deebrain:


Who is the God of the Everlasting Father? Reply...

are u so scared that You stoop this low

Okay, The Father is the God of Jesus. Which shows Jesus power is not absolute nor Almighty, he is subjected to an authority - Rev 3:12, 1 Cor 11:3

Jozzy4:


are u so scared that You stoop this low

Okay, The Father is the God of Jesus. Which shows Jesus power is not absolute nor Almighty, he is subjected to an authority - Rev 3:12

100% absolute power!!

Jozzy4:


Enoch died - the writer of Hebrew clarifies that when he said " in faith, ALL of these died " Hebrew 11:13

taking dat verse in isolation changes the narrative entirely. This was wat d Bible said.

12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

These all died in faith is talking about those who died and didn't receive the promisebut still kept on believing God..
Now this is for Enoch :
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Jozzy4:


That he was transferred not to see death doesn't mean he didnt later die. It shows he was rescued from a Situation that could have killed him

There was a time disciples rescue Paul when his life was on danger , such moments can be regarded as transferred not to see death because if not for those intervention people or mobs would kill him, but that rescue makes Paul escapes death during that dangerous moment .

Enoch later died . Heb 11:13

the bible didn't say that. The bible told us what we are supposed to know about enoch and its in black and white.. He did not die. He was translated, except u r inferring dat he was translated to grave wch will be accusing God of killing him alive

Jozzy4:


are u so scared that You stoop this low

Okay, The Father is the God of Jesus. Which shows Jesus power is not absolute nor Almighty, he is subjected to an authority - Rev 3:12, 1 Cor 11:3

Love the 1 Corinthians 11 vs 3 !!! it just made me happy.

Tells you the authority of the man over the woman here on earth!!!


Matthew 22 vs 30 in resurrection, there are no marriages, there is no authority over the woman... THEY ARE NOW BOTH AS THE ANGELS--- THE SAME!!!
THE RETURNING TO STATUS QUO (Genesis 1vs 27).

Use that to study Jesus Christ accomplishing His mission on earth AND WHO HE IS IN HEAVEN

Jozzy4:


A Born again person must be born from water and spirit - To be born from Water is to be baptized . John 3:5 ,

To be born from spirit is to be chosen by God as a born again ( New Birth, hope to rule as heirs with Christ in heaven) - Jesus explain that in John 3:8, just like a person doesn't know how where the wind is coming from or where it's going, a born again person doesn't low how it happen, They just hear the sound of it , that is realized God has chosen them . the process is not controlled by them

baptism in water is a ritual to fulfill all righteousness Jesus as Jesus said. Was Judas iscariot not baptized in water? Why then didn't he enter the kingdom. He continued as a thief and was stealing from d treasury.
1peter1:23 already told us that being born again is being born by the Word of God wch liveth and abideth forever.

salvation101:

Oh, what you are saying in essence is that it is only those people Jesus preached to that would get to heaven. Am i right? So when did the last batch of those who will make it to heaven elapse?
interesting but the Bible warned us not to listen to men or angels if they bring another gospel different from what has been preached. What you just said goes against the teachings of the new testament.

Hmmmmmmmmm you're not getting my point.Jesus only came to organize those who will rule with Him in heaven that's why He said "i came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:6,15:24 Please it's because they're the ONLY nation God originally had in mind for that purpose (ruling with the Messiah) Yet He's coming is to save all mankind meaning after those Born Agains have been chosen and sealed for the kingdom rule,they're the ones to gather the subjects of the kingdom by preaching and teaching them the rules from the King's mouth! John 3:16 said God love the world but it's only Israelites alone that HE want to choose as co~rulers with the Christ. Since they rejected the offer God's intention must come to be so that invitation was blown open and other nationalities can become part of that group! Matthew 22:1-14 Please nobody can become part of that group by choice or might, it's God that's selecting them even Jesus Himself has NO say on that! Matthew 20:20-23 There are restrictions even for Jesus because He loves humans to a fault.Proverbs 8:30,31 That's why God didn't reveal everything to Him due to His attachment to humans! Matthew 24:36 There are still few of the Born Agains remaining on Earth today,anyone who wants to force himself or herself to become one of them will face a severe penalty right from the day of Pentecost(the time God started the selection) till today.1Christians 11:27-30 These are great sacred secrets!

salvation101:
taking dat verse in isolation changes the narrative entirely. This was wat d Bible said.

12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

These all died in faith is talking about those who died and didn't receive the promisebut still kept on believing God..
Now this is for Enoch :
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Well God's word is not for arguments (Philip 2:14,Titus 3:9)but for "setting matters straight" 2Timothy 3:16 so that the man of God may be fully competent and completely equipped for all good works.verse 17 So if the Bible says that at death people knows nothing and that all creatures are returning to dust. Ecclesiastes 3:19-21/ 9:4-6,10 Hebrew mentioned the names of all those who are in God's memory book and chp11:13 says that they all died. Jesus taught US that No man has ascended to heaven and that heaven could only be reached by those born of water and spirit. You can put all these facts together to reach a reasonable conclusion on the cases of Enoch,Moses and Elijah. But most importantly you must go out there to preach and teach people all that Jesus the "Christ" has revealed to you if you're truly a "Christian" nobody should form any laws against you(Galatians 5:23) Your own heart will tell you "you're doing fine in the work of the Lord" God bless you.

salvation101:

"See argument oooo. Thank God you're not evangelizing for God"
Is that what you call answer?

e pain am

salvation101:
i hear you. Those you call pagan own the Canon of scripture u are using. The books, arrangements, division into chapters and verses were done by those you refer to as pagan. U stole it, doctored it and try to tell us urs is the correct one. If indeed you want to totally separate from those u call pagan, u could have gone to prepare ur own canon... Ur insults only shows u r sinking and dis conversation is beyond you

keep calling the christian catalogue pagan, while your own church claim "christian"

salvation101:
if we are talking about false doctrine or doctrines with no scriptural basis, u (jw) can not be exonerated and you know it.

such as rapture, hellfire, demonic magic, tithing, acceptance of homosexuality and gay priests, re-incarnation, immortality, purgatory, limbo, instant salvation, kingdom of God commercialized, Christmas, Easter, birthdays, new year celebration, sanctification of two world wars......please add your sins to the list. You are adequately informed and warned.

Tell us one event or one doctrine that is pagan or UN-scriptural done or approved by Jesus Christ or the first century Christian

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm you're not getting my point.Jesus only came to organize those who will rule with Him in heaven that's why He said "i came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:6,15:24 Please it's because they're the ONLY nation God originally had in mind for that purpose (ruling with the Messiah) Yet He's coming is to save all mankind meaning after those Born Agains have been chosen and sealed for the kingdom rule,they're the ones to gather the subjects of the kingdom by preaching and teaching them the rules from the King's mouth! John 3:16 said God love the world but it's only Israelites alone that HE want to choose as co~rulers with the Christ. Since they rejected the offer God's intention must come to be so that invitation was blown open and other nationalities can become part of that group! Matthew 22:1-14 Please nobody can become part of that group by choice or might, it's God that's selecting them even Jesus Himself has NO say on that! Matthew 20:20-23 There are restrictions even for Jesus because He loves humans to a fault.Proverbs 8:30 That's why God didn't reveal everything to Him due to His attachment to humans! Matthew 24:36 There are still few of the Born Agains remaining on Earth today,anyone who wants to force himself or herself to become one of them will face a severe penalty right from the day of Pentecost(the time God started the selection) till today.1Christians 11:27-30 These are great sacred secrets!

i love your knowledge of scripture even though i do not agree with ur interpretation. Everything about Jesus ministry was prophesied but he didn't force any prophecy to come to pass, he allowed it happened naturally. He said he came to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel wch is a prophecy that will still come to pass. Even the gospel was first preached to the Jews but they rejected it. This was what Paul said in Acts 13:46

46 Then Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and declared, “It was necessary that we first preach the word of God to you Jews. But since you have rejected it and judged yourselves unworthy of eternal life, we will offer it to the Gentiles.

Are you saying there are no gentile born again too?

Riofidelio:
Well God's word is not for arguments (Philip 2:14,Titus 3:9)but for "setting matters straight" 2Timothy 3:16 so that the man of God may be fully competent and completely equipped for all good works.verse 17 So if the Bible says that at death people knows nothing and that all creatures are returning to dust. Ecclesiastes 3:19-21/ 9:4-6,10 Hebrew mentioned the names of all those who are in God's memory book and chp11:13 says that they all died. Jesus taught US that No man has ascended to heaven and that heaven could only be reached by those born of water and spirit. You can put all these facts together to reach a reasonable conclusion on the cases of Enoch,Moses and Elijah. But most importantly you must go out there to preach and teach people all that Jesus the "Christ" has revealed to you if you're truly a "Christian" nobody should form any laws against you(Galatians 5:23) Your own heart will tell you "you're doing fine in the work of the Lord" God bless you.

there is a difference between ascending and to be translated.. One involves the will of the individual, another involves the will of a higher power. Jesus ascended willingly, Enoch was translated, Elijah too was taken, not of his own will

enimooko:
e pain am

eeya.. U just wanted to contribute on d thread ba? But dis discussion seems to be beyond u..

enimooko:
such as rapture, hellfire, demonic magic, tithing, acceptance of homosexuality and gay priests, re-incarnation, immortality, purgatory, limbo, instant salvation, kingdom of God commercialized, Christmas, Easter, birthdays, new year celebration, sanctification of two world wars......please add your sins to the list. You are adequately informed and warned.

Tell us one event or one doctrine that is pagan or UN-scriptural done or approved by Jesus Christ or the first century Christian

Haaaaaaaa brother, all these you have mentioned above can't be found or proven in the Bible but are just for praising and glorifying tha Lord. Somebarry shout Halleluyah!

enimooko:
keep calling the christian catalogue pagan, while your own church claim "christian"

u r shying away from the truth. Wch Christian catalogue? Go and read about the Canon of the scripture. What Christians call Bible today was decided upon by a church council around 400AD. How come you accepted that work and decisions. There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible. How come u agree to hold on to the 66 books dey decided upon and still call dem pagan

salvation101:
i love your knowledge of scripture even though i do not agree with ur interpretation. Everything about Jesus ministry was prophesied but he didn't force any prophecy to come to pass, he allowed it happened naturally. He said he came to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel wch is a prophecy that will still come to pass. Even the gospel was first preached to the Jews but they rejected it. This was what Paul said in Acts 13:46

46 Then Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and declared, “It was necessary that we first preach the word of God to you Jews. But since you have rejected it and judged yourselves unworthy of eternal life, we will offer it to the Gentiles.

Are you saying there are no gentile born again too?

Hmmmmmmmmm you can't love something and at the same time disagree with that which you LOVE That's impossible! Well i've told you already that Christianity and selecting the Born Again started simultaneously.Jesus preached and teach to gather Christians, God select the Born Agains ONLY amongst Christians,Jews failed to hid the call,Invitation was blown open for Gentiles to fill the remaining gap. The first set were only Jews at Pentecost meaning God has fulfilled HIS promise to Abraham,there are 144,000 seats in God's heavenly Kingdom for the kings who are also priests,to fill the remaining seats Gentiles were chosen along,the selection still continue till our time meaning someone from your own hometown must have been chosen as one of them,many were called but few were chosen of course God won't call you and condemn you after you've done all that HE commanded! So the word "Chosen" means for another special assignment. Please there are still Born Agains in our midst now but we ONLY know them during the yearly commemoration of Jesus' death. Because they're the only ones qualified to eat and drink of His flesh and blood, whoever does unworthily even though he's a dedicated Christian will face a severe punishment! 1Christians 11:27-30 God's Kingdom will start operating here on Earth when the last one of them dies and goes straight to have his/her own seat with Jesus in heaven. It's a pity that you love what you're hearing but just can't accept it. Act 26:26-28

enimooko:
such as rapture, hellfire, demonic magic, tithing, acceptance of homosexuality and gay priests, re-incarnation, immortality, purgatory, limbo, instant salvation, kingdom of God commercialized, Christmas, Easter, birthdays, new year celebration, sanctification of two world wars......please add your sins to the list. You are adequately informed and warned.

Tell us one event or one doctrine that is pagan or UN-scriptural done or approved by Jesus Christ or the first century Christian

wen u talk about demonic magic, i guess u were referring to miracle. Ur belief doesn't produce the power we see in scripture, shouldn't that make you question ur belief? You believe that demons have power, but do not believe in the power of God. It can only be possible after brainwashing

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm you can't love something and at the same time disagree with that which you LOVE That's impossible! Well i've told you already that Christianity and selecting the Born Again started simultaneously.Jesus preached and teach to gather Christians, God select the Born Agains ONLY amongst Christians,Jews failed to hid the call,Invitation was blown open for Gentiles to fill the remaining gap. The first set were only Jews at Pentecost meaning God has fulfilled HIS promise to Abraham,there are 144,000 seats in God's heavenly Kingdom for the kings who are also priests,to fill the remaining seats Gentiles were chosen along,the selection still continue till our time meaning someone from your own hometown must have been chosen as one of them,many were called but few were chosen of course God won't call you and condemn you after you've done all that HE commanded! So the word "Chosen" means for another special assignment. Please there are still Born Agains in our midst now but we ONLY know them during the yearly commemoration of Jesus' death. Because they're the only ones qualified to eat and drink of His flesh and blood, whoever does unworthily even though he's a dedicated Christian will face a severe punishment! 1Christians 11:27-30 God's Kingdom will start operating here on Earth when the last one of them dies and goes straight to have his/her own seat with Jesus in heaven. It's a pity that you love what you're hearing but just can't accept it. Act 26:26-28

love is a strong word, perhaps i should av said like. It was actually a compliment.
God fulfilled his promise to Abraham by opening the gospel to the gentiles. Abraham is not only the father of the Jews.. Bible said those of us that have faith are seeds of Abraham Galatians 3:7,29. Thereby fulfilling the promise that Abraham will have seed all over the world.
The promise that is yet to be fulfilled is the restoration of the kingdom of Israel. Jesus is still coming to reign as King in Israel.

salvation101:
wen u talk about demonic magic, i guess u were referring to miracle. Ur belief doesn't produce the power we see in scripture, shouldn't that make you question ur belief? You believe that demons have power, but do not believe in the power of God. It can only be possible after brainwashing

why are you comparing miracles to demonic magic. and you're supposed to be a christian - mtchewww

salvation101:
there is a difference between ascending and to be translated.. One involves the will of the individual, another involves the will of a higher power. Jesus ascended willingly, Enoch was translated, Elijah too was taken, not of his own will

There are incidents that took place during Bible times that even those who wrote it don't know it's meaning or can explain what was happening! Daniel 12:8-13 compared to Matthew 11:2 So all these things were explanations by the power of the Holy Spirit therefore whoever refuse to agree will only have one thing remaining to help him/her and that's questions arising in your heart e.g Why is it that these people with whom we disagreed are the ONLY ones able to come out boldly and continue without letup to preach and teach despite all the deplorable state of morals in today's society? Why is it that throughout the Earth their voice is heard whereas they're relatively few? Why is it that most of them are so efficient in the Bible's knowledge? Why is it that they're the only religion that none of it's members do carry weapons for any reason whatsoever? Why is it that they won't participate in politics that's generally agreed as a "dirty game"? Why is it that despite the hostility people show towards them they're still waxing stronger with their preaching and teaching program? Why is it that their the only people who's 99% of marriages last for a lifetime? Why is it that they're the only religious group that stick to the instruction to marry only in the Lord? Why is it that throughout the world they have LOVE for their members? Well these and many more questions will continue to linger in your heart even if you intentionally refused to accept what we're saying!

enimooko:
why are you comparing miracles to demonic magic. and you're supposed to be a christian - mtchewww

as far as i know, you guys do not believe miracles still exists, but u believe demonic power still exists

salvation101:
u r shying away from the truth. Wch Christian catalogue? Go and read about the Canon of the scripture. What Christians call Bible today was decided upon by a church council around 400AD. How come you accepted that work and decisions. There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible. How come u agree to hold on to the 66 books dey decided upon and still call dem pagan

"There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible" - Please go and check the meaning of revisionism. you can visit the history department of the university of Nigeria Nsukka.

I would have pitied and educated you, if you were sincere. You have been reading indoctrinated history: Your two assertions

1. What Christians call Bible today was decided upon by a church council around 400AD.
2. There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible. are both half truths. But i leave you to your blindness since you say you know better

moving on - as for if there is anything wrong in allowing God to use whoever he wishes and then using someone else to conclude his assignment see the narrative that can be found in 1 Samuel 1:2-2:21.

Stop reading revisionists materials on "canon of the scriptures" because the devil can control narratives. I was not there and neither were you! Stop being brainwashed by Pentecostalism ideologies that has no credible research institution and tradition

salvation101:
as far as i know, you guys do not believe miracles still exists, but u believe demonic power still exists

Since you say you see, you remain blind. You want some people not to believe in miracles so that you can say they are false Christians. Whenever such ones say they believe in miracles you become angry.

No sane christian will believe in the "miracles" of people that Jesus will later shun "get away from me" ...and you cannot force a true Christian to accept the miracles by your pastor!

Stop comparing miracles to devils magic.
Stop hiding who you are and which church you came from

salvation101:
eeya.. U just wanted to contribute on d thread ba? But dis discussion seems to be beyond u..

e pain am II

Riofidelio:
There are incidents that took place during Bible times that even those who wrote it don't know it's meaning or can explain what was happening! Daniel 12:8-13 compared to Matthew 11:2 So all these things were explanations by the power of the Holy Spirit therefore whoever refuse to agree will only have one thing remaining to help him/her and that's questions arising in your heart e.g Why is it that these people with whom we disagreed are the ONLY ones able to come out boldly and continue without letup to preach and teach despite all the deplorable state of morals in today's society? Why is it that throughout the Earth their voice is heard whereas they're relatively few? Why is it that most of them are so efficient in the Bible's knowledge? Why is it that they're the only religion that none of it's members do carry weapons for any reason whatsoever? Why is it that they won't participate in politics that's generally agreed as a "dirty game"? Why is it that despite the hostility people show towards them they're still waxing stronger with their preaching and teaching program? Why is it that their the only people who's 99% of marriages last for a lifetime? Why is it that they're the only religious group that stick to the instruction to marry only in the Lord? Why is it that throughout the world they have LOVE for their members? Well these and many more questions will continue to linger in your heart even if you intentionally refused to accept what we're saying!

your statement is full of assumptions. Man's righteousness is like a filthy rag before God. Ur good works u boast about, there are thousand unbelievers who do same and much more. That doesn't mean they are right with God

salvation101:
love is a strong word, perhaps i should av said like. It was actually a compliment.
God fulfilled his promise to Abraham by opening the gospel to the gentiles. Abraham is not only the father of the Jews.. Bible said those of us that have faith are seeds of Abraham Galatians 3:7,29. Thereby fulfilling the promise that Abraham will have seed all over the world.
The promise that is yet to be fulfilled is the restoration of the kingdom of Israel. Jesus is still coming to reign as King in Israel.

That's why i said you should listen without been biased! God promised Abraham and the same promise was transferred to Isaac and later to Jacob who was called Israel! Remember Abraham had 8 sons, Isaac had 2,while Jacob (Israelites) had 12. This is why the Bible listed the names from Abraham to Jesus to sow you that God has done HIS part by making sure that the Messiah came through that lineage! Matthew 1:1-14 Now if you're not an Israelite the ONLY way you can become his child is if you have his kind of faith! So God will see you as Abraham's descendants by reason of faith and not by blood!Galatians 3:29 compared to Matthew 3:9,10 Therefore i can say today that i'm also a descendant of Abraham by means of Faith in Christ Jesus and not by genealogy through blood.But Jews who refused to put faith in Jesus are doomed! You said Jesus is coming to reign and that's correct but not on Earth, His kingdom seat is in heaven along with the Born Agains that He has gone to prepare thrones for them. That promise has been fulfilled when the Fleshy Israelites were still together as a nation but today whatever promises remaining for Israelites belongs to Israelites by faith in Christ Jesus (Christians) Jesus plainly told the Jews that their cherished city Jerusalem along with it's King's throne in it has been condemned. Matthew 23:37 So whatever promises you read about Jerusalem in the Hebrew scriptures (Old Testament) has been given to those going to rule with Jesus in heaven. Please that's the reason why they were called the heavenly Jerusalem or Holy city! Hebrews 12:22 because Israeli Jerusalem has killed many Holy prophets and finally God's only begotten Son! God bless you

enimooko:


"There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible" - Please go and check the meaning of revisionism. you can visit the history department of the university of Nigeria Nsukka.

why do i have to go to Nsukka? Wat there that is not on the internet?

I would have pitied and educated you, if you were sincere. You have been reading indoctrinated history: Your two assertions

1. What Christians call Bible today was decided upon by a church council around 400AD.
2. There are several materials written by apostles that didn't make its way into the bible. are both half truths. But i leave you to your blindness since you say you know better

scurry along den.

moving on - as for if there is anything wrong in allowing God to use whoever he wishes and then using someone else to conclude his assignment see the narrative that can be found in 1 Samuel 1:2-2:21.

contradictory contradictions

^Stop reading revisionists materials on "canon of the scriptures" because the devil can control narratives. I was not there and neither were you! Stop being brainwashed by Pentecostalism ideologies that has no credible research institution and tradition

hehehehehehe... It makes perfect sense. I wasn't there but there are materials at my disposal written by people who do not even have affiliation with religion. U r being sentimental because it shows d flaws in ur belief system

enimooko:
e pain am II

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salvation101:
your statement is full of assumptions. Man's righteousness is like a filthy rag before God. Ur good works u boast about, there are thousand unbelievers who do same and much more. That doesn't mean they are right with God

Well if you call all these "assumptions" it's left to your conscience! After all i'm claiming that all these aren't what i'm used to before, i learnt it all and remained in it because of my love for me Christ Jesus so if you call it "assumptions" i'll advise you to assume too that you're fittingly qualified to be called a Christian as long as you can do all these for the sake of your love for Jesus! Perhaps i should explain what the scriptures is saying regarding virtuous deeds. No matter how good you can be and what virtuous works you have if you're not ready to accept Jesus as your Lord (ready to obey all the things He ordered His followers to keep observing) then all that your good works are NOTHING! But no matter how slow you're in doing good or catching up with virtuous instructions, as long as you're always ready to comply with whatever Jesus commanded God has already declared you righteous! Because you believe in the name of HIS only begotten Son. So my friend i'm not boasting that my virtuous deeds i knew on my own, i humbly learnt everything from Jesus through His messengers that came to preach and teach me His commandments and i bow because it's exactly what Jesus taught in the Bible! God bless you.

Riofidelio:
That's why i said you should listen without been biased! God promised Abraham and the same promise was transferred to Isaac and later to Jacob who was called Israel! Remember Abraham had 8 sons, Isaac had 2,while Jacob (Israelites) had 12. This is why the Bible listed the names from Abraham to Jesus to sow you that God has done HIS part by making sure that the Messiah came through that lineage! Now if you're not an Israelite the ONLY way you can become his child is if you have his kind of faith! So God will see you as Abraham's descendants by reason of faith and not by blood!Galatians 3:29 compared to Matthew 3:9,10 Therefore i can say today that i'm also a descendant of Abraham by means of Faith in Christ Jesus and not by genealogy through blood.But Jews who refused to put faith in Jesus are doomed! You said Jesus is coming to reign and that's correct but not on Earth, His kingdom seat is in heaven along with the Born Agains that He has gone to prepare thrones for them. That promise has been fulfilled when the Fleshy Israelites were still together as a nation but today whatever promises remaining for Israelites belongs to Israelites by faith in Christ Jesus (Christians) Jesus plainly told the Jews that their cherished city Jerusalem along with it's King's throne in it has been condemned. Matthew 23:37 So whatever promises you read about Jerusalem in the Hebrew scriptures (Old Testament) has been given to those going to rule with Jesus in heaven. Please that's the reason why they were called the heavenly Jerusalem or Holy city! Hebrews 12:22 because Israeli Jerusalem has killed many Holy prophets and finally God's only begotten Son! God bless you

do you realize that all Israelites aren't Jews? Infact most Israelites aren't Jews . The promise to Abraham wasn't to the Jews alone or Israelites alone. God told him that through him all the nations of the world will be blessed. Sonship isn't only about biological birth. Bible told us God is our father, not because he birthed us but because he adopted us..
Jesus is coming to reign in Jerusalem. That is after Armageddon. With his saints

Riofidelio:
Yes Sir! That's simple, it's like Adults everywhere are no more attracted to minors except amongst Jehovah's witnesses ONLY. Instead of asking important questions that's going to help you recognize those observing Jesus' words,your main focus is why are some "imperfect" humans like you (who are trying to put away the old personality) are still been accused of wrongdoings.Wonders shall never end!

The way you ducked my question is very suspicious. I didn't ask about any individuals. I asked if you could shed light about the JW organisation and it's attitude to pedophilia. Automatically you go on the defensive. This suggests that you are hiding something.

I have been studying the JW for a few months now and uncovered some very disturbing issues. It is a damning indictment on you that you do not consider this 'important questions'.

I have heard tales of cover ups within the organisation. And also tales of mind control at an institutional level. Not individuals but the organisation itself. Even going back as far as the proclivities of the founder of the organisation.


Again I ask you, please, can you shed light on pedophilia and how it is handled within the JW organisation?