weedtaker:
^^^ but stones is a rubbish defender, its not like england are going there to dominate and blow teams off the park, shey na that their weak ass midfield wan dominate possession? i go like see how stones wan win header for corner kick against red rom and afro man. or how he'll defend against eden hazard, na here we de.

bros let us nt talk much.she world cup is around d corner . like u said let me c how McGuire,stones can defend against world class players with a very a weak midfield.world cup Na next month.i keep my fingers crossed

IF Smalling is not shaky on the ball at his feet, he’d be the first CB on Southgate mind. I hate his passing deficiency with a passion.

weedtaker:
maguire better than smalling? Wtf? He's the worst and the most overrated of the bunch. Fvcking wannabe ball playing CB.
And when does been comfortable on the ball makes a better Cb? Ffs smalling is a guaranteed starter under one of the GREATEST defensive manager in world football.

most of them are not even that good on the ball, only stones is light years ahead of smalling in ball playing. Its not like smalling can't pass to his team mates or something..

Smalling dey spoil match. It's not just about misplacing a few passes but about disrupting the flow and rhythm of a team.

Smalling always passes the ball very slow and behind the player whereas a good defender should pass fast and in front of the player so he can take it in his stride. Smalling will pass the ball one step behind you so you have to stop your forward momentum and take a step back to collect the ball. This disrupts the build-up of a team immensely and also allows the opposition to stay in shape without being disrupted at all.

engrelvis:
u r quite correct on intelligence been added to aggression but overall I think smalling is better dan McGuire .how many goals did we concede dis yr compare to liciester?

who is the current Manchester United Player of the Year?

That might give you a clue as to why you've conceded fewer goals than leicester

weedtaker:
^^^ but stones is a rubbish defender, its not like england are going there to dominate and blow teams off the park, shey na that their weak ass midfield wan dominate possession? i go like see how stones wan win header for corner kick against red rom and afro man. or how he'll defend against eden hazard, na here we de.

engrelvis:
bros let us nt talk much.she world cup is around d corner . like u said let me c how McGuire,stones can defend against world class players with a very a weak midfield.world cup Na next month.i keep my fingers crossed

You guys are not getting it. See, everyone knows England sucks at tournaments no matter who they put out there. Even the so-called "golden generation" of England achieved nothing. This is the normal England we're used to. But Southgate is trying to approach the tournament from another angle, which I think is brave. Here are the defenders for the last WC:

Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

These defenders which Smalling was among are more of brawns than brains. They are your typical traditional defenders. What Southgate is trying to do this time around is to go for intelligence over brawn; he wants defenders that can pass comfortably from the back and initiate attacks. Southgate even tried the 3-man defence set-up in one of the friendlies, it shows a coach that wants to deviate from the norm since the norm hasn't worked. It might end up being a wrong call, but it's one worthy of giving a chance.

The key to his plans working though, is the midfield. If the midfield engine works perfectly, then other parts of the machine will work well. The wrong call I think Southgate has made so far is not picking Jonjo Shelvey.

patrickmuf:

Bar Mbappe or Dembele when he is on form, none of the other guys picked ahead of Martial can lace his boots.
On that left wing, I will start Mbappe with Martial as my sub and not Lemar...

In the absence of Payet, Lemar is the only set piece specialist left and I will find a way to play him in the 1st 11 by force.

I only see 2 strikers in the squad and cannot understand why Martial has not been taken as the 3rd striker/back-up winger.

I don't understand Thauvins inclusion at all.

That may be Deschamps showing his Marseille bias.

Smalling na defender abi footballer? Yeye dey smell

engrelvis:
u r quite correct on intelligence been added to aggression but overall I think smalling is better dan McGuire. how many goals did we concede dis yr compare to liciester? Remember smalling was practically involve in almost all our matches. maybe in few years McGuire will b better.is d calmness he n stones exhibit when holding ball dat makes people feel dey r better.d great Vincent company is nt dat calm when with d ball but he is a good defender.southgate nt picking him doesn't means he is nt good.every coach v different ideology .it might just mean smalling doesn't fit in . simple .another coach might c things differently n makes smalling his top CB

Bro, we're past the "United defenders are the best" stage about a week ago. Go to few pages back and see how that fictitious belief has been destroyed. I don't have strength to start digging up past posts to show you the miraculous works of DDG. But, I'll leave you with this fact sha: Watford have conceded less shots than us. Yes, you read it right. Despite the fable about our good defensive set-up, we've allowed oppositions take more shots than fuckîng Watford. Na DDG dey save us.

sinizia:


Well, Southgate wants CBs that can play out from the back. In the past that former England coaches have gone for defenders that "clear" the ball rather than "play" them, have England excelled in any of the tournaments? A change in tactics might do the trick or build a foundation that can lead to future success. No-one knows for sure if his choices might work, but then if he doesn't give it a trial we'd never know.

It ain't even about Tiki-taka, Smalling passes are mostly sideways, to the nearest defender, he's not confident on the ball like Bailly. Defenders like Stones are confident with ball even under pressure. They help orchestrate attack from the back and that's what Southgate wants. Before Stones' injury, there's a time he's amongst the top 5 accurate passers in the first-half of the EPL this past season.

You are definitely on Point Bro. Smalling is an established Fool when it comes to Ball Possession.

He's kinda frustrating to watch at times. How I wish Jones can stay fit, or Lindelof can sharply improve on his defensive Deficiencies.

The first Player I want out of United is Smalling, follow by Darmian. Both can even leave for free if the Decision is mine to take.

Ibime:


In the absence of Payet, Lemar is the only set piece specialist left and I will find a way to play him in the 1st 11 by force.

I only see 2 strikers in the squad and cannot understand why Martial has not been taken as the 3rd striker/back-up winger.

I don't understand Thauvins inclusion at all.

That may be Deschamps showing his Marseille bias.

Deschamps was highly biased in his selection. Despite the squad depth of France, he got many selections wrong.

Oasis007:




You are definitely on Point Bro. Smalling is an established Fool when it comes to Ball Possession.

He's kinda frustrating to watch at times. How I wish Jones can stay fit, or Lindelof can sharply improve on his defensive Deficiencies.

The first Player I want out of United is Smalling, follow by Darmian. Both can even leave for free if the Decision is mine to take.

What Smalling has over our other CBs is his ability to stay fit. If we can have Bailly and Jones fit for 99% of next season's matches, we just need another top CB and Smalling can be sold with cowries like Pietrorico once suggested. Unfortunately, Jones and Bailly are injury prone and Lindeolf is worse than Smalling, at least for now.

Speaking of Pietrorico, what happened to that guy? Is he writing the never-ending MBBS as well?

Ibime:


In the absence of Payet, Lemar is the only set piece specialist left and I will find a way to play him in the 1st 11 by force.

I only see 2 strikers in the squad and cannot understand why Martial has not been taken as the 3rd striker/back-up winger.

I don't understand Thauvins inclusion at all.

That may be Deschamps showing his Marseille bias.

With Giroud, Varane and Umtiti, Pogba might be free to take the set pieces.

sinizia:


What Smalling has over our other CBs is his ability to stay fit. If we can have Bailly and Jones fit for 99% of next season's matches, we just need another top CB and Smalling can be sold with cowries like Pietrorico once suggested. Unfortunately, Jones and Bailly are injury prone and Lindeolf is worse than Smalling, at least for now.

Speaking of Pietrorico, what happened to that guy? Is he writing the never-ending MBBS as well?

Seems he's kinda busy these Days. But Cowries bawo?! LMAO!

sinizia:


Deschamps was highly biased in his selection. Despite the squad depth of France, he got many selections wrong.

Very true, Rabiot should make the team ahead of Blaise Matuidi and Tolisso...
Benjamin Mendy shouldn't be in the team.
Martial ahead of Thuavin and Lemar.

sinizia:




You guys are not getting it. See, everyone knows England sucks at tournaments no matter who they put out there. Even the so-called "golden generation" of England achieved nothing. This is the normal England we're used to. But Southgate is trying to approach the tournament from another angle, which I think is brave. Here are the defenders for the last WC:

Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Southampton), Chris Smalling (Manchester United).

These defenders which Smalling was among are more of brawns than brains. They are your typical traditional defenders. What Southgate is trying to do this time around is to go for intelligence over brawn; he wants defenders that can pass comfortably from the back and initiate attacks. Southgate even tried the 3-man defence set-up in one of the friendlies, it shows a coach that wants to deviate from the norm since the norm hasn't worked. It might end up being a wrong call, but it's one worthy of giving a chance.

The key to his plans working though, is the midfield. If the midfield engine works perfectly, then other parts of the machine will work well. The wrong call I think Southgate has made so far is not picking Jonjo Shelvey.

yes I agree totally with u on jonjo Shelvey.i think he made a very big mistake there.coming back to d issue on ground.our argument here is whether McGuire is better dan smalling n nt smalling been one of best defenders in England which is a capital NO

Nihilstjnr:


who is the current Manchester United Player of the Year?

That might give you a clue as to why you've conceded fewer goals than leicester

yes we v a very good goalkeeper in de gea.but my bro no matter how gud a keeper is if yr defense r bad ur in big trouble

patrickmuf:
Very true, Rabiot should make the team ahead of Blaise Matuidi and Tolisso...
Benjamin Mendy shouldn't be in the team.
Martial ahead of Thuavin and Lemar.

Bro, I ain't saying Deschamps his absolutely fair with the List, but it happens to almost all the National Teams Coaches.

For instance, let's take Rohr as an Instance, how can he rely on Uzoho, Ezenwa and Akpere as our Keepers for the Mundial?! What happens to Aiyenugba and Ejide?!

Martial is far talented than Thauvin, but Deschamps has his Reasons for picking Thauvin ahead of him.

Well..... I'm less concerned with whatever happens to the French NT, cos I'm gonna be 100% loyal to the Super Eagles.

#SoarEagles
#NaijaTakeover

Oasis007:




Bro, I ain't saying Deschamps his absolutely fair with the List, but it happens to almost all the National Teams Coaches.

For instance, let's take Rohr as an Instance, how can he rely on Uzoho, Ezenwa and Akpere as our Keepers for the Mundial?! What happens to Aiyenugba and Ejide?!

Martial is far talented than Thauvin, but Deschamps has his Reasons for picking Thauvin ahead of him.

Well..... I'm less concerned with whatever happens to the French NT, cos I'm gonna be 100% loyal to the Super Eagles.

#SoarEagles
#NaijaTakeover

I care less about the Super eagles, whenever I seem to care enough, they disappoint so may, just maybe we are not made for each other.

Hello Scummies


It's a Blessed Saturday morning...
I bring you greetings from all Chelsea brethren

hehe. @oasis, where those names they resurrect from?
Ambrose Vanzekin nko?

patrickmuf:
I care less about the Super eagles, [b]whenever I seem to care enough, they disappoint [/b]so may, just maybe we are not made for each other.

Pato, this sums up your love life?

sinizia:



Speaking of Pietrorico, what happened to that guy? Is he writing the never-ending MBBS as well?

His account got perma-blocked like mine.

His new account is mandemmillyrock I think

Skimpledawg:
Hello Scummies


It's a Blessed Saturday morning...
I bring you greetings from all Chelsea brethren

Blessed weekend shekpe.

How today's game gonna be?

Skimpledawg:

Pato, this sums up your love life?

Lol with the super eagles, yes...

patrickmuf:
I care less about the Super eagles, whenever I seem to care enough, they disappoint so may, just maybe we are not made for each other.

Why?!

Common...... let's support our own Brah! They ain't gonna disappoint us this time around.

In fact I foresee them making History in Russia.

#NaijaTakeover

patrickmuf:
Lol with the super eagles, yes...

Hahhahahaha



We will still know. Just wanted to shake tables small

Oasis007:





Why?!

Common...... let's support our own Brah! They ain't gonna disappoint us this time around.

In fact I foresee them making History in Russia.

#NaijaTakeover

No be only history, you add CRK.
We will loss to Argentina, Lose to Croatia and draw with Iceland, a hard fought point...

chidexxy007:


Blessed weekend shekpe.

How today's game gonna be?

The vision is really blurred! It just wasn't clear enough.

I see United playing so well, enjoying more of the ball and having a good time. But, I see Conte smiling at the end of it all, maybe cos Morata later had a fatal head injury

chidexxy007:
hehe. @oasis, where those names they resurrect from?
Ambrose Vanzekin nko?

Chai!

Vanzekin..... what a waste. I really loved him, but didn't know what happened to him and his Career.

patrickmuf:
No be only history, you add CRK.
We will loss to Argentina, Lose to Croatia and draw with Iceland, a hard fought point...

LMAO!

Pls if you really love your Head, and you don't want it to end up on a Spike, don't say this on the Super Eagles Thread.

Skimpledawg:

The vision is really blurred! It just wasn't clear enough.

I see United playing so well, enjoying more of the ball and having a good time. But, I see Conte smiling at the end of it all, maybe cos Morata later had a fatal head injury

U need to go back so you'll have a clearer vision cos this one you are telling me is something induced or vision under duress

Oasis007:




Chai!

Vanzekin..... what a waste. I really loved him, but didn't know what happened to him and his Career.

The Father Christmas even when its not christmas yet, lol
i heard he's in one of our local league clubs.

sinizia:


Bro, we're past the "United defenders are the best" stage about a week ago. Go to few pages back and see how that fictitious belief has been destroyed. I don't have strength to start digging up past posts to show you the miraculous works of DDG. But, I'll leave you with this fact sha: Watford have conceded less shots than us. Yes, you read it right. Despite the fable about our good defensive set-up, we've allowed oppositions take more shots than fuckîng Watford. Na DDG dey save us.

that's no way to draw up an inference. If we were facing more shots than a lowly placed team then you have to consider the function of the team as a unit.
Were there disruptions as a result of injuries, suspensions?
The team tactic; which were more often giving up the ball & inviting pressure whilst hoping for a quick breakout?

It is also more glaring that we registered lesser attempts upfront than teams below us on the table. I wouldn't put that down to a weak offence either. We scored very few & let in very few as well.

Our midfield is not even the strongest because they set up to play without having a lot of the ball. Now if we are poor @ the back, middle & front; why are we in second spot?