Other health workers should be obedient to doctors who is their Superiors.

They shld not aspire to be consultants bc it's only for doctors in a hospital setting.

Juhesu shld allow the existing salary ratio bw them and doctors, n stop asking for salary increment as dt means automatic increment for doctors.

Juhesu members shld go and read medicine if they want to be treated as doctors or quit trying.

We all kw dt juhesu members could not score high in jamb n d4 had to settle for their fate, good news is dt they can still go back to school n read medicine.

Let the government treat each institution as professionals entity without allowing interfer with each other. Nurses are professionals not surbodinates,. To me this is nothing but show of arrogance and ignorance.

Jman06:
By sacking the minister of health and appointing an unbiased healthcare administrator who is not a medical doctor.

By sacking all the Chief medical directors of our public hospitals and appointing unbiased managers with qualifications in Management.

By creating separate directorates for the different professional groups rendering expert services in the hospitals e.g, directorate of medical services (to be headed by a physician), directorate of nursing services to be headed by a nurse, directorate of pharmaceutical services to be headed by a Pharmacist, directorate of med lab services to be headed by a medical lab scientist etc.

All the heads of directorate will enjoy equal rights and privileges and will be answerable to the Manager.

The different professional groups should be given the opportunity to grow in their fields and earn a decent living just as what obtains in the international community.

C'est finis!

Ugomba:
I just learnt that the health workers are on strike,
I have been researching about the issue,
I am in the law profession. so I am neutral here,
Tell us how this issue of N.M.A Vs Johesu can be solved,
Make a suggestion on how the mess in the health sector can be cleared up.
Let's hear your opinions

DOCTORS ALWAYS TRY TO LORD OVER OTHER HEALTH WORKERS IN THE SECTOR. IT'S NOT SO IN WESTERN WORLD.

Adopt YAHAYA AHMED report,or choose technocrats to go n see what obtains in UK,US ,AUSTRALIA and other developed countries. If both parties are not satisfied yet,privatize the health sector.

For me o, the best approach to tackle this Health Sector crisis is to Select Stake holders from Each of the Professions in the health Sector, send them to the UK where our politicians and rich men usually run to,together with the Government Reps for them to learn, ask questions and be tutored on how the NHS trust UK works. Then come back home and implement the template.

Privatization!

Privatization!!

Privatization!!!

Privatize the health sector! Simple...
Health will be very expensive and the poor may not afford it after this but sanity will be restored!
Privatize the health sector!!!

xreal:


Do you know the rigours pharmacist go through before being certified? Same goes to medical health records professionals who renew their certificates every year (either employed or not).

Relate with the physiotherapist, Radiologist and you will know how vital their role is in the hospital.

Don't let us mention nurses.

Being a medical doctor is by choice, just as being a medical laboratory scientist is.

Discrimination shouldn't be that obvious in a government established hospital.

Yes, doctors can earn more from call duty allowances, pharmacist also run call, virtually most of these professionals run one of either overtime, call, and so on. The difference can come from there and not salary scale.

Also if I am a Radiologist, let an experienced radiologist head my department and not a medical doctor.

I am sure if JOHESU keeps quiet as they had been, a medical doctor will head the works department ( if that hasn't been happening already).

radigrapher right? I hope u know the difference between radiologist and radiographer.....RADIOLOGIST is nma while RADIOGRAPHER is johesu, simple!

Amarabae:

Whether they see other as team members or not does not matter,
What matters is Johesu getting justice.
I am happy that Nigerians are now aware of the mess in the health sector and the cause.
How one profession want to suppress other professions is shocking.

Good question, but what do you think johesu are fighting for? No offense,but do you know a cleaner in the hospital is also a johesu member

amaham:
Privatise the whole system, bring in investors, make available universal insurance to make the privatise system affordable

If government hospital is privatize, an average Nigerian won't be able to afford it. That's a bad move

Hand over hospital administration to professional hospitals administrators. Create a directorate for all the hospital departments. Same salaries structures but different allowances, All should be allow to reach d peak of their careers. Ministers of health should be those who are vast in hospital administration and not medical doctor. Ministry of health shd have a directorate for all cadre

tsquaure:
Dont worry Johesu . Many more docs will leave the shores of this country . I just pity the ordinary nigerians who will be left to d caprices of nurses and pharmacists.
It is only in my country nurses n pharmacists claim to know what d doctors does except for surgery. Una go dey alrighr las las
That is how one nurse almost killed during nysc because she claimed to know more that d nysc doctor . I spent more days in the hospital flushing out d drug she administered as i had a bad reaction to it .

my dear what you just typed there is vice versa. Do you know how many lives have been saved by the nurse due to the gross incompetence of the doctors?
And if you think doctors traveling out is the better option, Nurses are needed overseas more than any other health professionals.

jaychubi:
Other health workers should be obedient to doctors who is their Superiors.

They shld not aspire to be consultants bc it's only for doctors in a hospital setting.

Juhesu shld allow the existing salary ratio bw them and doctors, n stop asking for salary increment as dt means automatic increment for doctors.

Juhesu members shld go and read medicine if they want to be treated as doctors or quit trying.

We all kw dt juhesu members could not score high in jamb n d4 had to settle for their fate, good news is dt they can still go back to school n read medicine.

everything you posted is stale and lacks arguments. Who is still thinking like this in the 21st century?

Let govt hands off hospitals management and give them to Management organizations in expectations for Return on Investment.

EsotericMonk:
Hmmmm, for those of us who are still young and ambitious, we can leave the country to places where we would be better appreciated and work without looking over our heads.....and we're already at it.
Since JOHESU want to abrogate to themselves the duties and role of the Doctor, let's allow them do just that. Last last we would be fine.

see you , Na so other countries go allow you touch their pt when you get there like say dem daft abi sleep there and be day dreaming

PaChukwudi44:


Yes it is by choice but if the reward is the same we will have less people making the choice to become Doctors in view of the rigours it takes to become a medical doctor compared to those of other medical professions

Then where is the place of talent and passion in career choices. ?

Are doctors no longer becoming doctors because they are gifted in that area and derives more satisfaction from it?

I can't say because a course pays well with significantly less stress compared to another one, I should go and do it when my core passion is for the latter.

mfm04622:


Yes, professionals in that field should head each team. Also, Doctors don't have any advantage over other professionals when it comes to heading or managing health institutions. However, you shouldn't demand for same salary structure as doctors. Each professionals cadre should negotiate their salary structure without caring what others are earning. Radiologist, pharmacists, Nurses, lab technicians shouldn't demand for what doctors earn. Doctors shouldn't encroach on other professionals functions.

radiologist are doctors .....Radiographers are JOHESU
Stop confusing the two

mfm04622:


So you want to earn same amount with doctors? Do you think it is fair for you a lab technician that spent 3 years in school and a doctor that spent 6 to earn the same?
When it comes to administration of hospitals, yes doctors should not be head of hospitals. Doctors don't have any advantage over other professionals when it comes to managing hospitals.

First of all, I am not a lab technician,
I am a graduate nurse who also spent years in the University,
It is not fair for a doctor to earn the same thing with every other health professionals, but rather we are asking for Equity and not equality.
Johesu ask for salary increment and other non salary things,
They did not say pay us the same thing you pay doctors
Thanks.

Why can't JOHESU ask for a review of salary without comparing with NMA salary scale? It reeks of jelousy and back-biting. I am sure that if you pay JOHESU what NMA is currently earning now and then increase NMA money, JOHESU will embark on another strike.

Now, Non-Academic Staff Union of Universities are keenly watching the development. They too, will start agitating for parallel salary scale with lecturers and to be able to head universities too. In life there is always order' two captains cannot run a ship.

The only way forward is for people to learn to respect others' professions. No one profession is greater than the other. Our professions are like callings. I do not become an Engineer because I am not qualified to be a doctor. A physiotherapist could have chosen to be a doctor. I sometime feel our doctors have egos that most times put them at conflict with others. Sadly hospitals won't function if other professionals are absent. The earlier we start giving respect due to people the better for us.
The statement credited to health minister where he spoke highly about doctors and made others their subjugates do not augur well for our system.

tsquaure:
Dont worry Johesu . Many more docs will leave the shores of this country . I just pity the ordinary nigerians who will be left to d caprices of nurses and pharmacists.
It is only in my country nurses n pharmacists claim to know what d doctors does except for surgery. Una go dey alrighr las las
That is how one nurse almost killed during nysc because she claimed to know more that d nysc doctor . I spent more days in the hospital flushing out d drug she administered as i had a bad reaction to it .

And when they get there, they should continue with their superiority complex.
Mind you, doctors are not the only ones leaving in droves, every other health professionals are packing their bags too.

Government at all level should allow justice to prevail in health sector. the problem revenging our health sector today are been fuel by our government insensitivity to different profession, a situation where government only give room for doctors alone (min of health doctor, min of health for state doctor, perm sec. min of health a doctor) to take administrative role are unhealthy, we have medical bracket that if we have multiple post, it should be share across the board so as to allow every profession participate in decision making. such policy is a grave decision that result into the state of anarchism we are today. another profession negotiating for other profession what government should pay them? no no is bad, is as if you are telling are farmer to be going to farm with Biro, while telling an official person to go with hole. that is a clear example of what's happening in Nigerian health sector

Use cane and flog those johesu back to work,what impetus,if they want to be doctor s they should pls go to medical school,no backyard style,imagine a catechist wanting to officiate mass because u have seen it done for donkeys years,try theological school and they will understand want it means to be priest,nobody should beg johesu.

PaChukwudi44:


you know that will never happen.I am not a medical doctor but it would be grossly unfair to suggest Doctors should earn same thing as lab scientists or nurses.It is even laughable to suggest.Go on strike from now until 2028 it wont happen.It takes a lot to become a medical Doctor.If there are to nearn the same thing peope would rather chose to become lab scientists or nurses than to go through the rigours that it takes to become a medical Doctor.

u deserve two keg of palm wine

jaychubi:
Other health workers should be obedient to doctors who is their Superiors.

They shld not aspire to be consultants bc it's only for doctors in a hospital setting.

Juhesu shld allow the existing salary ratio bw them and doctors, n stop asking for salary increment as dt means automatic increment for doctors.

Juhesu members shld go and read medicine if they want to be treated as doctors or quit trying.

We all kw dt juhesu members could not score high in jamb n d4 had to settle for their fate, good news is dt they can still go back to school n read medicine.

Can't help but laugh at this

bolinjkezzy:

Good question, but what do you think johesu are fighting for? No offense,but do you know a cleaner in the hospital is also a johesu member

Cleaners aren't members of JOHESU. Cleaners and Security are outsource staffs.

CircleOfWilis:
radigrapher right? I hope u know the difference between radiologist and radiographer.....RADIOLOGIST is nma while RADIOGRAPHER is johesu, simple!

Just read your comment again, does it sound right?

Is Radiology a specialty in medicine like Opthalmology, O&G, paediatrics and so on?
If so, pharmacy should then be a specialty in medicine.

Back to your comment, if Radiologist and Radiographers are of different Unions, then something is wrong.

Supposed workers if same profession in different union.

Let me stop here.

Get your facts.

GavelSlam:
Accept the hierarchy within the medical establishment.

The doctor is supremo and must be at the top of the pyramid.

The doctor would always earn more and rightly so.

Other members of the enterprise must be adequately remunerated.

Everyone must come to terms with his/her role, ñimportance and collaborative necessity.

QED
A bottle of origin for you brother

tsquaure:
Dont worry Johesu . Many more docs will leave the shores of this country . I just pity the ordinary nigerians who will be left to d caprices of nurses and pharmacists.
It is only in my country nurses n pharmacists claim to know what d doctors does except for surgery. Una go dey alrighr las las
That is how one nurse almost killed during nysc because she claimed to know more that d nysc doctor . I spent more days in the hospital flushing out d drug she administered as i had a bad reaction to it .

Leave that matter. Alot of patients are dying due to doctors wrong prescriptions. Be lucky if u are buying from a pharmacist that questions you when you are purchasing some drugs to know who and why you are buying such.

xreal:


Get your facts.

go get urs...

https://www.rcr.ac.uk/public-and-media/common-medical-terms/radiology-faqs

oshiiteoku:
Use cane and flog those johesu back to work,what impetus,if they want to be doctor s they should pls go to medical school,no backyard style,imagine a catechist wanting to officiate mass because u have seen it done for donkeys years,try theological school and they will understand want it means to be priest,nobody should beg johesu.

Court already instructed the federal govt. To honour the agreed deal so why is doctor interfering? Tomorrow we will say some people don't obey court order.

jaychubi:
Other health workers should be obedient to doctors who is their Superiors.

They shld not aspire to be consultants bc it's only for doctors in a hospital setting.

Juhesu shld allow the existing salary ratio bw them and doctors, n stop asking for salary increment as dt means automatic increment for doctors.

Juhesu members shld go and read medicine if they want to be treated as doctors or quit trying.

We all kw dt juhesu members could not score high in jamb n d4 had to settle for their fate, good news is dt they can still go back to school n read medicine.

Are you okay upstairs?
do you think everyone craves to be a doctor like your family lineage?
Please try and start respecting other health professionals because it is what they have decided to study.
Go and check the statistics of everyone that apply for jamb and you will know that people have their choices from the very onset.