musicwriter:


Historians and Africans should stop using the above word that the British has put in our mouths through indoctrination a.k.a education. The so called punitive expeditions were ''stealing expeditions'' carried out all over the world in their greedy quest for world domination. The right word to use is stealing expedition or war of conquest.

How could it be a punitive expedition; when?

In 1887, the British dethroned king Jaja of Opobo and forced him to exile for refusing to allow British monopoly on commodity trade in his kingdom.

In 1861, the British threatened Oba of Lagos, Oba Dosunmu with war for refusing to sign a treaty surrendering Lagos to them as British protectorate. He later succumbed and gave up Lagos as a British protectorate.

In 1895, the British dethroned king Koko Mingi VIII of Nembe and sent him to exile for refusing to accept an exploitative contract term from the royal Niger company- a British colonial monopoly.

In 1735, a British delegation shot Oba Oresoyen in his palace for being stubborn and refusing to take instruction from Queen of England.

In 1897, the British dethroned Oba Ovonramwen of Bini kingdom and sent him to exile after unsuccessful attempts to lure him to surrender his kingdom to slavery. After he was exiled, the British called a meeting of the community, and in a triumphant tone, they said “you see, your King is gone!. From today, you have only one King and her name is Queen Victoria. Henceforth, she’s the only one you shall pay tributes to”.

In 1894, the British exiled king Nana of Itsekiri to Ghana and took over his oil palm factory and cocoa plantation.

In 1896, the British exiled king Prempeh I of Ashanti kingdom for refusing to offer them 50,000 ounces of gold at once, even as the king was begging them he can pay in installments starting with an initial 680 ounces down payment. The British took the 680 initial deposit from him and reneged from the agreement. Finally, the head of the British expedition ordered king Prempeh to vacate his seat and to sit on the floor. When king Prempeh sat on the floor, he sat on Prempeh's official seat and started verbally abusing the king, the Ashanti kingdom, and black people in general with all sorts of derogatory words. When he was done abusing the king, he asked the king to come forward to kiss his boots (his right and left foot) and the king did so. After humiliating the king in the presence of the whole village, he sent him to exile to Seychelles.

Note that king Prempeh did not owe Britain any gold as he didn’t have any business with them; rather, the British heard his official seat was made of real gold, they got jealous and wanted some of the gold. When Prempeh refused to give them gold, they threatened him to provide gold or have his kingdom invaded. The king under fear of exile signed he would provide the gold, but he didn’t have all of the gold at once.

In 1899, the British exiled king Mwanga II of Buganda a.k.a the Kabaka of Buganda to Seychelles. He was dethroned for refusing to convert to Christianity and also for refusing to sign a treaty with Lord Lugard granting Britain power over taxes in his kingdom and trade to the Imperial British East Africa Company.

In 1899, the British shot and wounded king Kabalega of Bunyoro in his palace for refusing to surrender his kingdom to colonialism. He was exiled to the Seychelles and the British installed a puppet king.

In 1883, the British pressured Oba Awujale Fidipote to exile in Epe, after threatening military invasion of his kingdom.

In 1896, the British sent Queen Yaa Asantewaa to exile to the Seychelles for refusing to submit to imperial rule. Queen Yaa Asantewa fought gallantly and was only defeated by a fortified British expeditionary force.

In 1891, the British dethroned and exiled king Waiyaki Wa Hinga. King Waiyaki had earlier made an agreement with the British to allow them settle peacefully in his land. As usual, the British reneged from the agreement few month later, and wanted everything in his kingdom including his seat. A fight ensued and they hit king Waiyaki with (simi) dagger on his head, and planned to take him to court for prosecution. On the way to the court they changed their mind and decided to bury him alive instead. Till today, nobody knows where they buried him.

In Kenya, Britain beheaded another king. King Hinsa or something like that.

The list of dethroned and exiled African kings is endless. There must have been over 2,500 of such cases as ancient Africa was ruled by kings. Every single African king had to be dethroned or exiled for his kingdom to be enslaved. The French, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese, also have their share of these crimes in Africa.

Details at open letter to African kings and traditional rulers http://www.africason.com/2017/03/open-letter-to-african-kings.html

if the British could do these u listed up there and get away with it, then the African juju are fake

akeensbussy:

if the British could do these u listed up there and get away with it, then the African juju are fake

Bross JUJU nah for poor and weak people!
if not tell me what PMB is still doing aliv

Sarkin:
Or sold.

IPOB AND CRIMES...

SINCE 1804 THEY HAVE BEEN SELLING THEIR PEOPLE AND EVEN THEMSELVES.

IPOB kwa? Edo?
do you even know the history of Edo/Benin?

erico2k2:

Plz when was the last time you went to the Benin Museum? I was there two years ago, when did you last go there?
FYI part of the Moat is still visible, the present govt is trying really hard to rejuvenate its past historical stand
PS I not from Edo but just like its rich heritage as regards History.

Am benin and i would say benin is leaving on past glory in the world ....just go to igun were all this art were made the leave in penury...

As for historical renovation is actually zero my friend the moat is almost closed up..the government has not done anything to bring it back or maintain it ...since the Benin walls were destroyed by the british it wasn't even built again ...the moat is been used as sewage and refuse dump in the entire city...a moat that was once recongnised in guiness book of record...if proper maintance was done on this moat if its well exibited to the world i bet everyone will want to come to the place that made the beautiful art to see its moat or walls ...it will create so much mobey for the state...nevertheless to do such work on this tourism it requires billions of money not the one ge is doing....

For the art to be returned i say no...keep it till will developed to have it back

I think,is been TRADE In slaving period then.

Mrchippychappy:
This thread shows that truly Nigerian youths are uneducated, lazy and doomed. How can people possible suggest that the British keep the loot that they stole from the Benin empire? historic artifacts that the British empire stole from Africa, our rich cultural heritage was destroyed and re-written by the same British who went about peddling lies that Sub Sahara Africa had absolutely no form of civilization and yet you want them to keep hiding artifacts that show that we did have some form of civilization! do some of you even listen to yourselves before you comment? are these comments just for laughs or are these actually your views on this issue? Nigerian youths abeg forget Big brother, Davido, Chioma, Wizkid, Instagram and get an education.

The problem here is obvious. Though educated, a MAJORITY of Nigerian youths are SIMPLE MINDED ( not a compliment) and only attained education because their parents wanted them to, and because there career demands some form of educational qualification. I wouldn't say I am disappointed however, I have always known this. Most of them do not know that Africa was raped, ravaged and plundered, to the point of atrocious crimes against humanity, when in a bid to cover their acts, the West decided to not only rob us of our resources, but also our identity and history. After-all, there is a saying which goes thus. You don't know where you are going, if you don't know where you are coming
They stole ALL documented records of our history, that should have been passed on to on coming generations, took it back to their lands, studied us in a bid to master world domination, then told lies that we couldn't write or document historic event upon first contact with them. Did the same for artificats, and branded us SAVAGES. This dumb generation, might not know the implications of what the West did, but it is what Africa is currently suffering. The Arabs and their kind call you descendants of slaves, The West call you savages, The Asians who tend to take a more relaxed less racist stance still stigmatize association with blacks. All thanks and due to the NARRATIVE of the WEST! An instance I will rather not divulge, but would mention to paint a visual picture is this. Growing up most of the guys who did menial jobs for my family were Ghanaian, which was due to their country experiencing some form of economic challenges at the time. From the Carpenter, to the Mechanic, the tailor, and even the puff-puff seller etc. These were not jobs to be ashamed of, but I am trying to stress a point here. At a point in my life, as a child, I thought of Ghanaians less than Nigerians, but as I grew up and became wiser I realized that we were all equal. It will however interest you to know that yesterday, I saw Sakordies post on instagram where he proclaimed a certain DJ Mensah the best dj in Africa. I smiled and said to myself best DJ for where? Ghana wey dey sell puff-puff best dj. I apologize to any Ghanaian reading this, I felt bad after I said that....... But this is just an example of why the world will ALWAYS and forever view Black people as inferior beings, possessing sub-humans intelligence. IT'S DUE TO WHAT THE LYING CAUCASIAN RACE TOLD THEM, after stealing EVERYTHING from us.

akeensbussy:

if the British could do these u listed up there and get away with it, then the African juju are fake

And you think Artifacts are all just juju? Is that all you could deduce from ALL he had written?
It is sad!

erico2k2:

I think it does, I sure you can see where he is coming from. The British are bad like that and yes the Romans took loads, The Romans are the Brits too!

It makes no sense because you can't accuse another group of the same thing your ancestor did.
Powerful "African" kingdoms were not merciful to their neighbours but I have never seen anyone
showing concern.

Xisnin:

It makes no sense because you can't accuse another group of the same thing your ancestor did.
Powerful "African" kingdoms were not merciful to their neighbours but I have never seen anyone
showing concern.

we are talking paintings, sculptures of historical significance, who in Africa has any belonging to Nigerians??in these context!

phreakabit:


And you think Artifacts are all just juju? Is that all you could deduce from ALL he had written?
It is sad!

Sad and pathetic!

erico2k2:

we are talking paintings, sculptures of historical significance, who in Africa has any belonging to Nigerians??in these context!

My brother abeg school dat donkey. Im no get sense at all.

Xisnin:

It makes no sense because you can't accuse another group of the same thing your ancestor did.
Powerful "African" kingdoms were not merciful to their neighbours but I have never seen anyone
showing concern.

Powerful Caucasian civilizations conquered and plundered lesser know Caucasian civilizations.
Same was done in Asia, as in the Middle East, and everywhere else.
However, you do not see the items they STOLE being displayed in their Museums now do you?
Want to know why? They never took them. All they were after was the gold and riches those kingdom had to offer.
Which is why the barbarian tribes who destroyed the Roman empire were called THE VANDALS.
Because they destroyed and laid waste to everything the Romans had created, after taking all the gold and riches.
Those Artifacts were/are the missing piece in our history.

Mrchippychappy:

My brother God bless you, at least you are one of the few that can still reason properly. This thread shows that truly Nigerian youths are uneducated, lazy and doomed. How can people possible suggest that the British keep the loot that they stole from the Benin empire? historic artifacts that the British empire stole from Africa, our rich cultural heritage was destroyed and re-written by the same British who went about peddling lies that Sub Sahara Africa had absolutely no form of civilization and yet you want them to keep hiding artifacts that show that we did have some form of civilization! do some of you even listen to yourselves before you comment? are these comments just for laughs or are these actually your views on this issue? and to think that these ignorant posts are accumulating the highest number of likes on this thread, God save Nigeria and its youths. Nigerian youths abeg forget Big brother, Davido, Chioma, Wizkid, Instagram and get an education.
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Another victim spotted. It is clear that you didn't address the topic and your
post was more about throwing insults at others.
In which language were you educated? Benin?

It is hypocritical to condemn the British just because they have a written history of
the bad deeds they did. We don't even know what your ancestors did to their
neighbours, but they are saint because we don't know.

Even if a million artefacts were returned to Nigeria, it would change nothing.
Nigerians won't stop being christian or muslim, they wouldn't even drop any
of their adopted western culture and practices and we won't suddenly become
another China.

One problem with victim mentality is that it enslaves those who carry it while
they think they are free.
It is unfortunate that we are still struggling to get back our cultural artefacts in
the 21st century when every other group's priority is technological advancement.
SMH.

gypsey:
so why has it not caused or Added any spiritual problems in England? Nigerians and their stupid, dumb and gullible superstitious believes.

our nigerian Ancestors managed to survive without all these spiritual, Church and christianity bull shiitts!! herdsmen are busy killing nigerians and you are worried about pieces of wooden sculptors. while the real problem lays in your back yard.

You cannot compare the spiritual force of tbe UK and Nigeria. One is greater thsn the other. Use your head!

Sarkin:
Or sold.

IPOB AND CRIMES...

SINCE 1804 THEY HAVE BEEN SELLING THEIR PEOPLE AND EVEN THEMSELVES.

MODIFED: MANY IPOB YOOTS HAVE CORRECTED ME. I'M SURE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT STOLE AND SOLD THEM THO.

We will soon come and steal you and sell you to North Koreans ( Obodo OMA).

dermmy:


Are you joking? These things are pointers to our past civilization because the white man would always say Africans have no history/civilization now u are saying it would add to our spiritual problem. What is Spiritual about these things? So sad too bad. I blame our leaders for this they should have made history compulsory for everyone, Africans don't know their history and past civilization

your points has been observed

OneKinGuy:

You cannot compare the spiritual force of tbe UK and Nigeria. One is greater thsn the other. Use your head!

Really? how did you come to this conclusions? i am guessing you have met both countries spirits and their forces

Printerscanner:


Is it creating problems for the British?

no spiritual force in Britain

OneKinGuy:
Returning it back to Nigeria will just add more spiritual problems for us. Lets just leave it there for the time being

lilyheaven:

precisely!

MrsNwaAmaikpe:


Honestly, those artworks look beautiful and adorable in the British Museum.

Nevertheless, anything stolen by a thief no matter its worth, will be worth less in the palace of the thief



Return those art works to Benin and watch them glitter with importance and value

The same necessary value that wasn't awarded before some of it was sold/stolen?

Take it or leave it, it looks more attractive and valuable in the British Museum than it's previous residence.

phreakabit:


Powerful Caucasian civilizations conquered and plundered lesser know Caucasian civilizations.
Same was done in Asia, as in the Middle East, and everywhere else.
However, you do not see the items they STOLE being displayed in their Museums now do you?
Want to know why? They never took them. All they were after was the gold and riches those kingdom had to offer.
Which is why the barbarian tribes who destroyed the Roman empire were called THE VANDALS.
Because they destroyed and laid waste to everything the Romans had created, after taking all the gold and riches.
Those Artifacts were/are the missing piece in our history.

You know little about history, every major civilised power in the recent past has some form of artefact
to show for it. A little digging will convince you.
Guess what, the artefacts are not a missing piece of our history if they were we won't even be talking
about it. And even the ones that were not "stolen", how many people do you think troop to check them
out?
You will be surprised at the indifference most people show to these things which you think are part of
our missing history. After all who cares about idols of the past.

Xisnin:


Another victim spotted. It is clear that you didn't address the topic and your
post was more about throwing insults at others.
In which language were you educated? Benin?

It is hypocritical to condemn the British just because they have a written history of
the bad deeds they did. We don't even know what your ancestors did to their
neighbours, but they are saint because we don't know.

Even if a million artefacts were returned to Nigeria, it would change nothing.
Nigerians won't stop being christian or muslim, they wouldn't even drop any
of their adopted western culture and practices and we won't suddenly become
another China.

One problem with victim mentality is that it enslaves those who carry it while
they think they are free.
It is unfortunate that we are still struggling to get back our cultural artefacts in
the 21st century when every other group's priority is technological advancement.
SMH.

An absolute dolt, possessing the intelligence of a drunken demented MONKEY spotted!
You write as though their is a visible cord, running from your azs-hole to your brain.
I hate arguing with dimwits. No one has said anything about turning to pagans or animists.
He is simply stating that what was STOLEN be returned the same way fraud and drug money acquired by Africans are returned to Europe and America. An action they refuse to reciprocate when corrupt politicians wealth are confiscated by them.

Xisnin:


You know little about history, every major civilised power in the recent past has some form of artefact
to show for it. A little digging will convince you.
Guess what, the artefacts are not a missing piece of our history if they were we won't even be talking
about it. And even the ones that were not "stolen", how many people do you think troop to check them
out?
You will be surprised at the indifference most people show to these things which you think are part of
our missing history. After all who cares about idols of the past.

You think this is about Idols? You really do?
Are we going to worship things we know nothing about?
Did you read my lengthy initial post ?
Have you been on pro-white supremacist forums to see what they say about us?
They stole our written documents and said we NEVER had any form of writing, but yet they can't explain NSIBIDI which cuts across Igbo and Efik/Ibibio lands.

EzendiEgo1:
What kind of stupidity is this Afonja displaying.

So they should return what brings huge revenue to British Government.

I think guy is really stupid besides this is how they always claims what is not theirs.

Our Artifacts Nigeria Government stolen from us during Biafra war have they return it.


Stupid Afonja's

you see how you successfully made a fool of your entire linage? so Benin is afonja again?

phreakabit:


An absolute dolt, possessing the intelligence of a drunken demented MONKEY spotted!
You write as though their is a visible cord, running from your azs-hole to your brain.
I hate arguing with dimwits. No one has said anything about turning to pagans or animists.
He is simply stating that what was STOLEN be returned the same way fraud and drug money acquired by Africans are returned to Europe and America. An action they refuse to reciprocate when corrupt politicians wealth are confiscated by them.

You had to use three sentences to hurl insults, that shows how dumb you are.
I don't engage in shouting competitions, that is for your fellow touts. Mention me,
when you are ever ready to defend your position without insult or emotional rants.

HeyCorleone:
Maybe we should buy paintings and works of Europeans and display it in our museum.

Do you have the money to manage such a museum?

millomaniac:


Please let them hold it for us until we fix our leadership over here. No need to bring it back only for it to disappear this time the location will be unknown.

Savage

akeensbussy:

if the British could do these u listed up there and get away with it, then the African juju are fake

Maybe because the value is not known by then, but not withstanding, should we say they voluntarily with no harm decided to go through those nonefair treatment?
I think I wonder the same way you are.

jboy73:
Yes.
They should be left there.
We can't manage them... If they were in Africa, by now it would have been used as fire food to roast bush meat.

see ur shallow thinking...they were in oba palace for over 300 yrs before British stole them

kaluxy007:
It was sold to them


I can bet all my money on it






Even though na 3k dey my akant

it wasn't sold they were stolen

loomer:
na stolen or collected?

stolen

martineverest:
see ur shallow thinking...they were in oba palace for over 300 yrs before British stole them

Man, I tire for all these people oh.
Thank you for saying the truth.
Indeed we live in an age of brain dead intellectuals.
A lot of people have been brainwashed by the Caucasians.
Glad to see some of us head still dey there.