salvation101:
i asked you a simple question and yoy cant answer. God translated/transferred Enoch to where? If u say its the grave, show me from scripture. Whoever add to the word of God, the Bible says the plagues written will be added to him. By the way, why did u refuse to read the verse 10-12 wch also said heaven is for those who are persecuted for righteousness sake? Is it because it nullifies ur claim?

Sorry we're not saying anything against the scriptures,in Matthew 5:10-12 Jesus talked much about heaven because that's the group He is gathering at that time,you'll notice that He only mentioned "Earth" in verse 5. It's much later that He made His Followers to know that their still remains another group to be gathered,Jesus revealed this to Jehovah's witnesses in 1935 when other religious groups claiming Christians still thinks all good people are going to heaven.John 10:16 compared to Revelations 14:1,6 The first set are referred to as His bride because they'll live with Him forever as Spirit beings but the remaining will live forever on Earth under His righteous Kingdom rule and that is where all righteous people belongs because it's God original purpose,the heavenly hope came in due to the need for a government under God's control.The earthly Christians are the ones to preach and teach millions of those "unrighteous" resurrected ones who knew nothing about Jesus what is required for everlasting life.So we have the ACCURATE knowledge of the scriptures we're not stubbornly credulous with our beliefs.

Hairyrapunzel:


So spirit leading is 8 old papas in new york telling you they have the holy spirit in them and they are the only mediators between God and their followers who will inherit earth? Lol.
.I follow the bible like I said earlier. If you really follow the bible you will show us where God said his original plan was to renovate the earth.
I mean God saying this and not the idea of some men in new York.

Why are u scared of following the bible in practice? Why also do you like to lie in order to proof a lost point?

Hairyrapunzel:


So spirit leading is 8 old papas in new york telling you they have the holy spirit in them and they are the only mediators between God and their followers who will inherit earth? Lol.
.I follow the bible like I said earlier. If you really follow the bible you will show us where God said his original plan was to renovate the earth.
I mean God saying this and not the idea of some men in new York.

Why are u scared of following the bible in practice? Why also do you like to lie in order to proof a lost point?

so God has an original plan that is not written in the bible. God's thunder on you is doing warm up!

1. Please always state your Church before commenting.
2. On some occasions those who fail to state their churches are simply ashamed of that church...and
3. A few persons people without church affiliation are simply irresponsible, not wanting to be held against some known principles!

salvation101:
i was born and raised a pentecostal and was never a JW. Wen you can't attend to question asked, dats wen u look for straws to hold on to like a drowning man

So is it good for a Pentecostal that you claimed you were raised "Wen thry can't attend to question asked, dto start to look for straws to hold on to like a drowning man? Is that why you borrow all the false doctrines in order not to stand for the truth in the bible?

Jozzy4:


You are only twisting the scripture to your destruction, Isaiah 55:11 is talking about Gods PROPHECIES which are also expressed in words.

For someone to claim Jesus is Word of God means he is what comes out of Gods mouth and became surely means even the covenant promise you talked about was Jesus coming out of God mouth , right? Jesus reside in Gods mouth ? Or does he sit on throne at the right hand of God?

Longest time. How's mummy and daddy?


Beautiful. (first paragraph)

Jesus Himself CALLS HIMSELF, THE FULFILMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. His coming, His Works,His purpose is to fufil the laws and the writing of the prophets.
(Matthew 5 vs 17)


Second paragraph just shows how you guys reason scripture. So similar to the Muslims and the "natural man". Jesus is said to be SITED IN THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. NOT RIGHT HAND SIDE, NOT MOUTH, NOT FEET, NOT CHEST.

And right hand of any person means the place or personality of the given persons power. In God's case, His Omnipotence! Jesus is called the" mighty God", The Everlasting Father " (Isaiah 9vs 6(TWO NAMES ASCRIBED TO GOD THE FATHER TO SHOW HIS POWERFUL PERSONALITY!)

And can I reason like una? THERE ARE NO TWO MIGHTY GODS,THERE IS ONE!!! Why then is He called The (not A) Mighty God from the given scripture?

salvation101:

Am sure u don't even know the meaning of Cannon of scripture vos if u do, u will realize that its urs dat is fake. Why did ur society have to copy the cannon of scripture created by the ppl u called fakes? The arrangement of the old testament in the Torah is different from the way it is in the Christian Bible. Its those ppl u refer to as fakes dat decided to arrange it the way it is currently. Why did your society copy that? There are much literature materials that could av entered the Cannon, but it was the ppl who u call fake that eliminated some books and added some. Why did your society also copy that sequence? Why isn't there the gospel of Thomas in ur own Bible? Why did u copy from the cannon? Our u faked something that is already fake? Urs is double fake then.

You mean your demented reasoning can not let you be able to separate organized church doctrines infested by pagans and individuals who kept the truth amidst apostates and agents of darkness. And what do you have against righteous Church Fathers who do not subscribe to the apostasy of the orthodox churches? -

May resentment for the lord's anointed not prevent you from understanding 2Thessalonians 2:1-7

enimooko:
Why are u scared of following the bible in practice? Why also do you like to lie in order to proof a lost point?

so God has an original plan that is not written in the bible. God's thunder on you is doing warm up!

1. Please always state your Church before commenting.
2. On some occasions those who fail to state their churches are simply ashamed of that church...and
3. A few persons people without church affiliation are simply irresponsible, not wanting to be held against some known principles!

My brother, that's not a problem at all. Remember that the mountain of Jehovah(pure worship) will be lifted above all others mountains and hills! Isaiah 2:2-4 So their places of worship has been rendered faceless,speechless and without recognition spiritually speaking, therefore don't bother to ask them to point to a hill that's so low in comparison to Jehovah's lofty mountain (pure worship) Remember Jesus' statement at Matthew 5:14 of course their religious organization must be hidden when it has NO reputation at all. Matthew 5:15,16. If you want them to start crying and agitating just say "I'm one of Jehovah's witnesses!" and see how many faces will turn to look at you a second time as if they're not all from "different" religious groups! Praise Jah!

deebrain:



Longest time. How's mummy and daddy?


Beautiful. (first paragraph)

Jesus Himself CALLS HIMSELF, THE FULFILMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. His coming, His Works,His purpose is to fufil the laws and the writing of the prophets.
(Matthew 5 vs 17)


Second paragraph just shows how you guys reason scripture. So similar to the Muslims and the "natural man". Jesus is said to be SITED IN THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. NOT RIGHT HAND SIDE, NOT MOUTH, NOT FEET, NOT CHEST.

And right hand of any person means the place or personality of the given persons power. In God's case, His Omnipotence! Jesus is called the" mighty God", The Everlasting Father " (Isaiah 9vs 6(TWO NAMES ASCRIBED TO GOD THE FATHER TO SHOW HIS POWERFUL PERSONALITY!)

And can I reason like una? THERE ARE NO TWO MIGHTY GODS,THERE IS ONE!!! Why then is He called The (not A) Mighty God from the given scripture?

No Sir the Bible says there are many "mighty Gods" Psalms 82:1 that place you quoted is Isaiah 9:6 there it was written "...and His name will be called... Mighty God..." Please it's evident that Jesus is just one of those mighty Gods but there is just one "Almighty God" Exodus 6:2,3 and HE is the person that empowered and sent Jesus. Psalms 110.1 compared to Act 2:29-36,1Corinthians 15:25-28 He is the "everlasting father" for all of Adam's descendants who wants to have another immortal father through whom they can relate with Jehovah God the Original Father of both Adam and Jesus So that God can become our Grandfather through faith and not through blood.Please read Luke 3:38,John 20:17 compared to 1Corinthians 15:45 notice that Jesus and Adam were equated in that text! Thanks and God bless you!

Hairyrapunzel:


You claim to be a Christian and follower of Christ yet you keep looking for where Elijah, enoch and Moses reside. You want to answer name Christian yet you don't wanna do the things bible says a Christian should do.

No wonder you people say Jesus isn't your mediator.

Where is Enoch,Moses and Elijah now?

salvation101:
u obviously couldn't answer d question

or u refuse to accept the answer

Can anyone shed some light on Pedophilia in the Jehovah's Witness organisation?

PastorAIO:
Can anyone shed some light on Pedophilia in the Jehovah's Witness organisation?

Yes Sir! That's simple, it's like Adults everywhere are no more attracted to minors except amongst Jehovah's witnesses ONLY. Instead of asking important questions that's going to help you recognize those observing Jesus' words,your main focus is why are some "imperfect" humans like you (who are trying to put away the old personality) are still been accused of wrongdoings.Wonders shall never end!

deebrain:



Longest time. How's mummy and daddy?


Beautiful. (first paragraph)

Jesus Himself CALLS HIMSELF, THE FULFILMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. His coming, His Works,His purpose is to fufil the laws and the writing of the prophets.
(Matthew 5 vs 17)


Second paragraph just shows how you guys reason scripture. So similar to the Muslims and the "natural man". Jesus is said to be SITED IN THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. NOT RIGHT HAND SIDE, NOT MOUTH, NOT FEET, NOT CHEST.

And right hand of any person means the place or personality of the given persons power. In God's case, His Omnipotence! Jesus is called the" mighty God", The Everlasting Father " (Isaiah 9vs 6(TWO NAMES ASCRIBED TO GOD THE FATHER TO SHOW HIS POWERFUL PERSONALITY!)

And can I reason like una? THERE ARE NO TWO MIGHTY GODS,THERE IS ONE!!! Why then is He called The (not A) Mighty God from the given scripture?

If Jesus doesn't reside in Gods mouth, How come he come out when God SPOKE ?

Riofidelio:
No Sir the Bible says there are many "mighty Gods" Psalms 82:1 that place you quoted is Isaiah 9:6 there it was written "...and His name will be called... Mighty God..." Please it's evident that Jesus is just one of those mighty Gods but there is just one "Almighty God" Exodus 6:2,3 and HE is the person that empowered and sent Jesus. Psalms 110.1 compared to Act 2:29-36,1Corinthians 15:25-28 He is the "everlasting father" for all of Adam's descendants who wants to have another immortal father through whom they can relate with Jehovah God the Original Father of both Adam and Jesus So that God can become our Grandfather through faith and not through blood.Please read Luke 3:38,John 20:17 compared to 1Corinthians 15:45 notice that Jesus and Adam were equated in that text! Thanks and God bless you!

don't mind that fellow,

salvation101:
the writer of Hebrews boldly stated dat job didn't see death u are trying to explain the Bible away. Show me the place in scripture that says Enoch was buried by God. Shikenan

Enoch died - the writer of Hebrew clarifies that when he said " in faith, ALL of these died " Hebrew 11:13

Riofidelio:
Jesus started this movement and they were later called Christians.Please do you notice that before someone could become a Christian he/she must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ? Well that's the big issue back then, most of the Jews knew what the prophets are saying but acknowledging Jesus (The Carpenter living in Nazareth) as the promised Messiah was their problem because if they agreed they must start preaching and teaching in His name! The same thing most people you're calling Christians find very difficult to do today. Of course many were called meaning "wherever a Christian is talking about Faith in Jesus many hearts will be touched" Matthew 9:36 compared to Act 26:28 but few are chosen meaning only few will be able to continue in the Faith in the test of time. John 6:66-68 We do experience the same today,when we preach in place where people are not religiously inclined so many people will follow US because of hearing good news that brings them relief but just few remains in the truth after hearing the bitter side of the TRUTH! My friend it's that FEW that Jehovah and Jesus wanted and not the incapable crowds.

but u were claiming that the Pharisees were increasing more than the followers of Jesus na. I pointed you there so that you would know that the gospel of Christ attracts men, even the so called Pharisees went for his meetings. U claimed that you have to be baptized before you can be born again, dat is also not true. Jesus didn't come to save a few but everyone and only those who reject him will be condemned eventually.

salvation101:
i asked you a simple question and yoy cant answer. God translated/transferred Enoch to where? If u say its the grave, show me from scripture. Whoever add to the word of God, the Bible says the plagues written will be added to him. By the way, why did u refuse to read the verse 10-12 wch also said heaven is for those who are persecuted for righteousness sake? Is it because it nullifies ur claim?

That he was transferred not to see death doesn't mean he didnt later die. It shows he was rescued from a Situation that could have killed him

There was a time disciples rescue Paul when his life was on danger , such moments can be regarded as transferred not to see death because if not for those intervention people or mobs would kill him, but that rescue makes Paul escapes death during that dangerous moment .

Enoch later died . Heb 11:13

Riofidelio:
Well it's like you don't really know what a GRAVE means! Grave is where people keep the bodies of their dead loved ones, after burial it's designed with some kind of structures so that future generations could see where someone great has been laid to rest. That's what comes from man's instinct after death has been pronounced on Adam and his descendants,God has His own memory book where the names of those righteous in HIS sight are written and it's tantamount to "Grave" that men do build,many righteous ones were thrown to wild animals by wicked people to be eating alive for the sake of righteousness,please their own GRAVE is in God's memory book.Matthew 23:35 If Jesus could know what evil men did to good people in secret how do you estimate God's own memory? So all the dead are in their Grave the righteous (those who are in God's memory book) and the unrighteous (those who were declared righteous by "men" due to their virtuous deeds but still needs to undergo training to be declared righteous from God's standpoint)John 5:28,29 Act 24:15 Abel,Enoch,Moses,Elijah and a host of others belong to the first group while most of the other group are people who never knew the true God but tried all within their capability to do what is good. All these people are awaiting the resurrection in their GRAVE whether the ones designed by men or God's memory book! Malachi 3:16 compare to Revelations 20:15 You're asking thought provoking questions and it's fine works if you're doing so with sincerity and unbiased! God bless you.

so u are trying to say those who are dead and buried are in the grave. Are you also infering that Enoch is dead? Because the person who wrote the book of Hebrews existed thousands of years after Enoch and claimed that Enoch did not see death

Riofidelio:
No Sir the Bible says there are many "mighty Gods" Psalms 82:1 that place you quoted is Isaiah 9:6 there it was written "...and His name will be called... Mighty God..." Please it's evident that Jesus is just one of those mighty Gods but there is just one "Almighty God" Exodus 6:2,3 and HE is the person that empowered and sent Jesus. Psalms 110.1 compared to Act 2:29-36,1Corinthians 15:25-28 He is the "everlasting father" for all of Adam's descendants who wants to have another immortal father through whom they can relate with Jehovah God the Original Father of both Adam and Jesus So that God can become our Grandfather through faith and not through blood.Please read Luke 3:38,John 20:17 compared to 1Corinthians 15:45 notice that Jesus and Adam were equated in that text! Thanks and God bless you!

Is it that you guys think the Bible is not available to the read?

The bolded will indeed shock EVERY CHRISTIAN IN NAIRALAND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FAITH STANDS FOR! I am in shock.

Psalm 82. read the chapter. HE IS TALKING TO HUMANS (His children) who are gods,correctly, since He is a God! There is NO OTHER personality called a mighty God BUT GOD THE FATHER ALONE-THAT JESUS USED THE SAME TERM MEANS THEY ARE BONDED!

Psalm 110 David correctly, prophecies about the fulfilment of Jesus' assignments on earth, in heaven as a priest and the second coming as the finisher of evil on the "day of His wrath"...

1 Corinthians 15 you brought two instances-STILL CONCERNING THE MISSION OF JESUS CHRIST AS MAN'S REPRESENTATIVE. In the first Adam,everyone is condemned to eternal death. via Jesus, every Man is brought to life! That's their similarity NOT EQUALITY! Jesus and Adam are not mates!

And 1 Corinthians 15vs 28. Jesus indeed returns to status quo. Redemption is complete. The word returns to The One it belongs! Revelation 22. You see the continuous use of The throne of God AND OF THE LAMB (THERE IS ONE THRONE NOT TWO!)


God speaks, Revelation 22 vs 6, That He is coming quickly! (I thought it was Jesus that is coming for saints and judgement?).... He continues AND POWERFULLY IN VERSE 16 CALLS HIS NAME JESUS!!! compare with the earlier verse 6....


God will always bless me. Thanks.

Jozzy4:


If Jesus doesn't reside in Gods mouth, How come he come out when God SPOKE ?

You must be extremely stupid for this statement. God made us in His image and likeness does not mean you insult His person. So you can ask Him if He goes to the loo....(since He made backside too)

salvation101:
but u were claiming that the Pharisees were increasing more than the followers of Jesus na. I pointed you there so that you would know that the gospel of Christ attracts men, even the so called Pharisees went for his meetings. U claimed that you have to be baptized before you can be born again, dat is also not true. Jesus didn't come to save a few but everyone and only those who reject him will be condemned eventually.

A Born again person must be born from water and spirit - To be born from Water is to be baptized . John 3:5 ,

To be born from spirit is to be chosen by God as a born again ( New Birth, hope to rule as heirs with Christ in heaven) - Jesus explain that in John 3:8, just like a person doesn't know how where the wind is coming from or where it's going, a born again person doesn't low how it happen, They just hear the sound of it , that is realized God has chosen them . the process is not controlled by them

deebrain:



You must be extremely stupid for this statement.

Simple question requires an answer.
Well, by their fruit they will be recognized, it shows in your words.

Riofidelio:
Sorry we're not saying anything against the scriptures,in Matthew 5:10-12 Jesus talked much about heaven because that's the group He is gathering at that time,you'll notice that He only mentioned "Earth" in verse 5. It's much later that He made His Followers to know that their still remains another group to be gathered

Oh, what you are saying in essence is that it is only those people Jesus preached to that would get to heaven. Am i right? So when did the last batch of those who will make it to heaven elapse?

Jesus revealed this to Jehovah's witnesses in 1935 when other religious groups claiming Christians still thinks all good people are going to heaven.John 10:16 compared to Revelations 14:1,6 The first set are referred to as His bride because they'll live with Him forever as Spirit beings but the remaining will live forever on Earth under His righteous Kingdom rule and that is where all righteous people belongs because it's God original purpose,the heavenly hope came in due to the need for a government under God's control.The earthly Christians are the ones to preach and teach millions of those "unrighteous" resurrected ones who knew nothing about Jesus what is required for everlasting life.So we have the ACCURATE knowledge of the scriptures we're not stubbornly credulous with our beliefs.

interesting but the Bible warned us not to listen to men or angels if they bring another gospel different from what has been preached. What you just said goes against the teachings of the new testament.

Jozzy4:


don't mind that fellow,

Many of them have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines (1) Don't drink alcoholic beverages (2) Women shouldn't put on jewelries and makeovers (3) Women must ALWAYS cover their beautiful hairs or shave it (4) White garments during worship,and so on but all of them can't agree on what's really important as Christians and they're in every country across the globe just like Jehovah's witnesses yet they will form allies against JWs simply because we don't compromise our own doctrines and teachings as these are of high value to US! I had an experience with two of them both claiming Born Again, that day a lady was going to church in trousers so a DEEPER said "she'll end up in HELL FIRE" but a WINNER had a different opinion "it's her heart that God is searching" they both can't agree on the matter but when they asked if i'm also Born again and i said NO they concluded and said to me "you can't understand"

deebrain:




Is it that you guys think the Bible is not available to the read?

The bolded will indeed shock EVERY CHRISTIAN IN NAIRALAND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FAITH STANDS FOR! I am in shock.

Psalm 82. read the chapter. HE IS TALKING TO HUMANS (His children) who are gods,correctly, since He is a God! There is NO OTHER personality called a mighty God BUT GOD THE FATHER ALONE-THAT JESUS USED THE SAME TERM MEANS THEY ARE BONDED!

Psalm 110 David correctly, prophecies about the fulfilment of Jesus' assignments on earth, in heaven as a priest and the second coming as the finisher of evil on the "day of His wrath"...

1 Corinthians 15 you brought two instances-STILL CONCERNING THE MISSION OF JESUS CHRIST AS MAN'S REPRESENTATIVE. In the first Adam,everyone is condemned to eternal death. via Jesus, every Man is brought to life! That's their similarity NOT EQUALITY! Jesus and Adam are not mates!

And 1 Corinthians 15vs 28. Jesus indeed returns to status quo. Redemption is complete. The word returns to The One it belongs! Revelation 22. You see the continuous use of The throne of God AND OF THE LAMB (THERE IS ONE THRONE NOT TWO!)


God speaks, Revelation 22 vs 6, That He is coming quickly! (I thought it was Jesus that is coming for saints and judgement?).... He continues AND POWERFULLY IN VERSE 16 CALLS HIS NAME JESUS!!! compare with the earlier verse 6....


God will always bless me. Thanks.

Ignorance.

Almighty God doesn't have a God .

Who is the God of the Father ? None! He is Almighty

Does Jesus have a God ? Reply

enimooko:
So is it good for a Pentecostal that you claimed you were raised "Wen thry can't attend to question asked, dto start to look for straws to hold on to like a drowning man? Is that why you borrow all the false doctrines in order not to stand for the truth in the bible?

if we are talking about false doctrine or doctrines with no scriptural basis, u (jw) can not be exonerated and you know it.

salvation101:
if we are talking about false doctrine or doctrines with no scriptural basis, u (jw) can not be exonerated and you know it.

Reply my mentions and let's see who hold false doctrines dear

Jozzy4:
Ignorance.
Almighty God doesn't have a God .
Who is the God of the Father ? None! He is Almighty
Does Jesus have a God ? Reply

Who is the God of the Everlasting Father? Reply...

enimooko:
You mean your demented reasoning can not let you be able to separate organized church doctrines infested by pagans and individuals who kept the truth amidst apostates and agents of darkness. And what do you have against righteous Church Fathers who do not subscribe to the apostasy of the orthodox churches? -

May resentment for the lord's anointed not prevent you from understanding 2Thessalonians 2:1-7

i hear you. Those you call pagan own the Canon of scripture u are using. The books, arrangements, division into chapters and verses were done by those you refer to as pagan. U stole it, doctored it and try to tell us urs is the correct one. If indeed you want to totally separate from those u call pagan, u could have gone to prepare ur own canon... Ur insults only shows u r sinking and dis conversation is beyond you

enimooko:
or u refuse to accept the answer

"See argument oooo. Thank God you're not evangelizing for God"
Is that what you call answer?

deebrain:


Who is the God of the Everlasting Father? Reply...

are u so scared that You stoop this low

Okay, The Father is the God of Jesus. Which shows Jesus power is not absolute nor Almighty, he is subjected to an authority - Rev 3:12

Jozzy4:


don't mind that fellow,

You are clearly stupid. So you tease at me, even when the unfinished project of a man that you quoted, made reference to a God being a GRANDFATHER?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?