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NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU / Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! / Federal Health Workers Under The Umbrella Of JOHESU Embark On Indefinite Trike (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nkcells(f): 2:13pm On May 22, 2018 |
Me I want to leave this country, someone help me with a legit link, let me go and join buhari's doctors abroad |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:18pm On May 22, 2018 |
olalekanadewum:. Thank you my brother, each time NMA strikes or ask for one thing or the other does anybody hear/sees JOHESU or any other unions block them or hinder them? NO, so why now? The reason is not far fetched, NMA does not want other professions in the health sector to grow and that is the reason for the rot we have today in our hospitals. Come to think of it the WHO which is the world health governing body is not headed by a Medical Doctor. So why is the health system in NIGERIA different? 5 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by olalekanadewum(m): 2:20pm On May 22, 2018 |
Anyone that say that doctors are not well treated in Nigeria is totally in dark. There are doctors that are collecting 1m in our hospitals yet they have their own private hospitals. If JOHESU of NMA is on strike is to their advantage because they will be exploiting poor masses. A simple operation in Government hospitals amounted 50,000 naira will be over 200,000 naira in private hospitals, now if the federal hospital is been privatised the the masses will suffer for it. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by HopeRisingmatte(m): 2:21pm On May 22, 2018 |
SmartMugu:Are u in Nigeria? Well I think they are names of newly discovered mammals. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Ahmed3rdjuly: 2:24pm On May 22, 2018 |
Ministers of health should be Public health experts only and not just medical doctors. Hospitals should be ran by seasoned administrators and management experts while the Chief operating officer or CMD should then be a medical doctor. There should be a national hospital management board who will supervise hospital administration |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by ultron12345: 2:33pm On May 22, 2018 |
Dething:what about the fresh nurse that will be controlling a cleaner that has been working for over 20 years 7 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by TheDoc: 2:35pm On May 22, 2018 |
PRIVATISATION. Let everybody earns based on the services rendered period. Imagine a house officer on call on say a Monday, that means he will work with the nurses on morning shift, afternoon shift, night shift, then on Tuesday he will work with the nurses on morning shift and afternoon before closing only to return on Wednesday morning to continue working. God help him he is not having another call that week. Don't forget the duration of study in university 6+X years + 1 year of housemanship + 1 year NYSC. 6 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Yonce(f): 2:35pm On May 22, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019: Where's the proof to back up your claims ![]() Y'all want call allowances, y'all want to be treated like doctors. . . It can't happen. You have every right to demand for an increment in salary but don't drag a doctor's pay into it. . . Don't try to downgrade someone else to upgrade yourself. It's jealousy. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by dokyOloye: 2:35pm On May 22, 2018 |
Solababa91:The Johesu members that were involved in an accident over d weekend in Edo state,what happened? Were they not treated and stabilised without help from anybody,some discharged sef? I've worked in private hospitals,and I do every forking thing without help sometimes,like during holidays or few odd times. Keep lying to yourselves and d gullible public. 4 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:38pm On May 22, 2018 |
CircleOfWilis: We all know how privatization works in Nigeria let's not deceive ourselves it will not pay both parties, let's start from HO's, now that the system is not even privatized there are lots of them still wandering about the streets and you'll quite agree that in Nigeria private establishments only care about profit maximization. A lot of your MOs, SMOs and Consultants would not get job because the order of the day would be less staff, more productivity and profit and the masses would pay more and get less. I just laugh whenever I hear see the assertion you made up there. Both parties would suffer, there won't be anything like NMA strike or JOHESU strike, you won't even dare it. because of you do, and you are sacked, there will be thousands hand out there to take your job from you. Take the OLD NEPA for example, before it was privatized, there use to be NEPA strike, but since it has been privatized do you hear if such anymore? Or probably you think if the system is privatized, Doctors will take over the duties of all other health professionals who have there professional bodies affiliated worldwide? Laughs... |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by OgaInnocent(m): 2:39pm On May 22, 2018 |
Dething:30years of nursing does not qualify you a Doctor. The rule was not made because of you, it was there before you went buying your jamb form into nursing science. Stick to the rule or go buy another jamb. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Yonce(f): 2:41pm On May 22, 2018 |
olalekanadewum: So you're saying a starting doctor should earn the same thing as a starting nurse/pharmacist/lab technician? And a consultant surgeon should also earn the same thing as a CNO? 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Yonce(f): 2:42pm On May 22, 2018 |
ultron12345: olalekanadewum please answer this ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:42pm On May 22, 2018 |
dokyOloye: And how many are they? Am. in the system and I know how it goes, and I know what am talking about, interns of JOHESU still do their duties. Right or wrong? You can't compare the figures of those that had an accident to the populace. If the doctors are capable then why are there no patients in the wards any longer? |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Deniceone: 2:43pm On May 22, 2018 |
ultron12345:Oga, there's something called "skilled and unskilled jobs" 'professionals and non professionals'. 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Maxcollins042(m): 2:44pm On May 22, 2018 |
GavelSlam: Is JOHESU clamouring for parity with NMA? |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by xreal: 2:44pm On May 22, 2018 |
Chartey: Thank you. I appreciate your correction void of insults. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:47pm On May 22, 2018 |
OgaInnocent:. Who made the rule and when #and where was it made? You can only deceive yourself not the public. Who oversees WHO today? A Medical Doctor? |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by OgaInnocent(m): 2:50pm On May 22, 2018 |
Solababa91:WHO is not a hospital. It is an organization. Come in here https://www.nairaland.com/4518317/johesu-vs-nma-suggestion-federal 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Uchemus(m): 2:53pm On May 22, 2018 |
xreal:no need to waste my energy on someone who doesn't know the differ3nce between a Radiologist and radiographer. where do I even start from.. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Solababa91(m): 2:56pm On May 22, 2018 |
OgaInnocent: Hospitals are institution as well as WHO. right or wrong? hospitals consists of several health professionals, as well as WHO. 2 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by positivethought: 3:02pm On May 22, 2018 |
Let the medical personnel on the same level earn same basic salary,allowances may differ though.let the various medical sub units be headed by specialist in those fields e. g lab scientists to head the lab, pharmacists to head pharmacy etc while the doctors head their own units but the doctors or surgeons should be the overall head of the team.The Bsc in general nursing should be scrapped n replaced with Bsc surgical nurse, Bsc dental nurse, Bsc orthopedic nurse etc where the Bsc should only be acquired after qualifying as a RN and practising for a minimum period of three years, the Bsc course should be of at least two years duration. The idea that only a medical doctor will be appointed as health mimister should be stopped or we should also agree that only those who study political science or public administration should contest for public executive positions. 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by ultron12345: 3:03pm On May 22, 2018 |
Deniceone:Ehn......okay......why will a fresh pharmacist earn more than a pharmaceutical technologist of 4 years experience, why should fresh BMLS graduate earn more than medical lab technologist working for several years. 3 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by dkdigits(m): 3:06pm On May 22, 2018 |
[quote author=mfm04622 post=67775066] So you want to earn same amount with doctors? Do you think it is fair for you a lab technician that spent 3 years in school and a doctor that spent 6 to earn the same? When it comes to administration of hospitals, yes doctors should not be head of hospitals. Doctors don't have any advantage over other professionals when it comes to managing hospitals. [/quote ]Nobody is asking for that, a lab technician's entry point in service is conhess 6/grade level 7.it will take him about 9yrs in service to get to the level 9, which is the entry point of a house officer and even then they wouldn't earn the same bcoz the doctors call duty allowance is more than twice what the technician earns as shift allowance. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by OgaInnocent(m): 3:10pm On May 22, 2018 |
Solababa91:WHO is an organization. Its like saying, because Buhari is president of Nigeria, as a cattle rearer, therefore anybody can head the hospital. False. Doctors are best persons to manage the hospital. 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 3:14pm On May 22, 2018 |
xreal:stop embarassing yourself and take simple correction |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by larrrymore(m): 3:18pm On May 22, 2018 |
tsquaure:you have been saying this since...... like its easy to leave this country u know how many jobless doctors we have in this country that run shift from one clinic to the other because of peanut change ..... to get ordinary house job nah wahala 1 Like |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by xreal: 3:23pm On May 22, 2018 |
funmisticqueen: Adon hear. |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Nobody: 3:26pm On May 22, 2018 |
Yonce:You know the truth within yourself so there's no point proving anything. we're all humans with conscience but I'm shocked that no member of the NMA dear speak the sacred truth to the body. Was that part of human taken away from you guys in medical school? Talking about call allowance, why shouldn't other professionals be paid call allowances or is it not work they're doing? Call allowances can be likened to earned allowances in the university...do you know of anyone within the academic circle who is not paid the money? To put the record straight, the bone of contention in our health system isn't just about remuneration...it's a little part of it. What health workers are fighting against is injustice and dominance of a set of people who think they own the hospital and our health system. Over the past 3 decades these men have been at leadership position in our health system and the result is what we have today; ranking very low on the global scene in everything concerning health care. This goes further to show that they are not good health managers and should not be allowed to continue if we must get it right. No body should reinforce failure as OBJ will say. Also, the NMA over the years has turned itself into the regulatory body of other health professionals. A situation where the NMA try to detect to the pharmacist council on how pharmacist should be trained cannot be allowed to stand. Telling the NUC not to approve the D. Pharm degree and qualifications gotten from the West Africa postgraduate school of pharmacist is nothing but sheer stupidity. Medling in the career progression of other professionals by the NMA is also fraudulent and demonic. Health care is evolving and changing every day and we have no option but to evolve with it. Only a fool get stagnated forever and the NMA shouldn't be one. 7 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by larrrymore(m): 3:32pm On May 22, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019:don't mind those yeye doc....there eyes will soon clear |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by Angelfrost(m): 3:34pm On May 22, 2018 |
DABMarkNig2019: Guy, abeg don't waste words on these poorly bred individuals. They should continue bequeathing godhood upon themselves, and dragging the national healthcare system backwards. This mindset started while in school where they see themselves as superior to every other student on campus... Thank God I am quite abreast of healthcare delivery, and professional boundaries in other countries. 5 Likes |
Re: Drop A Suggestion On How To Solve The NMA Vs Johesu Issue? by careerwoman(f): 3:42pm On May 22, 2018 |
Deniceone: Please stop spreading false facts. Entry level for doctors is CONMESS step 1 and is currently 184,074 |
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