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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by usbcable(m): 8:15am On May 28, 2018
I have tried giving a business point of view to whether CR should be let go or given a pay rise.

But I would like to address some comments I don't feel pleased about.

A wise man once said the greatest asset of any nation is its citizens.
Hence the greatest asset any company (football club) has is its players.

The history of any nation is incomplete Without the ciizens. Likewise the history of Real Madrid is not complete without mentioning its players.

Simply because it is the players that make up the history of the club.
We won't have La Decimal nor La Undecima nor La DuoDecima nor the 3peat without talking of the heroics of these Stars.

They create the history for us. They create wonderful memories just as some replacements of the 1998-2002 squad gave us the records of being knocked of of R16 for 6 straight seasons.

Its not proper to denigrate them.

Ronaldo is irreplaceable in the history of Real Madrid just like our other greats.

If he leaves or is forced out my opinion is that we will bear the consequences.

So far Zidane has been working on the team surviving without CR. This I believe is work in progress. If not we won't have scaled the semifinals and won the finals.
Hence his presence is needed as a leader and to also nurture the budding talents on how to with stand pressure.

Or can you comfortably say any of our players can withstand same level of scrutiny and pressure CR is subjected to both on and off the pitch?

True that Real Madrid also provided the platform for him to shine but providing the platform is one leg. Making use of it for good of both parties is another. Hence a symbiotic relationship is best for all of us.

A true leader always strives for a WIN-WIN situation.

That is what I expect from us towards our legends.

Hala Madrid

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:19am On May 28, 2018
MoR2:
by the time Perez buys Kane or lewandoski all this noise will stop. I doubt this will happen with Ronaldo playing 9 for us (and still better than Kane and lewandoski) we should focus on giving him a new contract to appease him while he is still here.

for one, ronaldo is a source of motivation to the team and a great X factor in games (a mentor to Asensio)

I still suggest we buy Icardi (or dybala or Kane) to play along side Ronaldo, and use Benzema as backup, UCL, cup games. atleast those other players can step up the amount of our goals in a season (wins)
Kane, icardi and dybala. I'm 60% sure non of them will be in Madrid.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 8:22am On May 28, 2018
hopefulLandlord


You are far more than rude to the G. O. A. T.

And you think you're taking the club side which you're not, you just sounded like a bitter person who don't care to look at things from both side.

Cr7 was promised a pay rise if a particular achievement was met, but the club failed to do that after it was met.

We're Madridstas and we also recognize insincerity if we see one.

CR7 case is not the first, the same thing was done to Casillas.

The method is really wrong.

And that is the case here.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by MoR2(m): 8:24am On May 28, 2018
Miremoses1:
Kane, icardi and dybala. I'm 60% sure non of them will be in Madrid.
are you trying to tell us Perez won't sign a galatico (especially in attack) this summer shocked
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:26am On May 28, 2018
usbcable:
I have tried giving a business point of view to whether CR should be let go or given a pay rise.

But I would like to address some comments I don't feel pleased about.

A wise man once said the greatest asset of any nation is its citizens.
Hence the greatest asset any company (football club) has is its players.

The history of any nation is incomplete Without the ciizens. Likewise the history of Real Madrid is not complete without mentioning its players.

Simply because it is the players that make up the history of the club.
We won't have La Decimal nor La Undecima nor La DuoDecima nor the 3peat without talking of the heroics of these Stars.

They create the history for us. They create wonderful memories just as some replacements of the 1998-2002 squad gave us the records of being knocked of of R16 for 6 straight seasons.

Its not proper to denigrate them.

Ronaldo is irreplaceable in the history of Real Madrid just like our other greats.

If he leaves or is forced out my opinion is that we will bear the consequences.

So far Zidane has been working on the team surviving without CR. This I believe is work in progress. If not we won't have scaled the semifinals and won the finals.
Hence his presence is needed as a leader and to also nurture the budding talents on how to with stand pressure.

Or can you comfortably say any of our players can withstand same level of scrutiny and pressure CR is subjected to both on and off the pitch?

True that Real Madrid also provided the platform for him to shine but providing the platform is one leg. Making use of it for good of both parties is another. Hence a symbiotic relationship is best for all of us.

A true leader always strives for a WIN-WIN situation.

That is what I expect from us towards our legends.

Hala Madrid
you have spoken well.

In summary, Perez should give CR7 a pay rise.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:28am On May 28, 2018
MoR2:
are you trying to tell us Perez won't sign a galatico (especially in attack) this summer shocked
that's my opinion. Perez main focus is to bring neymar(a player he adores so much) to Madrid.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Yonce(f): 8:28am On May 28, 2018
MoR2:
am telling you, Perez should give him a pay raise not so as to keep Ronaldo, because even the chickens in Spain know he isn't leaving Madrid but Perez should give him that pay raise for the good of the team or just be silly and sell him

imagine scoring 44 goals this season after scoring 42 the season he won ballon d'or and this should be his worst season so far cheesy

Exactly!!!

If you're not gonna give him what you promised him then sell him let him take his services elsewhere and still shine. . . Don't treat him the way y'all treated Iker.

@Bold, and he's being compared to Salah, Kane et al.
People forget how much of a beast he was at their age now a few bad games and even Madrid fans start the he's declining talk.
Where was the talk when he was putting big teams like PSG, Juve in their places? undecided
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 8:30am On May 28, 2018
Yonce:



It's fans like you that whistle players.

But I really can't believe people here are totally writing Ronaldo off. grin grin

You guys like twisting someone's comments.

What brought whistling here now.
CR7 will not be playing for Madrid forever. How does that correlate to whistling?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by MoR2(m): 8:33am On May 28, 2018
Miremoses1:
that's my opinion. Perez main focus is to bring neymar(a player he adores so much) to Madrid.
Neymar won't join Madrid atleast not this summer (I doubt ever) 1. Ronaldo must leave by then
2. they must pay him astronomically
3. he knows the amount of money he will make at psg he will never make it at Madrid and psg may in time build a very strong team and he becomes the legend that gives them UCL but at Madrid he may never become a legend.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by MoR2(m): 8:35am On May 28, 2018
the only way we sign Neymar is by sending ronaldo the other way (which won't happen) cheesy
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 8:42am On May 28, 2018
LosVikingos:
hopefulLandlord


You are far more than rude to the G. O. A. T.

And you think you're taking the club side which you're not, you just sounded like a bitter person who don't care to look at things from both side.

Cr7 was promised a pay rise if a particular achievement was met, but the club failed to do that after it was met.

We're Madridstas and we also recognize insincerity if we see one.

CR7 case is not the first, the same thing was done to Casillas.

The method is really wrong.

And that is the case here.
when I remember what the board and mourinho did to casillas. I feel really bitter. So painful.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 8:44am On May 28, 2018
haymekus

Eavesdropper wetin happen na cheesy

Your thread reach here?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 8:55am On May 28, 2018
Miremoses1:
when I remember what the board and mourinho did to casillas. I feel really bitter. So painful.

So bad, Legends are not to be treated mercilessly like they are nothing
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Yonce(f): 8:58am On May 28, 2018
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Poor Carvajal.
No one seems to care embarassed

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 9:03am On May 28, 2018
LosVikingos:


So bad, Legends are not to be treated mercilessly like they are nothing

Seriously, there's a way they'd have worded it differently and it wouldn't have sounded so insulting.

Anyway, let's live and let live. There'd always be the crowd that sees things differently. Nothing we can do.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 9:05am On May 28, 2018
Yonce:
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Poor Carvajal.
No one seems to care embarassed

Sucks for Carva. Especially since Zidane tried to give him ample time to recover. He's at the perfect age for the World Cup. It'd hurt badly.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 9:07am On May 28, 2018
LordAdamX:


Seriously, there's a way they'd have worded it differently and it wouldn't have sounded so insulting.

Anyway, let's live and let live. There'd always be the crowd that sees things differently. Nothing we can do.

-Lord


Yea.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 9:11am On May 28, 2018
Yonce:



You cannot force who the spotlight should be on.
You can't tell people what to focus on.
And you certainly can order the media to analyse Bale's goal like they did Ronaldo.


Bale is not Ronaldo. Ronaldo has paid his dues and along with Messi is the face of mordern football.
They have singlehandedly defined 21st century football.

Anyone who wishes to steal the spotlight completely from them has to dwarf their achievements and become a record breaker that way.

Bale was amazing. Pundits even called his bicycle kick the greatest goal in a final even better than Zidane's
He is an amazing player but he is not quite there yet. undecided


Has Bale not paid his dues in the colour of Real Madrid too.
Bale won us the Copa Del Rey in his first season.
Bale made it 2 1 in the 2O14 UCL Final. The most important goal.
Bale's only goal took us to the final of the 2016 UCL Final.
Bale's goals won us the 2018 UCL Final. Even if it is just for a day, Bale deserved the spotlight for his performance.


Yes CR7 is the star but it mustn't always be him. Sometimes players like Ramos, Big Benz, Varane, Modric, Kross, Carvajal and Marcelo deserve some glorious spotlights
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 9:14am On May 28, 2018
LosVikingos:
hopefulLandlord


You are far more than rude to the G. O. A. T.

And you think you're taking the club side which you're not, you just sounded like a bitter person who don't care to look at things from both side.

Cr7 was promised a pay rise if a particular achievement was met, but the club failed to do that after it was met.

We're Madridstas and we also recognize insincerity if we see one.

CR7 case is not the first, the same thing was done to Casillas.

The method is really wrong.

And that is the case here.

TBH while I'm against his getting pay raise, I'm even more against the length of contract he's gonna sign which will most likely be 5 year contract

Giving 5 year contract to a player who's 34 and now relies hugely on goals and assists in order not to have a bad game due to his decline in overall gameplay and pace isn't the best for the club, he's getting worse and worse on an individual level and we shouldn't let the numbers fool us too much. If my guess is correct it means his contract would last till he's 39 years old and call me pessimistic but Ronaldo can't possibly do better than he did this season on individual level and he'll decline in overall gameplay even more in upcoming seasons. If we give him Messi contract it means he'll be earning Messi wages while declining more and more. paying him those wages would also set off a chain of reaction in which other players start asking for significant increase in wages too and if we give in to them it means at some point We'd have a bench of old legends who are earning triple the wages of the starting eleven that are doing the work.

It appears I'm ranting and at this point I've given up trying to make sense in this but we need to look towards the future and I don't see CR7 there. he's not going to be Madrid quality in 2 years time or even earlier


It seems I'm outnumbered in this but perhaps there can be a compromise which is perhaps increasing his wages while not increasing the length of his contract so he signs a new deal but it still ends in 2021 and not the 2023 I think he wants
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 9:21am On May 28, 2018
Miremoses1:
when I remember what the board and mourinho did to casillas. I feel really bitter. So painful.
I thought the board stood by Casillas and probably fired José for his sake. He left simply cuz he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot anymore and still felt he has a lot left in the tank. His exit was rushed because it wasn't well known ahead of time and we were paying majority of his wages at Porto till this season started Or is there something I don't know?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Neimar: 9:51am On May 28, 2018
monerozi5590:



Has Bale not paid his dues in the colour of Real Madrid too.
Bale won us the Copa Del Rey in his first season.
Bale made it 2 1 in the 2O14 UCL Final. The most important goal.
Bale's only goal took us to the final of the 2016 UCL Final.
Bale's goals won us the 2018 UCL Final. Even if it is just for a day, Bale deserved the spotlight for his performance.


Yes CR7 is the star but it mustn't always be him. Sometimes players like Ramos, Big Benz, Varane, Modric, Kross, Carvajal and Marcelo deserve some glorious spotlights




yes ooooo grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 9:52am On May 28, 2018
LosVikingos:
haymekus

Eavesdropper wetin happen na cheesy

Your thread reach here?

I was going out, I forgot I was on this trend
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 9:57am On May 28, 2018
haymekus:


I was going out, I forgot I was on this trend

Just go grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 10:04am On May 28, 2018
hopefulLandlord:

I thought the board stood by Casillas and probably fired José for his sake. He left simply cuz he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot anymore and still felt he has a lot left in the tank. His exit was rushed because it wasn't well known ahead of time and we were paying majority of his wages at Porto till this season started Or is there something I don't know?
it's the other way round. Mourinho wasn't in a good relationship with casillas. The board had to let him go so mou will be happy.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Yonce(f): 10:08am On May 28, 2018
monerozi5590:



Has Bale not paid his dues in the colour of Real Madrid too.
Bale won us the Copa Del Rey in his first season.
Bale made it 2 1 in the 2O14 UCL Final. The most important goal.
Bale's only goal took us to the final of the 2016 UCL Final.
Bale's goals won us the 2018 UCL Final. Even if it is just for a day, Bale deserved the spotlight for his performance.


Yes CR7 is the star but it mustn't always be him. Sometimes players like Ramos, Big Benz, Varane, Modric, Kross, Carvajal and Marcelo deserve some glorious spotlights





And who's stopping you from shinning the spotlight on him?

You want me to list all Ronaldo has done for Real like you did for Bale. . . Bro we won't exhaust Ronaldo's achievement if I do that.

Ronaldo is a club legend hinting at leaving, of course the world will care about that even more than Bale's own hint at leaving. . . You cannot force the media to select what they chose to print or who they pay more attention to.
Carvajal was also injured like Salah, how many times did that make Front page like Salah's injury.

Ronaldo is our Mega Super Star. Face of 21st century football. Bale is a star. . . He's done a lot for us but if Ronaldo is talking about leaving Madrid, the whole world will listen.

That's life. Deal with it. undecided

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by confistified(m): 11:21am On May 28, 2018
It surprises me that some guys here are saying Ronaldo doesn't deserve an improved contact.... Abi na Barcelona fans group I dey?....
Apart from the fact that he was already promised this check the statistics a 33yr old man still scoring 44goals in 45games ..... When Rooney's contact was increased at Manchester United am very sure his stats was below par ........ Do u know that Real Madrid needs Ronaldo more than Ronaldo needs Madrid? ...... Check the statistics French league has been upgraded to 2 points for European golden shoe.... It means if he goes there he would be carrying it back to back and would be winning all throphies in France and a likely possibility of winning the UCL with PSG...... It's very simple if Madrid doesn't want to improve his contract they should just cash in on him now... Am very sure Manchester United and PSG would pay him what he deserves..... Imagine Messi earning almost times 2 of Ronaldos wage that's an insult..... E just be like make iPhone 8 be #1,000,000 and Samsung Galaxy S8 be #500,000

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by sleamzy06(m): 11:24am On May 28, 2018
they were disappointed grin

fahrenhite

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:39am On May 28, 2018
sleamzy06:
they were disappointed grin

fahrenhite
grin look at how the guy dey modify up and down
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 11:42am On May 28, 2018
LosVikingos:


Just go grin

Nah wah for u ooo grin grin grin grin

Make persin no read una news again??
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:45am On May 28, 2018
confistified:
It surprises me that some guys here are saying Ronaldo doesn't deserve an improved contact.... Abi na Barcelona fans group I dey?....
Apart from the fact that he was already promised this check the statistics a 33yr old man still scoring 44goals in 45games ..... When Rooney's contact was increased at Manchester United am very sure his stats was below par ........ Do u know that Real Madrid needs Ronaldo more than Ronaldo needs Madrid? ...... Check the statistics French league has been upgraded to 2 points for European golden shoe.... It means if he goes there he would be carrying it back to back and would be winning all throphies in France and a likely possibility of winning the UCL with PSG...... It's very simple if Madrid doesn't want to improve his contract they should just cash in on him now... Am very sure Manchester United and PSG would pay him what he deserves..... Imagine Messi earning almost times 2 of Ronaldos wage that's an insult..... E just be like make iPhone 8 be #1,000,000 and Samsung Galaxy S8 be #500,000
with the kind of love psg's owner and chairman have for Ronaldo. I won't be suprised if he signs him with a £60m contract per year.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Yonce(f): 11:49am On May 28, 2018
sleamzy06:
they were disappointed grin

fahrenhite


Holy mother of shares!!!

That's almost a 1 to 7 ratio. . . 1 in 7 nairalanders rooted for Madrid grin

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 11:49am On May 28, 2018
Miremoses1:
with the kind of love psg's owner and chairman have for Ronaldo. I won't be suprised if he signs him with a £60m contract per year.

Whole Bernabeu and Players scream:

Cristiano QUEDARSE!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ir3KAMFSaI&t=1795s

-Lord

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