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Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 3:49am On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio: why not join the army, take up AK47 or M16 and rocket launchers but never use it so you may learn how to never harm men with them. Ain't you supposed to follow Christ ![]() ![]() I see you are sheepishly trying to suggest that whatever he did was restricted to Jews. In the which I may suggest that his peace was as well meant for Jews? Very silly ![]() So for the umpteenth time name the uses of sword apart from offense and defense. Let me help...hmmm swords can be used for root canal, they can be used as a stylus for iPads, practicing Taichi...carry on |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 3:59am On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio: You are not the sharpest tool in the box. Name other purposes or use for the swords apart from offense and defense. I bet they were to be used for root canal or walking sticks, or digging a grave, or fighting wild animals ![]() ![]() ![]() You had suggested that he was addressing a Jewish audience meaning whatever he said is not applicable to you the Gentile. So could it be that even the praying for enemies and not using swords were equally meant for the immediate Jewish audience and not you? Please don't waste my time barking all over until you address the reason behind Jesus arming his disciples with deadly weapons |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 5:06am On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:Sorry Sir we're not for arguments, we're ONLY to make presentations of our Faith (Matthew 10:11-14)and if it's not appealing to you OK,it's a free world that's why America (today's world power) has declared freedom of expression "freedom of worship" so please suit yourself! Phillipians 2:14 1 Like |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 5:12am On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Your presentation is deficient and indefensible. Once again, what is the purpose of arming hitherto unarmed disciples? Why don’t you bear arms but never intend to use them as well? 1 Like |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 6:37am On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:We're followers of the young man from Nazareth who NEVER make use of the sword(weapons) had it been He taught US how to use it we'll surely be making use of it but since He never did we don't go for training to use it on anybody! Isaiah 2:4 That's why i as one of His followers today am telling you the purpose why He told our first set to get it but NEVER used it and gradually it became our custom to make use of it in the spiritual sense! Ephesians 6:17 Hebrews 4:12 |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by proudkafir: 1:24pm On May 22, 2018 |
Any group, organization or body that discourages its members from national security services such as police, air force, civil defense, navy, and other security organization should be banned. It is an act of civil disobedience, if at the time of national crisis/emergency, that requires able men and women, to defend their home, community, for any group to chose neutrality while others die to defend the same people that chose neutrality. If there is a country called the 'Jehovah witness nation' and all her citizens Jehovah's witnesses, that will be good. They can make a law forbidding weapons and the formation and ownership of security forces. Its unfortunate no nation can operate and be formed on that basis in this modern age and time. JW should stop living in an Utopian paradise which only existed in their imagination and on the front pages on the watchtower magazines. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 1:30pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir:Please Sir do you agree with freedom of expression and worship? Or do you choose to infringe on other people's right and forcing them to agree with your ideology?. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by proudkafir: 2:19pm On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Any religion that violates civil law of any land should be outlawed. No religion should be above the law of the land. If any religion discourages it members from compulsory civil responsibilities of any land, such religion should be banned in the affected country. As I said earlier, JW's paradise exist only on the front page of the watchtower magazines and on the imaginations of its 'loyal' and 'discreet' slaves. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 3:04pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir:Well Sir that's your opinion,and others should say their mind. NOBODY should play the God here forcing people to do things against their will! It's either you speak to people like you to convince them or persuade them with gifts but forcing people to do things against their own will is inhuman meaning humans like you can't choose what they want to do. Please there is what is called fundamental human rights, we're not living in Arab countries or amongst animals who can't understand that humans have rights! |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by proudkafir: 3:28pm On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Voluntary civil disobedience has nothing to do with someone expressing his 'fundamental human right'. There is a need for law and order in any given society, which helps regulate the life and conduct of every citizen. I don't think JW spends time to teach their 'discreet slaves' the importance of obedience to a politically constituted authority hence your failure to draw the line between freedom of expression and compulsory civil responsibility. In a country like Israel and Russia, all citizens between the ages of 18-20 years must undergo a compulsory military and paramilitary training, irrespective of your religion or belief system. And for an organization, whose headquarters is in the US, to advise its members in Russia, not to participate in these training is a complete show of rebellion, which the JW had consistently failed to understand. The only thing a rational govt is expected to do is to proscribe the organization, which the Russian govt had done. Until you separate religious dogma from present sociopolitical realities, you will continue seeing yourself a victim of govt policies and decisions. The world we are is a hostile place and all nation formulate policies that meet current global challenge. In the Bible, nowhere God forbade people from enrolling in military service. Cornelius was a military man and a gentile who accepted Jesus Christ and the apostles didn't ask him to resign from his military career. The centurion, who Jesus healed his daughter, was a military man and Jesus never asked him to resign from his military career. Until you learn to study the Bible independently, and not blindly follow the watchtower's 'what the Bible really teaches' booklet, the men at Brooklyn, in NY headquarters of the watchtowers will keep brainwashing you and make you go against law and order, in the name of 'Bible truth'. 1 Like |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 3:56pm On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio: He did make use of swords; he armed his unarmed disciples I suggest you walk around with a sword and a gun the thou never intend to use ...that’s is if you really are a follower of Jesus. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 5:34pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir:Sorry Sir it's our trained conscience that's telling US not to kill people because they're doing things the wrong way! We believe we can always settle matters amicably without the use of weapons. But if some have rendered their conscience dead out of racism or sentiment we're no part of them! John 17:16 |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 5:37pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:I believe i've made myself clear with regards to weapons but if you feel you need weapons to survive or to live a PEACEFUL life please suit yourself! |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by proudkafir: 6:32pm On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio:I'm sorry bro, the watchtower brainwashing has gone too deep into your subconscious mind. Man have for thousands of yours had been engaging in wars and battle for land and resources; it is part and parcel of human nature. The utopia paradise you are expecting after your so-called Armageddon is a fantasy in a comic book. The world will remain a place of different type of people and lifestyle, some of who are naturally militarilistic. For thousands of years, peace are maintained by power of arms and at times wars are fought for peace to reign and map redrawn. The current land you occupy or live today was made possible through war and men are raised and trained to protect it against external incursion. I don't know how old you are but your reasoning seems too low to comprehend rational and nonreligious conversation. Have a great day man! |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 6:58pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir:What we believe is not common so we don't expect you to take it easily, it belongs to those who are PATIENTLY awaiting the judgment of God! Psalms 37:7-11 The Bible made it clear that there will be lots of religious groups in the last days claiming they're all worshipping the only true God. The only difference between them and those practicing pure worship is that those worshipping the true God WILL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE! Isaiah 2:1-4 If you believe in fighting for lands and territories keep doing so but we will wait PATIENTLY for the one who promised US. Faith is the assured expectations of what's hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not seen! Hebrews 11:1 So if you don't have FAITH it's OK but you can't force it out of the heart of those with faith! 1 Like |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 7:45pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:A mor0n claims it's from God's Pentecostal Holy Ghost! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 7:49pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir:...and where has the Pentecostal brainwashing gone?! |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 7:57pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 8:03pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron: You went to school....but the school did not completely go through you. This your question gives you away as a product of dogmatic Pentecostal brainwashing Please Mr M0r0n if you are ready to confess to us other purposes, and usages and contextual meanings and non-contextual meanings or use for the word sword apart from offense and defense, you and your father will receive the mercy of God. No wonder your forefathers labeled you accursed...Mtchewwwww |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 8:10pm On May 22, 2018 |
enimooko: Oh, the swords were for swatting mosquitoes |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 8:11pm On May 22, 2018 |
enimooko:I’m responding to a thread by some buffoons here ![]() It’s part of my giving back to society; educating fools |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 8:12pm On May 22, 2018 |
Riofidelio: You may believe whatever you wish but you haven’t. Do you bear arms yourself just to train yourself restraint against their use? |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 8:14pm On May 22, 2018 |
proudkafir: No religion should be above the law of the land as long as the law of the land does not request an inordinate practice from the worshipers. Inordinate practices are determined by God through his word and spirit. Give God's things - not to Ceaser - but to God. In Russia as with many other countries b4 JWs educated all off them, they were the Ceaser and they were the God. FACT |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 8:16pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:OK, but that dosen't answer the question...Why is Russia afraid of JWs? ...and why are you addicted to JWs like your Russian counterparts? |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 8:19pm On May 22, 2018 |
M0ron:IF that is what the Pentecostal holy ghost told you... Mosquitoes and swords...who am I to argue further. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 9:04pm On May 22, 2018 |
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Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 4:36am On May 23, 2018 |
enimooko: Idiot, swords are offense weapons. Jesus armed his disciples and you fools deny such a fact. Heretics |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by M0ron: 4:36am On May 23, 2018 |
enimooko:Why did Jesus arm his unarmed disciples? |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 7:06am On May 23, 2018 |
M0ron:God bless you for agreeing that everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion,faith or ideology no matter how STUPID it may sound to you(1Corinthians 2:14) as long as they're HARMLESSLY going about their respective businesses! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by orunto27: 7:41am On May 23, 2018 |
Do unto God what's God's and to Caesar what's Caesar's. In as much as no one is forced to have 666 on his or her forehead, Jehovah Witness should be a Russian in Russia. |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 7:06pm On May 23, 2018 |
orunto27: |
Re: Why Russia Is Afraid Of Jehovah’s Witnesses by enimooko: 7:10pm On May 23, 2018 |
M0ron:Oh yes we Pentecostals believe Jesus armed his disciples with the holy spirit but armed the m0rons with swords, bombs, and nuclear missiles to kill the other Christians who are in less privileged situations... |
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