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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 4:46pm On May 26, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Caniggia: Argentina Very Strong In Attack, Weak In Defence
May 26, 2018 9:42 am

Argentina great, Claudio Caniggia, has stated that the Albiceleste’s weak point going into the 2018 FIFA World Cup is in their defence line.

The two-time world champions are in Group D with Nigeria, Croatia and debutant Iceland.

Caniggia, 51, who was a member of the Argentine side that got to the final of the 1990 World Cup in Italy, said Jorge Sampaoli parades a fearsome strike force but has a poor rear guard.

“What’s in our favour is that the best attacking players can put fear into anyone,” Caniggia who scored Argentina’s two goals in their 2-1 comeback win against Nigeria in USA 1994, told FIFA.com.

“Their names (Argentina strikers)alone unsettle the opposition. The other teams don’t think: “Higuain is being criticised in Argentina”. They think: “he’s Juventus’ top goalscorer”. Our weak point is that we’re still not solid at the back, and there are still a couple of places up for grabs.”

The former Boca Junior and River Plate forward stated that Lionel Messi lacks the kind of support Diego Maradona got from his teammates during his time as captain of Argentina.

“Messi doesn’t get the same support from his teammates as Maradona did. I think that’s true.”

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/caniggia-argentina-very-strong-in-attack-weak-in-defence/

this is a sincere comment ... they re weak in defence and we should be able to exploit that weakness come june
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:47pm On May 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

You don dey enter another argument with the bolded ooo. Simon is not an integral part of the team? Is this supported by the facts?

It has passed but I doubt strongly if Rohr would have used Iwobi against Cameroon even if he were fit. Why did he fall back on Ighalo who had not even played a single match in the WCQ for the double header? Do you think Iwobi would have fared well in that match?

Let me give you an insight as to why I think even if Iwobi were fit he would not have started. Check out the match between Nig and Zambia in Uyo. Leaving Iwobi on the bench was very deliberate. I repeat very deliberate. It was strategy. Moses was to start. Run the Zambians ragged and tire them out. Iwobi came in when those guys were a softened as per tiredness and his impact was immediate.

If you judge as per the nature of the opponents we'd face at the WC and say Iwobi is likely to be the starter, I no go argue but to say it as a done deal I no gree.

You don't need to be a master tactician to know that iwobi don't need to start that zambia match.

number one rule in coaching, never change a wimning team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:49pm On May 26, 2018
Oasis007:
Iwobi excels well when he plays as a No. 10 or SS. He's a brilliant attacking Midfieder, very good on the Ball, can dictate the tempo of the Team-play and certainly effective at connecting Defence to the Attack.

I would rather start Simon on the Wing and reserve Iwobi on the Bench as a Joker, also as a direct replacement for Mikel. Do we get another creative Player in the Team aside from Mikel presently? So we want to put both our finest Eggs in the same Basket?!

Starting a Match ain't the most Important thing, rather being Effective regardless to the Minutes played. Sokjaer is regarded a Legend at Manchester United not because he's a Starter, rather a super-Sub. We ain't the Coach, and we ain't in his Brain nor part of his Backroom Staff, hence we can't conclude or decide the Lineup authoritatively.

We need the full complement of Mikel and Iwobi at the same time on the pitch. Starting Simon because you want Iwobi to deputise for Mikel from the bench is just a waste of potentials.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:50pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


which last 3 games are you talking about, simon was in our squad for poland and Serbia
Moses was injured in the Argentina tie. Initially it skipped my mind that he was in the squad for the friendlies but he was just coming from a a two months injury and before the friendlies played just one match for his club coming in the 70 min. Don't you think that tilted the odds in iwobi's favour? That's why I say it's arguable. It can be argued Bro unlike Moses case. You can decide which side to stand but it can be argued. On the contrary can it be argued that Vicmo is a starter? No!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:51pm On May 26, 2018
Icon4s:


We need the full complement of Mikel and Iwobi at the same time on the pitch. Starting Simon because you want Iwobi to deputise for Mikel from the bench is just a waste of potentials.
how really effective is iwobi from the wings though?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:53pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


so iwobi can not start as a winger and end up in the middle of mikel final leave and who said mikel most not finish a match

I always shake my head when I see comments like "Iwobi should come in for Mikel in the second half" as if they have predetermined how the game will go.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:54pm On May 26, 2018
asha80:
how really effective is iwobi from the wings though?

Even in his ineffectiveness he is more effective than Simon and Musa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:55pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


You don't need to be a master tactician to know that iwobi don't need to start that zambia match.

number one rule in coaching, never change a wimning team.
bros if na that rule forget am. this is not the era for rules. this is an era of strategy and dynamism. you are making my point. you can predict but you cannot say as a matter of fact that he will start. its a fine point and the fact that i am arguing it shows that you cannot say it clear cut, it is a fact that iwobi is a starter. you see me argue Vicmo? you know why? the facts are so clear one cannot debate it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:55pm On May 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

Moses was injured in the Argentina tie. Initially it skipped my mind that he was in the squad for the friendlies but he was just coming from a a two months injury and before the friendlies played just one match for his club coming in the 70 min. Don't you think that tilted the odds in iwobi's favour? That's why I say it's arguable. It can be argued Bro unlike Moses case. You can decide which side to stand but it can be argued. On the contrary can it be argued that Vicmo is a starter? No!

So was Simon injured against Algeria, Poland and Serbia?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:56pm On May 26, 2018
Chidozie Awaziem limped off training today. Hopefully not a serious knock.

He had an ice pack on his leg.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:58pm On May 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

bros if na that rule forget am. this is not the era for rules. this is an era of strategy and dynamism. you are making my point. you can predict but you cannot say as a matter of fact that he will start. its a fine point and the fact that i am arguing it shows that you cannot say it clear cut, it is a fact that iwobi is a starter. you see me argue Vicmo? you know why? the facts are so clear one cannot debate it.

"You don't change a winning team". That was the rule Rohr adopted against Zambia in Uyo. Which I also backed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 5:01pm On May 26, 2018
tbaba1234:
Chidozie Awaziem limped off training today. Hopefully not a serious knock.

He had a ice pack on his leg.
oh men
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:02pm On May 26, 2018
asha80:
how really effective is iwobi from the wings though?
watch his latest interview which i posted where the young man said that he prefers playing behind the striker or as a ten or false nine. playing him from the wings is as a result of poverty of imagination. i swear. in the real sense he is not even a winger. for him to play in the middle they say he lacks vision but vision was precisely what the others interviewed(his uncle and two others- jay jay's former team mate at bolton and the other was assistant to alladyce at bolton) in that video said was one of his good qualities. its just that Mikel is there. against argentina he operated from the wings but he was used as false nine in that match. all his goals for us has come from the middle. how about that for effectiveness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:03pm On May 26, 2018
Icon4s:


So was Simon injured against Algeria, Poland and Serbia?
i have acknowledged that he was in the squad against poland and serbia as well as algeria. algeria nothing to fight for again. poland and serbia he had not regained full match fitness. he was out for two months and played one match for his club as a 70 min sub before the friendlies.and there was nothing for rohr to discover by forcing the situation as in playing him cos he already knew what moses could do so naturally in that circumstances iwobi started.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:04pm On May 26, 2018
Iheanacho scored 2 goals in training today.

Ighalo scored 1 for the opposing team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:05pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


not a player will be giving such preference even with his stats, even when the big money Chinese club started spending big, his agent got him Teda deal after not doing so good in wesbrom.

players like emenike and co wan chop china money too na
Mikel got him the deal and he even confirmed it after good performance in Greece league not westbrom.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 5:06pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


so iwobi can not start as a winger and end up in the middle of mikel final leave and who said mikel most not finish a match

Check Iwobi Records as a Winger, then compare it to his Records as an AM, No. 10 precisely, hopefully you gonna understand my Point of view better Sir.

Icon4s:


We need the full complement of Mikel and Iwobi at the same time on the pitch. Starting Simon because you want Iwobi to deputise for Mikel from the bench is just a waste of potentials.

World Cup ain't a physical Battle like Africa WCQ Matches, it's more of a tactical Battle Sir. While Africa WCQ Matches are like a Game of Ludo - running to strikeout Opponent(s) or into a comfort Zone, World Cup Proper is like a Chess Game - you gonna have to be calculating with your Movements - Tactics.

What killed us at 2014 WC Sir, first we lost a very fit, dazzling AM in Babtunde, secondly our Engine Room collapsed the moment Onazi was injured - that's the Case of putting our finest Eggs in the same Basket.

I repeat again, do we have any creative Midfieder in the Team aside from Mikel and Iwobi?! Secondly you wanna keep playing Mikel for 90mins+ in all the Matches? At what Age Sir...... or you think Mikel is getting younger not vice versa?!

God forbids, if we lose Mikel to Fatigue and Iwobi to Injury in a Match, what's gonna happen?! Guess you ain't thinking of makeshift Subs cos its Creativity we are talking about here Sir.

Etebo is simply workaholic not creative, Joel is superb as a deep-lying Playmaker not as a creative Midfielder. Then tell me who else we gonna play in the Hole? Mind you Iheanacho is more a supporting Striker - a Forward precisely not at all an AM.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:06pm On May 26, 2018
tbaba1234:
Iheanacho scored 2 goals in training today.

Ighalo scored 1 for the opposing team.
Pls full update

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:07pm On May 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

watch his latest interview which i posted where the young man said that he prefers playing behind the striker or as a ten or false nine. playing him from the wings is as a result of poverty of imagination. i swear. in the real sense he is not even a winger. for him to play in the middle they say he lacks vision but vision was precisely what the others interviewed(his uncle and two others- jay jay's former team mate at bolton and the other was assistant to alladyce at bolton) in that video said was one of his good qualities. its just that Mikel is there. against argentina he operated from the wings but he was used as false nine in that match. all his goals for us has come from the middle. how about that for effectiveness.

Every player has a preferred role but the coach determines where to play a player. National teams that are not much blessed with quality options typically assign roles to players in positions the team is lacking.

You cannot keep Iwobi on the bench in the Super Eagles because his favorite role is behind a striker cos we know Mikel is first choice there already.

Iwobi also plays as a winger at Arsenal so playing him as a Winger in the Super Eagles is not any where near out of place.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 5:08pm On May 26, 2018
tbaba1234:
Iheanacho scored 2 goals in training today.

Ighalo scored 1 for the opposing team.

ones he scores he will keep on scoring ... he get the way the guy dey operate grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:08pm On May 26, 2018
Ekong participated fully in training today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 5:08pm On May 26, 2018
tbaba1234:
Chidozie Awaziem limped off training today. Hopefully not a serious knock.

He had an ice pack on his leg.


What is going on in the camp? Our players just dey wound themselves. I am not understanding
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:10pm On May 26, 2018
lexyman:


this is a sincere comment ... they re weak in defence and we should be able to exploit that weakness come june
exactly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 5:10pm On May 26, 2018
mazimee:



What is going on in the camp? Our players just dey wound themselves. I am not understanding


it may be that they are over working themselves to be part of the 23 man squad ... i will advice that they take it easy grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:10pm On May 26, 2018
Oasis007:


Check Iwobi Records as a Winger, then compare it to his Records as an AM, No. 10 precisely, hopefully you gonna understand my Point of view better Sir.



World Cup ain't a physical Battle like Africa WCQ Matches, it's more of a tactical Battle Sir. While Africa WCQ Matches are like a Game of Ludo - running to strikeout Opponent(s) or into a comfort Zone, World Cup Proper is like a Chess Game - you gonna have to be calculating with your Movements - Tactics.

What killed us at 2014 WC Sir, first we lost a very fit, dazzling AM in Babtunde, secondly our Engine Room collapsed the moment Onazi was injured - that's the Case of putting our finest Eggs in the same Basket.

I repeat again, do we have any creative Midfieder in the Team aside from Mikel and Iwobi?! Secondly you wanna keep playing Mikel for 90mins+ in all the Matches? At what Age Sir...... or you think Mikel is getting younger not vice versa?!

God forbids, if we lose Mikel to Fatigue and Iwobi to Injury in a Match, what's gonna happen?! Guess you ain't thinking of makeshift Subs cos its Creativity we are talking about here Sir.

Etebo is simply workaholic not creative, Joel is superb as a deep-lying Playmaker not as a creative Midfielder. Then tell me who else we gonna play in the Hole? Mind you Iheanacho is more a supporting Striker - a Forward precisely not at all an AM.


We know all those.

The question is who is Rohr's first choice as a winger between Iwobi and Simon?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:10pm On May 26, 2018
mazimee:



What is going on in the camp? Our players just dey wound themselves. I am not understanding

It is normal in training, most times, there are minor knocks and niggles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 5:11pm On May 26, 2018
i believe a 3man midfield of Ndidi mikel and iwobi will be deadly. as long as Ndidi does all the dirty work perfectly.

our own busquests xavi iniesta...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:11pm On May 26, 2018
Martz101:


we need to play very direct against Argentina, no need for much game play in the midfield. just like last year we can out run them at the back and get goals
spot on. I think that's the key

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 5:12pm On May 26, 2018
tbaba1234:


It is normal in training, most times, there are minor knocks and niggles.
i am surprised I have not heard any news on ebuehi and injury
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:12pm On May 26, 2018
Mujtahida:

watch his latest interview which i posted where the young man said that he prefers playing behind the striker or as a ten or false nine. playing him from the wings is as a result of poverty of imagination. i swear. in the real sense he is not even a winger. for him to play in the middle they say he lacks vision but vision was precisely what the others interviewed(his uncle and two others- jay jay's former team mate at bolton and the other was assistant to alladyce at bolton) in that video said was one of his good qualities. its just that Mikel is there. against argentina he operated from the wings but he was used as false nine in that match. all his goals for us has come from the middle. how about that for effectiveness.
GBAM Mikel is there,EOD.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:12pm On May 26, 2018
Icon4s:


I fear for Ebuehi. He may fail a late fitness test. Aina may eventually take his place.
Is he still injured? why is it taking so long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:13pm On May 26, 2018
andrew444:


Mind games by the coach we all know,but no looking down of any team.
Exactly

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