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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:48pm On May 19, 2018
tbaba1234:


The agent is there to protect the player and club's interest.

That does not show that 'Pillars refused trials'. It shows that the agent was doing his job.

Come on now we both know the agent would have wanted trials

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:51pm On May 19, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Come on now we both know the agent would have wanted trials

You might be right but it is not obvious from that quote.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:53pm On May 19, 2018
Kano Pillars Chairman, Tukur Babangida


“Kano Pillars are only allowing him to go for medical and fitness tests. He is not going to have a trial.
“You should know the mentality of Nigerian players once they are contacted by any European club. They and their agents will put pressure on you to allow them to go and if you say no, they will be thinking otherwise. Transfers open in July in Europe and if he cannot go in June, then he has to wait until January. He has his options but he has no guarantees that he can get a club in January depending on his performance,”


The club refused tbaba1234

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:54pm On May 19, 2018
elyte89:

Did guy might just play himself out of d worldcup

It was a slight limp so it could be nothing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:55pm On May 19, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Kano Pillars Chairman, Tukur Babangida


“Kano Pillars are only allowing him to go for medical and fitness tests. He is not going to have a trial.
“You should know the mentality of Nigerian players once they are contacted by any European club. They and their agents will put pressure on you to allow them to go and if you say no, they will be thinking otherwise. Transfers open in July in Europe and if he cannot go in June, then he has to wait until January. He has his options but he has no guarantees that he can get a club in January depending on his performance,”


The club refused tbaba1234

Alright, so the club must have told the agent, no trials as part of the agreement to let him go.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:57pm On May 19, 2018
Success was rated whoscored.com star of the match today even though they lost the match against high flying Getafe

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:59pm On May 19, 2018
tbaba1234:


Alright, so the club must have told the agent, no trials as part of the agreement to let him go.

Yes sir!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:01pm On May 19, 2018
ChrisKels:



Oh really?

Dats by d way, what do u think prompted Cisse to drop his best striker(Niasse) for some unknown kids in France?

Oga, those that change the fact you goofed big time with that false information?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:02pm On May 19, 2018
tbaba1234:
Ludogrets just said that the player from Kano Pillars (Lokosa) is below the level to be signed by their club.

Chai, this is our league top scorer. What a shame!!
this is what you have when you appear desperate and present yourself cheap.

She should have kept himself cool and keep performing till the end of the season.

Imagine him having 3-4offers. Which club will be asking him to come for trials...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:03pm On May 19, 2018
forgiveness:


Oga, those that change the fact you goofed big time with that false information?

What fact u talking about bro?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:08pm On May 19, 2018
Bolowolowo:


Omanbala, I have lived in the US for over a decade. I was fortunate enough to do my last two years of secondary school there. Who ever told that it is overrated is most certainly correct. The USA that you're currently thinking of has been gone over two decades ago. After the stock market crash of 2008, nothing was ever the same. When I lived there in Boston, racism was seriously rampant amongst police and civil servants. University was so ridiculously expensive that I had to transfer to Canada after my freshman year. Getting a decent paying job is like finding a needle in the haystack. On top of that, healthcare is just too damn expensive, so if you were sick and didn't have it, you are screwed. The cost of living just continues to rise everyday. It got bad for me at once that I had to go days eating merely 1 packet of 300g noodles and that was it. Thankfully, I switched to schools in Canada, found a job and got scholarships, but over half of the US population faces the problems I face. The American dream is dead. USA is just not the land opportunity (unless you have LOTS of money). I think Canada has taken that title. As well, one must consider the copius amounts of gun violence.

I am not here to defend America but I will not tell a single story about a country that has blessed me a lot. All you talked about here is everything negative about America and that is not fair. Education should be expensive, at least, good education. You graduate with huge dept hanging on your neck but but its worth it,if not try labor work. Healthcare is expensive for those that dont have good insurance and good insurance comes with decent job... There you have it, there is no such thing as free lunch. Even in Nigeria if you dont have money to pay for hospital bills your family will be left to die!

American dream is a fluke ,you create your own America...If na crack you wan smoke na your business,if you want to be a doctor na inside your pocket. By the way, I heard that taxes in Canada is off the roof,like 40% of your paycheck...How you wan take save money?

Lastly, there is violence everywhere and tribalism in Nigeria...Cut that out

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:13pm On May 19, 2018
Congrats to Victor Moses.

T won't lie, my heart beat increased when he bent down holding is hand. But thank God he is fine.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 8:15pm On May 19, 2018
AIG07:
Congrats to Victor Moses.

T won't lie, my heart beat increased when he bent down holding is hand. But thank God he is fine.


I reject the spirit of injury
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 8:18pm On May 19, 2018
The Coach has responded to Onyekuru's outburst, ofcourse, he always makes it obvious that he doesn't like the guy.


“He or his entourage should not blame us for his non-selection in the World Cup.
“Henry should check how many international games he missed because of his knee injury.
“He is not ready to play.”
Anderlecht have an agreement to extend his loan stay for one more season, but the coach stressed that a decision has not been taken on whether he will continue at the club.
Asked if Anderlecht will extend the player’s loan deal, Vanhaezebrouck said: “That depends on other options and also on the attitude of the player.”

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:19pm On May 19, 2018
chrisooblog:
hallelujah you have finally pasted it dear bros how many goals did ogbeche score in Ligue 1?

Oga! You have been proven wrong. Kindly move on because how many goals did Ogbeche scored was never initially the bone of contention, rather it was Ogbeche had the same form Simy is currently having prior to the 2002 WC which you falsely claimed was not correct but proven wrong, sorry. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 8:20pm On May 19, 2018
Good evening people.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:25pm On May 19, 2018
ChrisKels:


What fact u talking about bro?

You have suddenly forgotten, ba!

Ok, the fact that you falsely claimed that Raheem Lawal relegated his club to division 2 eventhough Raheem Lawal has been out of action for 3 months due to injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:29pm On May 19, 2018
Joebie:
I don’t argue opinions as regards the Bible. Let’s keep learning more about Jesus. Let me leave u with 2 Corinthians 6:6-7


By the grace of God, it has been demonstrated by me but .... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:32pm On May 19, 2018
Isaac Success is WhoScored MOTM

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:33pm On May 19, 2018
solonnachi:


His world cup dreams are over. Bring in Henry Onyekuru

See dem. But if na me talk am, person no go hear word 4 here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 8:37pm On May 19, 2018
forgiveness:


Oga! You have been proven wrong. Kindly move on because how many goals did Ogbeche scored was never initially the bone of contention, rather it was Ogbeche had the same form Simy is currently having prior to the 2002 WC which you falsely claimed was not correct but proven wrong, sorry. grin
lol yes you are right 7 is the same as 5 continue to deceive yourself if that will help you sleep well at night
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:41pm On May 19, 2018
tbaba1234:
Ebuehi appeared to be limping in his Benfica presentation..

Na we ooo. So Rohr is aware a player is injured yet he is on the list.

I hope the injure will healed before WC!?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:44pm On May 19, 2018
Joebie:
Isaac Success is WhoScored MOTM
And so?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:48pm On May 19, 2018
OMANBALA1:


I am not here to defend America but I will not tell a single story about a country that has blessed me a lot. All you talked about here is everything negative about America and that is not fair. Education should be expensive, at least, good education. You graduate with huge dept hanging on your neck but but its worth it,if not try labor work. Healthcare is expensive for those that dont have good insurance and good insurance comes with decent job... There you have it, there is no such thing as free lunch. Even in Nigeria if you dont have money to pay for hospital bills your family will be left to die!

American dream is a fluke ,you create your own America...If na crack you wan smoke na your business,if you want to be a doctor na inside your pocket. By the way, I heard that taxes in Canada is off the roof,like 40% of your paycheck...How you wan take save money?

Lastly, there is violence everywhere and tribalism in Nigeria...Cut that out

No doubt that the US has its benefits and is much better than Nigeria. However, my point was to simply refute the your statement which is the US is not overrated. The US right now is a shell of what it was years ago. The benefits that the country usually boasts about internationally are simply non-existant. Their middle class is shrinking. Do the research. This is just fact.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:50pm On May 19, 2018
Joebie:
If you would read my earlier post again, you’d realize that this is not a discussion to show who knows more about black history in America. I don’t have to spill out my knowledge about it and how I also learned it in the for corners of university and my extensive research and observation of the people. It’s unecessary. The question remains what are you going to do about it? Learning with the right perspective is important. If you learn history with a view to picturing how damned you are and how there is no way out, to what end? I hope this sums it up.


Ok, if you learn history and realize how your people were exploited and how these exploitation has affected your people and brought them to a deplorable state it will afford you the knowledge of the problems at hand and how to correct them. How many Nigerians are actually proud to be Nigerian and if you claim you are proud to be Nigerian I will ask give me a good reason. Nigerians do not know what it means to be Nigerian because it is a foreign creation,a strange identity nobody knows anything about. Maybe this will elucidate my points.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:51pm On May 19, 2018
Congrats to Vic Mo and Chelsea for their FA Cup win. Another piece of silverware in Vic Mo's CV. More grease to him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:51pm On May 19, 2018
Sorry he is Ghanaian.

MetalJigsaw:
And so?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:54pm On May 19, 2018
Amokachi, Eagles and the road to Russia

History has an uncanny way of vindicating the just. It only takes time. This writer is always unsparing whenever Nigerian coaches handle the Super Eagles, largely because they hardly come clean in the team’s affairs. When they are not picking players on other parameters than current form, they are bullying the younger ones to accept what they couldn’t stomach as players. They create a facade around themselves under the guise of instilling discipline whereas they do worse things, such as engineering players’ revolts when their demands are outstanding.

It is still a misery how coaches who claimed to be instilling discipline in the players come short when it comes to persuading them to back off from such revolts during big competitions, such as the Confederations Cup and the World Cup. These coaches don’t care about the odium they pour on the country with such disgraceful acts for as long as they achieve their goals. The excuse that the federation’s bosses would misappropriate cash amounts to cheap blackmail. Thankfully, the law of retribution catches up with them – Nigeria has never won any competition smeared with such shows of shame.

‘’Conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it.’’ ( Uthman Dan Fodio) This quote rings so true about what transpired in the Super Eagles’ camp in 2014 in the explosive interview which former striker Daniel Amokachi granted AOIFootball.com on the Eagles’ way to the Brazil 2014 World Cup, where Nigeria was eliminated in the second round by France. Of course, the defeat came less than 10 hours after the team and their coaches spent the better part of the night before the match sharing $3.8 million which the Federal Government sent to avert a walkover. The squad threatened to boycott the France game during the revolt in Sao Paulo.

Ordinarily, I would have ignored the report. But AOIFootball.com is the NFF’s official online platform where those who run the federation talk directly to the players and coaches. It was set up, following allegations by players and officials of being misquoted in the media. So, Amokachi couldn’t have been misquoted by the NFF online platform.
Besides, KweseSports and Amokachi are like Siamese twins. They would have whispered into Da Bull’s ears about the gravity of his allegations since the other party to the discussion is dead. He would have authorised the publication. It should, therefore, be discussed, taking only the message not the messenger or the accused.

Going to the World Cup in Brazil, there were tales that suggested a rift among the coaches, with many alleging that one of them forced the players to buy one of his wrist watches as a basis for qualifying to play in the team. It was dismissed as one of the tantrums of the media. But, it was clear that all wasn’t well with the technical crew, considering Amokachi’s pot-shots.

“Brown, for me, was one player that I regret that we did not take to the World Cup in 2014,” Amokachi told KweséESPN, speaking for the first time on Brown Ideye’s shocking exclusion from the Eagles.

“Hundred percent I didn’t know how he didn’t make that list. I never saw it coming that he didn’t make the list till when the list came out and we found out. I think I probably had a lot of fights with some people that I shouldn’t have, but it happened because I saw no reason why such a player should be left out. We ended up going to the World Cup with players that even me I don’t even know,” Amokachi revealed.

“I think it is very tough if a coach is already an agent. It is very, very difficult, and that is why I always say you cannot be a coach and be an agent at the same time.

“When the World Cup comes around, you always have a lot of new players showing up. Players who will decide that they are Nigerians and bring confusion to the team. When you find yourself in that situation, you try to advise, because you have agents that will be calling left, right and centre. If a coach is an agent, he will fall a victim too. Those are things that we really need to avoid. There is no room to be trying new players,” Amokachi concluded.

He didn’t mention those responsible for the decision. But what stands out clearly is that the list was done with the coaches’ consent. And it says a lot on why Nigerian coaches cannot be trusted with such sensitive matters. Isn’t this the reason Nigerian coaches’ actions are vetted by chieftains of the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF), who carry the can when Nigeria fails while the coaches take all the credits in victory?

What makes Amokachi’s revelation more disturbing is that the coaches in the 2014 squad were former Nigeria internationals who also made their marks playing for European teams . They were expected to replicate here the settings they found in Europe. They were also seen to have made enough cash to be able to shun foreign scouts, lobbyists and influence peddlers from the corridors of power.

The KweseESPN report said: ‘’It is a stunning admission by Amokachi, who went on to suggest that outside influences may have played a part in the striker getting cut in favour of players like Michael Uchebo and Uche Nwofor, both of whom had a combined total of six international appearances prior to the World Cup. Four of those combined caps (two each) were in the friendly games just before the squad was named.’’

Sadly, Amokachi didn’t have the guts to name who picked the squad raising doubts about his intentions in granting such a controversial interview. Why did he not cry out when the list was released? Was he scared that he could be dropped from the team? I don’t think so, given Amokachi’s pedigree in the game and his popularity. Who knows, the team could have gone further than they did in Brazil, four years ago.

The NFF should always get coaches to work in harmony. The federation should routinely hold talks with the coaches to gauge how they relate with each other. Except there is a synergy among the coaches, the team would totter during matches.

Amokachi’s poked conscience has compelled him to speak the truth, which is the only way forward. He spoke late but the message wasn’t lost on Eagles manager Gernot Rohr, who rightly dropped Brown Ideye, who has not been a regular in the squad since he took charge.

Rohr’s 30-man list is a departure from the past where at least four names would have been added to the authorised provisional 35-man list by FIFA, where each country would pick its final 23-man squad. Under Nigerian coaches, a horde of players with many unknown to lovers of the game would have been picked under the guise of giving everyone a chance to prove their mettle. This is where the sharp practices which Amokachi highlighted start.

Indeed, I’m still pinching myself to find out if Samson Siasia criticised Rohr’s 30-man squad. If he did, he owes those of us who questioned his selections as Eagles chief coach an apology. Siasia scandalised this writer for daring to criticise his list. Siasia spared no word in deriding coaches and ex-internationals who queried his decisions, especially when the country stood behind Vincent Enyeama, asking Siasia to forgive him. He stood his grounds but paid dearly for it when Nigeria drew 2-2 against Guinea in Abuja. We didn’t qualify for that edition’s Africa Cup of Nations. Siasia got the boot.

Glad to know that Siasia is canvassing the inclusion of Efe Ambrose, four years after his below par outing in Brazil. This is the problem with Nigerian coaches who are eternally committed to players they discovered. Siasia, Junior Ajayi had his time with the Eagles. He appears to be a club player. Besides, he is injury-prone. This is the difference with foreign coaches. they consider factors which our coaches cast an indulgent eye on.

The fixation of Nigerian coaches has killed many enterprising players who rot away because those manning their positions in the Eagles were discovered by the coach. Products of our successful age-grade teams, especially the Golden Eaglets, have melted from our sights like ice-cream under the scorching sun – no thanks to our local coaches’ fixation.

Today, Nigeria is heading for the Mundial with its youngest crop of players. This means that we are building for the future, using the World Cup. If we qualify for the second round, we would have equalled our feats in the last five editions in which we participated.

Nigeria is not alone with her armada of young boys for the Russia 2018 World Cup. England’s 23-man squad isn’t anything different from ours. This means that the two countries will have players ready for the big stage by Qatar 2022. That is the way forward, except that England will see theirs through while Nigeria’s may be destroyed by the diabolical machinations of those fighting to be members of the next NFF board.

http://thenationonlineng.net/amokachi-eagles-and-the-road-to-russia/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:54pm On May 19, 2018
mazimee:
The Coach has responded to Onyekuru's outburst, ofcourse, he always makes it obvious that he doesn't like the guy.


“He or his entourage should not blame us for his non-selection in the World Cup.
“Henry should check how many international games he missed because of his knee injury.
“He is not ready to play.”
Anderlecht have an agreement to extend his loan stay for one more season, but the coach stressed that a decision has not been taken on whether he will continue at the club.
Asked if Anderlecht will extend the player’s loan deal, Vanhaezebrouck said: “That depends on other options and also on the attitude of the player.”

How come you pay attention to full details of Onyekuru's predicament but you find it hard to do likewise for Kayode?

He is not good enough... He failed in the la liga...etcetera are the only things that comes to mind but Onyekuru is hated by his coach.. the coach doesn't like him...the club doesn't want him to go to the WC and that was the reason the coach benched him though he was fit....etcetera...

As for me I know both players predicament hence the need to balance my judgements but ..na was ooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:59pm On May 19, 2018
You learn with a purpose. If it’s stops at the enemy as the target and how evil they are, of what good will it bring? Do you spend generations crying about how you are being held back? Even the thought that u are being held back can enslaven one to just give up, though u can argue it’s a fact. But believing that is more harmful to the mind.

I know where u are heading already with the Nigeria talk. But I will cease from deviating the purpose of this thread



OMANBALA1:


Ok, if you learn history and realize how your people were exploited and how these exploitation has affected your people and brought them to a deplorable state it will afford you the knowledge of the problems at hand and how to correct them. How many Nigerians are actually proud to be Nigerian and if you claim you are proud to be Nigerian I will ask give me a good reason. Nigerians do not know what it means to be Nigerian because it is a foreign creation,a strange identity nobody knows anything about. Maybe this will elucidate my points.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:01pm On May 19, 2018
Hahaha. Who is watching the DFB cup? See drama o. VAR don kill Bayern.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:03pm On May 19, 2018
chrisooblog:
lol yes you are right 7 is the same as 5 continue to deceive yourself if that will help you sleep well at night

From 1 goals to 5 goals...bhuahaha! grin

Ogbech's stats for 17 years old lad, playing for PSG with Ronaldiho, Okocha, Leroy, Heinze, Arteta etc is better than that of Simy's who is 26 years old. Sorry. grin

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