On Monday, July 17, the Russian Supreme Court rejected an appeal of an earlier ruling sanctioning Jehovah’s Witnesses as an extremist group. As a last ditch effort, Russian Jehovah’s Witnesses intend to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. But, as of now, Jehovah’s Witness gatherings and preaching are criminal offenses in Russia. The Russian government also has the legal authority to liquidate any property held by Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organization.

There are over eight million Jehovah’s Witnesses in 240 countries worldwide. Russia, with a population of more than 150 million, has a total of 117,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses – one Jehovah’s Witness per 850 people.

Who are Jehovah’s Witnesses, and why would the Russian, or any, government consider them to be a threat?
A history of persecution

Jehovah’s Witnesses have no political affiliations, and they renounce violence. However, they make an easy target for governments looking for internal enemies, as they refuse to bow down to government symbols. Many nationalists call them “enemies of the state.”

As a result, they have often suffered persecution throughout history in many parts of the world.

Jehovah’s Witnesses were jailed as draft evaders in the U.S. during both world wars. In a Supreme Court ruling in 1940, school districts were allowed to expel Jehovah’s Witnesses who refused to salute the American flag. Through subsequent legal battles in the 1940s and 1950s, Jehovah Witnesses helped expand safeguards for religious liberty and freedom of conscience both in the United States and Europe.

In Nazi Germany, Jehovah’s Witnesses were killed in concentration camps; a purple triangle was used by the Nazis to mark them. In the 1960s and ‘70’s, scores of African Jehovah’s Witnesses were slaughtered by members of The Youth League of the Malawi Congress Party for refusing to support dictator Hastings Banda. Many Witnesses fled to neighboring Mozambique, where they were held in internment camps.

Now it is Russia.

The Russian Supreme Court maintains that the country needs to be protected from disloyal religious fanatics.

But given their commitment to God above all things, Jehovah’s Witnesses see themselves as being persecuted by those who value loyalty to country over any other principle. They also believe that the Russian government has “trampled on the guarantees of their own laws.”

Many Jehovah’s Witnesses still attach a great importance to dates. Many Jehovah’s Witnesses are filled with foreboding, as April 20, the day the Russian Supreme Court first ruled against them, is also the birthday of Adolf Hitler.

Their memories of persecution have not faded with time.

Full Report: http://theconversation.com/why-russia-is-afraid-of-jehovahs-witnesses-77077

They should stop nocking at people's doors and disturbing them

AgentOfDarkness:
They should stop nocking at people's doors and disturbing them

Thank you! That's exactly what the Pharisees were telling the first century Christians to do "stop knocking at people's doors and disturbing them" but the Christians said they'll "obey God as ruler rather than men" Act 5:28,29 compared to Matthew 10:28 Please Sir/Ma are you for Jesus or against Jesus?

Riofidelio:
Thank you! That's exactly what the Pharisees were telling the first century Christians to do "stop knocking at people's doors and disturbing them" but the Christians said they'll "obey God as ruler rather than men" Act 5:28,29 compared to Matthew 10:28 Please Sir/Ma are you for Jesus or against Jesus?

The Jehova witness don't believe that Jesus is Christ


I'm not for or against Jesus and I have nothing to do with Jesus or His Father all I say is stop disturbing people

The group has earned distrust from many governments because of their perceived lack of patriotism.

They are leeches in that they enjoy security guaranteed by millitary and police yet they don't participate in such because it is against their shiet faith.

Russia is paranoid of religious minorities and JW are targeted because the sect originated from America. The Russo-American tensions are not helping.

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The Jehova witness don't believe that Jesus is Christ


I'm not for or against Jesus, all I say is stop disturbing people
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I am not a Witness, but if you want to lie against them, look for more tenable lies. They believe Jesus is the Christ, and they have more intelligent publications than even mainstream christian bodies proving that Jesus is Christ.

M0ron:
The group has earned distrust from many governments because of their perceived lack of patriotism.

They are leeches in that they enjoy security guaranteed by millitary and police yet they don't participate in such because it is against their shiet faith.

Russia is paranoid of religious minorities and JW are targeted because the sect originated from America. The Russo-American tensions are not helping.

..True.

[quote author=adelee777 post=67684523][/quote]You don't know what this cult preaches. If you do, you can't call them Christians. Except they've also philosophised you. Their preaching of the gospel is basically philosophy with which it's impossible to please God and accept His foolishness which is far above man's wisdom/philosophy

JusticeSeeker:
You don't know what this cult preaches. If you do, you can't call them Christians. Except they've also philosophised you. Their preaching of the gospel is basically philosophy with which it's impossible to please God and accept His foolishness which is far above man's wisdom/philosophy

Christianity is relative. Is the RCCG christian?

AgentOfDarkness:




The Jehova witness don't believe that Jesus is Christ


I'm not for or against Jesus, all I say is stop disturbing people

Well permit me to say you're totally wrong Sir because i'm one of Jehovah's witnesses and our fundamental belief is that "Jesus is Lord or Christ"! What you should have asked is "what is the meaning of Christ and Christian?" That's where we disagree with most people claiming Christians! Many people don't know what being a Christian entails that's why there are so many conflicting and contradicting religious beliefs in the name of Christianity! Please let's reason together to ascertain what Christ and Christian mean, God bless you.

M0ron:
The group has earned distrust from many governments because of their perceived lack of patriotism.

They are leeches in that they enjoy security guaranteed by millitary and police yet they don't participate in such because it is against their shiet faith.

Russia is paranoid of religious minorities and JW are targeted because the sect originated from America. The Russo-American tensions are not helping.

Sir, do you think a Christian can truly be PATRIOTIC and at the same time maintain his/her Faith in Christ? Well please correct me where i needed a correction! Christians must not carry weapons. Matthew 26:52 Christians must not support partially and it's in the interest of greedy politicians that you're asked to carry weapons to kill your neighbor in another country simply because there's rift between the politicians, how do think Jesus will feel if you're going to kill your Christian brothers and sisters in another country at the command of greedy politicians? Come on my friend this people have formed demonic phrases to insight you into killing innocent neighbors who have done you no wrong! Take for example Nebuchadnezzar was the First World leader who initiated the National Anthem and other nations started forming their own all in the name of "patriotism". Please you can recite it or the pledge again and meditate thoroughly if a Christian can do what they're inducing you to take as an oath? For example you must be faithful loyal and honest to a particular land and not to God! Even at that can you fulfill such promises? As a Christian if i see anything that will dent the image of Nigeria i mustn't pass by if i truly want to be "faithful loyal and honest to Nigeria my country!" Can you do that without always having troubles all the days of your life? And why must you when God's word clearly says that everywhere belongs to God? Jesus told His own followers to "flee to another place" do you think such would make any sense if they're to be patriotic? Remember a Christian must not take an oath that he/she knows surely that he/she can't fulfill due to Faith! Sorry we're not part of the world that Satan is manipulating to hate and kill one another!

JusticeSeeker:
You don't know what this cult preaches. If you do, you can't call them Christians. Except they've also philosophised you. Their preaching of the gospel is basically philosophy with which it's impossible to please God and accept His foolishness which is far above man's wisdom/philosophy

Philosophy! Hmmmmmmmmm well if you say a single group claiming Christians have based their doctrines on philosophy in the midst of thousands of other religious groups who equally have contradicting and conflicting religious beliefs, what would you say regarding countless remaining groups? On what bases do they lay their beliefs? Can you sincerely say all these rival religious groups claiming Christians based their doctrines on the Bible except ONLY Jehovah's witnesses? Well think about what happened during Jesus' days, there were hundreds of schools of thought in Israel and despite their contradictions they all formed alliance against Jesus and His followers saying Jesus is a cultist from Satan! Matthew 10:22-25,Luke 11:15 So if only Jesus and His group were antagonized back then, do you think Satan who always gather great crowds of enemies against God's people is no more at work? Remember Jesus said His followers will be hated by all people(Matthew 10:22) so if you truly believe in Him you should have a rethink over the ONLY single organization that's vilified all over the world! God bless you.

Riofidelio:
Sir, do you think a Christian can truly be PATRIOTIC and at the same time maintain his/her Faith in Christ? Well please correct me where i needed a correction! Christians must not carry weapons. Matthew 26:52 Christians must not support partially and it's in the interest of greedy politicians that you're asked to carry weapons to kill your neighbor in another country simply because there's rift between the politicians, how do think Jesus will feel if you're going to kill your Christian brothers and sisters in another country at the command of greedy politicians? Come on my friend this people have formed demonic phrases to insight you into killing innocent neighbors who have done you no wrong! Take for example Nebuchadnezzar was the First World leader who initiated the National Anthem and other nations started forming their own all in the name of "patriotism". Please you can recite it or the pledge again and meditate thoroughly if a Christian can do what they're inducing you to take as an oath? For example you must be faithful loyal and honest to a particular land and not to God! Even at that can you fulfill such promises? As a Christian if i see anything that will dent the image of Nigeria i mustn't pass by if i truly want to be "faithful loyal and honest to Nigeria my country!" Can you do that without always having troubles all the days of your life? And why must you when God's word clearly says that everywhere belongs to God? Jesus told His own followers to "flee to another place" do you think such would make any sense if they're to be patriotic? Remember a Christian must not take an oath that he/she knows surely that he/she can't fulfill due to Faith! Sorry we're not part of the world that Satan is manipulating to hate and kill one another!

You are high on weed and stupidity

You enjoy a semblance of peace and tranquility because someone took up arms to protect you.

If you think you don’t need arms to be at peace then please go and start spreading your garbage in Somalia

M0ron:


You are high on weed and stupidity

You enjoy a semblance of peace and tranquility because someone took up arms to protect you.

If you think you don’t need arms to be at peace then please go and start spreading your garbage in Somalia

You enjoy a semblance of peace and tranquility because someone took up arms to protect you. What a moronic, shortsighted, selfish, material, faithless, thankless and ungrateful generation of young men. your pastors think and taught you that they enjoy semblance of peace - not because Jesus decreed it, but - because someone took up arms. SMH. No wonder many will perish by the sword.

With a spiritual blockage on your thinking, you'll never see that this is the world that you and your father have been allowed, so that the father of Christians can be vindicated and that no true peace and justice can be achieved by any one apart from Jesus. Faithless crap

M0ron:


You are high on weed and stupidity

You enjoy a semblance of peace and tranquility because someone took up arms to protect you.

If you think you don’t need arms to be at peace then please go and start spreading your garbage in Somalia

We're Christians Sir,the only thing we try to defend with deep respect by the words of our mouth is our Faith which is of no value to politicians who promotes killings amongst people but apart from our Faith there's NOTHING else to defend So the instruction from our Master Lord and King is "flee to another place" and continue with our preaching and teaching activities.Matthew 10:23 Therefore there's nothing a Christian will go and do in war turn areas like Somalia since the politicians have brainwashed the people to kill one another, of course they won't welcome peacemakers like us. God bless you.

AgentOfDarkness:




The Jehova witness don't believe that Jesus is Christ


I'm not for or against Jesus, all I say is stop disturbing people

u are wrong, they do believe that Jesus is Christ

Riofidelio:
We're Christians Sir,the only thing we try to defend with deep respect by the words of our mouth is our Faith which is of no value to politicians who promotes killings amongst people but apart from our Faith there's NOTHING else to defend So the instruction from our Master Lord and King is "flee to another place" and continue with our preaching and teaching activities.Matthew 10:23 Therefore there's nothing a Christian will go and do in war turn areas like Somalia since the politicians have brainwashed the people to kill one another, of course they won't welcome peacemakers like us. God bless you.

You are not Christians in any sense but a bunch of hypocrites with ever evolving beliefs. Again you refuse to take up arms yet you enjoy the peace and tranquility earned by those who do

enimooko:


You enjoy a semblance of peace and tranquility because someone took up arms to protect you. What a moronic, shortsighted, selfish, material, faithless, thankless and ungrateful generation of young men. your pastors think and taught you that they enjoy semblance of peace - not because Jesus decreed it, but - because someone took up arms. SMH. No wonder many will perish by the sword.

With a spiritual blockage on your thinking, you'll never see that this is the world that you and your father have been allowed, so that the father of Christians can be vindicated and that no true peace and justice can be achieved by any one apart from Jesus. Faithless crap

Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Somalia for over 30yrs?

Didn’t Jesus declare peace?
What about northern Nigeria?

M0ron:


Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Somalia for over 30yrs?

Didn’t Jesus declare peace?
What about northern Nigeria?

Well let's reason together. Isaiah 1:18 Jesus' command "don't carry weapons!" is ONLY for those who accept Him as their repurchaser or Lord so why did Jesus give such an order in a world that's full of vicious and heartless murderers? It's because God's judgment is coming upon those who are wicked and a true believer need not to join them out of fear or bid to protect himself.Psalm 37:7-11 compared to Matthew 10:28 If everyone today agreed to drop all weapons as ordered by Jesus, what else do you think could lead to killings? So it's because most people still believes in weapons that the world is not having that peace today! Matthew 26:52 Sorry we're no part of them! John 17:16

Riofidelio:
Well let's reason together. Isaiah 1:18 Jesus' command "don't carry weapons!" is ONLY for those who accept Him as their repurchaser or Lord so why did Jesus give such an order in a world that's full of vicious and heartless murderers? It's because God's judgment is coming upon those who are wicked and a true believer need not to join them out of fear or bid to protect himself.Psalm 37:7-11 compared to Matthew 10:28 If everyone today agreed to drop all weapons as ordered by Jesus, what else do you think could lead to killings? So it's because most people still believes in weapons that the world is not having that peace today! Matthew 26:52 Sorry we're no part of them! John 17:16

Nope,they did carry weapons

M0ron:

Nope,they did carry weapons

You're right my friend, there has been many during the dark ages who claims to be Christians and yet do go to wars! But the truth is that "they are not Christians". Let's reason together from the scriptures, God promised that the Messiah is coming and He will teach US the way of Holiness, God's prophets talked about how pure worship will operate throughout the Earth after the coming of the Messiah (Christ). Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:2-4 Notice that after these prophets have said people will troop to God's Holy mountain to learn HIS ways, no laws was mentioned EXCEPT that those who went there will not learn wars anymore! Malachi also said in the final part of the days those practicing pure worship will be discussing with their neighbors about God's standards and this will serve as the sign of pure worship during that time! Malachi 3:16-18. Jesus commissioned a preaching and teaching program and said His followers will have LOVE amongst themselves.Matthew 10:3-26,28:19,20 John 13:35 Please if a Christian now carries a weapon to go to war, who is he going to kill? Remember that Christians came to worship God on that Holy mountain from all countries! Isaiah 2:4 Please Sir true Christians have no reason to carry weapons again now!

Riofidelio:
You're right my friend, there has been many during the dark ages who claims to be Christians and yet do go to wars! But the truth is that "they are not Christians". Let's reason together from the scriptures, God promised that the Messiah is coming and He will teach US the way of Holiness, God's prophets talked about how pure worship will operate throughout the Earth after the coming of the Messiah (Christ). Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:2-4 Notice that after these prophets have said people will troop to God's Holy mountain to learn HIS ways, no laws was mentioned EXCEPT that those who went there will not learn wars anymore! Malachi also said in the final part of the days those practicing pure worship will be discussing with their neighbors about God's standards and this will serve as the sign of pure worship during that time! Malachi 3:16-18. Jesus commissioned a preaching and teaching program and said His followers will have LOVE amongst themselves.Matthew 10:3-26,28:19,20 John 13:35 Please if a Christian now carries a weapon to go to war, who is he going to kill? Remember that Christians came to worship God on that Holy mountain from all countries! Isaiah 2:4 Please Sir true Christians have no reason to carry weapons again now!

I’m talking about the disciples

Luke 22:36

M0ron:

I’m talking about the disciples

Luke 22:36

The time left wasn't sufficient enough for their teacher to teach them all that's necessary so Jesus seized the opportunity to quickly teach them another lesson. Imagine there was no swords with them when they were attacked won't they feel that it's lack of swords that rendered them defenceless? Luke 22:49-51 Jesus used that opportunity to teach them another lesson that Christians aren't fighting against flesh and blood. Matthew 26:52 compared to Ephesians 6:12 If Christians are to carry weapons of course we'll aim at what's visible to the sight "flesh and blood" because that's the target of all those who go about with weapons!

Riofidelio:
The time left wasn't sufficient enough for their teacher to teach them all that's necessary so Jesus seized the opportunity to quickly teach them another lesson. Imagine there was no swords with them when they were attacked won't they feel that it's lack of swords that rendered them defenceless? Luke 22:49-51 Jesus used that opportunity to teach them another lesson that Christians aren't fighting against flesh and blood. Matthew 26:52 compared to Ephesians 6:12 If Christians are to carry weapons of course we'll aim at what's visible to the sight "flesh and blood" because that's the target of all those who go about with weapons!

Stop hallucinating. Whoever cheated you that time was not enough is a bloody fool. You mean Jesus was caught unawares by his own arrest yet He knew about it beforehand or he was a miserable time manager like yourself?

He asked them to bear weapons inside whatever time he had. EOD

M0ron:



Stop hallucinating. Whoever cheated you that time was not enough is a bloody fool. You mean Jesus was caught unawares by his own arrest yet He knew about it beforehand or he was a miserable time manager like yourself?

He asked them to bear weapons inside whatever time he had. EOD

Oh please don't be offended Sir, if you want me to be silent just stop asking things relating to my Faith! Because i'll continue to tell you why i believe and trust in Jesus' commands.Matthew 10:19 compared to Isaiah 54:17 However Jesus wasn't caught unaware that's why He quickly seized the opportunity to teach His HUMBLE followers not to carry weapons anymore,i told you He still had many things to teach those honesthearted,humble and virtuous Jews following Him.John 16:12,13 But if you believe in weapons you can by one and keep it,as for true Christians our prayers for our enemies is for them to gain Salvation because we know they have a zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge.Romans 10:1-4

Riofidelio:
Oh please don't be offended Sir, if you want me to be silent just stop asking things relating to my Faith! Because i'll continue to tell you why i believe and trust in Jesus' commands.Matthew 10:19 compared to Isaiah 54:17 However Jesus wasn't caught unaware that's why He quickly seized the opportunity to teach His HUMBLE followers not to carry weapons anymore,i told you He still had many things to teach those honesthearted,humble and virtuous Jews following Him.John 16:12,13 But if you believe in weapons you can by one and keep it,as for true Christians our prayers for our enemies is for them to gain Salvation because we know they have a zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge.Romans 10:1-4

Did Jesus ask them tu buy 2 swords?

M0ron:


Did Jesus ask them tu buy 2 swords?

Yes Sir! But He never thought them how to use it like other leaders if a Christian should use a weapon to kill someone today he need to ask himself "did Jesus taught me this?" because we're to imitate whatever we find him doing,instead He taught them NEVER to lead by the sword (Matthew 26:52) and to always pray for their enemies (Matthew 5:44) that's why we came to conclude that Jesus wanted to used the sword to teach them another important lesson Sir!

Riofidelio:
Yes Sir! But He never thought them how to use it like other leaders,instead He taught them NEVER to lead by the sword (Matthew 26:52) and to always pray for their enemies (Matthew 5:44) that's why we came to conclude that Jesus wanted to used the sword to teach them another important lesson Sir!

So what were they to be used for? Carpentry?

M0ron:


So what were they to be used for? Carpentry?

Today Sir your child in the chemistry class could carry highly destructive CHEMICALS or ACIDS,of course you're sure you never taught your child to harm people so it must be to teach him/her something related to chemistry. The ONLY way Jesus can instill in the minds of His Jewish followers is to allow them have swords but never to use it even at the cost of their lives! That's why you can NEVER read in the Bible where Christians do anything by force or with the use of weapons despite all that the Jews did to them!

M0ron:


Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Somalia for over 30yrs?
Didn’t Jesus declare peace?
What about northern Nigeria?

Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Northern Ireland for over 30yrs?

Didn’t your pastors declare peace?
What about South Southern Nigeria?

M0ron:

I’m talking about the disciples

Luke 22:36

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enimooko:
Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Northern Ireland for over 30yrs?

Didn’t your pastors declare peace?
What about South Southern Nigeria?

Buffoon please understand where the rhetorical question came from