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NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU / Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! / Federal Health Workers Under The Umbrella Of JOHESU Embark On Indefinite Trike (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Quelme: 1:10pm On May 22, 2018 |
mfm04622:keep your mouth shut.... A medical laboratory scientist course duration is 5 years +1 year INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME+1 year NYSC=7 years. 4 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Yonce(f): 1:11pm On May 22, 2018 |
kolmart: NMA aren't even bothered by JOHESU salary increment demand. It's their right but why must they bring Doctors' salary scale into it? And why do y'all want to be Consultants though ![]() There are some incentives that drive people to go through the headache of medical school and you want to hand it to others who had it relatively easier during training on a platter of gold under the false guise of EQUITY? 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by CircleOfWilis: 1:11pm On May 22, 2018 |
OgaInnocent: ![]() Free him please... ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by docadams: 1:13pm On May 22, 2018 |
dalongjnr: If your claims are true,I wonder what the hell is keeping you in Nigeria. Abi, you don't like good thing? |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by tsquaure(f): 1:17pm On May 22, 2018 |
Amarabae:this was a nurse in the airforce base. qualified nurse . pls let every one do their job and not try to over step their boundaries. Nurses are not meant to change prescriptions neither are they to diagnose patients . if the doc is wrong( let it be on him or her) . too much confusion every where. people lives are at stake 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Angelfrost(m): 1:18pm On May 22, 2018 |
docadams: Attached to Doctors??! What is even wrong with you? If they are attached to doctors, then why don't you detach them so that you can have the entire hospital to yourselves??! I am taking the fifth on all these issues, but your statement is rife with arrogance tinged in conceit and poor objectivity (if not a total lack of). It's because your Health ministry reasons so narrow-mindedly that a strike which should have been settled before it even started has dragged on for this long. Research on how developed countries run their hospitals, and be ashamed of your country. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 1:19pm On May 22, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019:The only people I'm sure do calls are Medical lab scientists and most of the time, they leave the next morning. Pharmacists run shifts, nurses run shifts, radiographers run shifts, record officers run shifts, cleaners, security men etc. Most health worker's run shifts. 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by luckyosemu: 1:23pm On May 22, 2018 |
All health works should be allowed to head their various professional department without interference of others who do not have a degree in such specialty. Salary should be review for JOHESU members with a difference of entry point for the cclinicians. Equal salary for those JOHESU members who have also spent the same number of years in the university should have the same salary scale with same entry point. In other countries, we doctor of Medical laboratory scientists, doctor of pharmacist like the current trend in Nigeria today. NMA should desist from interfering with JOHESU demand with Federal government. CMD/ MD is an administrative job, therefore it should be advertised and open to all in the health sectors. Following Nigeria track records of minister of health, non medical professionals as a minister of health did better than what we are seeing today. From what we have see, the current minister of health Prof. Adewole ISaac has proven that he is not a minister to all health works rather just minister of NMA. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 1:23pm On May 22, 2018 |
Yonce:but the NMA has always been the 1st to throw venom at other people's negotiations telling the government on how much to pay to health workers. you have to be objective when you write...always get your fact right 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by tsquaure(f): 1:25pm On May 22, 2018 |
Angelfrost:Do you live in nigeria at all . pharmacist, nurses lab technicians do diagnose, prescribe and manage patients and get away with it . some own hospitals where they sit and see patients. I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THIS O . |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 1:26pm On May 22, 2018 |
Bidexgarl:is that so? pharmacists run shift you mean? clap for yourself man 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Angelfrost(m): 1:27pm On May 22, 2018 |
Bidexgarl: Pharmacists, even at internship, run call duties! What is wrong with you Nigerians??! Can't you do proper research before coming on such prestigious fora to make statements??! Arguing with most Nigerians is beyond tasking!!! Anyway, am done here! 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Mikeross62: 1:30pm On May 22, 2018 |
Let them resolve the issue diplomatically |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Geesaintagape: 1:31pm On May 22, 2018 |
Govt should wake up to its duty. A functioning govt cannot allow everything to take place. Govt should lay down a process n follow up. Or do 50% privatisation but the unfortuNate part is our govt is not interested in the system especially buhari who has a clinic in UK |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Angelfrost(m): 1:34pm On May 22, 2018 |
tsquaure: My wonderful Naija sibling, am writing about standard healthcare delivery facilities like F.M.C, Orthopaedic Hospitals, Teaching Hospitals, etc. Where in such places did you see such??! Name one of them! If these people do that in their private establishments, that is a different matter entirely, and that will only happen due to the inability of those tasked with regulation. Quacks are everywhere, even in developed countries like U.K and U.SA. Stop straying from the key point of this sensitive discourse! 6 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 22, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019:The ones I have seen. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 22, 2018 |
Angelfrost:The ones I have seen. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by dokyOloye: 1:48pm On May 22, 2018 |
PaChukwudi44:If a patient does not get better,d doctor takes d blame,nor forking nurse,no forking lab man,no pharmacist. They will all claim they all carried out d doctor's instructions. Yet they want to earn like doctors and head d doctor. Nigeria is a very strange place. 6 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by dokyOloye: 1:51pm On May 22, 2018 |
stunning4real:Who told you that? You mean a doctor can't dress the bed or administer drugs? Abi na to check vital signs? 3 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by luckyosemu: 1:52pm On May 22, 2018 |
For clarity sake, medical doctors spent just six(6) years in school while others spent 5(years). The level of training remain the same for One year internship and NYSC. With the Current trend in world standard and Nigeria today, Pharmacist and medical laboratory Scientist have started doctor of Medical laboratory scientists and doctor of pharmacist with 6 years program like medical Doctors before one year internship and NYSC. For those claiming Medical doctor spent 7 years is false. If any delay in their training, that could be due to the school. Such can happen to any school or profession either due to loss of accreditation from council or NUC The treating is rigorous for all. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Chartey(m): 1:53pm On May 22, 2018 |
xreal:A radiologist is a specialist doctor that has completed years of residency after medical school. Please don't confuse a radiographer for a radiologist. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by NickyT039: 1:56pm On May 22, 2018 |
Doctors are just been selfish. JOHESU is not asking for pay parity but equity nd justice. Why do u have to enslave other members of healthcare team. Their pay shouldn't be determined by NMA. Increasing JOHESU's salary does not in anyway affect doctors salary. FG should be fair in dealing with both parties. The self centered minister of health should be sacked 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 1:57pm On May 22, 2018 |
dokyOloye: So why aren't the Doctors doing that now. Go to most hospitals now and you'll see them either sitting or gisting, some will even tell you the hospital staffs are on strike. That you even feel the role of Nurses is just to check vital signs speaks volume of why we are in this present situation, because I feel you were taught some nursing processes in your Med school. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by NickyT039: 1:59pm On May 22, 2018 |
dokyOloye:If they can do it, y r all the hospital wards empty. Nigerians shouldn't feel the impact of the strike if doctors are capable of managing the hospital alone 4 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Thanks18(m): 2:00pm On May 22, 2018 |
Privatization of the entire sector and health administrators and managers of the sector from primary to tertiary level including Health minister open to competent hands drawn from any profession in the health sector. Let there be parity and equity of wages among all healthcare givers. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by olalekanadewum(m): 2:03pm On May 22, 2018 |
The JOHESU members on CONHESS 12 who spent more than twenty years before getting there and a fresh graduate who is a doctor will be employed and placed on that same level and not only that doctor salary will be paid higher, this is a great injustice. *The minister of Health should be removed *The Administrators or technocrats should be appointed as the head of our hospitals and let every profession face their work * Look out for what is practiced in other parts of the world and do the same here. 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by NickyT039: 2:04pm On May 22, 2018 |
dokyOloye:Dis is not true. in fact nurses take most of the blame. Doctors like shifting blames on other health professionals. Besides, JOHESU is not fighting for pay parity, but equity. Y r doctors fond of lies.. from d minister to d house officer. SMH... 3 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by tsquaure(f): 2:07pm On May 22, 2018 |
[quote author=luckyosemu post=67778541]For clarity sake, medical doctors spent just six(6) years in school while others spent 5(years). The level of training remain the same for One year internship and NYSC. With the Current trend in world standard and Nigeria today, Pharmacist and medical laboratory Scientist have started doctor of Medical laboratory scientists and doctor of pharmacist with 6 years program like medical Doctors before one year internship and NYSC. For those claiming Medical doctor spent 7 years is false. If any delay in their training, that could be due to the school. Such can happen to any school or profession either due to loss of accreditation from council or NUC The treating is rigorous for all. [/quote ) doctor of medical laboratory scientist ok o ( does that mean you are PHD holder) if yes simple doc ... will do . if no what does a doctor of medical laboratory scientist do ... make una dey confuse patients because you want doctor added to your name. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Chartey(m): 2:09pm On May 22, 2018 |
Bidexgarl:You're wrong about the equivalence of Consultant to CNO. The CNO is a rank attained by years of service same way a doctor without specialist training rises through the normal civil service ranks as CMO, PMO etc. A consultant however is a doctor who has undergone further training of almost a decade called residency to become a highly-skilled specialist. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by olalekanadewum(m): 2:11pm On May 22, 2018 |
NMA is not a registered union they are profession body like ICAN or ANAN while JOHESU is a registered trade union under Nigerian law. It is because Nigeria law is not effective that is why an illegal NMA will be dictating to FG because they produce the minister of state for health, minister of health, minister of labour and the HODs in the ministry of health. The JOHESU went to court on the same issue and they won but they refuse to implement the judgment because the doctors are the one there 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by skabber2: 2:12pm On May 22, 2018 |
docadams:Do you know what entry level graduates earn in NNPC,CBN ? You need to help. So, you ll want to kill yourself if you find yourslf in these places or with multinational companies with good pay. 4 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:12pm On May 22, 2018 |
dokyOloye: In a sane clime does a LICENSED PROFESSIONAL even have to take an instruction from a Medical Doctor before he discharges his/her duties? If yes then why his he/she a PROFESSIONAL, you guys keep shouting international best practices but never follow it's tenets to detail. 1 Like |
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