. 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by exxy(m): 3:37am On May 17, 2018 |
mamuzoOMAH: Who be VC now for Ben, and which major u study ? |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by teedee223: 3:43am On May 17, 2018 |
Hello everyone, I'm a silent follower on this thread. Learnt a lot from here in preparing for my Visa interview. I had my interview on Tuesday, 8th of May, 2018 - 6:45 am batch. Went through 4 security checks before entering the interview hall. Did my fingerprint and document verification also. Joined the interview queue around 7:25 am ... Overhead other applicant's answers (some approved visa, others rejected) I had to stop focusing on them so as not to get too nervous. CGI directed me to booth 10 (around 7:45 am) - a man in his very late 30s Transcript below: VO: Good Morning, How're you doing today? ME: I'm very fine, and you? VO: I'm doing fine. VO: Pass me your passport and I-20 ME: (passed) VO: You're going for Masters. Where are you going for your Masters? ME: (didn't hear what he said) sorry, I didn't get that VO: Where are you going for your Masters? ME: Ooh... (my brain then kicked in) ... University of Illinois. Going for an MBA program VO: Which school did you finish from? ME: Obafemi Awolowo University VO: When did you finish school? ME: September 2014 VO: What did you study? ME: (.....) Engineering VO: What have you been doing since then? ME: Entrepreneurship. I co-founded a technology startup after school. We build Mobile apps, Web apps, VAS applications and general software solutions for businesses and to solve local problems. We have worked with ... (VO then cuts in) VO: ok ok ...tell me about a live service you've built that is currently being used. ME: Currently, we have a Location Based Service that helps ...(explanation was longer than this sha...I continued explaining the service till I saw the satisfactory expression on his face) VO: So how many staffs do you have? ME: 15 staffs (developers and product leads) VO: Are you married? ME: No VO: Kids? ME: No VO: How do you intend to fund your studies? (total of $60,000 for the first year - $40,000 tuition and $20,000 living expenses) ME: I have $40,000 in scholarship - $20,000 for the 1st year, and another $20,000 for the 2nd year. I also have $35,000 in student loan for the first year and $10,000 as personal savings VO: (checked through my I-20 to confirm the scholarship) Can I have the loan approval letter and your statement of account? ME: Sure. (passed them to him) VO: (spent about 1 minute reading the loan approval letter and about 3 minutes scrutinizing my personal statement of account) VO: I'll be approving your Visa now (He then issued the white paper) You can have your I-20 back. Make sure you keep it very well, you'll need it at the point of entry. Failure to produce it means you'll be sent back on the first flight to Nigeria (at that point, he smiled at me) ME: (smiled back) Thank you very much (left the hall around - 8:00am) Thanks to Nairaland and everyone that has shared their experiences so far... It gave me the confidence going for the interview. I made sure I reviewed all the transcripts here and tried to understand why they might have been denied or approved, then used the feedbacks to prepare my answers. Tips & Advice: 1. Try to go through all transcripts posted here...including the one uploaded to Dropbox (the very first post on page 1 of this thread) 2. We all have different cases to present and support for our visa to be approved. Try to look critically into your own case and ask yourself if it makes sense to you...Try to review your answers from a VO point of view... Ask yourself - "If I am the VO, will I approve the visa for this applicant based on his/her answers?" If not, then keep reiterating your answers till they make sense to you. Try to learn from other people's experience (transcripts) 3. Try to attend to the applications yourself (DS-160 form, paying for DS-160, Scheduling interview time etc) Look at it as a process you have to go through yourself, and you might have 1 or 2 things to learn in the process... I saw some people turned back because the agent they used filled the wrong application number while paying their DS-160 fee... 4. Create a checklist of all the documents you need (both required and supporting documents), and get them ready and printed at least 48 hours to your interview. This will prevent you from forgetting any document and give you more time to focus on your possible interview questions and answers 5. Create a possible list of all Questions they might ask (based on your own peculiar case) and provide best answers to them No need to lie in your answers... even if you will, make sure it makes sense, and you can prove them (just incase they ask) 6. Get there early enough (30 minutes before your set time is just OK) 7. You do not need your phone or smartwatch (except you have about 1,500 or 2,000 to give the security guys) 8. Get enough rest before the interview 9. Believe in yourself, talk confidently and of course, your body language is very important too (just be moderate with it) 10. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY & PRAY (you can ask friends and family to join you in prayers too) If you can FAST too... that'll be fine. Goodluck to future applicants. 43 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by whyqueu(m): 5:36am On May 17, 2018 |
theamerican: Fantastic, I think I said this also , the interview was going on well but her sponsor was not just strong enough to convince the VO ..Most of the time peepls here says the school bla bla bla , but in this forum we have seen VO give visa to a one building school because he can convince the VO .. Its about proper planning ! @ Mr sorelee ,I'm not also disputing the fact that you are also right but I think she should try again ..Honestly ,I see her getting the VIsa .. Well said Mr theamerican 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by banji001: 5:59am On May 17, 2018 |
Hello Everyone is the house, i tried retrieving my Application I.D and i don't know why it's not working, please am i doing anything wrong, please kindly put me through 1 Share
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 6:51am On May 17, 2018 |
banji001: From that pics. That is not how DS 160 application ID looks like. What you put there is just a combination of your surname and date of birth. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by RobertnHanzel: 6:59am On May 17, 2018 |
harthy007: I Think I spotted you yesterday. You had your glasses on and all. I could hear your conversation from where I stood. Congratulations by the way". Having read through this thread for about a week and seen all the reject stories, I say to myself "Nah, some of these transcripts are made up". I guess I was wrong judging from what I experienced yesterday. I could hear a lotta people speak from across the hall and I would just know that they would be rejected. (I would deny them myself if I were the VO). Preparation cannot be overemphasized. How can the VO ask "Why Software engineering" and you say "Cos I love the computer" VO: "what do you love about the computer? Guy:"I have seen that Nigeria has a lot of issues with Internet connection and software applications......" (I froze at this point) It's obvious lots of people just want "The Great Escape". I may be wrong here but I think about 60% of the rejects/denial are well deserved and self inflicted. Apart from you, all other F1 applicants ahead of me were denied yesterday (Including the lady that applied to GGU). I ain't leaving out the place of luck & God but in all, you gotta play the part. Most folks ain't doing that. It's obvious to tell. Congrats once again!!!! I should post my transcript too. 7 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by sunshineluv5: 7:06am On May 17, 2018 |
theamerican:both are willing thanks 4 d clarification. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by banji001: 7:12am On May 17, 2018 |
Ubah1: Yes that's true, i have checked through my admission pack all i tried to put there is my (SEVIS I.D) i thought it also stands for the application I.D, and it seems i'm just getting everything wrong, please i will be so happy if you could me through. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Gnen: 7:21am On May 17, 2018 |
harthy007:Congrats Martha 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by RobertnHanzel: 7:26am On May 17, 2018 |
banji001: Yea, the page is aking you to retrieve your application NOT your application ID. You need the ID to retrieve your application. When did you start filling the form? You can start filing a fresh one if you cant remember your ID. For subsequent applications, just copy your ID on your notepad, sticky notes or something.... Just be sure you have it somewhere. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 7:30am On May 17, 2018 |
banji001: You are getting it wrong. That retrieval option is meant for when you have already started filling the form and stopped half way. From your case, you are starting a fresh application, select your country from the drop down, fill the captcha and click on start an application. You will be given an application ID, save it and proceed from there |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by banji001: 7:36am On May 17, 2018 |
Ubah1: Yes i did make the correction already and am starting fresh again it bring up another file request
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by banji001: 7:39am On May 17, 2018 |
RobertnHanzel: Yes i did everything the way explain, it's just that they didn't generate the application I.D for me at the first place.. And if i tried to start a fresh it popping out as if i have done it before, would i need to change browser?? |
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