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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:43pm On May 18, 2018 |
pamcode: Nzonzi has had a good season while Rabiot because of his contract issue with PSG chopped bench in some games |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 5:45pm On May 18, 2018 |
Leyqute:Smallings is the most shocking, he's the best English centre back in the pL and stones wey never play upto 10games dis 2018 was picked ahead of him, not to talk of jones that has been injured. i feel sorry for Martial sha, lemar and dembele are not even better stat wise, dembele na disappointment, lemar had a terrible season with monaco, mendy wey the injury since seff was picked, even if we didn't sign sanchez and martial was 1st choice, him for no still smell plane. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 6:06pm On May 18, 2018 |
Smalling the best English CB in the premier league? O lawd have mercy!!!! What manner of trash talking is this?. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 6:13pm On May 18, 2018 |
elrony:I don't think he like the both of them. My biggest surprise was taking matuidi instead of rabiot That Lemar useless fah, a younger version of walcott |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 6:24pm On May 18, 2018 |
weedtaker: WTF? Obviously southgate could not be scammed as you have been by smalling! 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:26pm On May 18, 2018 |
weedtaker: This man doesn't smoke weed, I'm convinced he smokes cow dung and lettuce leaves. 15 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:08pm On May 18, 2018 |
sod09: Make we even see wetin dem go play na. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:14pm On May 18, 2018 |
Weed my man! No mind them jare Maduman ni bobo colouring yi oh. Cow dung? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iheanyi40(m): 8:25pm On May 18, 2018 |
Vanquay:wtf 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:37pm On May 18, 2018 |
funlord:so which of the English CB has been better than smalling in the PL dis season? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 8:40pm On May 18, 2018 |
weedtaker: Smalling has been the best of a bad bunch. They're all shyt. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:42pm On May 18, 2018 |
MRTA7:Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:53pm On May 18, 2018 |
weedtaker: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:58pm On May 18, 2018 |
Martial go leave, Sanchez don old and go soon weak. No right winger or plan to buy one. We enter market for another panic buy. I wonder if this club and board members have goals and objectives sef. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 9:00pm On May 18, 2018 |
sinizia:who's the best English CB in the league dis season?, follow follow, na deliverance you need ekpa. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 9:01pm On May 18, 2018 |
weedtaker: I've not really followed England's key players in defense but southgate actually pointed out the same reasons that the fans and jose all have for getting rid of him this summer... Smalling is technically limited, slow, is not brave, can't really command his area and injects panic into those around him in dee Newcastle game at st James park? Kompanys goal against city? Sevilla kicking us out of europe due to school boy defending by him once again? Make I continue? Smallings time at united as a starter have come to an end...just watch what will happen this summer.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:09pm On May 18, 2018 |
I think the issue is the use of the word "best" they're all shit so using best to separate Smalling is disingenuous. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 9:25pm On May 18, 2018 |
funlord:[quote author=MRTA7] Smalling has been the best of a bad bunch. They're all shyt. but southgate actually pointed out the same reasons that the fans and jose all have for getting rid of him this summerSouthgate na ode abeg, the idiot carry 6full backs go world cup, who told you jose wants to get rid of smalling? he's been United's most consistent CB dis season Ffs, you can fault his ball playing abilities but not his defensive ones, not many in the PL are as good defensively as smalling, you can bring out the stats, man no de run. technically limited yes, but so are many CB's, smalling slow? are you kidding me? can't command his area?? and not brave?? mehn... Newcastle game at st James park?the whole team were terrible in that game. Kompanys goal against city?scored the winning goal Sevilla kicking us out of europe due to school boy defending by him once again? Make I continue?erib bailly was more disappointing and so were the whole team. Smallings time at united as a starter have come to an end...just watch what will happen this summer....na here we the. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 10:02pm On May 18, 2018 |
To be honest, Martial ain't helping himself either. Deschamps made it clear he picks Dembele, Fekir, Thauvin and Mbappe ahead of him because they can play multiple Positions. Martial should develop his Skills, he shouldn't limit himself to a left Winger. He should be able to play multiple Positions like Mbappe. Even Nani was a Joy to watch on either Wings. Martial is talented, but kinda lazy to develop himself into a world class Player. Ronaldo wasn't made by any Manager, he made himself what he is Today with dedication, commitment and enthusiasm for the Game. Martial can learn from Ronaldo, makes him is Mentor and moulds himself to become another Ronaldo for United. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 10:18pm On May 18, 2018 |
Oasis007: I 100% agree with this. Its why I'm not going to put all the blame on Mourinho ( even though he deserves a little) 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 10:29pm On May 18, 2018 |
elrony: Una don dey select pipu wen una dey allow post inside different threads!? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:57pm On May 18, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Talk about Tolisso |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:03pm On May 18, 2018 |
Oasis007:What multiple position can Dembele, Lemar and Fekir play? Who played as CF most times when LVG coached Manchester United? Martial... So,if you want to talk multiple positions, Martial can play LWF and CF... Dembele can only play LWF or RWF Lemar is more a LW not seen him play from the right. Fekir plays in the hole or RWF Thuavin plays either wing. Only Mbappe can play LWF, CF and RWF and deliver... So your assertion is wrong... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:06pm On May 18, 2018 |
Smalling played more? Yes... Best English CB? No... Maguire is light years ahead of Smalling. And lest we forget, he was dropped because he is shaky on the ball (Pep philosophy influencing Southgate). Maguire, Stones, Jones and Cahill are very comfortable on the ball unlike Smalling. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:20pm On May 18, 2018 |
patrickmuf: This is laughable. he's just another overrated English defender. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by monerozi5590: 11:24pm On May 18, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Is that it?.. What about Dembele?. Didn't he chop bench so many times? But he was fucking selected. Dembele doesn't deserve to go the World Cup because he didn't play anything this season. Rabiot is better than NZonzi, Tolisso and Matuidi by miles. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:07am On May 19, 2018 |
MRTA7:Maguire? Have you watched him? He might not be world class but don't jump out of the context, I said when compared to Smalling... Maguire is better than Smalling. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:09am On May 19, 2018 |
Rabiot is a starter for PSG, he deserved to be called up ahead of Tolisso and Maui did and probably Nzonzi who has been very good for Sevilla. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:10am On May 19, 2018 |
Mourinho struggling to recreate team of
'proper men' he had at Chelsea
May 18, 2018 23:00:43 Main
The Portuguese has so far been unable to rally his squad around
him as he was able to at Stamford Bridge, and United are paying
for the disconnect
Manchester United’s inconsistencies this season have made
them incredibly hard to judge.
They beat every team in the Premier League yet also lost to all
three promoted sides. They registered a first top-two finish in
five years, yet were a distant 19 points adrift of champions
Manchester City. And despite the fact they face Chelsea in
Saturday’s FA Cup final, their humbling Champions League exit
to Sevilla is likely to remain the most memorable moment of
their campaign whether they win or lose at Wembley.
One thing that there seems little disagreement on is the assertion
that this United side still does not have the hallmarks of a true
Jose Mourinho outfit. Two years into his regime at Old Trafford,
there remains a transitional feel around his squad. If anything,
there are more reminders of his post-2010 failures at Real Madrid
and Chelsea than there are of his successes at Inter and in his
first Stamford Bridge stint.
While he struggles to find the fire inside the likes of the talented
Anthony Martial and Luke Shaw, he has been able to draw
crucial, if fleeting, interventions out of unfancied figures such as
Marouane Fellaini and Scott McTominay.
When compared to the machine he built at Chelsea between
2004 and 2007, the current United squad simply does not
match up. At the Bridge, Mourinho had warriors in John Terry,
Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba, and around them he formed
an intimidating unit. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:12am On May 19, 2018 |
The Blues played high-percentage, effective football, with the
mental toughness shown on the pitch being a mirror image of
what we found in their manager. He was able to get them doing
all the one-per-cent work week after week and gained the
benefits in leading Chelsea to consecutive league titles in his first
two seasons.
“We call him daddy,” revealed Drogba to the Guardian. “I don’t
know about all of us but he did a lot of things for me during that
moment where I had a lot of critics. He was supporting me and
helping me.”
That siege mentality, the all-for-one, one-for-all approach, had
already been made famous by Sir Alex Ferguson at United, but
Mourinho used a more intense variation in order to ensure that
players who had bundles of potential were able to deliver their
best for the Chelsea cause.
“Jose said that to me that I was the best in the world,” Lampard
would explain years later. “I certainly didn’t believe it at the time
and I don’t know how much he did – but it was great man
management.
“I took it at face value and thought: ‘If my manager I’m working
for is saying that, I’m going to have to show him that he’s right’.
“I didn’t want to be that player who let him down. I was quite
conscientious and wanted to make him happy. He managed to
give me confidence that I could do it and I loved going into
work.”
So far, Mourinho hasn’t been able to engender such unstinting
support from his United troops. There so often appears to be a
disconnect between what he wants from his team and what he
is getting. Romelu Lukaku has largely delivered in attack and
Nemanja Matic has had an impact in midfield, but even Paul
Pogba, who has scored 11 goals and added 14 assists in his 60
league appearances since returning to the club, has had public
difficulties with the manager in 2018.
Instead it is the players who do not carry a big name and huge
expectation who have received a lot of public praise from the
manager. Fellaini has been trusted in big moments when
Mourinho has despaired of the lack of effective outlets in his
attacking midfield line, and the boss has made it clear he wants
the Belgian for the longer term despite his contract expiring. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:14am On May 19, 2018 |
Elsewhere McTominay was the man he turned to to keep Ever Banega quiet in Seville and hold Eden Hazard’s reins when United beat Chelsea at Old Trafford. It is also the young Scot who Mourinho made a point of handing a ‘Manager’s Player of the Year’ award to in light of his desire to do anything and everything the Portuguese asked of him. Since Mourinho has been unable to rally his senior players around him in the way he did at Chelsea, he has held up McTominay as the example of work-rate and professionalism. It also helps that the midfielder has shot up to around 6’5” in the last few years, helping him to become a far more imposing figure who can attempt to carry himself in the same way some of his manager’s most successful alumni have in the past. Others to have featured heavily include Ashley Young, who has got his head down and worked hard in adapting to a deeper role under Mourinho and earned a place in the England World Cup squad off the back of it. Jesse Lingard, too, has reacted positively to his manager’s teachings and has become a club and international regular as a result. Yet for every potential warrior and selfless team player he sees in his United squad, he sees somebody else who isn’t given him what he needs. While Martial, Shaw and Marcus Rashford take increasingly lengthy spells to adapt to the Mourinho way, the boss is giving them little leeway until they show they’re meeting his standards. Shaw was one of the first to draw his ire just five games into his first league campaign, identifying him as the guilty party in Watford’s second goal in a 3-1 reverse. Just a few weeks later, Chris Smalling joined the left-back on the naughty step when both ruled themselves out of the trip to Swansea through injury. “There is a difference between the brave, who want to play at any cost, and the ones for whom a little pain can make a difference,” said Mourinho. “If I were to speak with the many great football people of this team, they will say they played many times without being 100%. “We have players on the pitch with problems. In every sport, how many times do you play and you’re not 100%?” Latterly he has asked Martial to bring out the Mourinho in himself in order to win favour. “Is Anthony player with great potential? Yes. Can he play for success with me? Yes. But he needs to give things for me that I like.” And that is something Mourinho has continued to struggle with throughout his Old Trafford reign. Whereas at Chelsea and Inter he found players willing to buy into everything, at United the expectations of established internationals have not been on Jose’s wavelength. A manager who demands tough personalities is yet to be convinced that his squad has enough of them. His choice of words when hailing the retiring Michael Carrick last week was noticeable. “The most important quality is to be a man. M-A-N. Capitals. He is a proper man,” said Mourinho. “Football is not full of them. And not just football; society is not full of them. When you find one of them, you have to value and you have to keep.” It is clear when he says that that he believes his squad to be short on ‘proper men’ too. In fact, it is evident in how he talks and acts around his players that he remains unconvinced by them. The planets have not aligned for him in Manchester as they did in west London. “Jose could not have come in at a better time,” his former Chelsea charge Joe Cole once claimed to the Sun. “It was the perfect team for him at that stage of his career. “He had 20 hungry lions desperate to win things. It was the easiest team to manage. He did not have big egos, we all wanted to play football and we all went out together.” As he faces up to Antonio Conte’s current Chelsea side on Saturday, one thing Mourinho knows is that he has still only just started in getting Manchester United to play in his vision. The big, powerful machine that was his Blues squad for so long is still far from being replicated in the north west. There is a lack of those hungry lions of whom Cole speaks. “Mentally and psychologically, he had us from day one. We bought into whatever he was going to deliver that day,” John Terry told Sky Sports of Mourinho. "I would give everything for him. I would leave that pitch in a coffin for him and every player felt the same.” The challenge now is for ‘The Special One’ to coax a similar response from a squad most of whom he has yet to convince. It just so happens it is the club at which he did his greatest work who seek to send him into the summer with another headache.[b]Elsewhere McTominay was the man he turned to to keep Ever Banega quiet in Seville and hold Eden Hazard’s reins when United beat Chelsea at Old Trafford. It is also the young Scot who Mourinho made a point of handing a ‘Manager’s Player of the Year’ award to in light of his desire to do anything and everything the Portuguese asked of him. Since Mourinho has been unable to rally his senior players around him in the way he did at Chelsea, he has held up McTominay as the example of work-rate and professionalism. It also helps that the midfielder has shot up to around 6’5” in the last few years, helping him to become a far more imposing figure who can attempt to carry himself in the same way some of his manager’s most successful alumni have in the past. Others to have featured heavily include Ashley Young, who has got his head down and worked hard in adapting to a deeper role under Mourinho and earned a place in the England World Cup squad off the back of it. Jesse Lingard, too, has reacted positively to his manager’s teachings and has become a club and international regular as a result. Yet for every potential warrior and selfless team player he sees in his United squad, he sees somebody else who isn’t given him what he needs. While Martial, Shaw and Marcus Rashford take increasingly lengthy spells to adapt to the Mourinho way, the boss is giving them little leeway until they show they’re meeting his standards. Shaw was one of the first to draw his ire just five games into his first league campaign, identifying him as the guilty party in Watford’s second goal in a 3-1 reverse. Just a few weeks later, Chris Smalling joined the left-back on the naughty step when both ruled themselves out of the trip to Swansea through injury. “There is a difference between the brave, who want to play at any cost, and the ones for whom a little pain can make a difference,” said Mourinho. “If I were to speak with the many great football people of this team, they will say they played many times without being 100%. “We have players on the pitch with problems. In every sport, how many times do you play and you’re not 100%?” Latterly he has asked Martial to bring out the Mourinho in himself in order to win favour. “Is Anthony player with great potential? Yes. Can he play for success with me? Yes. But he needs to give things for me that I like.” And that is something Mourinho has continued to struggle with throughout his Old Trafford reign. Whereas at Chelsea and Inter he found players willing to buy into everything, at United the expectations of established internationals have not been on Jose’s wavelength. A manager who demands tough personalities is yet to be convinced that his squad has enough of them. His choice of words when hailing the retiring Michael Carrick last week was noticeable. “The most important quality is to be a man. M-A-N. Capitals. He is a proper man,” said Mourinho. “Football is not full of them. And not just football; society is not full of them. When you find one of them, you have to value and you have to keep.” It is clear when he says that that he believes his squad to be short on ‘proper men’ too. In fact, it is evident in how he talks and acts around his players that he remains unconvinced by them. The planets have not aligned for him in Manchester as they did in west London. “Jose could not have come in at a better time,” his former Chelsea charge Joe Cole once claimed to the Sun. “It was the perfect team for him at that stage of his career. “He had 20 hungry lions desperate to win things. It was the easiest team to manage. He did not have big egos, we all wanted to play football and we all went out together.” As he faces up to Antonio Conte’s current Chelsea side on Saturday, one thing Mourinho knows is that he has still only just started in getting Manchester United to play in his vision. The big, powerful machine that was his Blues squad for so long is still far from being replicated in the north west. There is a lack of those hungry lions of whom Cole speaks. “Mentally and psychologically, he had us from day one. We bought into whatever he was going to deliver that day,” John Terry told Sky Sports of Mourinho. "I would give everything for him. I would leave that pitch in a coffin for him and every player felt the same.” The challenge now is for ‘The Special One’ to coax a similar response from a squad most of whom he has yet to convince. It just so happens it is the club at which he did his greatest work who seek to send him into the summer with another headache.[/b]Elsewhere McTominay was the man he turned to to keep Ever Banega quiet in Seville and hold Eden Hazard’s reins when United beat Chelsea at Old Trafford. It is also the young Scot who Mourinho made a point of handing a ‘Manager’s Player of the Year’ award to in light of his desire to do anything and everything the Portuguese asked of him. Since Mourinho has been unable to rally his senior players around him in the way he did at Chelsea, he has held up McTominay as the example of work-rate and professionalism. It also helps that the midfielder has shot up to around 6’5” in the last few years, helping him to become a far more imposing figure who can attempt to carry himself in the same way some of his manager’s most successful alumni have in the past. Others to have featured heavily include Ashley Young, who has got his head down and worked hard in adapting to a deeper role under Mourinho and earned a place in the England World Cup squad off the back of it. Jesse Lingard, too, has reacted positively to his manager’s teachings and has become a club and international regular as a result. Yet for every potential warrior and selfless team player he sees in his United squad, he sees somebody else who isn’t given him what he needs. While Martial, Shaw and Marcus Rashford take increasingly lengthy spells to adapt to the Mourinho way, the boss is giving them little leeway until they show they’re meeting his standards. Shaw was one of the first to draw his ire just five games into his first league campaign, identifying him as the guilty party in Watford’s second goal in a 3-1 reverse. Just a few weeks later, Chris Smalling joined the left-back on the naughty step when both ruled themselves out of the trip to Swansea through injury. “There is a difference between the brave, who want to play at any cost, and the ones for whom a little pain can make a difference,” said Mourinho. “If I were to speak with the many great football people of this team, they will say they played many times without being 100%. “We have players on the pitch with problems. In every sport, how many times do you play and you’re not 100%?” Latterly he has asked Martial to bring out the Mourinho in himself in order to win favour. “Is Anthony player with great potential? Yes. Can he play for success with me? Yes. But he needs to give things for me that I like.” And that is something Mourinho has continued to struggle with throughout his Old Trafford reign. Whereas at Chelsea and Inter he found players willing to buy into everything, at United the expectations of established internationals have not been on Jose’s wavelength. A manager who demands tough personalities is yet to be convinced that his squad has enough of them. His choice of words when hailing the retiring Michael Carrick last week was noticeable. “The most important quality is to be a man. M-A-N. Capitals. He is a proper man,” said Mourinho. “Football is not full of them. And not just football; society is not full of them. When you find one of them, you have to value and you have to keep.” It is clear when he says that that he believes his squad to be short on ‘proper men’ too. In fact, it is evident in how he talks and acts around his players that he remains unconvinced by them. The planets have not aligned for him in Manchester as they did in west London. “Jose could not have come in at a better time,” his former Chelsea charge Joe Cole once claimed to the Sun. “It was the perfect team for him at that stage of his career. “He had 20 hungry lions desperate to win things. It was the easiest team to manage. He did not have big egos, we all wanted to play football and we all went out together.” As he faces up to Antonio Conte’s current Chelsea side on Saturday, one thing Mourinho knows is that he has still only just started in getting Manchester United to play in his vision. The big, powerful machine that was his Blues squad for so long is still far from being replicated in the north west. There is a lack of those hungry lions of whom Cole speaks. “Mentally and psychologically, he had us from day one. We bought into whatever he was going to deliver that day,” John Terry told Sky Sports of Mourinho. "I would give everything for him. I would leave that pitch in a coffin for him and every player felt the same.” The challenge now is for ‘The Special One’ to coax a similar response from a squad most of whom he has yet to convince. It just so happens it is the club at which he did his greatest work who seek to send him into the summer with another headache. |
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