andrew444:


At least as a mieldfielder he played 9 games and scored 1 goal,but your brother kayode who is a striker played 12 games for girona and scored 0 goals,I am yet to see when you will call him a flop.

Did Kelechi Nwakali flop or not?

How come with his 9 games and 1 goal, he was demoted to a lower division 2?

At least, the flopped Kayode made the la Liga team of the week with the likes of Messi and co, and later moved to a bigger club where he made the player of the month in a team Taison and Fred going to the world Cup plays.

At least, that flop is better.

komekn:


I rate a player from the consistency of his club football first, all things being equal.

Kelechi Nwakali a forward player has played near 40 games in the Eredivisie the easiest league to score goals in the top 20 leagues of Europe and scored 3 goals. No sentiment attached he simply not good enough for the SE.

In addition there are far too many better players ahead of him.

Yes nwakali is not good enough for SE no doubt but he is not a striker he is a central midfielder so how many goals do you want him to score ?

He played 30 games this season with 5 goals and 2 assist,so you want him to score as a striker ?

If this is the way you think stop watching football and stick to hockey...#anothermanwithnoclue#

andrew444:


He is injury prone look at the way you speak as if he doesn't play at all.

So because a player is 30 he will not perform well right ? Clap for your self ,what do you know about football ?

Jose holebas joined watford at the age of 30 from as Roma and now he is 33 and a always a regular at watford,I guess he didn't play well because of his age.

Not suprised it's coming from komekn,Mr southgate

You miss the point.

What has been Balogun performance over the last 7/8 years in the German league system❓

He was struggling on the bench at Mainz a team thats been romancing relegation. So do you think he will now come to the EPL and tear it up.

You can not be a mouse in London then turn to Lion when you reach Lagos. Not likely.

forgiveness:


Did Kelechi Nwakali flop or not?

How come with his 9 games and 1 goal, he was demoted to a lower division 2?

At least, the flopped Kayode made the la Liga team of the week with the likes of Messi and co, and later moved to a bigger club where he made the player of the month in a team Taison and Fred going to the world Cup plays.

At least, that flop is better.

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Lol you have no clue man,keep on disgracing your self

Did kayode flop or not ? 12 games no goal and you don't want to call him flop?

Nwakali was loaned to another club he had a good stint in that club the first time he was loaned there.

Someone made team of the week no goals and no assist ? What are you smoking,you can't hide the fact you are a tribalist

TheSuperNerd:
He returned to MVV because Arsenal believed he should be getting more game time beyond the time scraps he was getting at VVV Venlo. It was not for lack of ability. It was for game time. Simple.

You are just refusing to see the obvious truth. And K.Nwakali also had a few MOTM displays for MVV. I recall you said earlier that he didn't have. Look, just play it cool and balanced because when Kayode was also at a point not getting the daily 90mins his talent craved, you defended him saying that possibly the coach don't like or fancy him. Egbon... Please, Be fair and honest to the letter.

O boy you get time o.

Every time I spend here is costly.

komekn:


You miss the point.

What has been Balogun performance over the last 7/8 years in the German league system❓

He was struggling on the bench at Mainz a team thats been romancing relegation. So do you think he will now come to the EPL and tear it up.

You can not be a mouse in London then turn to Lion when you reach Lagos. Not likely.

Yes balogun might not have the best season but why are you hyping the EPL?

So because mainz is a relegation team does that mean he will not play well in the EPL?

Is brighton not also a relegation team?

You make it look like EPL is on another level which is not

[quote author=TheSuperNerd post=67804834] A few of them are still around and doing well... One of them is Franck Kessie from the 2013 class. He is at AC Milan now.


Victorien Angban was signed by Chelsea I think... He is out on loan in Belgium @Waasland Beveren.

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I see...but compaired against Nigeria...as in players transition from junior level to senior level...we seem to have done better...I also think that they need a good coach..Wilmorts..no...

[quote author=asha80 post=67804814]only if england had flair players all these years bar gazza maybe they would have reached a world cup or euro final since 1966[/quote

That could have been a possibility in the past.

But football is changing and tactical astuteness, structure and discipline seemingly relegating flair without end product to the background.

unfortunately football is becoming boringly efficient.

andrew444:


Lol you have no clue man,keep on disgracing your self

Did kayode flop or not ? 12 games no goal and you don't want to call him flop?

Nwakali was loaned to another club he had a good stint in that club the first time he was loaned there.

Someone made team of the week no goals and no assist ? What are you smoking,you can't hide the fact you are a tribalist

Easy bro. Please let's focus on more gainful discussions.

Icon4s:


O boy you get time o.

Every time I spend here is costly.

Lol... 'Just a pretty fast typer Dad....

Icon4s:


Easy bro. Please let's focus or more gainful discussions.

Thank you i will try and be easy,forgivness is a troll who doesnt speak the truth,i stand on my words forgiveness is a tribalist

TheSuperNerd:


Lol... 'Just a pretty fast typer Dad....

Some things are not just worth it.

andrew444:


Thank you i will try and be easy,forgivness is a troll who doesnt speak the truth,i stand on my words forgiveness is a tribalist

I understand how you feel bro.

Just let go. And let's move on jare.

I understand what you mean Dad. But sometimes, we just gotta "wing it" so long as we can moderate how far we wanna go... It's cool Dad.

Icon4s:


Some things are not just worth it.

TheSuperNerd:

I understand what you mean Dad. But sometimes, we just gotta "wing it" so long as we can moderate how far we wanna go ... It's cool Dad.

Good then.

No wahala.

So Arsenal have finally confirmed Unai Emery as their new coach....


What are Iwobi's chances like in Emery's reign?

Anyway, I believe a great WC for Iwobi will make Emery take early notice of him before he even returns to The emirates to meet his new manager.

Sure Dad. Good to know and always be reminded that you care about me so very much

Awwwwwwwn... #FavoriteSonFeeling **blushes**

Icon4s:


Good then.

No wahala.

Icon4s:


I understand how you feel bro.

Just let go. And let's move on jare.

I will,Thank you

TheSuperNerd:
Sure Dad. Good to know and always be reminded that you care about me so very much

Awwwwwwwn... #FavoriteSonFeeling **blushes**

Stay safe son.

komekn:


I rate a player from the consistency of his club football first, all things being equal.

Kelechi Nwakali a forward player has played near 40 games in the Eredivisie the easiest league to score goals in the top 20 leagues of Europe and scored 3 goals. No sentiment attached he simply not good enough for the SE.

In addition there are far too many better players ahead of him.

What else can I say more? The bolded is spot on but people are trying hard to change the goal post.

Humility017:

Abeg go sleep.....
all you wrote there carries no sense...
thank rohr watched the young man play... and he knows what he wants....

who agreed with you that only the best players playing in big leagues should go to the world cup?

world cup are not for players in big leagues.....but players with the heart of a lion

You have created a new unit of measurement for quality players " heart of a Lion" how do you determine this all encompassing attribute.

Therefore tactical astuteness, technical ability, vision and discipline are not intrinsic to quality. Eventually quality will be recognised with upward progression into top clubs and leagues.

The basis for selection MUST BE consistent top quality performances in your club. The betterment club and league the greater standing given to the player.

Not too long ago I rated the EPL considerably better than the Bundesliga. Which is a one club league Bayern Munich win everything until last Saturday.

Batshuayi and Ademola literally forgotten men and bench warmers have come to Bundesliga and ripped it apart from day one.

Rohr is not tu beginning and end of football analysis and player quality assessment. In addition unless you are close to Rohr what he says in public and what he truly believes you really have no idea. In addition we do not know what external pressures are put on him.

DrKlever:
Yes, he's correct. or can you do us a favour and name one home based player(Chan) in Morocco National team?

Al khaabi

Joebie:
Hahah kai when I help u pick ur list, u dey argue. By now u suppose don send that list to Rohr. Those are the right set of players we need to go far o. If I lie make u modify am. Obafemi is injured so please be serious.

You wan make I show una una list?

Nihilstjnr:


There are certain things that guarantee immortality in the game - Trophies, and individual honours.

You're right that as we grow older, the memories fade. The records however dont.

100 years from now, a kid using the google equivalent of that era could be looking through a list of EPL winners and find Yaya Toure. Or perhaps via a list of past APOTY winners. Maybe UCL past winners.

To find jayjay, the same kid will need to have either arcane knowlegde, or may have to rely on blind luck to stumble accross his clips on that era's equivalent of youtube. Career wise, there are simply no trophies or awards alluding to the great talent he posessed.

This is a man who could have had it all...but didn't due to a nonchalant attitude to tactical football.

I'm not mad at that...just calling it as i see it

Oga...... na wa for you O! How old you be sef? Cos for sure if you started following Okocha from the days of Enugu rangers, you wont be popping all this noise!

Are you for real? Abeg wetin else Okocha suppose do that he has not done? Win champions league? Abi na world cup? Of all the players wen dey naija, how many ever won champions league aside Kanu, Finidi and Mikel? You just come here dey pour sand sand for garri , dey piss for soup wey people dey chop.

I bet if Naija had won the 2002 nations cup, would he have gone down as a legend to you? As i dey type this thing, i dey vex. Like seriously i cant recall being this angry with any moniker in here. Haba! Fear God na.

No be legend no be legend, Eintracht named him, bolton also. More importantly, he is an Afcon winner, Olympic gold medallist. That in itself is no mean feat.... just simply admit that its a personal thing you have against Austin Jayjay Okocha and we will leave you alone as one Ephraim joined to his idols. But if you are claiming to be speaking objectively, then I say your objectivity is a little skew.
Okocha... U no even fear. Na so u and wetin this other guy name take rubbish Yekini. I dey look. But this one, e be like say you waka find trouble for real.

Everyone has opinions and are free to air them. But when opinions start tending towards rubbishing other people's hard earned achievements, then thats when enough becomes enough!

andrew444:


Thank you i will try and be easy,forgivness is a troll who doesnt speak the truth,i stand on my words forgiveness is a tribalist

What's is truth in the context of football.

Your approach is wrong,there is mostly opinion garnished with facts but opinion is what is the overriding component.

In football there will be huge differences in opinion, you should respect other opinions. This childish calling people derogatory names, tribalist and troll is uncalled for on this forum.

TheSuperNerd:
He returned to MVV because Arsenal believed he should be getting more game time beyond the time scraps he was getting at VVV Venlo. It was not for lack of ability. It was for game time. Simple.

You are just refusing to see the obvious truth. And K.Nwakali also had a few MOTM displays for MVV. I recall you said earlier that he didn't have. Look, just play it cool and balanced because when Kayode was also at a point not getting the daily 90mins his talent craved, you defended him saying that possibly the coach don't like or fancy him. Egbon... Please, Be fair and honest to the letter.

Why was he not getting game time if he was good enough?

How good was he that a better team didn't notice his ability for him to have gone to a lower division team where he didn't pull stuffs?

andrew444:


I will,Thank you

Good.

andrew444:


Yes balogun might not have the best season but why are you hyping the EPL?

So because mainz is a relegation team does that mean he will not play well in the EPL?

Is brighton not also a relegation team?

You make it look like EPL is on another level which is not

What do you define hype. In my opinion it is the misrepresentation of facts and the exaggeration of attributes.

The Bundesliga is a literary a one club league where Bayern Munich win everything. True or false.

UEFA rate the EPL the second best in Europe and the Bundesliga fourth, FACT.

How many EPL clubs were in the last 16 of the Champions league and how many Bundesliga clubs

These are the facts stop being emotive and sentimental in the negative against the EPL. The facts are there for all to see.

Joebie:
Kai Kayode was never a flop at Girona na cuz he won 1 MOTM. Wetin be the real criteria sef? Oya forgiveness just agree Kayode was a flop at LaLiga. Then we can now say he same about K.Nwakali.. No “double standards”

Kelechi Nwakali was not a flop so tey he was demoted to a lowly second division because no descent club in a decent league saw his exceptional ability, right?

At least, Kayode made the team of the week and was still noticed by a lowly second division 2 club, ooo Sorry, Shakhtar Donetsk with the likes of Taison and Fred going to the world Cup.


How can a flop player be noticed by such lowly club?

andrew444:


Yes nwakali is not good enough for SE no doubt but he is not a striker he is a central midfielder so how many goals do you want him to score ?

He played 30 games this season with 5 goals and 2 assist,so you want him to score as a striker ?

If this is the way you think stop watching football and stick to hockey...#anothermanwithnoclue#

You can say that again.

forgiveness:


Why was he not getting game time if he was good enough?

How good was he that a better team didn't notice his ability for him to have gone to a lower division team where he didn't pull stuffs?

Lol... Please answer same question for Solanke at Liverpool and for Kayode at Girona (when you claimed he was not being fancied at Girona to get enough 90 mins games).

How could he be noticed when he played so little even in just 9 eredivisie appearances? Lol.. Smh... Funny questions. Please.. I am very busy to engage in endless ping pong when your mind is already fixed on denying a bonafide talent...

Thing is you cannot change what happened yesterday. Rohr saw for himself and was so impressed... So let time tell.

komekn:


What do you define hype. In my opinion it is the misrepresentation of facts and the exaggeration of attributes.

The Bundesliga is a literary a one club league where Bayern Munich win everything. True or false.

UEFA rate the EPL the second best in Europe and the Bundesliga fourth, FACT.

How many EPL clubs were in the last 16 of the Champions league and how many Bundesliga clubs

These are the facts stop being emotive and sentimental in the negative against the EPL. The facts are there for all to see.

lol I taught Epl is the best league in Europe ?

Sit there and talk about how many teams are in the last 16,they are 5 Epl teams in the last 16 so how many succeed ? Thanks to Liverpool

For the past years Epl has been a failure in Europe,you think the richest league means the best club,seems you can brag about 5 Epl teams in the last 16 why are there no all England final ?

Even Everton and co have been a disgrace to the Europa league,Everton could not even make it out of the group stage they failed to record a win against the back waters league team.

Mancity can buy players from small teams like Bilbao

Man united can get player to the first team from small club like Bilbao,even arsenal can buy from Malaga,but a Barcelona or Madrid will never buy from Newcastle Everton and stoke,Chelsea can buy from fiorentina and the player will make first team,but Italian champions juventus cant buy from Everton,this says a lot of the teams.

So who is first seems Epl is second ?