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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:23pm On May 23, 2018 |
My friends.. Usman Muhammad has played only 1 minute this season in Europe. K.Nwakali had a meager run of games. However, these two players were one of the stand out players for SE Team B yesterday, in fact they scored the goals for Naija. Should we have a standard of giving players with potentials but less productivity, over players with better productivity at the club level then? Ezenwa is behind other keepers in the NPFL but he is ahead of his contemporaries in the national team. Is it good for our football in the long run? The point is there has to be a standard. For me I think Nigeria needs a Team B, C, and D also, and it should be based purely on performance. Special talents should be allowed to train with the higher grade teams regardless. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:24pm On May 23, 2018 |
I agree totally. tbaba1234: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:26pm On May 23, 2018 |
somehow: I'm not saying kayode is a bad player neither I'm i saying he won't do well in shakhter. i just replied your question you ask if girona was a bigger club than shakhter |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:27pm On May 23, 2018 |
Henry Onyekuru news There are strong rumors of Henry Onyekuru being on Besiktas' wishlist this transfer window for a loan arrangement of course. Of course, I doubt Onyekuru will consider Turkey. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:29pm On May 23, 2018 |
Martz101: Lol nominated,so na wetin make forgiveness dey rant ? Chai person don suffer for this thread,I just dey imagine say forgiveness is a fan of ndidi he go don sell all of us for this thread,ordinary nominated,smiles |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:29pm On May 23, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: turkey to basiktas is not bad |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:30pm On May 23, 2018 |
Besiktas don't seem like a bad loan move. Of course it depends on the other options he gets. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:35pm On May 23, 2018 |
Joebie: Fine input and I agree with most you say. Just to add, the different grades (B, C and D) can have different scouting and camping sessions to identify true potentials and give them room for exposure with the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:35pm On May 23, 2018 |
Martz101: He should stay away from Turkey... Germany is better for career progression. If you shine in Germany, you are automatically on Bayern's radar. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:36pm On May 23, 2018 |
That is the key word in all you just said. Many here will still ride and die on that one term... "Special talent". Many here will not agree that some are special and many will also want to present players that they think and feel are special. To them, since no cogent/stand out criteria exists to define a special talent so anyone can be special... ![]() Another wahala. lol But I am in support of Classifying our teams into A (The main team), B and C. Forget D... A to C is okay. In my very own personal database of our players scattered around the world which I update from time to time, I classify them. Anyway, one thing we must understand is that for every era or generation we must be sensitive to the atmosphere of that particular era. Truth is we have a standard for invites to the Super Eagles... but it is just that there are exceptions to the rule and these exceptions are made certified by the coach in charge at any point. Not by us... but by the coach. We can only pray and hope that the coach, in making these decisions on who and who can bypass this standard rule, pick the right players with huge potentials for immense benefits to the team and not for his own selfish/personal vendetta to the detriment of the team. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:37pm On May 23, 2018 |
Exactly, and you rise through the grades based on your performance on national assignments. Guy, if you are not pulling weight in Team D, but u just started banging goals in your club, should you be promoted to team A automatically? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 9:40pm On May 23, 2018 |
somehow:that one is another debate oh |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 9:42pm On May 23, 2018 |
Joebie: Bros, dont let anybody deceive you. The percentage of Nigeria women who are wearing their hair natural is not even up to 5% of the whole female population. Most Nigeria girls I hve spoken to about it says the black woman natural hair is ugly,mgbeke-ish, nappy and the white womans weave ons are classy. The only place you see women wearing natural hair proudly is in the north and this applies to only the poor. Every body living on this planet knows the black woman hate her skin color thats why she bleach, hate her eye color thats why they add contact lens, hates her hair thats why she buys a fake piece of hair and glue or stich it into a natural hair. These are all signs of low self esteem...The Koreans that made the hair feels the blacks have inferior hair thats why they cover it up. The whites feel pity for their insatiable nature and obsession about hair and how they walk around with fake hair hanging on their heads.....this sshit is so funny,it took my wife a while to understand how silly she looks with those European-ish on her head. She cut her hair and went natural,now all her friends want to go natural because of how beautiful her hair looks and our daughter's and I have to learn how to make hair because I have a wife and two daughters. I can count up to 4 girls who blocked me on FB because of this matter. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:43pm On May 23, 2018 |
Oga no be hope and pray matter. This thing needs to be standardized and coaches need to make their case for any players they consider to be in that special talent class. I'm only looking at the long term benefit.. I think players would want to work their way up the ranks. It would promote excellence. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:50pm On May 23, 2018 |
I'm afraid you cannot standardize everything for absolutely 100% effectiveness when it comes to talents. Lol... this is why "hoping and praying" is part of it because like the bolded shows arguments can be made from various angles and depending on how strong the coach pushes his case for a player, you just can never tell sometimes. A coach at any given point in time will come with his own attitude, Idiosyncrasies and more. How do you handle it also if a coach hates a player who is actually doing well enough and he makes the case that The player is not ready and lacks this or that... stuffs made up by the coach to keep the player down. How do you handle that? sack the coach? lol... Mehn... Hope and pray is a part of this as much as our efforts to give things a level of standard. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:50pm On May 23, 2018 |
Joebie: I still feel we missed an opportunity to see talents. It would have been a great opportunity for us to see, Alampasu, Maduka Okoye (GK), Tosin Kehinde, Ebere Eze, .....Samuel Kalu & Olayinka are still playing games. Alampasu was in Nigeria, It would have been good to see if he is still decent. Femi Thomas did not inspire confidence. Salisu did not make too many subs because we did not really have many quality substitutes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:50pm On May 23, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Good insight....A very strange situation..it should be the reverse...i think part of the problem is that our NPFL teams do not have well structured academies...and we do not have a youth league so that youth teams can be playing week in week out....Enyimba use to have something similar...they should have continued but lure for quick money in the continent made them to buying up`star players`in the league... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:52pm On May 23, 2018 |
I agree with your last sentence. But don't you agree with me that there were some home-based revelations yesterday? Players that probably won't have gotten their chance even in the next CHAN. Now there is hope for them. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:52pm On May 23, 2018 |
He is, this is not a debate, he's OBVIOUSLY faster than Balogun. CaptainStephen: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:53pm On May 23, 2018 |
World Cup is approaching, the thread is moving fast. The problem now is that :how does one keep on with the thread.? You come online like this you see like 5-10 pages within few hours of absence and yet one will not want to any. I suggest that tit - bits and news pertaining to the WORLD CUP should be bolded and coloured to help people like me. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:53pm On May 23, 2018 |
Musa and Shehu also in camp and playing 2 aside inside. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:54pm On May 23, 2018 |
Martz101: At 19, he scored 10 goals to help his Isreali team win the league to gain promotion to the top tier. The next season he was the third goal scorer in the Isreali first division. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:57pm On May 23, 2018 |
Uhmm... perspective. That game was to involve a better percentage of the home based lads... Salisu only had a couple of slots open for some from outside... and he made his choice. He cannot invite everyone at once. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:58pm On May 23, 2018 |
it's still the coach that has the final say as to who gets promoted from one grade to the other. of course we can't have 100% efficiency but we can start from somewhere to make it better. There are so many Nigerian footballers out there. we must find a way to at least screen through most of them. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:00pm On May 23, 2018 |
well fine, the purpose was to promote the NPFL. You had 5 slots for foreign based players. Who would you have picked? TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:00pm On May 23, 2018 |
Great idea.. Blue is already in use.. lol AIG07: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:02pm On May 23, 2018 |
oya make we leave Kayode matter abeg.. forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:03pm On May 23, 2018 |
And does knowing my choices even sound relevant to the issue here? The coach is Salisu... not me. His choices... his decisions. See? It is about the coach too. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:06pm On May 23, 2018 |
Joebie: The attackers yesterday were more alive than those we took for CHAN. Samadi was the only real revelation for me. I already knew about Omoyele and Udo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:06pm On May 23, 2018 |
ok o TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:07pm On May 23, 2018 |
chrisooblog: Ogbeche stats prior to the world Cup. How did Simy performed better than Ogbeche?
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:10pm On May 23, 2018 |
Now this sounds a lot like what TheGoodJoe has been preaching for years here. Nothing different. I say we must first establish a good scouting network and create a whole new database where we keep details and info and update indexes and all on our players who are all prospects (long term and all), fringe members and main members of the Super Eagles... and not just Super Eagles (but with time we can extend it to lower grades at the cadet level but we must Starr from somewhere first). We need to form a true scouting dept in the Football federation and this will be their job. They can always report back to the NFF technical committee or whatever they are called. From here, we can make some headways... going around and identifying the players we wanna bring closer and take a look at form time to time.... building that network and growing. Joebie: 1 Like 1 Share |
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