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Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 5:55pm On May 16, 2018 |
abdelrahman: Not if the wall is adorned with a special black stone that must be revered and worship. ![]() |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 6:32pm On May 16, 2018 |
abdelrahman:Of course we are different from paganism because we don't shed blood to appease our maker 2 Likes |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 6:51pm On May 16, 2018 |
asuustrike2009:blood of Jesus nko ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:07pm On May 16, 2018 |
Maamin:let me see the verse that allow worshipping of kaaba ![]() ![]()
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Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Preciouzword: 7:42pm On May 16, 2018 |
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Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:49pm On May 16, 2018 |
abdelrahman:The blood of Jesus was shed for humanity hence we pled the blood on daily basis to wipe us from our sins 1 Like |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:55pm On May 16, 2018 |
asuustrike2009:for what sins precisely? |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 9:41pm On May 16, 2018 |
abdelrahman: But yet you all face the kaaba 5 times a day. ![]() Meanwhile you can also show me the verse that describe how the Jews worship or should worship. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 9:45pm On May 16, 2018 |
Maamin:im not saying Jew worship wall na ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 9:51pm On May 16, 2018 |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 9:54pm On May 16, 2018 |
abdelrahman:Sin no specific one. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:26pm On May 16, 2018 |
MrPRevailer: I hope you don't forget Mathew 7:22. Get one thing clear about Islam, Islamic is not a religion of business. We don't invite others to Islam because of miracles or to guarantee them of this world materials as Christians do. Many people become Christians daily, and Christians also become Muslims too. Changing of people from one religion to the other doesn't guarantee they are on the way of God. You'll be an hypocrite if you claimed there's no supposed miracle in traditional religion too as it's in Christianity , except you haven't seen one. 1 Like |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:30pm On May 16, 2018 |
proudkafir:You are derailing the purpose of this thread. Kindly open another thread for those Ahaadith you quoted up there and tag me. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:34pm On May 16, 2018 |
deebrain: Even an high school student knows you didn't make sense there. And you didn't address the issue by the OP. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by deebrain(m): 11:51pm On May 16, 2018 |
iamgenius: Then the high school student better go the way of taking his high school education as sin (like boko haram) --since he even bolded it. I addressed the issues of the op topic as an opposition to it. The basis of the Christian faith is Jesus Christ. The Word. The Son Of God. And that's what you denounce. The Op listed few of the verses that oppose the divinity of Jesus Christ. It is childish to assume that Christians will accept this even when warned that "any spirit that does not confess the divinity of Jesus Christ is the spirit of Antichrist (Satan). 1 john 4 vs 1-3. Anything could speak to your prophet and pronounce itself as God (you don't expect Satan to call himself "Satan" if he wants a messenger or faithful instrument-- the name itself connotes evil and opposition). The check and guide for the Christian is NO MATTER HOW GLORIOUS AN ANGEL LOOKS LIKE WHEN HE CAME TO DELIVER A MESSAGE, DID IT ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS CHRIST AS THE SON OF GOD? And on a personal level as stated earlier, with your religion backed bloodletting,its better to burn in hell (if the Bible lied) than to take your terrorism truths. abeg. 2 Likes |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by proudkafir: 5:06am On May 17, 2018 |
iamgenius:Muslim denial strategy: condemn their own hadith that exposes the criminal and irrational behavior of their prophet. The hadith I posted has everything to do on why no rational person, without coercion, should embrace Islam. You can't make a man with a shady character a prophet. Read your own hadith and study the biography of Mohammed, sira rasool allahh, by ibn hisham and ibn ishaq. 4 Likes |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 8:53am On May 17, 2018 |
iamgenius: Forget about traditional religions. Why is your Islam so redundant when it comes to miracles and prophecies? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 9:01am On May 17, 2018 |
proudkafir: Don't mind them, they will be swift to call even their hadith and quranic verses not authentic or original when they want to propagate their lies in the name of religion. Al taqiyyah of the highest order. ![]() |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by proudkafir: 11:55am On May 17, 2018 |
Maamin:So pathetic that Muslims will classify their own hadith into authentic, weak and fabricated hadith (all in the same copy or hadith volume), and must need a tasfir to know what a verse in the Quran 'really' mean, and yet will come and tell us that the Bible is 'corrupt'. This is sheer stupidity and hypocrisy! 1 Like |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by edicied: 12:10pm On May 17, 2018 |
Dont forget about the 72 Virgins you also get i mean who doesn't want that? ![]() |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by MrPRevailer(m): 4:05pm On May 17, 2018 |
iamgenius: Stop relating worldly things with miracles. They are not related. Miracles are from God. Worldly things are from the world. Do you know of any imams that pray for blind people and crippled and they instantly receive healing? 1 Like |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Nobody: 4:48pm On May 17, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:Well said! So since there is dispute over the authenticity of Muhammad as a true prophet from the same God who spoke and made many Jews prophets, one can conclude that Muhammad is fake and ignore whatever he has to say or profess to have been inspired.Muhammad was born 570 c.e meaning the Bible has been completed and compiled hundreds of years before him, he was born in Saudi Arabia just like any other person born in other parts of the Earth during his time, he wasn't related to Israelites "Jacob's descendants" so he couldn't have known anything regarding their divine laws, if he said God chose him and start revealing some things to him fine what about others who claimed the same thing till today? there are many deities with different name throughout the Earth even in Mecca so what's the name of the God who sent him? Let's say he didn't fabricate his messages but why is his religion almost having the same ideology similar to the Roman Catholic Church that's popular in his days? Why is it that it's ONLY him who stand as a witness for his message(Quran)when the Bible has 40 different reputable witnesses? Even Jesus' story and ministry has four different witnesses? OK let's talk about the God of Israel the same that Muhammad claims to be representing,in God's laws before confirming an event there must be at least two to three witnesses! Deuteronomy 19:15 Moreover God said HIS covenant to save mankind will be established with Isaac (Abraham's second son) and the promise was later transferred to Jacob(Israel)adding that Ishmael (Muhammad's ancestor) and his generation shall become a terrorists.Genesis 16:11,12/17:18-21 Muhammad claimed he's the one Jesus called the Spirit of comfort (Ahmad) which is to come and comfort Jesus' fearful followers but Muhammad came after all these ones have gone! Jesus taught His own followers NEVER to lead by weapons no matter what happens but Muhammad was forced to take up weapons! Well i'm neither from Israel nor Saudi Arabia but regarding the case of Muhammad a real Christian who is fully competent and completely equipped to handle God's word can easily see all the flaws in the fabrication of that 6th century man called Muhammad! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Primesky(m): 10:59pm On May 17, 2018 |
How can Islam be the way, when the founder openly decleard that he doesn't know where he's going to? How can Islam be the way, when the founder asked Moslems to seek for the truth in the bible! Wouldn't it be foolishness then to live the source of the truth which is the bible, on which Christianity if founded, to now begin to follow a book of uncertainty or incomplete truth?. Why should anybody follow a way that at the end, you aren't sure where you're going just like prophet Mohammed. Rather than the way with a clear and specific end backed with evidence?. Buda of budism is dead and gone! Mohammed of Islam is dead and gone! Jesus Christ of Christianity died, resurrected and is alive and continues to live!. A fact authenticated by Islam's Koran! So why should anybody live that for an uncertain fellow?. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Salvation is in Him alone. Receive Him today!. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 6:16pm On May 18, 2018 |
Before you consider the following premises of
argument explained below, please bear in mind
that On the authority of Holy Qur'an;
1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet
of God (Qur'an19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth
(Qur'an21:91)
3. Muslims believe in the all the miracles
performed by Jesus during his earthly ministry
(Qur'an5:110)
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven
(Qur'an4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus'2nd coming toward
the end of the world (Qur'an43:57-61)
You may write anything you like to rubbish this
thread. BUT PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE YOU
PINPOINT WHICH OF THE PREMISES LISTED
BELOW IS WRONG AND KINDLY STATE THE
REASON.
Premise 1: As part of our concept about God; God
is naturally known to ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH
just like God is naturally known to ALWAYS
BLESS AN INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL.
Premise 2: Therefore, for any reason whatsoever,
it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO SPEAK A LIE just
like it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO CURSE AN
INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL.
Premise 3: Consequently, if there is a religious
faith which proclaims that GOD MUST SPEAK A
LIE at a particular period of time in order to
execute a program designed by God Himself, then
that religious faith must be false.
Premise 4: Similarly, if there is religious faith
which proclaims that GOD MUST CURSE AN
INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL at a particular
period of time in order to execute a program
designed by God Himself, then that religious faith
must also be false.
Premise 5: But Christianity is a religious faith
which proclaim that AN INNOCENT AND
RIGHTEOUS SOUL (i:e Jesus Christ) MUST BE
PUT UNDER THE CURSE OF GOD ( see
Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) on the cross
at Calvary before God can execute His program
designed to forgive and save the sinners.
Premise 6: Therefore, Christianity must be false.
God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to
suffer (i:e TO BE PHYSICALLY CONDEMNED) for
one reason or the other. But God would never
"curse" ( i:e SPIRITUALLY CONDEMN) an
innocent and righteous soul for any reason
whatsoever. Therefore, there is need for God to
send another prophet to remove this negative and
bad picture of God from the minds of the general
humanity. This is one of the many reasons why
Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God
removed this negative and bad impression from
the minds of the people by declaring that, in a
miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the
cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse
of God" associated with any one that is crucified
and died on a cross according to the Jewish law
(Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was
removed from the head of our beloved and
innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be
upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer
of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane
when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to
be taken away from him in THREE consecutive
times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44.ln
fact, Bible confirmed that this very prayer of
Jesus was answered by God :During the day of
Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and
petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one
who could save him from death, and he was
heard because of his reverent submission
(Hebrew 5:7NIV).If this prayer of Jesus was only
heard but not answered by God as some
Christians use to claim, then the phrase “because
of his reverent submission” in the verse quoted
above would no longer have any reasonable
meaning. In fact, the King James Version of the
Bible ends this verse with “and was heard in that
he feared (Hebrew 5:7KJV).Of course, what Jesus
feared was death on the cross. Hence, if Jesus
was heard in that he feared, this implies that he
escaped death on the cross. Therefore, an illogical
and contradictory concept of "a merciful God who
could not see any other way of forgiving those
who sincerely believe in Him except to curse an
innocent and righteous soul on the cross at
Calvary" is completely far away from the truth.
The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious
book on earth that remove this negative and bad
impression about God from the minds of the
general humanity is a very great indicator that the
book could never have come from no other person
except God Himself. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 7:34pm On May 18, 2018 |
Before you consider the following premises of
argument explained below, please bear in mind
that On the authority of Holy Qur'an;
1. Muslims believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet
of God (Qur'an19:30).
2. Muslims believe in Jesus miraculous birth
(Qur'an21:91)
3. Muslims believe in the all the miracles
performed by Jesus during his earthly ministry
(Qur'an5:110)
4. Muslims believe in Jesus ascension to heaven
(Qur'an4:158)
5. Muslims believe in Jesus'2nd coming toward
the end of the world (Qur'an43:57-61)
You may write anything you like to rubbish this
thread. BUT PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE YOU
PINPOINT WHICH OF THE PREMISES LISTED
BELOW IS WRONG AND KINDLY STATE THE
REASON.
Premise 1: As part of our concept about God; God
is naturally known to ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH
just like God is naturally known to ALWAYS
BLESS AN INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL.
Premise 2: Therefore, for any reason whatsoever,
it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO SPEAK A LIE just
like it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO CURSE AN
INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL.
Premise 3: Consequently, if there is a religious
faith which proclaims that GOD MUST SPEAK A
LIE at a particular period of time in order to
execute a program designed by God Himself, then
that religious faith must be false.
Premise 4: Similarly, if there is religious faith
which proclaims that GOD MUST CURSE AN
INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL at a particular
period of time in order to execute a program
designed by God Himself, then that religious faith
must also be false.
Premise 5: But Christianity is a religious faith
which proclaim that AN INNOCENT AND
RIGHTEOUS SOUL (i:e Jesus Christ) MUST BE
PUT UNDER THE CURSE OF GOD ( see
Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) on the cross
at Calvary before God can execute His program
designed to forgive and save the sinners.
Premise 6: Therefore, Christianity must be false.
God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to
suffer (i:e TO BE PHYSICALLY CONDEMNED) for
one reason or the other. But God would never
"curse" ( i:e SPIRITUALLY CONDEMN) an
innocent and righteous soul for any reason
whatsoever. Therefore, there is need for God to
send another prophet to remove this negative and
bad picture of God from the minds of the general
humanity. This is one of the many reasons why
Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God
removed this negative and bad impression from
the minds of the people by declaring that, in a
miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the
cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse
of God" associated with any one that is crucified
and died on a cross according to the Jewish law
(Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) was
removed from the head of our beloved and
innocent prophet called Jesus Christ (peace be
upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer
of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane
when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to
be taken away from him in THREE consecutive
times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44.ln
fact, Bible confirmed that this very prayer of
Jesus was answered by God :During the day of
Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and
petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one
who could save him from death, and he was
heard because of his reverent submission
(Hebrew 5:7NIV).If this prayer of Jesus was only
heard but not answered by God as some
Christians use to claim, then the phrase “because
of his reverent submission” in the verse quoted
above would no longer have any reasonable
meaning. In fact, the King James Version of the
Bible ends this verse with “and was heard in that
he feared (Hebrew 5:7KJV).Of course, what Jesus
feared was death on the cross. Hence, if Jesus
was heard in that he feared, this implies that he
escaped death on the cross. Therefore, an illogical
and contradictory concept of "a merciful God who
could not see any other way of forgiving those
who sincerely believe in Him except to curse an
innocent and righteous soul on the cross at
Calvary" is completely far away from the truth.
The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious
book on earth that remove this negative and bad
impression about God from the minds of the
general humanity is a very great indicator that the
book could never have come from no other person
except God Himself. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by enilove(m): 7:48pm On May 18, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22: YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SPIRUTUAL THINGS. A CURSE GOES INTO THE BLOOD AND CAN ONLY BE REMOVED BY A PURE AND BLESSED BLOOD. THE CURSE ADAM AND EVE RECEIVED IN THE GARDEN IS UPON EVERY MAN BORN OF A WOMAN THROUGH SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. Genesis 2:17 KJV But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 3:19 KJV In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art , and unto dust shalt thou return. THAT IS WHY NO MAN CAN LIVE FOREVER WITHOUT ACCEPTING THE SACRIFICE OF THE DEATH OF JESUS ON THE CROSS. THAT IS A PLAIN TRUTH. THE DEVIL WANTS TO TAKE YOU TO HELL , IF YOU REMAIN A MUSLIM. ISLAM IS NOT OF GOD IT IS FROM THE DEVIL . 2 Likes |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Originakalokalo(m): 9:00pm On May 18, 2018 |
@ abdulgafar22, Those things you said Muslims believe won't save you.... If you don't believe the died for your sins and claim his blood for the cleansing of your sins then You will have to pay for your sins by yourself That is condemnation ...... Sinner in the hand of an angry Almighty God.... God will open your eyes in Jesus name. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by DeSepiero(m): 10:09pm On May 18, 2018 |
iamgenius: If God could allow a 'great liar' to deceive his new creations in the beginning and ruin the paradise, and not punish this liar up till now, then he could also allow a great liar to impersonate him with Koran. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by Maamin(m): 11:31pm On May 18, 2018 |
DeSepiero: Gbam! @Abdulgafar22 The problem with you Muslims is always trying to define what God can do and what he can not do. Is that how little you conceive the almighty God in your hearts? Muhammed impersonating with quran is not a new thing. Jesus said "many will come in my name take heed..." "he also said there are many false prophets already in the world". we are to test all spirit that comes our way to know which is from God and truth, in which your prophet failed the test. Stop trying too hard to make credible what is known to be false. |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by sambaki: 12:37am On May 19, 2018 |
Maamin: So I present a challenge to you and everyone on this forum Whoever is lying about the divinity of jesus and the prophecy of muhammad then let the curse of the almighty God fall upon such persons Is that fair? |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by enilove(m): 8:13am On May 19, 2018 |
sambaki: Whether you say it or not , anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as his or her saviour is cursed and will die a second death in the lake of fire. Muhammad is taking all Muslims to hell , he was not a good man but an evil man . |
Re: Why All Christians Must Embrace Islam by sambaki: 8:19am On May 19, 2018 |
enilove: So I take it you're fearful of the challenge Noted |
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